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Re: "semi-open source package maintainer perversion"

From "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: "semi-open source package maintainer perversion"
Date 2019-03-03 10:07 +0100
Message-ID <ge1jpmF4hdpU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 3/3/19 4:43 AM, Pedro Valdez wrote:

> "There is a strong initial tendency of CentOS and RHEL users is to rely
> on RPMs for initial installation of new packages. For small or widely
> used packages this approach usually works OK. For complex and rarely
> used packaged you are often to nasty surprises. Typically you face
> "libraries hell" problem. Also some packagers are pretty perverted and
> add to the package additional dependencies or configure is is a
> completely bizarre way.

This ain't something RPM specific, nor distribution specific, nor Linux 
specific.


> First you need to download the correct version of RPMs for installation
> of RHEL/CentOs 6.x. The one that works. The version that yum picks up
> from EPEL repository does not work.

Seems to be someone who don't know how to block RPMs, all you need is to 
install yum-plugin-versionlock


> Sh*t happens, especially with complex open source packages
>, which do not have adequate manpower for development, testing
> or packaging

He also missed that there is a SRPM which has the spec file, just 
disable NUMA and build the packages, install the new RPMs.


> Sounds like he was really pissed off.

I would have gone with a pissed off ms-noob.


> Seems to be par for the course when such things are privatised, then a
> public-domain version is forked off the old code.

You don't need source code to be closed down, it's enough that the 
maintainers adds stupid dependency like adding dependency to a specific 
init system for a desktop environment and suddenly the desktop 
environment is Linux only instead for all Unix running X11.

The ms-noob should maybe have looked at a meta-distribution, as then he 
could have had a lot more control on the packages that would be 
installed, what features are enabled and which not.

-- 

  //Aho

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"semi-open source package maintainer perversion" Pedro Valdez <pedro1492@lycos.com> - 2019-03-02 19:43 -0800
  Re: "semi-open source package maintainer perversion" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-03-03 04:43 +0000
  Re: "semi-open source package maintainer perversion" "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-03-03 10:07 +0100
  Re: "semi-open source package maintainer perversion" William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-03-03 17:45 +0000

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