Re: dictation without internet?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.ipad, comp.mobile.android, alt.os.linux
Subject	Re: dictation without internet?
Date	2016-09-13 21:02 +0000
Message-ID	<e3r7quFipkdU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> crankypuss wrote:
> 
>> On 09/13/2016 02:02 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> crankypuss wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is there any application, free or paid, running under Android or iOS or
>>>> linux, that performs dictation (voice-to-text) without requiring an
>>>> internet connection?  TIA.
>>> 
>>> Nuance's own web site (http://tinyurl.com/z6v6kag) shows $0
>>> for their Anywhere app.  When I click on their Buy Now button, yep, it
>>> is subscriptionware.  $15/mo, $40/qtr, or $150/yr.  However, you never
>>> mentioned "free" as a requirement.  The weekly subscription is shown as
>>> $0 but that's probably for the duration of a trial period.  You could
>>> test it to see if it meets your needs.
>> 
>> I already pay a goodly sum for shitty internet access, I'm not going to 
>> add another anchor to that boat: monthly fees absolutely will not fly 
>> with me.
> 
> Software vendors couldn't give a gnat's fart about how much you pay for
> Internet access.  They aren't ISPs.  They write code.  Your incidental
> costs are irrelevant, especially since you inquired about a product that
> doesn't need Internet access.  For a local app that does local audio
> crunching to convert to local text, Internet access is completely a
> non-issue.
> 
> The gas station attendent doesn't care how much you pay for car
> insurance, either.  Not relevant to their sale (of fuel).  Not relevant
> to their product (fuel).
> 
>>> You also didn't mention your Android version, and Nuance Anywhare
>>> says it requires Android 4.4 or later (and iOS 8.1 or later).  I
>>> suspect this is a large-sized app so you'll need to consider how
>>> much free memory you have.  They don't give memory requirements on
>>> their web site for that app.
>> 
>> Who cares what version of Android it runs under?  
> 
> Ah c'mon, even noobs understand that software has minimal requirements
> for support of it within the OS, and that things change with each
> version of an OS (else every new version wouldn't be a new version since
> it was the same as the prior version).  There is some feature of Android
> 4.4 that Nuance's software requires.  Same goes for ALL SOFTWARE.  You
> might find some apps that require Android 2.2 but then, again, they
> aren't going to run under every version of the OS because they obviously
> make use of some feature available at a minimal version of the OS.  So
> you DO care about the OS version because you DO care about using
> software on THAT operating system.
> 
> In fact, some apps will list a range of versions of Android under which
> they will run.  Google may decide to remove features from an OS that an
> app relied up, so the app cannot run under a later version of Android.
> For example, there are anti-spam apps that claim to not only block spam
> calls but also spam texts.  However, I think it was Android 4.3 (maybe a
> late sub-minor version of 4.2) that removed the ability of these apps
> from looking at your texts or blocking them.  So the anti-spam app has
> lost a feature because Google took it away.  Obviously the OS version is
> important to you regardless of what software solution you might choose.
> 
> Memory constraints is another criteria that you haven't bothered to take
> into account.  Oh, you don't care about that either, uh huh, because you
> apparently are the only user of hardware that has infinite memory
> capacity.
> 
> You need to establish your criteria regarding price (now and possibly
> later and perhaps repeatedly) along with hardware limitations (again
> typically constrained by budget).
> 
>> When there's nothing on the market fit to buy, I tend to get a little 
>> pissy about the whole modern circus, my bad, sorry.
> 
> You just contradicted yourself.  Now you're saying you would buy
> something if it was "fit".  Before you said you wouldn't *buy* anything.
> Make up your mind.  Do you have a requirement that the app be free?  If
> so, expect crappy quality or lots of in-app ads (or even rude popup ads
> that appear outside the app when you don't think it is even running).
> Will you pay for a solution?  If so, you have to establish criteria as
> to what you can afford and how often.  You don't get a $150/yr program
> for free unless you steal it - and this is not a pro-warez newsgroup.
> 
> First decide on your criteria: budget (now and later), hardware
> constraints, and OS constraints.  You seem to want a blanket solution
> that provides for free an expensive commercialware app without any
> hardware limitations and will run under every version of Android that
> has ever existed since 2003 and will ever exist hereafter. <rolls eyes>

*slow clapping*  : )

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dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 15:48 -0600
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      Re: TTS on GPS (was: dictation without internet?) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:20 -0700
    Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:36 -0600
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        Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:34 -0600
  Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-12 01:06 -0500
    Re: dictation without internet? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-09-12 07:54 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 14:19 +0200
        Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 17:01 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 20:23 +0200
            Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 19:35 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 02:42 -0500
    Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:50 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 20:30 +0200
  Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 03:02 -0500
    Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:43 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 15:00 -0500
        Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 21:02 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:27 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:26 -0600
    Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-14 09:04 +0200
      Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-14 03:00 -0500
        Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 16:22 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-15 02:34 +0200
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:21 -0600
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              Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:37 -0600
              Re: dictation without internet? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:17 +0000
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              Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:46 -0600
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        Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-15 08:40 +0200
          Re: dictation without internet? Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2016-09-15 15:38 -0400
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        Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:45 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:17 +0000
            Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:55 -0500
            Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-17 16:33 -0500
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      Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:43 -0500
  Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-14 09:08 +0200
    Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-14 03:21 -0500
      Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 16:22 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-15 17:09 -0500
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            Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 01:16 +0000
              Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:59 -0500
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            Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:40 -0600
          Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 01:14 +0000
    Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-19 02:46 +0200
  Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-15 01:08 +0000
    Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:31 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-15 16:45 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:29 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:21 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-16 16:44 +0000
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