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Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

Started byDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
First post2016-01-13 04:43 -0500
Last post2016-01-14 00:51 +0000
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  Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 04:43 -0500
    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 13:14 +0100
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:31 -0500
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:48 +0100
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 09:38 -0500
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-14 02:31 +0100
              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 21:24 -0500
              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 21:28 -0500
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-17 03:23 +0000
              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 06:42 +0000
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2016-01-14 17:58 -0800
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-15 09:01 -0500
      Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:39 -0500
        Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:50 +0100
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 07:39 -0500
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-13 14:52 +0100
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-13 18:50 +0100
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-13 15:47 -0500
      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-13 14:53 -0600
        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-15 07:14 -0500
          Re: [OT entirely] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-01-15 16:23 +0200
            Re: [OT entirely] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-15 14:42 -0500
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-15 11:36 -0500
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-15 14:29 -0600
              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-15 16:27 -0500
                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-16 00:45 -0600
                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-16 10:33 -0500
                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-16 11:07 -0500
                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-17 03:59 -0600
                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-17 10:36 -0500
                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-17 10:40 -0500
                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:04 -0600
                            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 16:15 +0000
                              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-17 16:45 +0000
                                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 13:15 -0500
                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-17 18:32 +0000
                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-17 19:46 +0000
                                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-17 21:00 +0000
                                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-21 03:47 +0000
                                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-21 05:56 -0500
                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-23 03:23 +0000
                                            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-23 03:03 -0500
                                              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-23 08:54 +0000
                                              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-24 04:31 +0000
                                                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 09:50 +0000
                                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-24 02:46 -0800
                                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-24 10:05 -0500
                                                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 10:41 -0500
                                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-25 04:10 +0000
                                                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:47 -0500
                                                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:09 +0000
                                                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-27 01:05 -0500
                                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-30 02:49 +0000
                                                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mr.E <Mr.E@totally.invalid> - 2016-01-24 07:16 -0500
                                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 15:51 +0100
                                                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 11:13 -0500
                                                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 19:20 +0100
                                                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 13:29 -0500
                                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-24 21:49 +0100
                                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-24 18:12 -0500
                                                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mr.E <Mr.E@totally.invalid> - 2016-01-24 13:50 -0500
                                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-01-24 11:41 -0800
                                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-01-24 08:38 -0800
                                                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-24 09:42 -0800
                                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-25 04:01 +0000
                                                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-25 10:44 -0500
                                                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:06 +0000
                                                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-27 01:03 -0500
                                                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Dan C can suck my balls <Imustbejackingoff@the.moment> - 2016-01-25 16:06 -0800
                                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-26 09:22 -0500
                              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-18 08:11 -0600
                                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 10:08 -0500
                                  Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2016-01-18 15:19 +0000
                                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 11:49 -0500
                                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2016-01-18 17:59 +0100
                                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:07 +0000
                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com> - 2016-01-18 19:37 +0100
                                            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 14:02 -0500
                                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 11:06 -0600
                                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:16 +0000
                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 13:53 -0600
                                            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 16:20 -0500
                                              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:49 +0000
                                              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:41 -0600
                                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:04 +0000
                                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Jonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:09 +0000
                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 13:56 -0600
                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:44 +0000
                                        Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-18 21:43 +0000
                                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:42 -0600
                                            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Paul <nospam@needed.com> - 2016-01-19 00:01 -0500
                                              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-19 03:08 -0500
                                Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 11:12 -0600
                            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Mike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net> - 2016-01-17 14:33 -0500
                          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-18 14:30 -0600
                            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2016-01-18 15:37 -0500
                    Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-20 06:45 -0500
                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-20 07:30 -0500
                      Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-22 13:44 -0600
            Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-01-20 06:40 -0500
              Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-20 07:29 -0500
          Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> - 2016-01-15 14:29 -0600
    Re: Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder. Catzilla <catzilla@pussyboss.invalid> - 2016-01-14 00:51 +0000

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#186316 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromWildman <best_lay@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-18 13:53 -0600
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<5r2dnTobAbY73wDLnZ2dnUU7-aOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#186309
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:16:18 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:06:58 -0600, Wildman wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:49:21 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> 
>>> Godzilla wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:08:34 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>>
> 
> <snip>
> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Should work in Pan
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It may, but many do not. It appears that I cannot even add the Face
>>> header to SeaMonkey.
>> 
>> It does indeed work in Pan.
> 
> So I have confirmed, But not sure it is worth the extra bytes. There is a 
> certain charm and challenge in making something legible with the 
> restriction of 1-bit color. Kind of like how Doom was so much better with 
> what id did with such a restricted engine vs how underwhelming Doom 3 was 
> with all the eye-candy and such.

I still occasionally play Doom 1 and 2.  Don't have 3.
You got me curious.  I'll have to look for it now. <g>

-- 
<Wildman> GNU/Linux user #557453
The cow died so I don't need your bull!

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#186324 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

From"Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-18 16:20 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<n7jkqq$g8b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186316
Wildman wrote:

> I still occasionally play Doom 1 and 2.  Don't have 3.
> You got me curious.  I'll have to look for it now. <g>
>

It sucks. It broke all the rules of the original FPS, despite all the 
eye candy.

1 It tries to put a story to it.
2 Easter eggs without any clues.
3 Ambushes without any heads-up indication *
4 Flashlight OR Gun, not AND **
5 Environment that was basically like high-school-lockered hallway in 
the dark, yep there's an imp hiding in every other one!
6 Scripted cutscenes that whisks your control away and plops you in real 
... ***

* The first games gave the player visual and audible clues when monster 
was phasing in or when you were approaching a trap. Doom3 is chock-full 
of places where monsters just appeared without warning and traps that 
you can *only* discover by dying. It becomes a one-finger-always-on-F6 
game. So it becomes F9 to restore followed by memorizing to go two step 
forward, turn left, shoot 3 imps that magically appear, side-step right 
point up and shoot the wall crawler, ... Not fun!

** New "feature" that relates to above. There is an absolute 
predictability when it is pitch black there is going to be an ambush.

*** This is probably one of the most annoying "feature" you can add to a 
FPS. No matter how skillfully you precede, or how carefully plan your 
attacks in the game, at any moment the game will take over and have to 
do something really stupid, like walk straight into the biggest bad-ass 
at the worse possible time without your weapon of choice. Ugh!

Borrow it from somebody, don't pay money for it is my advice.

-- 
Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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#186329 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2016-01-18 21:49 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<n7jmkc$1jic$3@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#186324
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:20:54 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> Wildman wrote:
> 
>> I still occasionally play Doom 1 and 2.  Don't have 3.
>> You got me curious.  I'll have to look for it now. <g>
>>
>>
> It sucks. It broke all the rules of the original FPS, despite all the
> eye candy.
> 
> 1 It tries to put a story to it.
> 2 Easter eggs without any clues.


  Games without facetears...

  I think that was Peter Gabriel...

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#186332 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromWildman <best_lay@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-18 16:41 -0600
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<p-OdnXKQK-K89wDLnZ2dnUU7-ROdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#186324
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:20:54 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> Wildman wrote:
> 
>> I still occasionally play Doom 1 and 2.  Don't have 3.
>> You got me curious.  I'll have to look for it now. <g>
>>
> 
> It sucks. It broke all the rules of the original FPS, despite all the 
> eye candy.
> 
> 1 It tries to put a story to it.
> 2 Easter eggs without any clues.
> 3 Ambushes without any heads-up indication *
> 4 Flashlight OR Gun, not AND **
> 5 Environment that was basically like high-school-lockered hallway in 
> the dark, yep there's an imp hiding in every other one!
> 6 Scripted cutscenes that whisks your control away and plops you in real 
> ... ***
> 
> * The first games gave the player visual and audible clues when monster 
> was phasing in or when you were approaching a trap. Doom3 is chock-full 
> of places where monsters just appeared without warning and traps that 
> you can *only* discover by dying. It becomes a one-finger-always-on-F6 
> game. So it becomes F9 to restore followed by memorizing to go two step 
> forward, turn left, shoot 3 imps that magically appear, side-step right 
> point up and shoot the wall crawler, ... Not fun!
> 
> ** New "feature" that relates to above. There is an absolute 
> predictability when it is pitch black there is going to be an ambush.
> 
> *** This is probably one of the most annoying "feature" you can add to a 
> FPS. No matter how skillfully you precede, or how carefully plan your 
> attacks in the game, at any moment the game will take over and have to 
> do something really stupid, like walk straight into the biggest bad-ass 
> at the worse possible time without your weapon of choice. Ugh!
> 
> Borrow it from somebody, don't pay money for it is my advice.

I think my curiosity just disappeared.  Thanks for the review.
Think I will stick with 1 and 2.

-- 
<Wildman> GNU/Linux user #557453
The cow died so I don't need your bull!

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#186305 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromJonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-18 17:04 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<n7j5v1$sj1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186302
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:49:21 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

> Godzilla wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:08:34 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>
<snip>
> 
>> Should work in Pan
>>
>>
> It may, but many do not. It appears that I cannot even add the Face
> header to SeaMonkey.

Confirmed Pan does show Cyber's Face avatar, I'll see here if it will 
allow you to add it to your posts from Pan

-- 
Jonathan
=========================
www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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#186308 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromJonathan N Little <lws4art@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-18 17:09 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<n7j695$sj1$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186305
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:04:33 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:49:21 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> 
>> Godzilla wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:08:34 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>
> <snip>
>> 
>>> Should work in Pan
>>>
>> It may, but man
>>>y do not. It appears that I cannot even add the Face
>> header to SeaMonkey.
> 
> Confirmed Pan does show Cyber's Face avatar, I'll see here if it will
> allow you to add it to your posts from Pan

Yeah! I'm in color. 

-- 
Jonathan
=========================
www.LittleWorksStudio.com

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#186317 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromWildman <best_lay@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-18 13:56 -0600
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<5r2dnTUbAbbA3gDLnZ2dnUU7-aOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#186308
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:09:57 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:04:33 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:49:21 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> 
>>> Godzilla wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:08:34 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>>
>> <snip>
>>> 
>>>> Should work in Pan
>>>>
>>> It may, but man
>>>>y do not. It appears that I cannot even add the Face
>>> header to SeaMonkey.
>> 
>> Confirmed Pan does show Cyber's Face avatar, I'll see here if it will
>> allow you to add it to your posts from Pan
> 
> Yeah! I'm in color.

Maybe that is why the extra bytes are worth it.  :-)

-- 
<Wildman> GNU/Linux user #557453
The cow died so I don't need your bull!

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#186328 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2016-01-18 21:44 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<n7jmcr$1jic$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#186308
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:09:57 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:04:33 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:
snip
>>>>
>>> It may, but man
>>>>y do not. It appears that I cannot even add the Face
>>> header to SeaMonkey.
>> 
>> Confirmed Pan does show Cyber's Face avatar, I'll see here if it will
>> allow you to add it to your posts from Pan
> 
> Yeah! I'm in color.

Smellivision is next.

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#186327 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2016-01-18 21:43 +0000
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<n7jmaf$1jic$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#186305
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:04:33 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:49:21 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> 
>> Godzilla wrote:
>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:08:34 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>
> <snip>
>> 
>>> Should work in Pan
>>>
>>>
>> It may, but many do not. It appears that I cannot even add the Face
>> header to SeaMonkey.
> 
> Confirmed Pan does show Cyber's Face avatar, I'll see here if it will
> allow you to add it to your posts from Pan

  It also depends on the provider.  Seems that aioe does not allow it or 
pass the data for it.  It kills posts which have it, in fact.

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#186333 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromWildman <best_lay@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-18 16:42 -0600
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<p-OdnW2QK-Ls9wDLnZ2dnUU7-ROdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#186327
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:43:43 +0000, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:04:33 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:49:21 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> 
>>> Godzilla wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:08:34 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>>
>> <snip>
>>> 
>>>> Should work in Pan
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It may, but many do not. It appears that I cannot even add the Face
>>> header to SeaMonkey.
>> 
>> Confirmed Pan does show Cyber's Face avatar, I'll see here if it will
>> allow you to add it to your posts from Pan
> 
>   It also depends on the provider.  Seems that aioe does not allow it or 
> pass the data for it.  It kills posts which have it, in fact.

I used aioe for a short time and I had the same problem.  Seems
they have a header size limit.

-- 
<Wildman> GNU/Linux user #557453
The cow died so I don't need your bull!

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#186349 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromPaul <nospam@needed.com>
Date2016-01-19 00:01 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<n7kfq0$nvc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186333
Wildman wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:43:43 +0000, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:04:33 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:49:21 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>
>>>> Godzilla wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:08:34 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>>> Should work in Pan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It may, but many do not. It appears that I cannot even add the Face
>>>> header to SeaMonkey.
>>> Confirmed Pan does show Cyber's Face avatar, I'll see here if it will
>>> allow you to add it to your posts from Pan
>>   It also depends on the provider.  Seems that aioe does not allow it or 
>> pass the data for it.  It kills posts which have it, in fact.
> 
> I used aioe for a short time and I had the same problem.  Seems
> they have a header size limit.

The AIOE server was moved a couple weeks ago, and
the administrator is rebuilding the design and
rule base. I suppose this only matters, if you're
desperate for one more free server...

    Paul

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#186362 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2016-01-19 03:08 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<qjrr9b9l2kpck4sgjt0e2ds8b5e0985ov1@4ax.com>
In reply to#186349
On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:01:24 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.com> Gave us:

>Wildman wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:43:43 +0000, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:04:33 +0000, Jonathan N Little wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:49:21 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Godzilla wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 10:08:34 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> Should work in Pan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It may, but many do not. It appears that I cannot even add the Face
>>>>> header to SeaMonkey.
>>>> Confirmed Pan does show Cyber's Face avatar, I'll see here if it will
>>>> allow you to add it to your posts from Pan
>>>   It also depends on the provider.  Seems that aioe does not allow it or 
>>> pass the data for it.  It kills posts which have it, in fact.
>> 
>> I used aioe for a short time and I had the same problem.  Seems
>> they have a header size limit.
>
>The AIOE server was moved a couple weeks ago, and
>the administrator is rebuilding the design and
>rule base. I suppose this only matters, if you're
>desperate for one more free server...
>
>    Paul

  Desperation was never a factor though some posters seem desperate to
show their retarded opinions, when the relating of correct information
was quite sufficient.

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#186307 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromWildman <best_lay@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-18 11:12 -0600
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<w5idnVwNGahhgQDLnZ2dnUU7-KUAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#186296
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:11:11 -0600, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:15:39 +0000 (UTC)
> DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:
> 
>>   What app did you use to make your x-face with?
> 
> Oh, man, has that been forever ago.  It's a face, not an xface, that
> much I can tell you.
> 
> I seem to remember having this discussion with, I think, wildman.  I'm
> not sure, though.
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard

Yes, it was me.  I will start a new thread to explain things.

-- 
<Wildman> GNU/Linux user #557453
Re: Windows security:
There's no point in obsessing over something that doesn't exist.
	Cybe R. Wizard

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#186288 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromMike Yetto <unet.lighthouse@xoxy.net>
Date2016-01-17 14:33 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<slrn20160117143117.999.twooffive@may.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#186283
So it is writ by Cybe R. Wizard <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>,
so mote it be.
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 10:40:34 -0500
> Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote:

>> Ifyou want to continue this discussion I suggest we take it to email
>> and not continue it in the newsgroup.

> +1

> Thank you /SO/ much!

At the least it should go to alt.mythology.

Mike "not everyone believes in the same number of gods" Yetto
-- 
"Just like people, stars can be important without being terribly
bright."
 - Phil Plait

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#186319 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromNemo <Nemo@INVALID.org>
Date2016-01-18 14:30 -0600
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<pan.2016.01.18.20.30.14@INVALID.org>
In reply to#186282
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 10:40:34 -0500, Caver1 wrote:


> Ifyou want to continue this discussion I suggest we take it to email and
> not continue it in the newsgroup.
> If you do contact me at  .

that's very generous of you! I'll consider it but frankly I'm not sure how much 
more there is to discuss. I wanted citations about anointing (sometimes 
subsequent interpretations 'read into' things into texts). you supplied some
good ones.

the only left-over is the to me strange denial that 'baptizein' or dipping in water
has something to do with cleansing but that may be my fault as I did not 
make clear I meant it _symbolizes_ cleansing, not that it does an actual 
scrubbing!

I just think ancient documents are particularly hard to interpret soberly and in
their context.

f.

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#186321 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromCaver1 <caver1@inthemud.org>
Date2016-01-18 15:37 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<n7ji88$guk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#186319
On 01/18/2016 03:30 PM, Nemo wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 10:40:34 -0500, Caver1 wrote:
>
>
>> Ifyou want to continue this discussion I suggest we take it to email and
>> not continue it in the newsgroup.
>> If you do contact me at  .
>
> that's very generous of you! I'll consider it but frankly I'm not sure how much
> more there is to discuss. I wanted citations about anointing (sometimes
> subsequent interpretations 'read into' things into texts). you supplied some
> good ones.
>
> the only left-over is the to me strange denial that 'baptizein' or dipping in water
> has something to do with cleansing but that may be my fault as I did not
> make clear I meant it _symbolizes_ cleansing, not that it does an actual
> scrubbing!
>
> I just think ancient documents are particularly hard to interpret soberly and in
> their context.
>
> f.
>

It doesn't even symbolize cleaning.

-- 
Caver1

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#186398 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromBud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com>
Date2016-01-20 06:45 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<_bSdnUb207XK7gLLnZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#186270
Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> writes:

>
> Luke 2:26 Where it states seeing the Christ(anointed) of the Lord. One
> version, Geneva 1599 states " before he had seene that Anointed of the
> Lord."

That doesn't say that the "Lord" anointed him. 

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#186400 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2016-01-20 07:30 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<3fvu9b97c427gv6ikne1ndh63gc9et4dig@4ax.com>
In reply to#186398
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 06:45:27 -0500, Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com>
Gave us:

>Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> writes:
>
>>
>> Luke 2:26 Where it states seeing the Christ(anointed) of the Lord. One
>> version, Geneva 1599 states " before he had seene that Anointed of the
>> Lord."
>
>That doesn't say that the "Lord" anointed him. 

  Yes, it pretty much does.

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#186503 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromNemo <Nemo@INVALID.org>
Date2016-01-22 13:44 -0600
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<pan.2016.01.22.19.44.51@INVALID.org>
In reply to#186398
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 06:45:27 -0500, Bud Frede wrote:

> Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> writes:
> 
> 
>> Luke 2:26 Where it states seeing the Christ(anointed) of the Lord. One
>> version, Geneva 1599 states " before he had seene that Anointed of the
>> Lord."
> 
> That doesn't say that the "Lord" anointed him.

that's probably what it means though. stumbled on something: the 
expression was current usage in the early books of scripture, and I was very 
surprised to see it used in application to Cyrus, the Persian emperor! 
the Septuagint refers to Τῷ χριστῷ μου Κύρῳ Tō christō mou Kurō - 
'To Cyrus, my Christ,' the kings of Israel were called οι χρυστοὶ Κυρίου
 hoi christoi Kuriou." the last phrase means "the christs of the Lord"!

applied to Cyrus Barnes says "It means here that God had solemnly set 
apart Cyrus to perform an important public service in his cause. It does not 
mean that Cyrus was a man of piety, or a worshipper of the true God. [...] 
The title does not designate holiness of character, but appointment to an 
office."

the term has an interesting history!

anyway, back to business.

f.

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#186397 — Re: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.

FromBud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com>
Date2016-01-20 06:40 -0500
SubjectRe: [OT] Something for Aragorn (and others) to ponder.
Message-ID<_bSdnUf207Xf7wLLnZ2dnUU7-WednZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#186259
Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> writes:

> On 01/15/2016 07:14 AM, Bud Frede wrote:
>> Nemo <Nemo@INVALID.org> writes:
>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 13:14:14 +0100, Aragorn wrote:
>>>
>>>> and the word "Christ"
>>>> comes from the Greek word Kristos ─ meaning "the anointed one" ─ and may
>>>> have been derived from the name Krishna.
>>>
>>> etymology is fun to make up. in the less fun world of factual research 'christos' is the past
>>> participle in Greek of the verb 'krio' which means to 'anoint' (as you note) which I take it was
>>> a way of appointing someone king among the Hebrews; it is a Greek translation of the
>>> Hebrew word of the same meaning (viz. 'messiah').
>>
>> My impression is that someone who was anointed was simply a priest who
>> had been rubbed with oil and consecrated. There wasn't any connotation
>> of being a messiah, nor was it anything really special. I think I
>> remember reading that all priests were anointed at that time.
>>
>> Perhaps he was different because he wasn't a member of the priest class?
>> Was he anointed by his followers?
>>
>
> According to the Bible he was anointed by God.

God rubbed him with oil and consecrated him?

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