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| Started by | Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> |
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| First post | 2016-01-18 08:11 -0800 |
| Last post | 2016-01-21 09:08 -0500 |
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Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2016-01-18 08:11 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-18 10:34 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-18 20:21 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-19 00:42 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-18 23:04 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-19 01:13 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-19 19:49 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-18 17:42 +0100
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2016-01-18 16:45 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:03 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-18 22:35 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-18 22:36 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2016-01-19 12:08 +0000
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-19 08:46 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-19 20:05 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-20 07:40 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-20 08:43 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-20 11:57 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "E. Robinson" <E.Robinson@merck.com> - 2016-01-20 10:57 +0000
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:47 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "E. Robinson" <E.Robinson@merck.com> - 2016-01-20 19:49 +0000
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-20 14:31 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "E. Robinson" <E.Robinson@merck.com> - 2016-01-21 02:58 +0000
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 16:07 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "E. Robinson" <E.Robinson@merck.com> - 2016-01-21 03:00 +0000
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Gregor Kofler <usenet@gregorkofler.com> - 2016-01-21 16:28 +0100
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "E. Robinson" <E.Robinson@merck.com> - 2016-01-21 03:01 +0000
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 23:45 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-20 21:10 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 00:52 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-20 23:07 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 09:05 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-21 06:16 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-21 06:08 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:15 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 10:48 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-21 08:01 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 12:56 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-21 12:35 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-21 12:27 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-21 12:38 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-22 00:16 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-22 14:40 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-21 23:03 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2016-01-22 00:38 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-22 09:18 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-22 09:19 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-22 09:21 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-22 19:57 +0100
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-22 00:11 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-25 10:52 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-25 17:05 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-27 21:42 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-28 08:24 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2016-01-28 10:24 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-28 11:07 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-28 20:13 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-28 23:17 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 10:46 -0500
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-29 10:24 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-21 08:28 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2016-01-21 18:36 +0100
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-21 10:48 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2016-01-21 12:32 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-22 00:33 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-01-22 02:16 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" stepore <linshine@here.now> - 2016-01-22 23:25 -0800
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "E. Robinson" <E.Robinson@merck.com> - 2016-01-21 07:21 +0000
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2016-01-21 08:32 +0100
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" Harold Stevens <wookie@cindy.localdomain> - 2016-01-21 06:02 -0600
Re: Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 09:08 -0500
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| From | Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> |
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| Date | 2016-01-18 08:11 -0800 |
| Subject | Ubu makes 'adware' search thing "opt in" |
| Message-ID | <v8ydnfIeCrwYkwDLnZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/18/ubuntu_retires_scopes_unity_lts_gnu_linux/ "The 'commercial' search app, which combines product data from Amazon with data from your desktop and phone, is to be turned off by default in 16.04 LTS in April and in Unity 7 and 8." It's! ABOUT! TIME!!! [I always avoid this by NOT using 'Unity']
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-18 10:34 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <20160118103422.532c06c5@wizardstower.lan> |
| In reply to | #186299 |
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:11:40 -0800 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/18/ubuntu_retires_scopes_unity_lts_gnu_linux/ > > "The 'commercial' search app, which combines product data from Amazon > with data from your desktop and phone, is to be turned off by default > in 16.04 LTS in April and in Unity 7 and 8." > > It's! ABOUT! TIME!!! > > [I always avoid this by NOT using 'Unity'] After 4 years of spyware? Yes, it's about time. Cybe R. Wizard -- Registered GNU/Linux user # 126326 Registered Ubuntu User (deprecated) # 2136
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| From | stepore <linshine@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-01-18 20:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <n7kdes$ilk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186300 |
On 01/18/2016 08:34 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:11:40 -0800 > Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote: > >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/18/ubuntu_retires_scopes_unity_lts_gnu_linux/ >> >> "The 'commercial' search app, which combines product data from Amazon >> with data from your desktop and phone, is to be turned off by default >> in 16.04 LTS in April and in Unity 7 and 8." >> >> It's! ABOUT! TIME!!! >> >> [I always avoid this by NOT using 'Unity'] > > After 4 years of spyware? Yes, it's about time. Your crusade to saving everyone's souls from using Ubuntu must be getting tiring, no? Especially one that's been a non-issue since day 2 of this "spyware" nonsense.
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-19 00:42 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <20160119004235.5ef4fec0@wizardstower.lan> |
| In reply to | #186346 |
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 20:21:21 -0800 stepore <linshine@here.now> wrote: > On 01/18/2016 08:34 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:11:40 -0800 > > Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote: > > > >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/18/ubuntu_retires_scopes_unity_lts_gnu_linux/ > >> > >> "The 'commercial' search app, which combines product data from > >> Amazon with data from your desktop and phone, is to be turned off > >> by default in 16.04 LTS in April and in Unity 7 and 8." > >> > >> It's! ABOUT! TIME!!! > >> > >> [I always avoid this by NOT using 'Unity'] > > > > After 4 years of spyware? Yes, it's about time. > > Your crusade to saving everyone's souls from using Ubuntu must be > getting tiring, no? Especially one that's been a non-issue since day > 2 of this "spyware" nonsense. > It's only nonsense if you don't believe in freedom and my 'crusade' isn't about any one thing. There have been more than plenty 'things'. That said, I don't actually dissuade anyone from using Ubuntu if they can stomach it (knowing what its developers have been up to), but only attempt to both instruct and provide an easy to use alternative (Debian) without the personal Shuttleworth ego baggage which Ubuntu carries. I see that ATT have embraced Ubuntu and think that's a good thing when seen as opposed to embracing Microsoft. I can't say that embracing Debian wouldn't have been better, but they were looking for purchased support. How could I fault them (or Ubuntu) for that? Cybe R. Wizard -- Registered GNU/Linux user # 126326 Registered Ubuntu User (deprecated) # 2136
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| From | stepore <linshine@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-01-18 23:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <n7kn1h$9h9$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186357 |
On 01/18/2016 10:42 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > It's only nonsense if you don't believe in freedom and my 'crusade' > isn't about any one thing. There have been more than plenty 'things'. > It's nonsense because people were talking about (and showing) how to turn it off even before it came out. I believe in freedom. > That said, I don't actually dissuade anyone from using Ubuntu Are you sure you don't work in PR? > I see that ATT have embraced Ubuntu and think that's a good thing when > seen as opposed to embracing Microsoft. > > I can't say that embracing Debian wouldn't have been better, but they > were looking for purchased support. How could I fault them (or Ubuntu) > for that? You had me at "One hundred soulssss".
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-19 01:13 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <20160119011323.0a0fc552@wizardstower.lan> |
| In reply to | #186358 |
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 23:04:54 -0800 stepore <linshine@here.now> wrote: > On 01/18/2016 10:42 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > It's only nonsense if you don't believe in freedom and my 'crusade' > > isn't about any one thing. There have been more than plenty > > 'things'. > > It's nonsense because people were talking about (and showing) how to > turn it off even before it came out. Had it not been for the controversy the Great Unwashed would have been none the wiser about just how their searches were being used. Something such as that should be opt in, not opt out. Otherwise, spyware. > > I believe in freedom. Only for you and yours, or for mine as well? > > > That said, I don't actually dissuade anyone from using Ubuntu > > Are you sure you don't work in PR? I probably could but there's not enough money. ...anywhere. > > > I see that ATT have embraced Ubuntu and think that's a good thing > > when seen as opposed to embracing Microsoft. > > > > I can't say that embracing Debian wouldn't have been better, but > > they were looking for purchased support. How could I fault them > > (or Ubuntu) for that? > > You had me at "One hundred soulssss". > Ah, so. I'm disinclined to acquiesce. ...or sumpin. ;-] Cybe R. Wizard -- Registered GNU/Linux user # 126326 Registered Ubuntu User (deprecated) # 2136
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| From | stepore <linshine@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-01-19 19:49 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <n7mvu7$juh$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186359 |
On 01/18/2016 11:13 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > <snip> > Something such as that should be opt in, not opt out. Have always agreed with that. > Otherwise, > spyware. Not so much with this. >> >> I believe in freedom. > > Only for you and yours, or for mine as well? For yours too. Even if only for your freedom to be wrong ;) > Ah, so. I'm disinclined to acquiesce. ...or sumpin. "Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose"
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| From | "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> |
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| Date | 2016-01-18 17:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <569d1606$0$23824$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> |
| In reply to | #186299 |
Op 18-01-16 om 17:11 schreef Big Bad Bob: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/18/ubuntu_retires_scopes_unity_lts_gnu_linux/ > > "The 'commercial' search app, which combines product data from Amazon > with data from your desktop and phone, is to be turned off by default in > 16.04 LTS in April and in Unity 7 and 8." > > It's! ABOUT! TIME!!! > > [I always avoid this by NOT using 'Unity'] > Right so, it was easy enough to do it yourself, like easier than to switch off the 'Transmissions' in Win10 but it was the wrong way around. At the same time it was another reason to use an alternative DE like Kubuntu.
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| From | Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> |
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| Date | 2016-01-18 16:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <94ednfCtqKWaGgDLnZ2dnUU7-cednZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #186301 |
On 01/18/16 08:42, Dirk T. Verbeek so wittily quipped: > Op 18-01-16 om 17:11 schreef Big Bad Bob: >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/18/ubuntu_retires_scopes_unity_lts_gnu_linux/ >> >> >> "The 'commercial' search app, which combines product data from Amazon >> with data from your desktop and phone, is to be turned off by default in >> 16.04 LTS in April and in Unity 7 and 8." >> >> It's! ABOUT! TIME!!! >> >> [I always avoid this by NOT using 'Unity'] >> > Right so, it was easy enough to do it yourself, like easier than to > switch off the 'Transmissions' in Win10 but it was the wrong way around. > > At the same time it was another reason to use an alternative DE like > Kubuntu. exactly, "not unity" was the workaround, pretty simple. I think it's why people frowned but didn't go bat-shit-nutz over it.
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| From | "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-18 20:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n7k1sj$meg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186338 |
Big Bad Bob wrote: > On 01/18/16 08:42, Dirk T. Verbeek so wittily quipped: >> Op 18-01-16 om 17:11 schreef Big Bad Bob: >>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/18/ubuntu_retires_scopes_unity_lts_gnu_linux/ >>> >>> >>> "The 'commercial' search app, which combines product data from Amazon >>> with data from your desktop and phone, is to be turned off by default in >>> 16.04 LTS in April and in Unity 7 and 8." >>> >>> It's! ABOUT! TIME!!! >>> >>> [I always avoid this by NOT using 'Unity'] >>> >> Right so, it was easy enough to do it yourself, like easier than to >> switch off the 'Transmissions' in Win10 but it was the wrong way around. >> >> At the same time it was another reason to use an alternative DE like >> Kubuntu. > > exactly, "not unity" was the workaround, pretty simple. I think it's > why people frowned but didn't go bat-shit-nutz over it. > No, just simply click from On to Off for Online Search was all that was needed. Was that so hard? -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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| From | stepore <linshine@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-01-18 22:35 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <n7klb3$50n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186339 |
On 01/18/2016 05:03 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: > No, just simply click from On to Off for Online Search was all that was > needed. Was that so hard? > Apparently it was. F
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| From | stepore <linshine@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-01-18 22:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <n7klch$50n$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186354 |
On 01/18/2016 10:35 PM, stepore wrote: > On 01/18/2016 05:03 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: >> No, just simply click from On to Off for Online Search was all that was >> needed. Was that so hard? >> > > Apparently it was. F > Er... too soon ;) Apparently it was. For more than a few folks in here.
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| From | mechanic <mechanic@example.net> |
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| Date | 2016-01-19 12:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <yd01e3c6ufld.dlg@example1357.net> |
| In reply to | #186339 |
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 20:03:45 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote: > No, just simply click from On to Off for Online Search was all > that was needed. Was that so hard? Apparently for Cybe it was, he even thought it was secret, hence 'spyware'. Nonsense.
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-19 08:46 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <20160119084619.6b731d0f@wizardstower.lan> |
| In reply to | #186364 |
On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:08:50 +0000 mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 20:03:45 -0500, Jonathan N. Little wrote: > > > No, just simply click from On to Off for Online Search was all > > that was needed. Was that so hard? > > Apparently for Cybe it was, he even thought it was secret, hence > 'spyware'. Nonsense. Not reading for content yet? I never thought it to be secret, only secretive. There wasn't much notice about the intrusive nature of the beast. Cybe R. Wizard -- Registered GNU/Linux user # 126326 Registered Ubuntu User (deprecated) # 2136
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| From | stepore <linshine@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-01-19 20:05 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <n7n0tl$m9k$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186370 |
On 01/19/2016 06:46 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >There wasn't much notice about the intrusive nature of the > beast. Er, maybe not initially by Canonical. But the main culprit for all this mess (at least initially) was called 'unity-lens-shopping'. So, maybe a little "buyer beware". ¯¯\_(°_°)_/¯¯
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| From | "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-20 07:40 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <20160120074043.156795db@wizardstower.lan> |
| In reply to | #186391 |
On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:05:46 -0800 stepore <linshine@here.now> wrote: > On 01/19/2016 06:46 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > >There wasn't much notice about the intrusive nature of the > > beast. > > Er, maybe not initially by Canonical. But the main culprit for all > this mess (at least initially) was called 'unity-lens-shopping'. So, > maybe a little "buyer beware". ¯¯\_(°_°)_/¯¯ > If I remember correctly the 'shopping lens' and the furor it began, particularly after $huttleworth's outright refusal to listen to those wishing the simple change to opt-in, led to the biggest desertion yet from Ubuntu desktop. That efffect can be seen in the numbers here: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/> on the ubuntu-useers mailing list archive. Cybe R. Wizard -- Registered GNU/Linux user # 126326 Registered Ubuntu User (deprecated) # 2136
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| From | stepore <linshine@here.now> |
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| Date | 2016-01-20 08:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <n7odae$91q$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186401 |
On 01/20/2016 05:40 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > If I remember correctly the 'shopping lens' and the furor it began, > particularly after $huttleworth's outright refusal to listen to those > wishing the simple change to opt-in, led to the biggest desertion yet > from Ubuntu desktop. > I agree about shuttleworth being a dick at times, but "biggest desertion"? Sorry I don't see it. > That efffect can be seen in the numbers here: > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/> > on the ubuntu-useers mailing list archive. > You may be a PR expert in another life, but in this one, you ain't no data scientist. I see no correlation from the numbers you're drawing inference from there. And worse, you drawing any correlation between the numbers from a mailing list to those of people actually using Ubuntu desktop (or server) over all! Could be trends to forums or other such Ubuntu help sites. Shame shame.
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| From | DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> |
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| Date | 2016-01-20 11:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <k1fv9b17h0iren8cm5g9c8hftgqg2n9hk4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #186401 |
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 07:40:43 -0600, "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> Gave us: >On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 20:05:46 -0800 >stepore <linshine@here.now> wrote: > >> On 01/19/2016 06:46 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >> >There wasn't much notice about the intrusive nature of the >> > beast. >> >> Er, maybe not initially by Canonical. But the main culprit for all >> this mess (at least initially) was called 'unity-lens-shopping'. So, >> maybe a little "buyer beware". ¯¯\_(°_°)_/¯¯ >> >If I remember correctly the 'shopping lens' and the furor it began, >particularly after $huttleworth's outright refusal to listen to those >wishing the simple change to opt-in, led to the biggest desertion yet >from Ubuntu desktop. > >That efffect can be seen in the numbers here: ><https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/> >on the ubuntu-useers mailing list archive. > >Cybe R. Wizard A simple chronological trend review of distrowatch standings shows it clearly as well.
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| From | "E. Robinson" <E.Robinson@merck.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-20 10:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n7np79$tbp$4@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #186299 |
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:11:40 -0800, Big Bad Bob wrote: > [I always avoid this by NOT using 'Unity'] I had Unity when I installed 13.10, and hated it. I wonder if it's better now? Does Unity still fail in the simplest of things? For example, does the new Unity still fail to put the window controls on the top right corner of full-sized windows (where it is set on the smaller windows)? Does the new Unity still fail to distinguish between a Firefox icon and a (very different) Tor Browser Bundle Firefox icon? Does the new Unity still lack the simplest concepts, such as cascaded menus? Does the user still need to constantly click numerous times on the icons just to find the "right" opened window when multiple windows of the same application are open at the same time? Did the new Unity introduce *new* annoyances? NOTE: Alt.hacker xpost removed.
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| From | "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-20 10:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n7oa24$s01$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #186396 |
E. Robinson wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:11:40 -0800, Big Bad Bob wrote: > >> [I always avoid this by NOT using 'Unity'] > > I had Unity when I installed 13.10, and hated it. > I wonder if it's better now? > > Does Unity still fail in the simplest of things? "fail" for some, "different" for others. > > For example, does the new Unity still fail to put the window controls > on the top right corner of full-sized windows (where it is set on the > smaller windows)? Yes. And the reason is CONTINUITY. When the window is maximized the controls on the right would interfere with the indicators. To have to controls bounce from right to left and left to right is bad design...bouncing controls hither and yon smacks of another OS's experiment with UI change. > > Does the new Unity still fail to distinguish between a Firefox icon > and a (very different) Tor Browser Bundle Firefox icon? Might. But that more has to to do with the packaging of Tor. But of course you could always make a custom shortcut, .desktop file. > > Does the new Unity still lack the simplest concepts, such as cascaded > menus? Yes, because it is contrary to the design. It is like saying does that boat still lack wheels? Both UI paradigms get you from point A to point B but just with a different approach to get there. If you MUST have menus then Unity is not your desktop. Luckily you are not stuck with it, you have a choice. > > Does the user still need to constantly click numerous times on the > icons just to find the "right" opened window when multiple windows > of the same application are open at the same time? Numerous times? No. You click ONCE and the multiple windows EXPOSÉ layout. Pick the one you want. > > Did the new Unity introduce *new* annoyances? > "*new* annoyances" That very subjective. Personally I have found workflow considerably more efficient with Unity than GNOME2 menu-oriented UI. But 1) you DO have to change how you work, 2) learn the interface (BTW) you had to that with GNOME2). Ever see someone type like a typewriter with a word-processor? Is the typewriter more efficient? Well if one insists on multiple spaces and hard carriage returns at the 72nd character then the advantages of word-processor will not be apparent. So if you are a typewriter-type of guy then stick with Xubuntu to Lubuntu. You have options. > > NOTE: Alt.hacker xpost removed. > Good pickup, I missed that. Damn xposters.... -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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