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distro vs. happiness

Started byJim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca>
First post2023-03-08 14:45 -0400
Last post2023-03-15 10:14 -0700
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  distro vs. happiness Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> - 2023-03-08 14:45 -0400
    Re: distro vs. happiness Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2023-03-08 21:08 +0000
      Re: distro vs. happiness Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> - 2023-03-08 21:02 -0400
    Re: distro vs. happiness bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> - 2023-03-12 22:39 -0400
      Re: distro vs. happiness maus <maus@mail.com> - 2023-03-13 08:15 +0000
      Re: distro vs. happiness Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> - 2023-03-13 20:24 -0300
        Re: distro vs. happiness bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> - 2023-03-15 07:37 -0400
          Re: distro vs. happiness bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> - 2023-03-15 08:32 -0400
          Re: distro vs. happiness Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@jdvb.ca> - 2023-03-20 15:22 -0300
      Re: distro vs. happiness Mike Small <smallm@panix.com> - 2023-03-20 21:33 -0400
    Re: distro vs. happiness Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> - 2023-03-15 10:14 -0700

#34111 — distro vs. happiness

FromJim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date2023-03-08 14:45 -0400
Subjectdistro vs. happiness
Message-ID<slrnu0hlun.mug.JimDiamond@x360.localdomain>
This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness.  Scroll about
1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.        

https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those

Jim

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#34117

FromHenrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com>
Date2023-03-08 21:08 +0000
Message-ID<tuatfv$12vp9$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#34111
I think that a feeling of being in control of things make you happy. With 
Slackware you have full control.

regards Henrik

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#34118

FromJim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date2023-03-08 21:02 -0400
Message-ID<slrnu0ic1c.8fu.JimDiamond@x360.localdomain>
In reply to#34117
On 2023-03-08 at 17:08 AST, Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote:
> I think that a feeling of being in control of things make you happy. With 
> Slackware you have full control.
>
> regards Henrik

I was thinking it was "don't have systemd".  But I suppose that is included
in what you said.  :-)

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#34141

Frombad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net>
Date2023-03-12 22:39 -0400
Message-ID<99ednUwdAYdEEZP5nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#34111
On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote:
> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness.  Scroll about
> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
> 
> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
> 
> Jim

Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way 
to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was 
scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever 
would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up 
more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be 
told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any 
other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why? 
Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96, 
and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to 
shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.

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#34145

Frommaus <maus@mail.com>
Date2023-03-13 08:15 +0000
Message-ID<k784d5F2dlmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#34141
On 2023-03-13, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote:
> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote:
>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness.  Scroll about
>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
>> 
>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
>> 
>> Jim
>
> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way 
> to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was 
> scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever 
> would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up 
> more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be 
> told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any 
> other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why? 
> Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96, 
> and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to 
> shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.
>

++

-- 
greymausg@mail.com
where is our money gone, Dude?

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#34147

FromJim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date2023-03-13 20:24 -0300
Message-ID<slrnu0vc61.o4j.JimDiamond@x360.localdomain>
In reply to#34141
On 2023-03-12 at 23:39 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote:
> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote:
>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness.  Scroll about
>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
>> 
>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
>> 
>> Jim
>
> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way 
> to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was 
> scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever 
> would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up 
> more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be 
> told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any 
> other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why? 
> Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96, 
> and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to 
> shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.

I understand why you would keep Slackware.  I have to admit I'm really
curious about why you bother with the other ones.  (I played around with a
couple before 15.0 came out because 14.2 was getting too old to use, but
hopefully that issue won't happen again.)

                                Jim

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#34166

Frombad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net>
Date2023-03-15 07:37 -0400
Message-ID<zgCdnZLhvZyJM4z5nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#34147
On 3/13/23 19:24, Jim Diamond wrote:
> On 2023-03-12 at 23:39 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote:
>> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote:
>>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness.  Scroll about
>>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
>>>
>>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way
>> to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was
>> scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever
>> would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up
>> more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be
>> told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any
>> other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why?
>> Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96,
>> and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to
>> shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.
> 
> I understand why you would keep Slackware.  I have to admit I'm really
> curious about why you bother with the other ones.  (I played around with a
> couple before 15.0 came out because 14.2 was getting too old to use, but
> hopefully that issue won't happen again.)
> 
>                                  Jim

I tinker around with the other ones because, as I suspected would 
happen, the amount of useless differences helps me get better insight 
into using Linux. The imposed stupidities in some others make me 
appreciate Slackware's purist KISS philosophy (which does NOT have to 
mean using only the keyboard). When I see Sylpheed operate without a 
single hickup in a single remote directory used by all the 7 distros 
then I see how that's an example I'd insist for every other app to 
follow religiously but I'd never dicover this without stretching the 
constraints! Ditto for Slackware allowing me to log in at cLi level 
before starting X with a simple 'startx'. The freaking DMs imposed by 
nearly all other distros make me wanna puke, all they do is hide what's 
going on I mean IF starting a DE is too complicated (which it isn't 
unless you MAKE it complicated) then why not log-in AND start X manually 
and THEN start just the DE launching module of the DM? As I said 
watching upgrades compiling is pure joy while most of the others are 
getting a little too 'involved'. I can only recommend what I'm doing 
because it has brought me only positives  ...after about a year's worth 
of walking barefoot on broken glass :-)



-- 
Artificial-Stupidity will never be competitive

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#34168

Frombad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net>
Date2023-03-15 08:32 -0400
Message-ID<laudnVSLn8NqJ4z5nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#34166
On 3/15/23 07:37, bad sector wrote:
> On 3/13/23 19:24, Jim Diamond wrote:
>> On 2023-03-12 at 23:39 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote:
>>>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness.  Scroll 
>>>> about
>>>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
>>>>
>>>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way
>>> to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was
>>> scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever
>>> would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up
>>> more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be
>>> told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any
>>> other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why?
>>> Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96,
>>> and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to
>>> shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.
>>
>> I understand why you would keep Slackware.  I have to admit I'm really
>> curious about why you bother with the other ones.  (I played around 
>> with a
>> couple before 15.0 came out because 14.2 was getting too old to use, but
>> hopefully that issue won't happen again.)
>>
>>                                  Jim
> 
> I tinker around with the other ones because, as I suspected would 
> happen, the amount of useless differences helps me get better insight 
> into using Linux. The imposed stupidities in some others make me 
> appreciate Slackware's purist KISS philosophy (which does NOT have to 
> mean using only the keyboard). When I see Sylpheed operate without a 
> single hickup in a single remote directory used by all the 7 distros 
> then I see how that's an example I'd insist for every other app to 
> follow religiously but I'd never dicover this without stretching the 
> constraints! Ditto for Slackware allowing me to log in at cLi level 
> before starting X with a simple 'startx'. The freaking DMs imposed by 
> nearly all other distros make me wanna puke, all they do is hide what's 
> going on I mean IF starting a DE is too complicated (which it isn't 
> unless you MAKE it complicated) then why not log-in AND start X manually 
> and THEN start just the DE launching module of the DM?

red-pencil:

I meant log-in and then start only the DE launching module of whatever DM



> As I said 
> watching upgrades compiling is pure joy while most of the others are 
> getting a little too 'involved'. I can only recommend what I'm doing 
> because it has brought me only positives  ...after about a year's worth 
> of walking barefoot on broken glass :-)
> 
> 
> 

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#34185

FromJim Diamond <JimDiamond@jdvb.ca>
Date2023-03-20 15:22 -0300
Message-ID<slrnu1h939.kpl.JimDiamond@x360.localdomain>
In reply to#34166
On 2023-03-15 at 08:37 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote:
> On 3/13/23 19:24, Jim Diamond wrote:
>> On 2023-03-12 at 23:39 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote:
>>>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness.  Scroll about
>>>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
>>>>
>>>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
z>>> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way
>>> to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was
>>> scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever
>>> would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up
>>> more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be
>>> told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any
>>> other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why?
>>> Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96,
>>> and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to
>>> shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.
>> 
>> I understand why you would keep Slackware.  I have to admit I'm really
>> curious about why you bother with the other ones.  (I played around with a
>> couple before 15.0 came out because 14.2 was getting too old to use, but
>> hopefully that issue won't happen again.)

> I tinker around with the other ones because, as I suspected would 
> happen, the amount of useless differences helps me get better insight 
> into using Linux.
<snip>
> I can only recommend what I'm doing because it has brought me
> only positives ...after about a year's worth of walking barefoot on
> broken glass :-)

Huh.  OK, I guess that makes sense.  It seems like a painful way to achieve
the goal, but if it works for you, why not?

                                Jim

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#34190

FromMike Small <smallm@panix.com>
Date2023-03-20 21:33 -0400
Message-ID<jpkwn3asxbc.fsf@panix5.panix.com>
In reply to#34141
bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> writes:

> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote:
>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness.  Scroll about
>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
>>
>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
>>
>> Jim
>
> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the
> way to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It
> was scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I
> ever would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps
> set up more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT,
> truth be told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not
> have it any other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every
> Wednesday). Why? Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably
> around '95 or '96, and even now when I upgrade and see code being
> compiled... if I had to shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.

I like it. I don't know if I'll reach your level (out of disk space for
one thing), but adopting that kind of attitude might cure the weird idea
possessing me that I have to 1. decide once and for all whether I'm a
NetBSD, OpenBSD, Slackware, Debian, or Plan 9 person and 2. be faithful
as if I'm married to one system. Distro promiscuity (and not over
thinking decisions) sounds more appealing.


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#34169

FromJimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid>
Date2023-03-15 10:14 -0700
Message-ID<tusudt$vki8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#34111
On 03/08/2023 10:45 AM, Jim Diamond wrote:
> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness.  Scroll about
> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
> 
> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
> 
> Jim

Slackware is happiness for people who like to code and it's easy to use.
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Slackware64 Current - AMD A8-7600 at sda7
Registered Linux User #380263

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