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| Started by | Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> |
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| First post | 2023-03-08 14:45 -0400 |
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distro vs. happiness Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> - 2023-03-08 14:45 -0400
Re: distro vs. happiness Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2023-03-08 21:08 +0000
Re: distro vs. happiness Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> - 2023-03-08 21:02 -0400
Re: distro vs. happiness bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> - 2023-03-12 22:39 -0400
Re: distro vs. happiness maus <maus@mail.com> - 2023-03-13 08:15 +0000
Re: distro vs. happiness Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> - 2023-03-13 20:24 -0300
Re: distro vs. happiness bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> - 2023-03-15 07:37 -0400
Re: distro vs. happiness bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> - 2023-03-15 08:32 -0400
Re: distro vs. happiness Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@jdvb.ca> - 2023-03-20 15:22 -0300
Re: distro vs. happiness Mike Small <smallm@panix.com> - 2023-03-20 21:33 -0400
Re: distro vs. happiness Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> - 2023-03-15 10:14 -0700
| From | Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> |
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| Date | 2023-03-08 14:45 -0400 |
| Subject | distro vs. happiness |
| Message-ID | <slrnu0hlun.mug.JimDiamond@x360.localdomain> |
This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness. Scroll about 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those Jim
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| From | Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-08 21:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <tuatfv$12vp9$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34111 |
I think that a feeling of being in control of things make you happy. With Slackware you have full control. regards Henrik
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| From | Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> |
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| Date | 2023-03-08 21:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <slrnu0ic1c.8fu.JimDiamond@x360.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #34117 |
On 2023-03-08 at 17:08 AST, Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote: > I think that a feeling of being in control of things make you happy. With > Slackware you have full control. > > regards Henrik I was thinking it was "don't have systemd". But I suppose that is included in what you said. :-)
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| From | bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> |
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| Date | 2023-03-12 22:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <99ednUwdAYdEEZP5nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #34111 |
On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote: > This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness. Scroll about > 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places. > > https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those > > Jim Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why? Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96, and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.
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| From | maus <maus@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-13 08:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <k784d5F2dlmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #34141 |
On 2023-03-13, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote: > On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote: >> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness. Scroll about >> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places. >> >> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those >> >> Jim > > Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way > to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was > scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever > would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up > more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be > told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any > other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why? > Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96, > and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to > shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain. > ++ -- greymausg@mail.com where is our money gone, Dude?
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| From | Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@ns.sympatico.ca> |
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| Date | 2023-03-13 20:24 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <slrnu0vc61.o4j.JimDiamond@x360.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #34141 |
On 2023-03-12 at 23:39 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote:
> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote:
>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness. Scroll about
>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
>>
>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
>>
>> Jim
>
> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way
> to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was
> scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever
> would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up
> more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be
> told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any
> other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why?
> Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96,
> and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to
> shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.
I understand why you would keep Slackware. I have to admit I'm really
curious about why you bother with the other ones. (I played around with a
couple before 15.0 came out because 14.2 was getting too old to use, but
hopefully that issue won't happen again.)
Jim
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| From | bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> |
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| Date | 2023-03-15 07:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zgCdnZLhvZyJM4z5nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #34147 |
On 3/13/23 19:24, Jim Diamond wrote: > On 2023-03-12 at 23:39 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote: >> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote: >>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness. Scroll about >>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places. >>> >>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those >>> >>> Jim >> >> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way >> to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was >> scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever >> would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up >> more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be >> told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any >> other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why? >> Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96, >> and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to >> shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain. > > I understand why you would keep Slackware. I have to admit I'm really > curious about why you bother with the other ones. (I played around with a > couple before 15.0 came out because 14.2 was getting too old to use, but > hopefully that issue won't happen again.) > > Jim I tinker around with the other ones because, as I suspected would happen, the amount of useless differences helps me get better insight into using Linux. The imposed stupidities in some others make me appreciate Slackware's purist KISS philosophy (which does NOT have to mean using only the keyboard). When I see Sylpheed operate without a single hickup in a single remote directory used by all the 7 distros then I see how that's an example I'd insist for every other app to follow religiously but I'd never dicover this without stretching the constraints! Ditto for Slackware allowing me to log in at cLi level before starting X with a simple 'startx'. The freaking DMs imposed by nearly all other distros make me wanna puke, all they do is hide what's going on I mean IF starting a DE is too complicated (which it isn't unless you MAKE it complicated) then why not log-in AND start X manually and THEN start just the DE launching module of the DM? As I said watching upgrades compiling is pure joy while most of the others are getting a little too 'involved'. I can only recommend what I'm doing because it has brought me only positives ...after about a year's worth of walking barefoot on broken glass :-) -- Artificial-Stupidity will never be competitive
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| From | bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> |
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| Date | 2023-03-15 08:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <laudnVSLn8NqJ4z5nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #34166 |
On 3/15/23 07:37, bad sector wrote: > On 3/13/23 19:24, Jim Diamond wrote: >> On 2023-03-12 at 23:39 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote: >>> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote: >>>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness. Scroll >>>> about >>>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places. >>>> >>>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those >>>> >>>> Jim >>> >>> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way >>> to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was >>> scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever >>> would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up >>> more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be >>> told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any >>> other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why? >>> Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96, >>> and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to >>> shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain. >> >> I understand why you would keep Slackware. I have to admit I'm really >> curious about why you bother with the other ones. (I played around >> with a >> couple before 15.0 came out because 14.2 was getting too old to use, but >> hopefully that issue won't happen again.) >> >> Jim > > I tinker around with the other ones because, as I suspected would > happen, the amount of useless differences helps me get better insight > into using Linux. The imposed stupidities in some others make me > appreciate Slackware's purist KISS philosophy (which does NOT have to > mean using only the keyboard). When I see Sylpheed operate without a > single hickup in a single remote directory used by all the 7 distros > then I see how that's an example I'd insist for every other app to > follow religiously but I'd never dicover this without stretching the > constraints! Ditto for Slackware allowing me to log in at cLi level > before starting X with a simple 'startx'. The freaking DMs imposed by > nearly all other distros make me wanna puke, all they do is hide what's > going on I mean IF starting a DE is too complicated (which it isn't > unless you MAKE it complicated) then why not log-in AND start X manually > and THEN start just the DE launching module of the DM? red-pencil: I meant log-in and then start only the DE launching module of whatever DM > As I said > watching upgrades compiling is pure joy while most of the others are > getting a little too 'involved'. I can only recommend what I'm doing > because it has brought me only positives ...after about a year's worth > of walking barefoot on broken glass :-) > > >
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| From | Jim Diamond <JimDiamond@jdvb.ca> |
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| Date | 2023-03-20 15:22 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <slrnu1h939.kpl.JimDiamond@x360.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #34166 |
On 2023-03-15 at 08:37 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote:
> On 3/13/23 19:24, Jim Diamond wrote:
>> On 2023-03-12 at 23:39 ADT, bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote:
>>>> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness. Scroll about
>>>> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places.
>>>>
>>>> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
z>>> Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the way
>>> to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It was
>>> scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I ever
>>> would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps set up
>>> more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, truth be
>>> told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not have it any
>>> other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every Wednesday). Why?
>>> Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably around '95 or '96,
>>> and even now when I upgrade and see code being compiled... if I had to
>>> shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain.
>>
>> I understand why you would keep Slackware. I have to admit I'm really
>> curious about why you bother with the other ones. (I played around with a
>> couple before 15.0 came out because 14.2 was getting too old to use, but
>> hopefully that issue won't happen again.)
> I tinker around with the other ones because, as I suspected would
> happen, the amount of useless differences helps me get better insight
> into using Linux.
<snip>
> I can only recommend what I'm doing because it has brought me
> only positives ...after about a year's worth of walking barefoot on
> broken glass :-)
Huh. OK, I guess that makes sense. It seems like a painful way to achieve
the goal, but if it works for you, why not?
Jim
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| From | Mike Small <smallm@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2023-03-20 21:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jpkwn3asxbc.fsf@panix5.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #34141 |
bad sector <forgetski@INVALID.net> writes: > On 3/8/23 13:45, Jim Diamond wrote: >> This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness. Scroll about >> 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places. >> >> https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those >> >> Jim > > Less than a year ago I upgraded from running 2 or 3 distros all the > way to 7 so that I can boot a different one every day of the week. It > was scary for a good many momths, running into more problems than I > ever would have wanted as I tried to make them all run the same apps > set up more or less the same way on the desktop that I want. BUT, > truth be told, I am starting to feel very OK with it and would not > have it any other way now! Needles to say Slackware is there (every > Wednesday). Why? Because it was the first Linux I ever tried, probably > around '95 or '96, and even now when I upgrade and see code being > compiled... if I had to shed 6 of the 7 Slackware would remain. I like it. I don't know if I'll reach your level (out of disk space for one thing), but adopting that kind of attitude might cure the weird idea possessing me that I have to 1. decide once and for all whether I'm a NetBSD, OpenBSD, Slackware, Debian, or Plan 9 person and 2. be faithful as if I'm married to one system. Distro promiscuity (and not over thinking decisions) sounds more appealing.
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| From | Jimmy Johnson <Jimmy@disposable.invalid> |
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| Date | 2023-03-15 10:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <tusudt$vki8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34111 |
On 03/08/2023 10:45 AM, Jim Diamond wrote: > This article gives some info on Linux distro vs. happiness. Scroll about > 1/2 way down to find out where Slackware places. > > https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-least-happy-computer-users-those > > Jim Slackware is happiness for people who like to code and it's easy to use. -- Jimmy Johnson Slackware64 Current - AMD A8-7600 at sda7 Registered Linux User #380263
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