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  Slackware, Inc.?  Internet Relay Chat buffoonery David Chmelik <dchmelik@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 05:00 +0000
    Re: Slackware, Inc.?  Internet Relay Chat buffoonery Alexander Grotewohl <alexm0n@gmail.com> - 2024-02-20 05:17 +0000
    Re: Slackware, Inc.?  Internet Relay Chat buffoonery Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2024-02-20 06:21 +0000
    Re: Slackware, Inc.? Internet Relay Chat buffoonery slash <slash@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-21 09:34 +0100
      Re: Slackware, Inc.? Internet Relay Chat buffoonery David Chmelik <dchmelik@gmail.com> - 2024-02-28 09:49 +0000
      Re: [...] Internet Relay Chat buffoonery David Chmelik <dchmelik@gmail.com> - 2026-06-20 23:00 +0000
        Re: [...] Internet Relay Chat buffoonery noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-06-21 12:56 +1000
          Re: [...] Internet Relay Chat buffoonery David Chmelik <dchmelik@gmail.com> - 2026-07-03 04:03 +0000
            Re: [...] Internet Relay Chat buffoonery noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2026-07-03 16:58 +1000

#34673 — Slackware, Inc.? Internet Relay Chat buffoonery

Where could I lookup information about Slackware, Inc.?  I also suppose 
it's for-profit, even if no profit is being made from items such as 
compact/digital_versatile discs (CDs/DVDs) (but was in past)?
    There's a fair bit of libera Internet Relay Chat (IRC) ##slackware 
buffoonery (even since days of freenode, but moreso) like one European 
chatter (not native English speaker) claiming Slackware isn't or never was 
commercial, because doesn't sell official technical support, when 
'commercial' just refers to 'commerce', or buying & selling anything at 
all including CDs/DVDs (so Slackware at least was commercial for decades) 
or arguably even just software/code people download (from servers that 
have to be paid for) that many people pay Patrick Volkerding on paypal.com 
and patreon.com so he's actually making a modest salary for several/few 
years.  I'd still call this commercial, despite being paid in a new way 
people still receive something useful (despite intangible).  Patrick also 
sells t-shirts, etc. on cafepress.com, which is commercial, even though 
it's not CDs/DVDs.  Licenses also don't restrict others selling technical 
support, which several do linked on slackware.com.
    At least one IRC chatter is (c)rude and attacks other chatters, but 
one runs an unofficial Slackware archive, and admitted he's a troll.

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#34674

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 05:00:34 -0000 (UTC), David Chmelik wrote:

> Where could I lookup information about Slackware, Inc.?  I also suppose
> it's for-profit, even if no profit is being made from items such as
> compact/digital_versatile discs (CDs/DVDs) (but was in past)?
>     There's a fair bit of libera Internet Relay Chat (IRC) ##slackware
> buffoonery (even since days of freenode, but moreso) like one European
> chatter (not native English speaker) claiming Slackware isn't or never
> was commercial, because doesn't sell official technical support, when
> 'commercial' just refers to 'commerce', or buying & selling anything at
> all including CDs/DVDs (so Slackware at least was commercial for
> decades) or arguably even just software/code people download (from
> servers that have to be paid for) that many people pay Patrick
> Volkerding on paypal.com and patreon.com so he's actually making a
> modest salary for several/few years.  I'd still call this commercial,
> despite being paid in a new way people still receive something useful
> (despite intangible).  Patrick also sells t-shirts, etc. on
> cafepress.com, which is commercial, even though it's not CDs/DVDs. 
> Licenses also don't restrict others selling technical support, which
> several do linked on slackware.com.
>     At least one IRC chatter is (c)rude and attacks other chatters, but
> one runs an unofficial Slackware archive, and admitted he's a troll.

Perhaps you will be happier in life if you find something better to do 
with your time.

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#34675

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 05:00:34 +0000, David Chmelik wrote:
> Where could I lookup information about Slackware, Inc.? 

I would start att www.slackware.com

> I also suppose it's for-profit, even if no profit is being made from
> items such as compact/digital_versatile discs (CDs/DVDs) (but was in
> past)?

In the past it was possible to buy official Slackware installation media 
from the Slackware store, but even then, you could also download 
installation isos for free.

> Slackware isn't or never was commercial, because doesn't sell official
> technical support, when 'commercial' just refers to 'commerce', or
> buying & selling anything at all including CDs/DVDs (so Slackware at
> least was commercial for decades) or arguably even just software/code
> people download (from servers that have to be paid for) that many
> people pay Patrick Volkerding on paypal.com and patreon.com so he's
> actually making a modest salary for several/few years. I'd still call
> this commercial,

This depends upon your definition of commercial. It has allways been 
possible to download, install and upgrade Slackware for free and it has 
allways been possible to in different ways support Patrick who spends a 
full time maintaining Slackware.

regards Henrik

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#34676 — Re: Slackware, Inc.? Internet Relay Chat buffoonery

On 2/20/24 06:00, David Chmelik wrote:

<cut of pointless rant>

>      At least one IRC chatter is (c)rude and attacks other chatters, but
> one runs an unofficial Slackware archive, and admitted he's a troll.

Oh my God! A troll? On IRC! that's terrible, terrible news! This is the 
end for Slackware! ...Wait, I've found one too! Guess where! Oh shit, 
I've just fed him!

-- 
/

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#34692 — Re: Slackware, Inc.? Internet Relay Chat buffoonery

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:34:18 +0100, slash wrote:
> Oh my God! A troll? On IRC! that's terrible, terrible news! This is the
> end for Slackware! ...Wait, I've found one too! Guess where! Oh shit,
> I've just fed him!

You're why Patrick Volkerding left this newsgroup.

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#35628 — Re: [...] Internet Relay Chat buffoonery

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:34:18 +0100, slash wrote:
> On 2/20/24 06:00, David Chmelik wrote:
> [...] At least one IRC chatter is (c)rude and attacks other chatters,
>> but one runs an unofficial Slackware archive, and admitted he's a
>> troll.
> 
> Oh my God! A troll? On IRC! that's terrible, terrible news! This is the
> end for Slackware! ...Wait, I've found one too! Guess where! Oh shit,
> I've just fed him!

I won't feed their egos by naming, but on official Slackware forum (on 
LinuxQuestions.org (LQ)) he got heavily into a (c)rude flamewar with other 
posters and was warned and the thread was locked.  He broke LQ rules about 
badwords and personal attacks (it's an all-ages site) so it turns out 
everyone can see I was correct.  I've never done that, because manners/
politeness is a key/major part of my culture.  Please don't assume that 
people mentioning trolls are trolls themselves--they often aren't.

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#35629 — Re: [...] Internet Relay Chat buffoonery

On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:00:02 +0000, David Chmelik wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:34:18 +0100, slash wrote:
>> On 2/20/24 06:00, David Chmelik wrote:
>> [...] At least one IRC chatter is (c)rude and attacks other chatters,
>>> but one runs an unofficial Slackware archive, and admitted he's a
>>> troll.
>> 
>> Oh my God! A troll? On IRC! that's terrible, terrible news! This is the
>> end for Slackware! ...Wait, I've found one too! Guess where! Oh shit,
>> I've just fed him!
> 
> I won't feed their egos by naming, but on official Slackware forum (on
> LinuxQuestions.org (LQ)) he got heavily into a (c)rude flamewar with
> other posters and was warned and the thread was locked.  He broke LQ
> rules about badwords and personal attacks (it's an all-ages site) so it
> turns out everyone can see I was correct.  I've never done that, because
> manners/ politeness is a key/major part of my culture.  Please don't
> assume that people mentioning trolls are trolls themselves--they often
> aren't.

but people trolling about trolls from a thread thats 2 and a half years 
old, is for sure a troll, oh your a eternal september poster... 
say..no..more..

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#35676 — Re: [...] Internet Relay Chat buffoonery

On 21 Jun 2026 12:56:42 +1000, noel wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:00:02 +0000, David Chmelik wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:34:18 +0100, slash wrote:
>>> On 2/20/24 06:00, David Chmelik wrote:
>>> [...] At least one IRC chatter is (c)rude and attacks other chatters,
>>>> but one runs an unofficial Slackware archive, and admitted he's a
>>>> troll.
>>> 
>>> Oh my God! A troll? On IRC! that's terrible, terrible news! This is
>>> the end for Slackware! ...Wait, I've found one too! Guess where! Oh
>>> shit, I've just fed him!
>> 
>> I won't feed their egos by naming, but on official Slackware forum (on
>> LinuxQuestions.org (LQ)) he got heavily into a (c)rude flamewar with
>> other posters and was warned and the thread was locked.  He broke LQ
>> rules about badwords and personal attacks (it's an all-ages site) so it
>> turns out everyone can see I was correct.  I've never done that,
>> because manners/ politeness is a key/major part of my culture.  Please
>> don't assume that people mentioning trolls are trolls themselves--they
>> often aren't.
> 
> but people trolling about trolls from a thread thats 2 and a half years
> old, is for sure a troll, oh your a eternal september poster...
> say..no..more..

"[...] You're an [...]", "that's", 'September', and you have some comma 
splices.  It's my thread (I reply to as many years/decades as I want) and 
that's not what I'm doing.  I used Internet before September 1993.  People 
who discuss in Slackware areas may want to know about trolls.  You say  
nothing of value, so I recommend don't reply to this thread.

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#35678 — Re: [...] Internet Relay Chat buffoonery

On Fri, 03 Jul 2026 04:03:49 +0000, David Chmelik wrote:

> On 21 Jun 2026 12:56:42 +1000, noel wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2026 23:00:02 +0000, David Chmelik wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:34:18 +0100, slash wrote:
>>>> On 2/20/24 06:00, David Chmelik wrote:
>>>> [...] At least one IRC chatter is (c)rude and attacks other chatters,
>>>>> but one runs an unofficial Slackware archive, and admitted he's a
>>>>> troll.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh my God! A troll? On IRC! that's terrible, terrible news! This is
>>>> the end for Slackware! ...Wait, I've found one too! Guess where! Oh
>>>> shit, I've just fed him!
>>> 
>>> I won't feed their egos by naming, but on official Slackware forum (on
>>> LinuxQuestions.org (LQ)) he got heavily into a (c)rude flamewar with
>>> other posters and was warned and the thread was locked.  He broke LQ
>>> rules about badwords and personal attacks (it's an all-ages site) so
>>> it turns out everyone can see I was correct.  I've never done that,
>>> because manners/ politeness is a key/major part of my culture.  Please
>>> don't assume that people mentioning trolls are trolls themselves--they
>>> often aren't.
>> 
>> but people trolling about trolls from a thread thats 2 and a half years
>> old, is for sure a troll, oh your a eternal september poster...
>> say..no..more..
> 
> "[...] You're an [...]", "that's", 'September', and you have some comma
> splices.  It's my thread (I reply to as many years/decades as I want)
> and that's not what I'm doing.  I used Internet before September 1993. 
> People who discuss in Slackware areas may want to know about trolls. 
> You say nothing of value, so I recommend don't reply to this thread.

nah i dont care if it is your thread dickhead, if you troll threads from 
years earlier, your a troll, and yes i too used internet before then, 
back when compuserv was ripping us off at 12 bux an hour on 2400bps coz 
that was latest and greatest, doesnt mean you get any special treatment, 
just means you, like I, are crank old bastards.

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