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How many kernels in 64 bit Slack 15 release?

Started byMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
First post2026-06-08 02:06 -0300
Last post2026-06-11 19:10 +0000
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  How many kernels in 64 bit Slack 15 release? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-06-08 02:06 -0300
    Re: How many kernels in 64 bit Slack 15 release? Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2026-06-08 05:21 +0000
      Re: How many kernels in 64 bit Slack 15 release? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2026-06-08 02:59 -0300
      Re: How many kernels in 64 bit Slack 15 release? Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-06-08 10:31 +0200
      Re: How many kernels in 64 bit Slack 15 release? Joseph Rosevear <Mail@JoesLife.org> - 2026-06-11 19:10 +0000

#35619 — How many kernels in 64 bit Slack 15 release?

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2026-06-08 02:06 -0300
SubjectHow many kernels in 64 bit Slack 15 release?
Message-ID<87v7btlixd.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere>
I downloaded the Slackware 15 releases (32 & 64 bit) 3 years ago,
burned both to bootable DVDs, installed the 32 bit version.

Now I'm about to install the 64 bit version.  

Slackware Linux CD-ROM Installation HOWTO,  v15.0, 2022-02-02
says:

    These are the kernels shipped in Slackware:
       hugesmp.s
       gensmp.s
       huge.s
       generic.s 
       speakup.s 

but on the DVD, the /kernels/ directory has only

       huge.s

Is this the way it's supposed to be?  Just an oversight that the list
quoted above from the HOWTO wasn't changed?

The 32 bit DVD includes hugesmp, huge, generic, & generic-smp.
Are any differences between  these obsolete with 64 bits?

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#35620

FromHenrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com>
Date2026-06-08 05:21 +0000
Message-ID<1105jgu$307gl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35619
On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 02:06:54 -0300, Mike Spencer wrote:
> Slackware Linux CD-ROM Installation HOWTO,  v15.0, 2022-02-02 says:
> 
>     These are the kernels shipped in Slackware:
>        hugesmp.s gensmp.s huge.s generic.s speakup.s
> 
> but on the DVD, the /kernels/ directory has only
> 
>        huge.s

The speakup.s is no more, it is no longer included in 32-bit or 64-bit 
Slackware.

All the 64 bit kernels are smp capable as basically all modern CPUs these 
days have multiple cores.

Even though not as a choice during the installation process, slackware64 
also contains packages with a generic kernel intended to be booted 
together with an initrd. I prefer to boot my systems without any initrd, 
using the huge kernel myself. 

Once you have installed Slackware 15.0 you probably want to apply the 
security updates from the /patches directory and those updates includes a 
newer kernel. 

Whenever a kernel package is upgraded in Slackware 15.0, some manual work 
is needed to update your bootloader and the complexity of that work 
decreases with a huge kernel, one thing less that can go wrong if you 
don't need an initrd to boot.

regards Henrik

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#35621

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2026-06-08 02:59 -0300
Message-ID<87qzmhlghp.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#35620
Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> writes:

> On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 02:06:54 -0300, Mike Spencer wrote:
>> Slackware Linux CD-ROM Installation HOWTO,  v15.0, 2022-02-02 says:
>> 
>>     These are the kernels shipped in Slackware:
>>        hugesmp.s gensmp.s huge.s generic.s speakup.s
>> 
>> but on the DVD, the /kernels/ directory has only
>> 
>>        huge.s
> 
> The speakup.s is no more, it is no longer included in 32-bit or 64-bit 
> Slackware.

Yes, there was a note to that effect.

> All the 64 bit kernels are smp capable as basically all modern CPUs these 
> days have multiple cores.
> 
> Even though not as a choice during the installation process, slackware64 
> also contains packages with a generic kernel intended to be booted 
> together with an initrd. I prefer to boot my systems without any initrd, 
> using the huge kernel myself. 
> 
> Once you have installed Slackware 15.0 you probably want to apply the 
> security updates from the /patches directory and those updates includes a 
> newer kernel. 
> 
> Whenever a kernel package is upgraded in Slackware 15.0, some manual work 
> is needed to update your bootloader and the complexity of that work 
> decreases with a huge kernel, one thing less that can go wrong if you 
> don't need an initrd to boot.

So, an oversight, text should have been changed for the 64 bit ISO.

Thanks for the update.  Filed for reference.

(Henrik's full text left for the record)


-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#35622

FromMarco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de>
Date2026-06-08 10:31 +0200
Message-ID<1105uk9$idsn$1@solani.org>
In reply to#35620
Am 08.06.26 um 07:21 schrieb Henrik Carlqvist:
> Whenever a kernel package is upgraded in Slackware 15.0, some manual work
> is needed to update your bootloader and the complexity of that work
> decreases with a huge kernel, one thing less that can go wrong if you
> don't need an initrd to boot.

When using LILO, this is being triggered by slackpkg.
For GRUB, it isn't in 15, but in current.

-- 
Gruß
Marco

Spam bitte an abfalleimer2001@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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#35623

FromJoseph Rosevear <Mail@JoesLife.org>
Date2026-06-11 19:10 +0000
Message-ID<110f17o$1kfp0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#35620
On Mon, 8 Jun 2026 05:21:35 -0000 (UTC), Henrik Carlqvist wrote:

...

> Whenever a kernel package is upgraded in Slackware 15.0, some manual
> work is needed to update your bootloader and the complexity of that work
> decreases with a huge kernel, one thing less that can go wrong if you
> don't need an initrd to boot.

That sounds reasonable.  But I don't do it that way.  I run a modified 
Slackware 15.0 system from a bootable flash drive.  I'm not saying that 
you should do what I do.  It is, after all, a lot of trouble.  And for 
what?  I have a system on bootable flash drive.  I can take it with me.  
It is (mostly) independent from my hardware.  It's fun.  Those are my 
reasons for using the generic kernel plus an initrd.gz.  I also use an 
fstab file that references devices by LABEL and a Grub boot loader that 
does the same.

And besides the trouble, it is antithetical to the foundations of 
Slackware - it is not KISS!

I just wanted to share ;)

-Joe

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