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Re: TeXLive on Slackware

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In alt.os.linux.slackware H.Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Apr 2016 23:12:58 +0000, JohnF wrote:
>>>> Slackware has stuck with teTeX because tl is too "heavy". While it's
>>>> easy enough to run install-tl and manually choose components, it
>>>> would be nice to have a maintained install-tl-lite script so that the
>>>> Slackware team could easily package tl with their linux distribution.
>>>> I'd guess they'd want something in the ~250MB size (that's about what
>>>> their teTeX uses).
> 
> On my Slackware 13.1 system teTex takes about 150 MB:
> fgrep UNCOMPRE /var/log/packages/tetex-3.0-x86_64-8 
> UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     158940K

du -sc /usr/share/texmf/ shows 250468 on my 14.1x32.
fgrep UNCOMPRE /var/log/packages/tetex-3.0-i486-8       152M
fgrep UNCOMPRE /var/log/packages/tetex-doc-3.0-i486-8    91M

> But what would be the point in replacing teTex with a stripped down 
> TeXLive? I think that a full featured TeXLive would be useful as a 
> Slackbuild script (searching at Slackbuilds.org you will find such 
> scripts pointing to versions of TeXLive which are some months newer than 
> their Slackware releases) or maybe even on an extra DVD shipped with 
> Slackware.
> 
> But trying to strip down TeXLive would probably only end up in a number 
> of threads in places like this where people also request feature ABC and 
> XYZ from TeXLive which now is missing. I mean, if I understand you right, 
> the whole point in replacing teTeX with TeXLive would be because TeXLive 
> has features that teTeX is missing. Then why would you want a TeXLive 
> with missing features? I am sure that you would be able to pick the most 
> important features for you, but there are many different users out there 
> and different users have different tastes when it comes to what is 
> important.  regards Henrik

tl (TeXLive) has way more features/baggage (I wouldn't call it bloat)
than most people need. The foreign language support alone is several GB.
Ditto the astronomical collection of fonts. There's some kind of 80/20,
or even 90/10, rule here -- 10% of tl contains everything 90% of people
ever need. But teTeX maintenance ended in 2006. And some packages
like tikz have been created since then and are very widely used now.
The install-tl script, which is the front-end installation tool
that comes with tl, already lets you pick and choose which components
to install, but you have to know what you're doing. I'm not sure
why there's no automatic subset of components corresponding to
a "tl lite". That's what slackware needs.
-- 
John Forkosh  ( mailto:  j@f.com  where j=john and f=forkosh )

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TeXLive on Slackware (was: Re: Thank you, Eberhard Mattes!) JohnF <john@please.see.sig.for.email.com> - 2016-04-08 23:12 +0000
  Re: TeXLive on Slackware (was: Re: Thank you, Eberhard Mattes!) Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2016-04-11 05:03 +0000
    Re: TeXLive on Slackware John Forkosh <forkosh@panix.com> - 2016-04-11 07:11 +0000
      Re: TeXLive on Slackware Joost Kremers <joost.m.kremers@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 08:59 +0000
        Re: TeXLive on Slackware jfbu <jfREMOVEbu@free.fr> - 2016-04-11 11:41 +0200
          Re: TeXLive on Slackware JohnF <john@please.see.sig.for.email.com> - 2016-04-13 02:20 +0000
      Re: TeXLive on Slackware Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2016-04-11 21:07 +0000
    Re: TeXLive on Slackware (was: Re: Thank you, Eberhard Mattes!) Joost Kremers <joost.m.kremers@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 08:54 +0000
      Re: TeXLive on Slackware (was: Re: Thank you, Eberhard Mattes!) Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2016-04-11 21:12 +0000
        Re: TeXLive on Slackware Qun-Ying <zhu.qunying@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 11:13 -0700
          Re: TeXLive on Slackware Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2016-04-13 18:39 +0000

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