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| Started by | David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> |
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| First post | 2024-04-15 18:20 -0500 |
| Last post | 2024-10-26 21:28 +0000 |
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alt.obituaries necrology David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> - 2024-04-15 18:20 -0500
Re: alt.obituaries necrology mig73allenford2002@yahoo.co.uk (Mig.Rhodes) - 2024-04-16 08:42 +0000
Re: alt.obituaries necrology David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> - 2024-04-16 07:51 -0500
Re: alt.obituaries necrology Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> - 2024-04-16 16:34 +0000
Re: alt.obituaries necrology Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> - 2024-04-18 16:41 +0000
Re: alt.obituaries necrology David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> - 2024-04-18 12:18 -0500
Re: alt.obituaries necrology David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> - 2024-04-18 12:22 -0500
Re: alt.obituaries necrology David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> - 2024-04-22 09:37 -0500
Re: alt.obituaries necrology David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> - 2024-05-01 21:08 -0500
Re: alt.obituaries necrology Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> - 2024-06-11 08:01 +0000
Re: alt.obituaries necrology Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> - 2024-10-08 08:04 +0000
Re: alt.obituaries necrology David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> - 2024-10-13 18:05 -0500
Re: alt.obituaries necrology Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> - 2024-12-02 07:32 +0000
Re: alt.obituaries necrology Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> - 2024-12-21 21:29 +0000
Re: alt.obituaries necrology Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> - 2024-12-21 21:39 +0000
Re: alt.obituaries necrology jsnsmith565@gmail.com (Jason) - 2024-10-14 17:10 +0000
Re: alt.obituaries necrology Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> - 2024-10-26 21:28 +0000
| From | David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> |
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| Date | 2024-04-15 18:20 -0500 |
| Subject | alt.obituaries necrology |
| Message-ID | <uvkcnn$hs10$1@dont-email.me> |
Below is my first draft at a list of alt.obituaries posters who have died. J.D. Baldwin helped me work on it. 2024 Erik Lander, 59 or 60 2024 Joe Pucillo 2022 Mark W. Bickford, 65 2022 Darrell G. Waddell, 59 2022 Amelia Rosner, 69 2021 John W. Gilmer, 65 2020 Michael O'connor, 54 2017 Daevid MacKenzie 2015 Dean G. Huffman 2010 Bill Cmelak, 57 2002 Roy Archer Additions and corrections are welcome. There should be some certainty that the person has actually died, not just "they haven't been heard from in ages." There are a couple of people I did not list who I am strongly suspicious about, but have no actual evidence for. (The only person above whose death is not documented is Roy Archer, but there are multiple specific reasons for including him that surpass mere absence from the group.) I have exact dates of death for many, but intend to only use years. I've used initials when the subject normally used them. For example, Gilmer used "jwgilmer" as one of his aliases, Huffman used "DGH," etc. O'connor (lowercase c) used his middle initial initally, but ceased using it after a while. I wish to avoid using screen names. Many of the people above used them, but the only one whose real name was not *very* common knowledge was Cmelak, who went by "Hoodoo" and "Shrike!" (If there end up being more people like him, I'm open to doing as needs must.) Is it better sorted this way, or oldest-to-newest? David Carson -- Dead or Alive Data Base http://www.doadb.com
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| From | mig73allenford2002@yahoo.co.uk (Mig.Rhodes) |
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| Date | 2024-04-16 08:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <50c7cad66e894885096996b53910883f@www.novabbs.org> |
| In reply to | #227481 |
Do I recall an 'Old Curmudgeon' in the early noughties? Who is or was he or she?
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| From | David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> |
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| Date | 2024-04-16 07:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <uvls87$us1s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #227483 |
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 08:42:54 +0000, mig73allenford2002@yahoo.co.uk (Mig.Rhodes) wrote: >Do I recall an 'Old Curmudgeon' in the early noughties? Who is or was he or she? That was Roy Archer. He used Old Curmudgeon in his headers, but he put his real name at the bottom of his posts. David Carson -- Dead or Alive Data Base http://www.doadb.com
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| From | Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> |
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| Date | 2024-04-16 16:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uvm9bb$d55$4@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #227481 |
Not sure how much of a habitue hereof someone needs to be to qualify,but I think I recall the death of Armand "Sacredcowboys" Du Pont being noted...he had taken over the Death Game from "ggghostie" (Kihm Winship) and promptly expelled me,then later suggested that I join having no apparent recollection of his angry and baseless ouster. -=-=- The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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| From | Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> |
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| Date | 2024-04-18 16:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <uvrig8$qks$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #227481 |
David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote: > Below is my first draft at a list of alt.obituaries posters who have died. > J.D. Baldwin helped me work on it. > > 2024 Erik Lander, 59 or 60 > 2024 Joe Pucillo > 2022 Mark W. Bickford, 65 > 2022 Darrell G. Waddell, 59 > 2022 Amelia Rosner, 69 > 2021 John W. Gilmer, 65 > 2020 Michael O'connor, 54 > 2017 Daevid MacKenzie > 2015 Dean G. Huffman > 2010 Bill Cmelak, 57 > 2002 Roy Archer > > Additions and corrections are welcome. There should be some certainty that > the person has actually died, not just "they haven't been heard from in > ages." There are a couple of people I did not list who I am strongly > suspicious about, but have no actual evidence for. (The only person above > whose death is not documented is Roy Archer, but there are multiple > specific reasons for including him that surpass mere absence from the > group.) Perhaps there should be a "limbology" for the not-heard-from-in-ages"? I am curious as to the fate of Roy Lieberman. Other people who've moved on from posting may be verified as alive by other means (cf. Jim Beaver) but if we don't know a fate, there could be a list of those for whom to keep a lookout on news. > I have exact dates of death for many, but intend to only use years. I've > used initials when the subject normally used them. For example, Gilmer > used "jwgilmer" as one of his aliases, Huffman used "DGH," etc. O'connor > (lowercase c) used his middle initial initally, but ceased using it after > a while. > > I wish to avoid using screen names. Many of the people above used them, > but the only one whose real name was not *very* common knowledge was > Cmelak, who went by "Hoodoo" and "Shrike!" (If there end up being more > people like him, I'm open to doing as needs must.) > > Is it better sorted this way, or oldest-to-newest? I think chronological order is better than reverse. -=-=- The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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| From | David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> |
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| Date | 2024-04-18 12:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <uvrkl7$2c8qh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #227514 |
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:41:44 -0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: >I am curious as to the fate of Roy Lieberman. I don't remember how long ago this was, but I posted a he's-not-dead notice about him that last time I heard from him. It was long after his departure. David Carson -- Dead or Alive Data Base http://www.doadb.com
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| From | David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> |
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| Date | 2024-04-18 12:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <uvrktq$2cbjg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #227514 |
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 16:41:44 -0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: >David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote: >> Is it better sorted this way, or oldest-to-newest? > >I think chronological order is better than reverse. That was how I made it out originally, but then I thought that a list that will always and forever begin with the same person is less interesting than one that begins with a different person most of the time. David Carson -- Dead or Alive Data Base http://www.doadb.com
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| From | David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> |
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| Date | 2024-04-22 09:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <kasc2jtak9i8m8ocpj1h95sb33sk6sl5g4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #227481 |
I've gotten a couple of additions via e-mail. Any other additions can be submitted via e-mail or here. Please include a link to an obituary, Facebook post, announcement in this newsgroup, Find-a-Grave bio, or some other information that supports your assertion that the person died. A date or year of death and an age are requested. If the person mainly used screen names and his or her real name was not general knowledge, I'm leaning toward not including them. (If they wanted anonymity, they get anonymity.) David Carson -- Dead or Alive Data Base http://www.doadb.com
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| From | David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> |
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| Date | 2024-05-01 21:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <v0usi6$3jtf4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #227481 |
Here is the updated list of alt.obituaries posters whose deaths have been announced. Once again, J. D. Baldwin supplied or passed along much of this information: 2024 Erik Lander, 59 or 60 2024 Joe Pucillo 2022 Mark W. Bickford, 65 2022 Darrell G. Waddell, 59 2022 Amelia Rosner, 69 2021 John W. Gilmer, 65 2020 Michael O'connor, 54 2019 David Uri, 65 2017 Daevid MacKenzie 2015 Dean G. Huffman 2010 Bill Cmelak, 57 2004 Heinz Wiggeshoff, 55 2002 Roy Archer David Carson -- Dead or Alive Data Base http://www.doadb.com
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| From | Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> |
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| Date | 2024-06-11 08:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <v49092$58j$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #227659 |
David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote: > Here is the updated list of alt.obituaries posters whose deaths have been > announced. Once again, J. D. Baldwin supplied or passed along much of this > information: > > 2024 Erik Lander, 59 or 60 > 2024 Joe Pucillo > 2022 Mark W. Bickford, 65 > 2022 Darrell G. Waddell, 59 > 2022 Amelia Rosner, 69 > 2021 John W. Gilmer, 65 > 2020 Michael O'connor, 54 > 2019 David Uri, 65 > 2017 Daevid MacKenzie > 2015 Dean G. Huffman > 2010 Bill Cmelak, 57 > 2004 Heinz Wiggeshoff, 55 > 2002 Roy Archer I am not positive that the Armand A. Dupont who died in 2013 some weeks short of 64 was the cantankerous Sacredcowboys@aol.com; the former ggghostie@earthlink who turned the Death Game's gazette over to SC appears to be still with us at faithfulreaders.com. -=-=- The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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| From | Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> |
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| Date | 2024-10-08 08:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ve2p26$7hu$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #228119 |
Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: > David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote: >> Here is the updated list of alt.obituaries posters whose deaths have been >> announced. Once again, J. D. Baldwin supplied or passed along much of this >> information: >> >> 2024 Erik Lander, 59 or 60 >> 2024 Joe Pucillo >> 2022 Mark W. Bickford, 65 >> 2022 Darrell G. Waddell, 59 >> 2022 Amelia Rosner, 69 >> 2021 John W. Gilmer, 65 >> 2020 Michael O'connor, 54 >> 2019 David Uri, 65 >> 2017 Daevid MacKenzie >> 2015 Dean G. Huffman >> 2010 Bill Cmelak, 57 >> 2004 Heinz Wiggeshoff, 55 >> 2002 Roy Archer Looking at these again I am struck by the fairly narrow age range. Are people within a certain demographic band most likely to be into obituaries,or most at risk from doing so? > I am not positive that the Armand A. Dupont > who died in 2013 some weeks short of 64 was > the cantankerous Sacredcowboys@aol.com; > the former ggghostie@earthlink who turned > the Death Game's gazette over to SC appears > to be still with us at faithfulreaders.com. > > -=-=- > The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, > at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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| From | David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> |
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| Date | 2024-10-13 18:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vehjna$s4jb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #229512 |
On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 08:04:22 -0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: >Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: >> David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote: >>> Here is the updated list of alt.obituaries posters whose deaths have been >>> announced. Once again, J. D. Baldwin supplied or passed along much of this >>> information: >>> >>> 2024 Erik Lander, 59 or 60 >>> 2024 Joe Pucillo >>> 2022 Mark W. Bickford, 65 >>> 2022 Darrell G. Waddell, 59 >>> 2022 Amelia Rosner, 69 >>> 2021 John W. Gilmer, 65 >>> 2020 Michael O'connor, 54 >>> 2019 David Uri, 65 >>> 2017 Daevid MacKenzie >>> 2015 Dean G. Huffman >>> 2010 Bill Cmelak, 57 >>> 2004 Heinz Wiggeshoff, 55 >>> 2002 Roy Archer > >Looking at these again I am struck by the >fairly narrow age range. >Are people within a certain demographic band >most likely to be into obituaries,or most at >risk from doing so? I'd bet its a common Usenet demographic, not particular to alt.obituaries. David Carson
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| From | Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> |
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| Date | 2024-12-02 07:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vijnpn$7cd$1@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #229569 |
David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 08:04:22 -0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> > wrote: > >>Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: >>> David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote: >>>> Here is the updated list of alt.obituaries posters whose deaths have been >>>> announced. Once again, J. D. Baldwin supplied or passed along much of this >>>> information: >>>> >>>> 2024 Erik Lander, 59 or 60 I am ever reminded (even as my family real estate operation has been straightening out a back tax issue with his employers, as I couldn't afford to file returns for years given our losses) of his saying,in response to someone's association of him with diapers,that he had never found any large enough for him to wear, and my pointing him to a website where one could buy diapers with up to a 110 inch waist,and his non-response...I have long imagined him as enormously obese but have no idea if he really was. >>>> 2024 Joe Pucillo >>>> 2022 Mark W. Bickford, 65 >>>> 2022 Darrell G. Waddell, 59 >>>> 2022 Amelia Rosner, 69 >>>> 2021 John W. Gilmer, 65 >>>> 2020 Michael O'connor, 54 >>>> 2019 David Uri, 65 >>>> 2017 Daevid MacKenzie >>>> 2015 Dean G. Huffman >>>> 2010 Bill Cmelak, 57 >>>> 2004 Heinz Wiggeshoff, 55 >>>> 2002 Roy Archer >> >>Looking at these again I am struck by the >>fairly narrow age range. >>Are people within a certain demographic band >>most likely to be into obituaries,or most at >>risk from doing so? > > I'd bet its a common Usenet demographic, not particular to alt.obituaries. > > David Carson
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| From | Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 21:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vk7c00$6no$1@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #229512 |
Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: > Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: >> David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote: >>> Here is the updated list of alt.obituaries posters whose deaths have been >>> announced. Once again, J. D. Baldwin supplied or passed along much of this >>> information: >>> >>> 2024 Erik Lander, 59 or 60 >>> 2024 Joe Pucillo >>> 2022 Mark W. Bickford, 65 >>> 2022 Darrell G. Waddell, 59 >>> 2022 Amelia Rosner, 69 >>> 2021 John W. Gilmer, 65 >>> 2020 Michael O'connor, 54 >>> 2019 David Uri, 65 >>> 2017 Daevid MacKenzie >>> 2015 Dean G. Huffman >>> 2010 Bill Cmelak, 57 >>> 2004 Heinz Wiggeshoff, 55 >>> 2002 Roy Archer > > Looking at these again I am struck by the > fairly narrow age range. > Are people within a certain demographic band > most likely to be into obituaries,or most at > risk from doing so? I note that an email I sent to madcow57@aol.com (otherwise known as Dolores) has bounced because the mailbox is disabled...I hope she is neither disabled nor deceased,she has been on my WTC email list for long years since her years here. >> I am not positive that the Armand A. Dupont >> who died in 2013 some weeks short of 64 was >> the cantankerous Sacredcowboys@aol.com; >> the former ggghostie@earthlink who turned >> the Death Game's gazette over to SC appears >> to be still with us at faithfulreaders.com. >> >> -=-=- >> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, >> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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| From | Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> |
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| Date | 2024-12-21 21:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vk7cja$ois$2@reader2.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #230131 |
Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: > Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: >> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote: >>> David Carson <davidc@wa-wd.com> wrote: >>>> Here is the updated list of alt.obituaries posters whose deaths have been >>>> announced. Once again, J. D. Baldwin supplied or passed along much of this >>>> information: >>>> >>>> 2024 Erik Lander, 59 or 60 >>>> 2024 Joe Pucillo >>>> 2022 Mark W. Bickford, 65 >>>> 2022 Darrell G. Waddell, 59 >>>> 2022 Amelia Rosner, 69 >>>> 2021 John W. Gilmer, 65 >>>> 2020 Michael O'connor, 54 >>>> 2019 David Uri, 65 >>>> 2017 Daevid MacKenzie >>>> 2015 Dean G. Huffman >>>> 2010 Bill Cmelak, 57 >>>> 2004 Heinz Wiggeshoff, 55 >>>> 2002 Roy Archer >> >> Looking at these again I am struck by the >> fairly narrow age range. >> Are people within a certain demographic band >> most likely to be into obituaries,or most at >> risk from doing so? > > I note that an email I sent to madcow57@aol.com > (otherwise known as Dolores) has bounced because > the mailbox is disabled...I hope she is neither > disabled nor deceased,she has been on my WTC > email list for long years since her years here. A little research shows a recent sale listing for her boat slip with a power of attorney as contact, so she may indeed be disabled,though not deceased. >>> I am not positive that the Armand A. Dupont >>> who died in 2013 some weeks short of 64 was >>> the cantankerous Sacredcowboys@aol.com; >>> the former ggghostie@earthlink who turned >>> the Death Game's gazette over to SC appears >>> to be still with us at faithfulreaders.com. >>> >>> -=-=- >>> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, >>> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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| From | jsnsmith565@gmail.com (Jason) |
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| Date | 2024-10-14 17:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <316ce6b51a8d85c0655f47f5e43bf273@www.novabbs.com> |
| In reply to | #227659 |
"King" (not sure whether that's actually part of his name, or whether he just at some point decided to crown himself) Daevid MacKenzie's Facebook page shows date of birth as Feb 9, 1961, so age 56 at death.
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| From | Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> |
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| Date | 2024-10-26 21:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vfjmt9$rs9$2@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #229575 |
Jason <jsnsmith565@gmail.com> wrote: > "King" (not sure whether that's actually part of his name, or whether he > just at some point decided to crown himself) Daevid MacKenzie's Facebook > page shows date of birth as Feb 9, 1961, so age 56 at death. So born the day after me! -=-=- The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
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