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| Started by | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| First post | 2021-11-01 13:52 -0400 |
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Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-01 13:52 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-01 21:40 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-01 19:27 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-02 05:19 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-01 17:38 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2021-11-02 00:21 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 19:09 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-02 00:11 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-02 06:17 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-11-02 10:16 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 00:27 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-03 07:26 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-03 19:58 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 21:34 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 09:51 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-11-04 15:37 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:13 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-04 15:22 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:22 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 12:05 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-05 08:20 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 10:02 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:26 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-04 15:25 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-04 19:10 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-04 21:43 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-05 08:53 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 11:38 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 13:30 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-05 18:23 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 19:37 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Churchillian version John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-05 20:02 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:14 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:26 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 14:47 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 17:40 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:17 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 21:50 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-06 19:07 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-06 11:31 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-06 15:14 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-06 16:45 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-11-05 22:43 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:05 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:19 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 20:13 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 11:40 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-05 14:09 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:53 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 17:40 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 19:18 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 20:04 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 23:52 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-06 05:13 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:16 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> - 2021-11-04 07:17 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-04 15:47 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 20:34 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-m46-this> - 2021-11-05 07:08 -0800
Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-07 15:43 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 16:17 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:19 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 22:18 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-11-04 19:21 -0300
Re: Who Knew ? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2021-11-05 05:46 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-11-05 04:01 -0300
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:27 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:29 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-04 15:12 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 21:02 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-11-04 00:01 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:09 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 13:49 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 10:11 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 10:16 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-04 17:31 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-04 13:04 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 14:58 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-04 17:47 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:07 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 14:42 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-04 17:53 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 13:33 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-05 10:06 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2021-11-06 15:38 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:39 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 19:33 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 12:17 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 14:45 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 15:28 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 18:52 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 08:54 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 10:07 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-06 08:26 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 22:05 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:04 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 18:32 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-06 19:25 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-07 11:20 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 08:55 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 10:15 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-07 23:44 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-08 15:39 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-11-08 17:06 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom (Lawrence Statton (NK1G)) - 2021-11-09 19:06 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 09:51 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-08 10:52 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-08 19:14 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-08 12:09 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-08 22:38 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-09 15:30 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 14:57 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-11 15:03 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-11 17:02 -1000
Re: Alternate Who Knew ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-08 22:22 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 18:07 -0500
Re: military options, was Who Knew ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-09 01:58 +0000
Re: military options, was Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 23:17 -0500
Re: military options, was Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-09 10:02 -0500
Re: military options, was Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-08 22:51 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-08 22:35 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 09:09 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-11-14 18:45 +0100
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 12:39 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-15 00:43 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-16 08:58 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-16 16:57 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 10:54 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-17 14:16 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 14:32 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 05:01 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 13:48 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-04 15:46 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-11-04 15:26 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-04 23:51 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:37 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-05 08:54 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-05 13:49 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:08 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-11-05 22:17 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 22:46 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <682250568.657845356.791644.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #219640 |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On Fri, 05 Nov 2021 17:17:21 -0400 > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >> One of the major benefits of a dictator is that one person with a >> rifle and a bit of luck can remove the dictator, unlike Congress which >> is like a hydra--cut off one head and it sprouts two more. > > Hmm maybe there's an approach. So we have a dictator with absolute > power except that they are not permitted any form of personal protection, > replacements selected by reality TV as needed. > No thanks! We had one would-be dictator selected by reality TV, and look how that turned out. -- Pete
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| From | Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-06 19:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsodkio.bau.Greymaus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #219646 |
On 2021-11-05, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: > Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >> On Fri, 05 Nov 2021 17:17:21 -0400 >> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> One of the major benefits of a dictator is that one person with a >>> rifle and a bit of luck can remove the dictator, unlike Congress which >>> is like a hydra--cut off one head and it sprouts two more. >> >> Hmm maybe there's an approach. So we have a dictator with absolute >> power except that they are not permitted any form of personal protection, >> replacements selected by reality TV as needed. >> > > No thanks! We had one would-be dictator selected by reality TV, and look > how that turned out. > The opera ain't over until the fat man's second song. -- greymausg@mail.com That's not a mousehole!
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-06 11:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sm5p30$esb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #219640 |
On 05/11/2021 21:50, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Fri, 05 Nov 2021 17:17:21 -0400 > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >> One of the major benefits of a dictator is that one person with a >> rifle and a bit of luck can remove the dictator, unlike Congress which >> is like a hydra--cut off one head and it sprouts two more. > > Hmm maybe there's an approach. So we have a dictator with absolute > power except that they are not permitted any form of personal protection, > replacements selected by reality TV as needed. > I have no doubt that those who are in line for the monarchy up to the nth degree know about it, which would mean that there is no shortage of replacements should the current incumbent / encumbrance die off. Therefore, there is no need for its personal protection and no problem were all the members of that family to be in a helicopter ride at the same time.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-06 15:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20211106151438.a53bda12e0fd1065d47eb7f3@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #219655 |
On Sat, 6 Nov 2021 11:31:39 +0000 gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: > I have no doubt that those who are in line for the monarchy up to > the nth degree know about it The prisoners of Windsor are not a dictatorship. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-06 16:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sm6bfh$k05$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #219657 |
On 06/11/2021 15:14, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Sat, 6 Nov 2021 11:31:39 +0000 > gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I have no doubt that those who are in line for the monarchy up to >> the nth degree know about it > > The prisoners of Windsor are not a dictatorship. > They are not prisoners, but are free to leave, as did Ginge And Whinge so recently.
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2051289140.657832687.446770.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #219601 |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 19:10:08 -0400 > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Or as we grow closer and closer to achieving actual democracy we see >> more and more why it's a bad idea. > > Democracy is great when an honestly informed and engaged population > chooses among a set of honest and dedicated politicians. > > It's a pity that there seems to be no cause so noble and correct > that it lacks supporters willing to lie to further it and in so doing > discredit it. Athenian democracy brought on the Peleponnesian War. It’s never been perfect. It is also a pity that most people are more interested in > sports, telly, booze, drugs, feuds and sex than how their country is run. It > is also a pity that many politicians seems to be more interested in feeding > at the public trough than serving the state. Just three things to fix to > get a perfect system. > > The optimal form of government is probably a benevolent > dictatorship, provided there is an endless supply of competent benevolent > dictators and the means to ensure that only such get to rule - I don't see > this as possible either. The Romans had a pretty good run of almost 200 years with this, but nothing lasts forever. > > What most people want from their government is that it lets them > get on with their lives with a minimum of visible interference - by this > criteria any government that indulges in war is an abject failure. > Except that the people often want war. Everyone went nuts when WWI started. -- Pete
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| From | Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 22:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsobct0.1rfm.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> |
| In reply to | #219567 |
On Thu, 2021-11-04, Quadibloc wrote: ... > Having only recently - some two million years ago - evolved from the > chimpanzee, it might not be too outrageous to suppose that a significant > proportion of the human race is not yet well-developed enough for civilized > life. I think few can cope well with /today's/ civilized life with smartphones, social media, instant gratification and impending doom -- your YouTube Bubble. Most could cope with civilized life 30 years ago, and almost everyone can cope with sustenance farming in a village (if that's all they know). IMO, the problem is not the people. A lot of basically decent people are acting crazy right now. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 11:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sm0epi$8se$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #219552 |
On 03/11/2021 19:58, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > For sure, both of those speak to deep rooted truths about human > nature - sad really. Just wait till we get sentient robots and reinvent > slavery. We never lost slavery. We just use poverty and debt, not chains. -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 17:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <SCUgJ.86381$831.51123@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #219557 |
On 2021-11-04, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 03/11/2021 19:58, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>
>> For sure, both of those speak to deep rooted truths about human
>> nature - sad really. Just wait till we get sentient robots and
>> reinvent slavery.
>
> We never lost slavery. We just use poverty and debt, not chains.
Yes, as through this world I've wandered
I've seen lots of funny men.
Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.
And as through your live you travel,
Yes, as through your life you roam,
You won't never see an outlaw
Drive a family from their home.
-- Woody Guthrie: Pretty Boy Floyd
--
/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Life is perverse.
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 20:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sm1esl$hde$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #219557 |
On 04/11/2021 11:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 03/11/2021 19:58, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: >> For sure, both of those speak to deep rooted truths about human >> nature - sad really. Just wait till we get sentient robots and reinvent >> slavery. > > We never lost slavery. We just use poverty and debt, not chains. > It is strange that the current wokery about removing the symbolism of slavery, pulling down statues or renaming educational establishments, continues to support the descendant spawn of the Norman invaders who subjugated our ancestors into the slavery of serfdom
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1369596098.657760149.054945.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #219580 |
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: > On 04/11/2021 11:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 03/11/2021 19:58, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: >>> For sure, both of those speak to deep rooted truths about human >>> nature - sad really. Just wait till we get sentient robots and reinvent >>> slavery. >> >> We never lost slavery. We just use poverty and debt, not chains. >> > > It is strange that the current wokery about removing the symbolism > of slavery, pulling down statues or renaming educational establishments, > continues to support the descendant spawn of the Norman invaders who > subjugated our ancestors into the slavery of serfdom > Your ancestors were probably already serfs. The Norman conquest swapped one ruling class for another. -- Pete
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s%ZgJ.10012$zF3.8088@fx03.iad> |
| In reply to | #219589 |
On 2021-11-04, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 04/11/2021 11:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/11/2021 19:58, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>
>>>> For sure, both of those speak to deep rooted truths about human
>>>> nature - sad really. Just wait till we get sentient robots and reinvent
>>>> slavery.
>>>
>>> We never lost slavery. We just use poverty and debt, not chains.
>>
>> It is strange that the current wokery about removing the symbolism
>> of slavery, pulling down statues or renaming educational establishments,
>> continues to support the descendant spawn of the Norman invaders who
>> subjugated our ancestors into the slavery of serfdom
>
> Your ancestors were probably already serfs. The Norman conquest swapped
> one ruling class for another.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
-- The Who
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/~\ Charlie Gibbs | Life is perverse.
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 11:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sm356s$ogn$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #219589 |
On 04/11/2021 23:11, Peter Flass wrote: > gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: >> On 04/11/2021 11:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 03/11/2021 19:58, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: >>>> For sure, both of those speak to deep rooted truths about human >>>> nature - sad really. Just wait till we get sentient robots and reinvent >>>> slavery. >>> >>> We never lost slavery. We just use poverty and debt, not chains. >>> >> >> It is strange that the current wokery about removing the symbolism >> of slavery, pulling down statues or renaming educational establishments, >> continues to support the descendant spawn of the Norman invaders who >> subjugated our ancestors into the slavery of serfdom >> > > Your ancestors were probably already serfs. The Norman conquest swapped one > ruling class for another. > Whether or not that is true, it remains that the current Great Parasite Of Windsor is founded upon slavery.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 14:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sm3dur$rh6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #219607 |
On 05/11/2021 11:40, gareth evans wrote: > On 04/11/2021 23:11, Peter Flass wrote: >> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> On 04/11/2021 11:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 03/11/2021 19:58, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: >>>>> For sure, both of those speak to deep rooted truths about human >>>>> nature - sad really. Just wait till we get sentient robots and >>>>> reinvent >>>>> slavery. >>>> >>>> We never lost slavery. We just use poverty and debt, not chains. >>>> >>> >>> It is strange that the current wokery about removing the symbolism >>> of slavery, pulling down statues or renaming educational establishments, >>> continues to support the descendant spawn of the Norman invaders who >>> subjugated our ancestors into the slavery of serfdom >>> >> >> Your ancestors were probably already serfs. The Norman conquest >> swapped one >> ruling class for another. >> > > Whether or not that is true, it remains that the current Great Parasite > Of Windsor is founded upon slavery. > Oh please. utterly irrelevant. FAR bigger parasites around. -- When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. Frédéric Bastiat
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 15:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sm3k16$a15$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #219609 |
On 05/11/2021 14:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 05/11/2021 11:40, gareth evans wrote: >> On 04/11/2021 23:11, Peter Flass wrote: >>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> On 04/11/2021 11:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> On 03/11/2021 19:58, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: >>>>>> For sure, both of those speak to deep rooted truths about human >>>>>> nature - sad really. Just wait till we get sentient robots and >>>>>> reinvent >>>>>> slavery. >>>>> >>>>> We never lost slavery. We just use poverty and debt, not chains. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It is strange that the current wokery about removing the symbolism >>>> of slavery, pulling down statues or renaming educational >>>> establishments, >>>> continues to support the descendant spawn of the Norman invaders who >>>> subjugated our ancestors into the slavery of serfdom >>>> >>> >>> Your ancestors were probably already serfs. The Norman conquest >>> swapped one >>> ruling class for another. >>> >> >> Whether or not that is true, it remains that the current Great >> Parasite Of Windsor is founded upon slavery. >> > Oh please. utterly irrelevant. FAR bigger parasites around. You deal with your parasites; i'll deal with mine.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 17:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <X%dhJ.1367$SW5.795@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #219609 |
On 2021-11-05, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 05/11/2021 11:40, gareth evans wrote: > >> On 04/11/2021 23:11, Peter Flass wrote: >> >>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It is strange that the current wokery about removing the symbolism >>>> of slavery, pulling down statues or renaming educational establishments, >>>> continues to support the descendant spawn of the Norman invaders who >>>> subjugated our ancestors into the slavery of serfdom >>> >>> Your ancestors were probably already serfs. The Norman conquest >>> swapped one ruling class for another. >> >> Whether or not that is true, it remains that the current Great Parasite >> Of Windsor is founded upon slavery. > > Oh please. utterly irrelevant. FAR bigger parasites around. Indeed. And at least the royals have entertainment value. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Life is perverse. \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | It can be beautiful - X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | but it won't. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lily Tomlin
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| From | Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 19:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsob0so.c02.Greymaus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #219621 |
On 2021-11-05, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > On 2021-11-05, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 05/11/2021 11:40, gareth evans wrote: >> >>> On 04/11/2021 23:11, Peter Flass wrote: >>> >>>> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It is strange that the current wokery about removing the symbolism >>>>> of slavery, pulling down statues or renaming educational establishments, >>>>> continues to support the descendant spawn of the Norman invaders who >>>>> subjugated our ancestors into the slavery of serfdom >>>> >>>> Your ancestors were probably already serfs. The Norman conquest >>>> swapped one ruling class for another. >>> >>> Whether or not that is true, it remains that the current Great Parasite >>> Of Windsor is founded upon slavery. >> >> Oh please. utterly irrelevant. FAR bigger parasites around. > > Indeed. And at least the royals have entertainment value. > I find nothing amusing about prince andrew. He reminds me of the stories I herd the old people tell of Queen Victoria's sons in Ireland. -- greymausg@mail.com That's not a mousehole!
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 20:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20211105200408.1c125636889d401d79c708f3@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #219626 |
On 5 Nov 2021 19:18:48 GMT Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> wrote: > I find nothing amusing about prince andrew. He reminds me of the stories > I herd the old people tell of Queen Victoria's sons in Ireland. Agreed, I recall hearing him called "randy Andy" when I was quite young so it seems he got into the habit quite early on. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 23:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <AsjhJ.71829$IW4.14388@fx48.iad> |
| In reply to | #219636 |
On 2021-11-05, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On 5 Nov 2021 19:18:48 GMT > Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> wrote: > >> I find nothing amusing about prince andrew. He reminds me of the stories >> I herd the old people tell of Queen Victoria's sons in Ireland. > > Agreed, I recall hearing him called "randy Andy" when I was quite > young so it seems he got into the habit quite early on. So did I. OK, think of it as entertaining in a tabloid sense. God knows they appear often enough in the local tabloids. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Life is perverse. \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | It can be beautiful - X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | but it won't. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lily Tomlin
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-06 05:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20211106051339.6fc013dbf8e22f51248c66ce@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #219650 |
On Fri, 05 Nov 2021 23:52:00 GMT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > On 2021-11-05, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > > > On 5 Nov 2021 19:18:48 GMT > > Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> wrote: > > > >> I find nothing amusing about prince andrew. He reminds me of the > >> stories I herd the old people tell of Queen Victoria's sons in Ireland. > > > > Agreed, I recall hearing him called "randy Andy" when I was > > quite young so it seems he got into the habit quite early on. > > So did I. OK, think of it as entertaining in a tabloid sense. > God knows they appear often enough in the local tabloids. To be fair I'm not at all surprised that members of that family go off the rails like that. Where Gareth thinks parasites of Windsor I tend to think prisoners of Windsor - the people involved are trapped in a system that allows almost no freedom, it's no great surprise that they take whatever freedoms they can find - it's a pity that some of them choose reprehensible freedoms. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
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