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Must-read computer folklore books

Started byThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
First post2020-09-05 09:43 +0000
Last post2020-10-20 07:41 -0500
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  Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 09:43 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2020-09-05 04:22 -0700
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Rick Umali <rickumali@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 13:44 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 16:45 +0100
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 16:22 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-05 18:33 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 21:43 +0100
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 20:02 +0100
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 17:19 -0500
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-09-06 00:15 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-05 18:32 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-07 11:27 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-05 18:02 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-09-05 17:31 -0300
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-05 18:24 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-05 18:30 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-05 19:58 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-05 21:49 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-08 21:10 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-05 17:38 -0700
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-06 08:56 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-09-06 01:31 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Iron Spring Software <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2020-09-06 08:30 -0700
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-09-06 14:00 -0500
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 06:50 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-18 08:31 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-10-18 22:18 -0400
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> - 2020-10-19 05:06 +0100
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-09-10 22:01 +0100
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-10 16:12 -0700
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-10 20:53 -0700
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-11 06:48 -0700
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-11 19:22 +0000
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-12 12:32 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-09-11 11:03 -0500
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-18 03:11 -0500
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 08:17 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-18 09:24 +0100
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 08:25 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-18 03:27 -0500
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 08:32 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-18 10:06 +0100
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 13:09 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 09:13 +0000
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 09:26 +0000
              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 13:21 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-19 02:28 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-18 19:52 -0700
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-19 15:02 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-19 17:46 +0000
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-19 17:56 +0000
              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-19 12:11 -0700
                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-19 19:26 +0000
                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-19 12:38 -0700
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-20 01:01 +0000
                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-21 22:03 +0000
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-10-21 23:54 -0500
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 07:03 -0500
                      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-22 13:02 +0000
                        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 08:25 -0500
                          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-22 13:30 +0000
                          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-22 14:18 +0000
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 09:34 -0500
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-22 16:14 +0000
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-22 10:18 -0700
                                Re: the wonders of FORTRAN, Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-22 17:46 +0000
                                  Re: the wonders of FORTRAN, Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-22 20:47 +0100
                                    Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 18:01 -0500
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-22 23:21 +0000
                                        Re: the wonders of FORTRAN J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 19:54 -0400
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 20:31 -0700
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2020-10-23 10:13 +0000
                                        Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Hook Bandit <hookbandit@gmail.com> - 2020-10-23 13:03 +0000
                                          Re: the wonders of FORTRAN J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-23 11:46 -0400
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-10-25 10:33 +0100
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 11:22 +0000
                                        Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-26 09:42 +0000
                                          Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-26 21:55 +0000
                                  Re: the wonders of FORTRAN, Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-23 10:52 +0000
                                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 12:08 -0700
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-22 18:32 +0000
                                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 13:53 -0500
                                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 13:01 -0700
                                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 16:17 -0500
                                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-10-24 09:57 +0300
                                      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-24 07:11 +0000
                                        Re: Must-read computer folklore books J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 07:22 -0400
                                          mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 08:59 -0500
                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-24 15:04 +0100
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 11:12 -0400
                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-24 15:04 +0100
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 10:59 -0500
                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-24 17:28 +0100
                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 13:03 -0500
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 14:28 -0400
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-24 19:41 +0100
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 17:51 -0400
                                                        Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-25 17:23 +0000
                                                          Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 17:56 +0000
                                                            Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-25 15:36 -0500
                                                            Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-26 09:37 +0000
                                                              Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 08:28 -0400
                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 13:18 -0400
                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-25 07:48 +0000
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 10:02 -0400
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 15:12 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-25 16:39 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 10:13 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 11:57 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-25 17:00 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-25 20:00 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-25 15:33 -0500
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-25 21:34 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 10:11 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 08:17 -0400
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 17:37 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-25 20:20 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-26 22:09 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 09:31 +0000
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 05:59 -0500
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 13:53 -0500
                                                                  Re: indexing, was mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 19:31 +0000
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 16:22 -0500
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-27 20:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 23:40 +0000
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 09:01 -0500
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 15:21 +0000
                                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 14:41 -0500
                                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:10 -0400
                                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 21:25 +0000
                                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 17:17 -0500
                                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 22:46 +0000
                                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-01 07:38 +0000
                                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 21:24 +0000
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 23:51 +0000
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-27 20:06 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-27 20:18 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 08:38 -0500
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 13:28 -0500
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 15:30 -0700
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:41 -0600
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-30 20:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-31 19:15 +0000
                                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-31 21:15 +0000
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 08:42 +0000
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-29 09:08 +0000
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 08:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-10-29 15:28 +0000
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 12:52 -0400
                                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-10-29 17:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 13:35 -0400
                                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-11-01 14:25 +0000
                                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-01 16:26 -0500
                                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 16:04 -0600
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:45 -0600
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-31 17:50 +0000
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read compu Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-19 20:47 +0100
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read compu Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-20 20:09 +0000
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-27 20:08 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 16:40 -0500
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-28 04:48 +0000
                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 02:17 -0700
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 10:06 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-26 10:43 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 11:07 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:48 -0500
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                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 09:28 +0000
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 18:29 +0000
                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-28 08:45 +0000
                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-10-28 05:29 -0500
                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 08:45 -0500
                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:06 -0500
                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 11:39 -0400
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-28 16:33 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-28 19:00 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 14:45 -0500
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:07 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-30 06:19 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:00 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 08:48 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:48 -0600
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2020-11-02 19:25 -0500
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 09:50 -0600
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 19:34 -0500
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 19:48 -0500
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 20:38 -0500
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 09:19 +0000
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 09:56 -0600
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-04 22:52 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-05 00:42 -0500
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-05 06:50 +0000
                                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-11-05 01:11 -0800
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-05 09:46 -0600
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-07 21:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-07 23:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-05 08:37 -0600
                                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-05 09:51 -0500
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Richard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2020-11-06 17:50 -0500
                                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-06 20:08 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-06 20:18 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-06 21:25 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-07 11:48 -0700
                                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-05 15:12 +0000
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-05 09:49 -0600
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-03 03:34 -0600
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-11-06 04:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-03 15:55 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-03 10:59 -0700
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-03 19:02 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-03 19:26 +0000
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-03 10:59 -0700
                                                                              Scout fires. Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 07:49 +0000
                                                                                Re: Scout fires. JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 09:56 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Scout fires. Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 17:11 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-28 14:23 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:08 -0400
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-10-28 23:40 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-29 00:39 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 22:19 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 22:11 -0500
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 22:13 -0500
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 22:25 -0500
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-29 07:38 +0000
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-29 05:50 -0500
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 08:31 -0400
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-29 07:41 -0500
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-29 08:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:44 -0600
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-29 06:03 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-29 12:10 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 13:29 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-29 13:42 -0400
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 13:55 -0400
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-29 18:51 +0000
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 21:37 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-10-29 17:44 -0500
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:59 -0600
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-03 06:44 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-03 07:03 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-03 10:02 +0000
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-03 13:48 +0000
                                                                                      Asimov, was: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2020-11-03 13:56 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-03 14:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-03 15:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 15:57 +0000
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-03 16:44 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-03 18:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 09:52 -0600
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 18:46 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-11-03 19:38 -0400
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 18:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-04 00:59 +0000
                                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 20:40 -0500
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-04 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-04 13:36 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-04 19:37 +0000
                                                                                                    ouchies, was: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2020-11-04 20:45 +0000
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-04 23:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-04 13:35 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-04 18:28 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 20:43 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 16:51 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-10-30 10:54 +0100
                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-28 14:20 -0400
                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 08:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-29 12:04 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 12:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-29 17:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-29 18:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-10-29 16:58 -0300
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-29 18:59 +0000
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-26 11:37 +0000
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:35 -0500
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 17:20 -0500
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-26 17:24 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-10-26 23:27 +0000
                                                        mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 18:39 -0500
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 18:40 -0500
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 06:08 +0000
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                                Re: APL, not mathematician equation markup? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 17:53 -0400
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-27 17:38 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-28 06:36 +0000
                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-24 17:07 +0000
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 13:47 -0400
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-25 00:11 +0000
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 12:08 -0700
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 12:08 -0700
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                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 17:23 -0400
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 19:35 -0700
                                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-23 08:37 +0000
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#215110 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2020-10-30 06:19 +0000
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rngba3$sjb$2@newsreader4.netcologne.de>
In reply to#215051
Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> schrieb:

> Too much information readily available on the internet for mischief makers with access to 
> interesting substances.

Ah, like the legendary "Anarchist's Cookbook".  The recipes in there
were dangerous enough to people using them that there was a rumor
circulating the book had been written by some government agency
to weed out potential offenders.

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#215053 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-28 16:00 -0400
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<tcjjpfddh4tjpqkgmr7n87pbo9mmkqmiqb@4ax.com>
In reply to#215044
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 10:36:15 -0700, Peter Flass
<peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 05:29:55 -0500, Andy Leighton
>> <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2020 08:45:28 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>>>> On 2020-10-27, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I gather that hand santitizers were usuallly methanol and isopropanol,
>>>>> but in the pandemic as bars closed and beer demand dropped, they
>>>>> distilled what they couldn't sell and now the sanitizers you find are
>>>>> mostly ethanol.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I still wouldn't drink it.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, neither would I. Unfortunately, some desperate individuals out there
>>>> apparently would.
>>> 
>>> I still have some old pre-covid hand sanitiser. Ethyl alcohol - which is
>>> ethanol. Never heard of any methanol based hand sanitiser, although
>>> there were some iso-propanol based sanitiser.
>> 
>> I am reminded that parents are strange creatures.  I got a chemistry
>> set for one of my birthdays.  It had in it an alcohol lamp and there
>> were some exercises with glassworking in the instruction book.  The
>> instruction book said to use methyl alcohol in the lamp.  My parents
>> would not allow me to have methyl alcohol because "if you drink it
>> you'll go blind".  Apparently they did not read the label on the
>> rather diluted isopropyl that they would allow me to have which did
>> not run the lamp hot enough to be useful but if drunk would make me go
>> equally blind.  Or for that matter the label on the chemistry set--I'm
>> pretty sure that they would not have been happy with the outcome if I
>> had drunk the nitric, sulfuric, or hydrochloric acids.
>> 
>
>I think they’ve dumbed-down chemistry sets these days, much to the
>detriment of both fun and actually learning anything.

I think they've dumbed-down being a kid today, much to the detriment
of both fun and actually learning anything.

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#215076 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

Frommaus <maus@dmaus.org>
Date2020-10-29 08:48 +0000
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<slrnrpl0ei.2vo.maus@dmaus.org>
In reply to#215044
On 2020-10-28, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 05:29:55 -0500, Andy Leighton
>> <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 28 Oct 2020 08:45:28 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>>>> On 2020-10-27, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>> apparently would.
>>> 
>>> I still have some old pre-covid hand sanitiser. Ethyl alcohol - which is
>>> ethanol. Never heard of any methanol based hand sanitiser, although
>>> there were some iso-propanol based sanitiser.
>> 
>> I am reminded that parents are strange creatures.  I got a chemistry
>> set for one of my birthdays.  It had in it an alcohol lamp and there
>> were some exercises with glassworking in the instruction book.  The
>> instruction book said to use methyl alcohol in the lamp.  My parents
>> would not allow me to have methyl alcohol because "if you drink it
>> you'll go blind".  Apparently they did not read the label on the
>> rather diluted isopropyl that they would allow me to have which did
>> not run the lamp hot enough to be useful but if drunk would make me go
>> equally blind.  Or for that matter the label on the chemistry set--I'm
>> pretty sure that they would not have been happy with the outcome if I
>> had drunk the nitric, sulfuric, or hydrochloric acids.
>> 
>
> I think they’ve dumbed-down chemistry sets these days, much to the
> detriment of both fun and actually learning anything.
>

++++

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#215126 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-02 15:48 -0600
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<khv0qfhh1ma3jpcvgrsl1050i8upk3jrne@4ax.com>
In reply to#215076
On 29 Oct 2020 08:48:18 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>On 2020-10-28, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 05:29:55 -0500, Andy Leighton
>>> <andyl@azaal.plus.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Oct 2020 08:45:28 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-10-27, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
>>>>> apparently would.
>>>> 
>>>> I still have some old pre-covid hand sanitiser. Ethyl alcohol - which is
>>>> ethanol. Never heard of any methanol based hand sanitiser, although
>>>> there were some iso-propanol based sanitiser.
>>> 
>>> I am reminded that parents are strange creatures.  I got a chemistry
>>> set for one of my birthdays.  It had in it an alcohol lamp and there
>>> were some exercises with glassworking in the instruction book.  The
>>> instruction book said to use methyl alcohol in the lamp.  My parents
>>> would not allow me to have methyl alcohol because "if you drink it
>>> you'll go blind".  Apparently they did not read the label on the
>>> rather diluted isopropyl that they would allow me to have which did
>>> not run the lamp hot enough to be useful but if drunk would make me go
>>> equally blind.  Or for that matter the label on the chemistry set--I'm
>>> pretty sure that they would not have been happy with the outcome if I
>>> had drunk the nitric, sulfuric, or hydrochloric acids.
>>> 
>>
>> I think they’ve dumbed-down chemistry sets these days, much to the
>> detriment of both fun and actually learning anything.
>>
>
>++++

One of my relatives told me Scouts don't make fire rings anymore...
its hurts the soil and nothing can grow there anymore.

Well, they use a metal fire pit. Unless it is elevated up off the
ground, the same thing will happen.

-- 
Jim

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#215129 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJoy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid>
Date2020-11-02 19:25 -0500
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<qf81qf19dr59gp64trgc29lovk66sg9fes@4ax.com>
In reply to#215126
On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 15:48:02 -0600, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
wrote:

> One of my relatives told me Scouts don't make fire rings anymore...
> its hurts the soil and nothing can grow there anymore.

There's a *real* fire ring in the park next door.  The fire itself is
built on a small mound, but there are three or four rings of concrete
benches around it.

It was old when I first saw it sixty years ago.  

-- 
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at centurylink dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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#215143 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-03 09:50 -0600
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<ptu2qf9m7fp5gkukbdjk3f9bq89asakegq@4ax.com>
In reply to#215129
On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:25:03 -0500, Joy Beeson
<jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 15:48:02 -0600, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> One of my relatives told me Scouts don't make fire rings anymore...
>> its hurts the soil and nothing can grow there anymore.
>
>There's a *real* fire ring in the park next door.  The fire itself is
>built on a small mound, but there are three or four rings of concrete
>benches around it.
>
>It was old when I first saw it sixty years ago.  

The local state parks have designated fire rings/pits, on the ground.
And one of the park rules is a camper doesn't start their own fire
pit.

Back when I was in Scouts, 1960s through 1970s, except when I was in
the Navy, we just dug a small hole a few inches deep, and replaced the
sod when we left. There were fire rings at the summer camps.

-- 
Jim

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#215130 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-02 19:34 -0500
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<rnq8jg$hld$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215126
JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes:

> One of my relatives told me Scouts don't make fire rings anymore...
> its hurts the soil and nothing can grow there anymore.

I've been in the woods a whole lot, I can't recall ever seeing
a bare patch where fires were built in the past.

For sure, a fire will sterilize the soil a few inches down.
I've never seen any evidence that this causes a problem.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#215131 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-02 19:48 -0500
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<s3a1qfp4jgmcvd7o8l5ep4hhj0rbqnr5a9@4ax.com>
In reply to#215130
On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:34:56 -0500, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
wrote:

>JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> One of my relatives told me Scouts don't make fire rings anymore...
>> its hurts the soil and nothing can grow there anymore.
>
>I've been in the woods a whole lot, I can't recall ever seeing
>a bare patch where fires were built in the past.
>
>For sure, a fire will sterilize the soil a few inches down.
>I've never seen any evidence that this causes a problem.

The real problem with fire rings like much else is population density.
In places like New England if everybody who camped out built a fire
using wood from the surroundings pretty soon there wouldn't be any
forest left.  At least it was that way once--I have the impression
that the popularity of camping out has declined.

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#215132 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-02 20:38 -0500
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<rnqcb3$4v2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215131
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:34:56 -0500, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> One of my relatives told me Scouts don't make fire rings anymore...
>>> its hurts the soil and nothing can grow there anymore.
>>
>>I've been in the woods a whole lot, I can't recall ever seeing
>>a bare patch where fires were built in the past.
>>
>>For sure, a fire will sterilize the soil a few inches down.
>>I've never seen any evidence that this causes a problem.
>
> The real problem with fire rings like much else is population density.
> In places like New England if everybody who camped out built a fire
> using wood from the surroundings pretty soon there wouldn't be any
> forest left.  At least it was that way once--I have the impression
> that the popularity of camping out has declined.

Back in the day I did a whole lot of camping.

A few sites I remember had old "resting" camp sites.
You could tell they had once been set up for camping
but they were in various states of return to nature.

Old campfires left a long lasting stain in the sand
in the Pine Barrens.  Some of the sand would be black.
It didn't appear to inhibit plant growth.

I'd still go camping if I had company.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#215136 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2020-11-03 09:19 +0000
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<20201103091909.924b67cc2d9ceff22b71a7a4@eircom.net>
In reply to#215131
On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:48:20 -0500
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

> In places like New England if everybody who camped out built a fire
> using wood from the surroundings pretty soon there wouldn't be any
> forest left. 

	Are scouts and campers not taught to use only fallen wood these
days ?

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
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#215146 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromJimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-03 09:56 -0600
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<qcv2qfdlatjk0chfg5pdeld191j20ohhn6@4ax.com>
In reply to#215136
On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 09:19:09 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
<steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:48:20 -0500
>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In places like New England if everybody who camped out built a fire
>> using wood from the surroundings pretty soon there wouldn't be any
>> forest left. 
>
>	Are scouts and campers not taught to use only fallen wood these
>days ?

Not that I know of.

-- 
Jim

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#215170 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-11-04 22:52 +0000
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<slrnrq6c6a.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#215146
On Tue, 2020-11-03, JimP wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 09:19:09 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:48:20 -0500
>>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In places like New England if everybody who camped out built a fire
>>> using wood from the surroundings pretty soon there wouldn't be any
>>> forest left. 
>>
>>	Are scouts and campers not taught to use only fallen wood these
>>days ?
>
> Not that I know of.

And anyway, dead wood (fallen or still standing) is often the most
important wood in an ecosystem.  Around here, really old dead wood is
where you can find certain endangered lichens.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#215172 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-05 00:42 -0500
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<5547qf9jhfueiv345f90d6mf0l8qqcb5en@4ax.com>
In reply to#215170
On 4 Nov 2020 22:52:58 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
wrote:

>On Tue, 2020-11-03, JimP wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 09:19:09 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:48:20 -0500
>>>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In places like New England if everybody who camped out built a fire
>>>> using wood from the surroundings pretty soon there wouldn't be any
>>>> forest left. 
>>>
>>>	Are scouts and campers not taught to use only fallen wood these
>>>days ?
>>
>> Not that I know of.
>
>And anyway, dead wood (fallen or still standing) is often the most
>important wood in an ecosystem.  Around here, really old dead wood is
>where you can find certain endangered lichens.

If there's no fallen wood then what?

You're assuming a relatively small ratio of campers to trees.

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#215173 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-11-05 06:50 +0000
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<slrnrq785o.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#215172
On Thu, 2020-11-05, J  Clarke wrote:
> On 4 Nov 2020 22:52:58 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 2020-11-03, JimP wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 09:19:09 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>>> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:48:20 -0500
>>>>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In places like New England if everybody who camped out built a fire
>>>>> using wood from the surroundings pretty soon there wouldn't be any
>>>>> forest left. 
>>>>
>>>>	Are scouts and campers not taught to use only fallen wood these
>>>>days ?
>>>
>>> Not that I know of.
>>
>>And anyway, dead wood (fallen or still standing) is often the most
>>important wood in an ecosystem.  Around here, really old dead wood is
>>where you can find certain endangered lichens.
>
> If there's no fallen wood then what?
>
> You're assuming a relatively small ratio of campers to trees.

I didn't mention campers at all, just making the point that dead wood
can be more valuable if noone burns it.

I've done some camping, but we almost never built a fire. We brought a
portable stove for cooking and boiling water for coffee:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trangia

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#215174 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2020-11-05 01:11 -0800
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<af0cade7-e1de-43df-8a44-480a90d9daa8n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#215173
On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 11:50:34 PM UTC-7, Jorgen Grahn wrote:

> I didn't mention campers at all, just making the point that dead wood 
> can be more valuable if noone burns it. 

But in the context of the discussion, the number of campers is what makes
all the difference.

Cutting wood from a living tree causes some damage to the forest.

Taking wood that has naturally fallen causes less damage.

But whether the damage in either case is significant or not depends on
how often it takes place. So if a forest is visited by more campers, the
rules they will have to observe in order that the forest will remain
healthy will have to be more stringent.

At one point, it won't matter if branches are cut from trees.

At another point, taking naturally dead wood will be enough of
an improvement.

And at still a later point, even using the dead wood will
deprive the forest of an important part of the life within it.

John Savard

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#215178 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromJimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-05 09:46 -0600
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<u978qftqfn646j8nec6rbook3jpefikdcg@4ax.com>
In reply to#215174
On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 01:11:23 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
wrote:
>On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 11:50:34 PM UTC-7, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>
>> I didn't mention campers at all, just making the point that dead wood 
>> can be more valuable if noone burns it. 
>
>But in the context of the discussion, the number of campers is what makes
>all the difference.
>
>Cutting wood from a living tree causes some damage to the forest.
>
>Taking wood that has naturally fallen causes less damage.
>
>But whether the damage in either case is significant or not depends on
>how often it takes place. So if a forest is visited by more campers, the
>rules they will have to observe in order that the forest will remain
>healthy will have to be more stringent.
>
>At one point, it won't matter if branches are cut from trees.
>
>At another point, taking naturally dead wood will be enough of
>an improvement.
>
>And at still a later point, even using the dead wood will
>deprive the forest of an important part of the life within it.
>
>John Savard

But if down wood accumulates too much, the chances of a wild fire
spreading increases.

I remember our Scout troop in the 1960s would change locations for
weekend camping trips. Our scoutmaster knew several farmers in the
area, who let us camp on their property. So we wound up using the dead
fallen wood that they wanted to clear, but didn't have the time to do
so.

But I doubt we made much of a dent in the amount.

For places like summer camps, the camp ranger would typically bring a
load of down wood to our campsite before we got there on Friday
evening. He told us it was to reduce wild fires spreading. Well, back
then, he more likely said 'forest fire' insterad of wild fire.

-- 
Jim

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#215196 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-11-07 21:55 +0000
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<slrnrqe5up.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#215174
On Thu, 2020-11-05, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 11:50:34 PM UTC-7, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>
>> I didn't mention campers at all, just making the point that dead wood 
>> can be more valuable if noone burns it. 
>
> But in the context of the discussion, the number of campers is what makes
> all the difference.
>
> Cutting wood from a living tree causes some damage to the forest.
>
> Taking wood that has naturally fallen causes less damage.

My point was exactly the opposite -- for some forests, and some
definitions of "damage" (ecological, not economical).

An example: a wetland area up in the mountains, which I visited with
my brother a few years ago.  There are pines and spruces growing here
and there -- small and ancient, and half-dead.  /That/ kind of dead
wood is valuable: exposed to the elements, extremely hard, extremely
old (wouldn't be surprised if some of it had been dead since the
1800s).

And campers or hunters had used it for fires.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#215200 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2020-11-07 23:22 +0000
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<20201107232253.c514f63c9e24b2a55c25cc7b@eircom.net>
In reply to#215196
On 7 Nov 2020 21:55:37 GMT
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:

> On Thu, 2020-11-05, Quadibloc wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 4, 2020 at 11:50:34 PM UTC-7, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> >
> >> I didn't mention campers at all, just making the point that dead wood 
> >> can be more valuable if noone burns it. 
> >
> > But in the context of the discussion, the number of campers is what
> > makes all the difference.
> >
> > Cutting wood from a living tree causes some damage to the forest.
> >
> > Taking wood that has naturally fallen causes less damage.
> 
> My point was exactly the opposite -- for some forests, and some
> definitions of "damage" (ecological, not economical).
> 
> An example: a wetland area up in the mountains, which I visited with
> my brother a few years ago.  There are pines and spruces growing here
> and there -- small and ancient, and half-dead.  /That/ kind of dead
> wood is valuable: exposed to the elements, extremely hard, extremely
> old (wouldn't be surprised if some of it had been dead since the
> 1800s).

	Yep that's not the kind of place we went camping and not the kind
of wood we were taught to take.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
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#215175 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-11-05 08:37 -0600
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<ro12mj$eb4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215172
On 11/4/2020 11:42 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> On 4 Nov 2020 22:52:58 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 2020-11-03, JimP wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 09:19:09 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>>> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:48:20 -0500
>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In places like New England if everybody who camped out built a fire
>>>>> using wood from the surroundings pretty soon there wouldn't be any
>>>>> forest left.
>>>>
>>>> 	Are scouts and campers not taught to use only fallen wood these
>>>> days ?
>>>
>>> Not that I know of.
>>
>> And anyway, dead wood (fallen or still standing) is often the most
>> important wood in an ecosystem.  Around here, really old dead wood is
>> where you can find certain endangered lichens.
> 
> If there's no fallen wood then what?
> 
> You're assuming a relatively small ratio of campers to trees.
> 

We always used a small propane stove.
You had to be careful with propane (it is heavier than air so it can flow downhill and pool) but it 
sure made us get set up fast and left no ashes or cut trees.


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#215176 — Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-05 09:51 -0500
SubjectRe: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup?
Message-ID<ro13h1$i5b$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215175
Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> writes:

> On 11/4/2020 11:42 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On 4 Nov 2020 22:52:58 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 2020-11-03, JimP wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 09:19:09 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>>>> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2020 19:48:20 -0500
>>>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In places like New England if everybody who camped out built a fire
>>>>>> using wood from the surroundings pretty soon there wouldn't be any
>>>>>> forest left.
>>>>>
>>>>> 	Are scouts and campers not taught to use only fallen wood these
>>>>> days ?
>>>>
>>>> Not that I know of.
>>>
>>> And anyway, dead wood (fallen or still standing) is often the most
>>> important wood in an ecosystem.  Around here, really old dead wood is
>>> where you can find certain endangered lichens.
>> If there's no fallen wood then what?
>> You're assuming a relatively small ratio of campers to trees.
>
> We always used a small propane stove.
> You had to be careful with propane (it is heavier than air so it can
> flow downhill and pool) but it sure made us get set up fast and left
> no ashes or cut trees.

We started out cooking right on the fire.  (Hardcore.)
A couple of trips later, we started packing a wire grill.
After a few years, a fire ban forced us to upgrade to a white gas
grill.

We still made a fire.
Keeps the bugs away and provides light, warmth.

-- 
Dan Espen

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