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Must-read computer folklore books

Started byThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
First post2020-09-05 09:43 +0000
Last post2020-10-20 07:41 -0500
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  Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 09:43 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2020-09-05 04:22 -0700
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Rick Umali <rickumali@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 13:44 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 16:45 +0100
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 16:22 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-05 18:33 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 21:43 +0100
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 20:02 +0100
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 17:19 -0500
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-09-06 00:15 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-05 18:32 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-07 11:27 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-05 18:02 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-09-05 17:31 -0300
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-05 18:24 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-05 18:30 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-05 19:58 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-05 21:49 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-08 21:10 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-05 17:38 -0700
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-06 08:56 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-09-06 01:31 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Iron Spring Software <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2020-09-06 08:30 -0700
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-09-06 14:00 -0500
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 06:50 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-18 08:31 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-10-18 22:18 -0400
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> - 2020-10-19 05:06 +0100
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-09-10 22:01 +0100
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-10 16:12 -0700
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-10 20:53 -0700
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-11 06:48 -0700
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-11 19:22 +0000
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-12 12:32 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-09-11 11:03 -0500
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-18 03:11 -0500
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 08:17 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-18 09:24 +0100
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 08:25 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-18 03:27 -0500
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 08:32 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-18 10:06 +0100
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 13:09 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 09:13 +0000
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 09:26 +0000
              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 13:21 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-19 02:28 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-18 19:52 -0700
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-19 15:02 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-19 17:46 +0000
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-19 17:56 +0000
              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-19 12:11 -0700
                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-19 19:26 +0000
                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-19 12:38 -0700
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-20 01:01 +0000
                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-21 22:03 +0000
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-10-21 23:54 -0500
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 07:03 -0500
                      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-22 13:02 +0000
                        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 08:25 -0500
                          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-22 13:30 +0000
                          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-22 14:18 +0000
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 09:34 -0500
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-22 16:14 +0000
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-22 10:18 -0700
                                Re: the wonders of FORTRAN, Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-22 17:46 +0000
                                  Re: the wonders of FORTRAN, Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-22 20:47 +0100
                                    Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 18:01 -0500
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-22 23:21 +0000
                                        Re: the wonders of FORTRAN J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 19:54 -0400
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 20:31 -0700
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2020-10-23 10:13 +0000
                                        Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Hook Bandit <hookbandit@gmail.com> - 2020-10-23 13:03 +0000
                                          Re: the wonders of FORTRAN J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-23 11:46 -0400
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-10-25 10:33 +0100
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 11:22 +0000
                                        Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-26 09:42 +0000
                                          Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-26 21:55 +0000
                                  Re: the wonders of FORTRAN, Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-23 10:52 +0000
                                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 12:08 -0700
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-22 18:32 +0000
                                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 13:53 -0500
                                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 13:01 -0700
                                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 16:17 -0500
                                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-10-24 09:57 +0300
                                      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-24 07:11 +0000
                                        Re: Must-read computer folklore books J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 07:22 -0400
                                          mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 08:59 -0500
                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-24 15:04 +0100
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 11:12 -0400
                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-24 15:04 +0100
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 10:59 -0500
                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-24 17:28 +0100
                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 13:03 -0500
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 14:28 -0400
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-24 19:41 +0100
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 17:51 -0400
                                                        Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-25 17:23 +0000
                                                          Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 17:56 +0000
                                                            Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-25 15:36 -0500
                                                            Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-26 09:37 +0000
                                                              Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 08:28 -0400
                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 13:18 -0400
                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-25 07:48 +0000
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 10:02 -0400
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 15:12 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-25 16:39 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 10:13 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 11:57 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-25 17:00 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-25 20:00 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-25 15:33 -0500
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-25 21:34 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 10:11 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 08:17 -0400
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 17:37 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-25 20:20 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-26 22:09 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 09:31 +0000
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 05:59 -0500
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 13:53 -0500
                                                                  Re: indexing, was mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 19:31 +0000
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 16:22 -0500
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-27 20:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 23:40 +0000
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 09:01 -0500
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 15:21 +0000
                                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 14:41 -0500
                                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:10 -0400
                                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 21:25 +0000
                                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 17:17 -0500
                                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 22:46 +0000
                                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-01 07:38 +0000
                                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 21:24 +0000
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 23:51 +0000
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-27 20:06 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-27 20:18 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 08:38 -0500
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 13:28 -0500
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 15:30 -0700
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:41 -0600
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-30 20:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-31 19:15 +0000
                                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-31 21:15 +0000
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 08:42 +0000
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-29 09:08 +0000
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 08:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-10-29 15:28 +0000
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 12:52 -0400
                                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-10-29 17:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 13:35 -0400
                                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-11-01 14:25 +0000
                                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-01 16:26 -0500
                                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 16:04 -0600
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:45 -0600
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-31 17:50 +0000
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read compu Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-19 20:47 +0100
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read compu Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-20 20:09 +0000
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-27 20:08 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 16:40 -0500
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-28 04:48 +0000
                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 02:17 -0700
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 10:06 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-26 10:43 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 11:07 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:48 -0500
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                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-28 16:33 +0000
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                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-03 15:55 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-03 10:59 -0700
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-03 19:02 +0000
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                                                                              Scout fires. Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 07:49 +0000
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                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-10-28 23:40 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-29 00:39 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 22:19 -0400
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                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-29 07:41 -0500
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-29 08:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:44 -0600
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-29 06:03 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-29 12:10 -0400
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                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 13:55 -0400
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                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-29 18:51 +0000
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                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-03 06:44 +0000
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                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-03 10:02 +0000
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-03 13:48 +0000
                                                                                      Asimov, was: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2020-11-03 13:56 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-03 14:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-03 15:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 15:57 +0000
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-03 16:44 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-03 18:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 09:52 -0600
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 18:46 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-11-03 19:38 -0400
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 18:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-04 00:59 +0000
                                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 20:40 -0500
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-04 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-04 13:36 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-04 19:37 +0000
                                                                                                    ouchies, was: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2020-11-04 20:45 +0000
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                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 20:43 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 16:51 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-10-30 10:54 +0100
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                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 08:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-29 12:04 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 12:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-29 17:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-29 18:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-10-29 16:58 -0300
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-29 18:59 +0000
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-26 11:37 +0000
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:35 -0500
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 17:20 -0500
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-26 17:24 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-10-26 23:27 +0000
                                                        mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 18:39 -0500
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                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                                Re: APL, not mathematician equation markup? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 17:53 -0400
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-27 17:38 +0000
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                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-24 17:07 +0000
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                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-25 00:11 +0000
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#214976 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromNiklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se>
Date2020-10-27 09:31 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<hvq7mvFoeqhU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#214945
On 2020-10-26, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
[Kernighan's Unix history/memoir]
>
> Especially for a Unix guy.  The Bell Labs environment looks
> interesting in general, based on the CSTR series of papers I've had
> reason to read, on texts by Dennis Ritchie, and on Stroustrup's
> "Design and Evolution of C++" where it is a lot of the background.

Kernighan certainly makes it sound like a great place to work, if you
could get in (PhD pretty much required for any permanent research
position, unsurprisingly).

>
> I remember two complaints and yes, the picture quality was one. The
> other was the text didn't flow in the Kindle edition, which doesn't
> affect me.

The picture quality really didn't bother me, and yeah, I rarely read
e-books. It's hard to replace a proper dead-tree book.

I really ought to build more bookcases...

Niklas
-- 
You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat
you with 'til you understand who's in ruttin' command here!
                              -- Jayne Cobb, _Firefly_

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#214977 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-27 05:59 -0500
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rn8uhr$5sl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#214976
On 10/27/2020 4:31 AM, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>  It's hard to replace a proper dead-tree book.
> I really ought to build more bookcases...
> Niklas
> 

The traditional index, when care has been taken when composing it, is a major draw for me towards 
printed books.

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#214991 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<673420046.625514941.445018.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#214977
Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
> On 10/27/2020 4:31 AM, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>> It's hard to replace a proper dead-tree book.
>> I really ought to build more bookcases...
>> Niklas
>> 
> 
> The traditional index, when care has been taken when composing it, is a
> major draw for me towards 
> printed books.
> 

The lack of an index was my big complaint about _Abstracting Away the
Machine-. For a book like this it is a major failing.

-- 
Pete

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#214996 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-27 13:53 -0500
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rn9qbp$kn4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#214991
On 10/27/2020 1:14 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
> Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>> On 10/27/2020 4:31 AM, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>>> It's hard to replace a proper dead-tree book.
>>> I really ought to build more bookcases...
>>> Niklas
>>
>> The traditional index, when care has been taken when composing it, is a
>> major draw for me towards
>> printed books.
>>
> 
> The lack of an index was my big complaint about _Abstracting Away the
> Machine-. For a book like this it is a major failing.
> 

Yes I would think so too.

I see several titles on the pattern of "The Missing Manual" for operating system releases and such 
but I have yet to see "The Missing Index" published for a book like that.

I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that not too many people have.

Maybe it can be helped by employing some A.I. algorithms ?

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#214997 — Re: indexing, was mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJohn Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date2020-10-27 19:31 +0000
SubjectRe: indexing, was mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rn9sii$pue$1@gal.iecc.com>
In reply to#214996
In article <rn9qbp$kn4$1@dont-email.me>, Dallas  <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>I see several titles on the pattern of "The Missing Manual" for operating system releases and such 
>but I have yet to see "The Missing Index" published for a book like that.
>
>I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that not too many people have.

Quite right. There are people who are professional indexers. It is
hard to do a good job of identifying the terms to index and using
synonyms as needed when a term appears in different forms. Making life
more exciting, most books have a page budget for the index so you have
to adjust the set of tags to fit.

>Maybe it can be helped by employing some A.I. algorithms ?

I wouldn't hold my breath.

-- 
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John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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#215001 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rn9ss801fgu@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#214996
On 2020-10-27, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:

> On 10/27/2020 1:14 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
>
>> Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/27/2020 4:31 AM, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's hard to replace a proper dead-tree book.
>>>> I really ought to build more bookcases...
>>>
>>> The traditional index, when care has been taken
>>> when composing it, is a major draw for me towards
>>> printed books.

And then indexes started disappearing...

>> The lack of an index was my big complaint about _Abstracting
>> Away the  Machine-. For a book like this it is a major failing.
>
> Yes I would think so too.
>
> I see several titles on the pattern of "The Missing Manual"
> for operating system releases and such but I have yet to see
> "The Missing Index" published for a book like that.
>
> I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that
> not too many people have.
>
> Maybe it can be helped by employing some A.I. algorithms ?

Perhaps, if anyone cares anymore.  Oh well, worst case if you
have the book in machine-readable form you can search the text...

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)

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#215008 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-27 16:22 -0500
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rna331$jhc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215001
On 10/27/2020 2:36 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2020-10-27, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/27/2020 1:14 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
>>
>>> Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/27/2020 4:31 AM, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It's hard to replace a proper dead-tree book.
>>>>> I really ought to build more bookcases...
>>>>
>>>> The traditional index, when care has been taken
>>>> when composing it, is a major draw for me towards
>>>> printed books.
> 
> And then indexes started disappearing...
> 
>>> The lack of an index was my big complaint about _Abstracting
>>> Away the  Machine-. For a book like this it is a major failing.
>>
>> Yes I would think so too.
>>
>> I see several titles on the pattern of "The Missing Manual"
>> for operating system releases and such but I have yet to see
>> "The Missing Index" published for a book like that.
>>
>> I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that
>> not too many people have.
>>
>> Maybe it can be helped by employing some A.I. algorithms ?
> 
> Perhaps, if anyone cares anymore.  Oh well, worst case if you
> have the book in machine-readable form you can search the text...
> 

Ideally I like to have both the PDF and the paper versions of a technical book.
I have a good supply of those small yellow Postits and a yellow map pencil for highlighting the 
paper copy.
And as you say, I can quickly search the text using the PDF version.

As far as the index goes, I find that a good index has more information in it than just the page 
numbers.

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#215006 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

Frommaus <maus@dmaus.org>
Date2020-10-27 20:13 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<slrnrpgvr2.c4l.maus@dmaus.org>
In reply to#214996
On 2020-10-27, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
> On 10/27/2020 1:14 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
>> Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>> On 10/27/2020 4:31 AM, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>>>> It's hard to replace a proper dead-tree book.
>>>> I really ought to build more bookcases...
>>>> Niklas
>>>
>>> The traditional index, when care has been taken when composing it, is a
>>> major draw for me towards
>>> printed books.
>>>
>> 
>> The lack of an index was my big complaint about _Abstracting Away the
>> Machine-. For a book like this it is a major failing.
>> 
>
> Yes I would think so too.
>
> I see several titles on the pattern of "The Missing Manual" for operating system releases and such 
> but I have yet to see "The Missing Index" published for a book like that.
>
> I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that not too many people have.
>
LaTeX again. I have never done it, but I have ambitions (\makeindex)

>
> Maybe it can be helped by employing some A.I. algorithms ?

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#215021 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJohn Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date2020-10-27 23:40 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rnab52$2n90$1@gal.iecc.com>
In reply to#215006
In article <slrnrpgvr2.c4l.maus@dmaus.org>, maus  <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>> I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that not too many people have.
>>
>LaTeX again. I have never done it, but I have ambitions (\makeindex)

There are plenty of tools to handle the mechanics of sorting the
entries and making them look like an index. But none I've ever seen
that pick good index entries.

There are mechanical approaches like KWIC that index everything but a
set of trivial stopwords, but you get what you pay for.

-- 
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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#215035 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-28 09:01 -0500
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rnbtk1$jkt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215021
On 10/27/2020 6:40 PM, John Levine wrote:
> In article <slrnrpgvr2.c4l.maus@dmaus.org>, maus  <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>> I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that not too many people have.
>>>
>> LaTeX again. I have never done it, but I have ambitions (\makeindex)
> 
> There are plenty of tools to handle the mechanics of sorting the
> entries and making them look like an index. But none I've ever seen
> that pick good index entries.
> 
> There are mechanical approaches like KWIC that index everything but a
> set of trivial stopwords, but you get what you pay for.
> 

We called that a "crossreference" listing of program source back in the day.

I used "A.I." because I imagined something smart enough to do a good job generating the index.
Something much better that a simple mechanical "crossreference".

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#215037 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromBob Eager <news0073@eager.cx>
Date2020-10-28 15:21 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<hvtgkaFu9nkU17@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#215035
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 09:01:35 -0500, Dallas wrote:

> On 10/27/2020 6:40 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> In article <slrnrpgvr2.c4l.maus@dmaus.org>, maus  <maus@dmaus.org>
>> wrote:
>>>> I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that not too
>>>> many people have.
>>>>
>>> LaTeX again. I have never done it, but I have ambitions (\makeindex)
>> 
>> There are plenty of tools to handle the mechanics of sorting the
>> entries and making them look like an index. But none I've ever seen
>> that pick good index entries.
>> 
>> There are mechanical approaches like KWIC that index everything but a
>> set of trivial stopwords, but you get what you pay for.
>> 
>> 
> We called that a "crossreference" listing of program source back in the
> day.

Not a KWIC index, which is a bit more than that. KeyWord In Context - it 
shows the key words in the context of the surrounding text (a few words 
either side). I've generated these for my lecture notes in the past, to 
make it easier for students to revise.

But I take your point about selecting the right words to index. I made a 
list of 'stop' words and eliminated them, then manually pruned what was 
left. I generated the KWIC index, and decided to prune a few more words 
until it looked right.

Indexing is a proper occupation, and it would be good to "AI" it.
-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
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#215043 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<1849499512.625598916.250302.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#215037
Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 09:01:35 -0500, Dallas wrote:
> 
>> On 10/27/2020 6:40 PM, John Levine wrote:
>>> In article <slrnrpgvr2.c4l.maus@dmaus.org>, maus  <maus@dmaus.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that not too
>>>>> many people have.
>>>>> 
>>>> LaTeX again. I have never done it, but I have ambitions (\makeindex)
>>> 
>>> There are plenty of tools to handle the mechanics of sorting the
>>> entries and making them look like an index. But none I've ever seen
>>> that pick good index entries.
>>> 
>>> There are mechanical approaches like KWIC that index everything but a
>>> set of trivial stopwords, but you get what you pay for.
>>> 
>>> 
>> We called that a "crossreference" listing of program source back in the
>> day.
> 
> Not a KWIC index, which is a bit more than that. KeyWord In Context - it 
> shows the key words in the context of the surrounding text (a few words 
> either side). I've generated these for my lecture notes in the past, to 
> make it easier for students to revise.
> 
> But I take your point about selecting the right words to index. I made a 
> list of 'stop' words and eliminated them, then manually pruned what was 
> left. I generated the KWIC index, and decided to prune a few more words 
> until it looked right.
> 
> Indexing is a proper occupation, and it would be good to "AI" it.

I was looking for a KWIK indexer a while ago. They seem to have largely
died out, replaced by text search.

-- 
Pete

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#215050 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-28 14:41 -0500
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rnchgg$hd0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215043
On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
> I was looking for a KWIK indexer a while ago. They seem to have largely
> died out, replaced by text search.
> 

An interesting concept.  I had not known what it was until today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_Word_in_Context

KWAC  KWIC  KWOC


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#215056 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-28 16:10 -0400
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<eujjpft725talnhlftvan22kbn82mcp5md@4ax.com>
In reply to#215050
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:41:02 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:

>On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
>> I was looking for a KWIK indexer a while ago. They seem to have largely
>> died out, replaced by text search.
>> 
>
>An interesting concept.  I had not known what it was until today
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_Word_in_Context
>
>KWAC  KWIC  KWOC

I suspect that it would not be terribly difficult to cobble one up in
any of a number of modern programming languages.
>
>

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#215059 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromBob Eager <news0073@eager.cx>
Date2020-10-28 21:25 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<hvu5u2Fu9nkU19@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#215056
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:10:37 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:41:02 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
> 
>>On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
>>> I was looking for a KWIK indexer a while ago. They seem to have
>>> largely died out, replaced by text search.
>>> 
>>> 
>>An interesting concept.  I had not known what it was until today
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_Word_in_Context
>>
>>KWAC  KWIC  KWOC
> 
> I suspect that it would not be terribly difficult to cobble one up in
> any of a number of modern programming languages.
>>
>>

I did. In REXX.



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#215060 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-28 17:17 -0500
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rncql1$1js$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215059
On 10/28/2020 4:25 PM, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:10:37 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:41:02 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> I was looking for a KWIK indexer a while ago. They seem to have
>>>> largely died out, replaced by text search.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> An interesting concept.  I had not known what it was until today
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_Word_in_Context
>>>
>>> KWAC  KWIC  KWOC
>>
>> I suspect that it would not be terribly difficult to cobble one up in
>> any of a number of modern programming languages.
>>>
>>>
> 
> I did. In REXX.
> 

Do you still have it in a machine readable form?

In my mind I can remember writing utilities and scripts but as far as I know, I have no actual 
files that contain them.
I have a lot of "batch" files (.BAT) that rely on 16-bit utilities.  I have the 16-bit utilities, 
but would have to go to extremes to actually get to use them since I have switched to the 64-bit 
version of Windows.   (Maybe "DOSBOX" or a VM of a 32-bit Windows?).  Instead of that I have slowly 
been rewriting them in PowerShell.

I have a few "greenbar" printouts from decades ago of programs and at least they are still readable.

I need to be more conscious of archival opportunities going forwards.  Maybe the "cloud" is the 
key.  Maybe "Onedrive" ?
Of course you have to maintain credentials to access the "cloud".   And "free" today may not be 
"free" tomorrow.

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#215063 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromBob Eager <news0073@eager.cx>
Date2020-10-28 22:46 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<hvualeFu9nkU20@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#215060
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:17:03 -0500, Dallas wrote:

> On 10/28/2020 4:25 PM, Bob Eager wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:10:37 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:41:02 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>> I was looking for a KWIK indexer a while ago. They seem to have
>>>>> largely died out, replaced by text search.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> An interesting concept.  I had not known what it was until today
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_Word_in_Context
>>>>
>>>> KWAC  KWIC  KWOC
>>>
>>> I suspect that it would not be terribly difficult to cobble one up in
>>> any of a number of modern programming languages.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> I did. In REXX.
>> 
>> 
> Do you still have it in a machine readable form?
> 
> In my mind I can remember writing utilities and scripts but as far as I
> know, I have no actual files that contain them.
> I have a lot of "batch" files (.BAT) that rely on 16-bit utilities.  I
> have the 16-bit utilities, but would have to go to extremes to actually
> get to use them since I have switched to the 64-bit version of Windows. 
>  (Maybe "DOSBOX" or a VM of a 32-bit Windows?).  Instead of that I have
> slowly been rewriting them in PowerShell.
> 
> I have a few "greenbar" printouts from decades ago of programs and at
> least they are still readable.
> 
> I need to be more conscious of archival opportunities going forwards. 
> Maybe the "cloud" is the key.  Maybe "Onedrive" ?
> Of course you have to maintain credentials to access the "cloud".   And
> "free" today may not be "free" tomorrow.

I have the script and a sample input file.

I think I pushed the output file through Excel to get a pretty output, 
but that's just icing on the cake.

Let me know how to get it to you.



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#215118 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-11-01 07:38 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<slrnrpspep.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#215060
On Wed, 2020-10-28, Dallas wrote:
> On 10/28/2020 4:25 PM, Bob Eager wrote:
...
>> I did. In REXX.
>> 
>
> Do you still have it in a machine readable form?
>
> In my mind I can remember writing utilities and scripts but as far
> as I know, I have no actual files that contain them.  I have a lot
> of "batch" files (.BAT) that rely on 16-bit utilities.  I have the
> 16-bit utilities, but would have to go to extremes to actually get
> to use them since I have switched to the 64-bit version of Windows.
> (Maybe "DOSBOX" or a VM of a 32-bit Windows?).  Instead of that I
> have slowly been rewriting them in PowerShell.
>
> I have a few "greenbar" printouts from decades ago of programs and
> at least they are still readable.
>
> I need to be more conscious of archival opportunities going
> forwards.  Maybe the "cloud" is the key.  Maybe "Onedrive" ?  Of
> course you have to maintain credentials to access the "cloud".  And
> "free" today may not be "free" tomorrow.

If it can be public, GitHub (and/or similar Git-based services) is a
good choice.  When you archive the version history too, there's no
question about who has the most recent revision of anything.

/Jorgen

-- 
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#215058 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromBob Eager <news0073@eager.cx>
Date2020-10-28 21:24 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<hvu5stFu9nkU18@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#215043
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 10:36:14 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 09:01:35 -0500, Dallas wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/27/2020 6:40 PM, John Levine wrote:
>>>> In article <slrnrpgvr2.c4l.maus@dmaus.org>, maus  <maus@dmaus.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that not
>>>>>> too many people have.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> LaTeX again. I have never done it, but I have ambitions (\makeindex)
>>>> 
>>>> There are plenty of tools to handle the mechanics of sorting the
>>>> entries and making them look like an index. But none I've ever seen
>>>> that pick good index entries.
>>>> 
>>>> There are mechanical approaches like KWIC that index everything but a
>>>> set of trivial stopwords, but you get what you pay for.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> We called that a "crossreference" listing of program source back in
>>> the day.
>> 
>> Not a KWIC index, which is a bit more than that. KeyWord In Context -
>> it shows the key words in the context of the surrounding text (a few
>> words either side). I've generated these for my lecture notes in the
>> past, to make it easier for students to revise.
>> 
>> But I take your point about selecting the right words to index. I made
>> a list of 'stop' words and eliminated them, then manually pruned what
>> was left. I generated the KWIC index, and decided to prune a few more
>> words until it looked right.
>> 
>> Indexing is a proper occupation, and it would be good to "AI" it.
> 
> I was looking for a KWIK indexer a while ago. They seem to have largely
> died out, replaced by text search.

A text search across multiple sets of lecture notes would have been time 
consuming for the students. So I made raw index data that included a 
field for the lecture number. Then I generated a single KWIC index.

I wrote a REXX script to do it. Worked well.



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#215042 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<1321156835.625598805.455101.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#215035
Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
> On 10/27/2020 6:40 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> In article <slrnrpgvr2.c4l.maus@dmaus.org>, maus  <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>>>> I imagine that composing a really good index is a skill that not too many people have.
>>>> 
>>> LaTeX again. I have never done it, but I have ambitions (\makeindex)
>> 
>> There are plenty of tools to handle the mechanics of sorting the
>> entries and making them look like an index. But none I've ever seen
>> that pick good index entries.
>> 
>> There are mechanical approaches like KWIC that index everything but a
>> set of trivial stopwords, but you get what you pay for.
>> 
> 
> We called that a "crossreference" listing of program source back in the day.
> 
> I used "A.I." because I imagined something smart enough to do a good job
> generating the index.
> Something much better that a simple mechanical "crossreference".
> 
> 

That’s why I suggested using an automated procedure iteratively with manual
feedback in between.

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Pete

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