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Must-read computer folklore books

Started byThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
First post2020-09-05 09:43 +0000
Last post2020-10-20 07:41 -0500
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  Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 09:43 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2020-09-05 04:22 -0700
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Rick Umali <rickumali@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 13:44 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 16:45 +0100
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-05 16:22 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-05 18:33 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 21:43 +0100
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-05 20:02 +0100
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-05 17:19 -0500
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-09-06 00:15 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-05 18:32 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-07 11:27 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-05 18:02 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-09-05 17:31 -0300
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-05 18:24 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-05 18:30 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-05 19:58 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-05 21:49 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-08 21:10 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-05 17:38 -0700
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-06 08:56 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-09-06 01:31 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Iron Spring Software <Peter_Flass@Yahoo.com> - 2020-09-06 08:30 -0700
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-09-06 14:00 -0500
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 06:50 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-18 08:31 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-10-18 22:18 -0400
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> - 2020-10-19 05:06 +0100
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-09-10 22:01 +0100
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-10 16:12 -0700
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-09-10 20:53 -0700
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-11 06:48 -0700
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-11 19:22 +0000
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-12 12:32 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-09-11 11:03 -0500
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-18 03:11 -0500
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 08:17 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-18 09:24 +0100
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 08:25 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-18 03:27 -0500
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 08:32 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-18 10:06 +0100
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 13:09 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 09:13 +0000
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-18 09:26 +0000
              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-18 13:21 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-19 02:28 +0000
        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-18 19:52 -0700
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-19 15:02 +0000
          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-19 17:46 +0000
            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-19 17:56 +0000
              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-19 12:11 -0700
                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-19 19:26 +0000
                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-19 12:38 -0700
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-20 01:01 +0000
                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-21 22:03 +0000
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-10-21 23:54 -0500
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 07:03 -0500
                      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-22 13:02 +0000
                        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 08:25 -0500
                          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-22 13:30 +0000
                          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-22 14:18 +0000
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 09:34 -0500
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-22 16:14 +0000
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-22 10:18 -0700
                                Re: the wonders of FORTRAN, Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-22 17:46 +0000
                                  Re: the wonders of FORTRAN, Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-22 20:47 +0100
                                    Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 18:01 -0500
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-22 23:21 +0000
                                        Re: the wonders of FORTRAN J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 19:54 -0400
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 20:31 -0700
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2020-10-23 10:13 +0000
                                        Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Hook Bandit <hookbandit@gmail.com> - 2020-10-23 13:03 +0000
                                          Re: the wonders of FORTRAN J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-23 11:46 -0400
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-10-25 10:33 +0100
                                      Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 11:22 +0000
                                        Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-26 09:42 +0000
                                          Re: the wonders of FORTRAN Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-26 21:55 +0000
                                  Re: the wonders of FORTRAN, Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-23 10:52 +0000
                                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 12:08 -0700
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-22 18:32 +0000
                                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 13:53 -0500
                                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 13:01 -0700
                                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-22 16:17 -0500
                                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-10-24 09:57 +0300
                                      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-24 07:11 +0000
                                        Re: Must-read computer folklore books J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 07:22 -0400
                                          mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 08:59 -0500
                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-24 15:04 +0100
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 11:12 -0400
                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-24 15:04 +0100
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 10:59 -0500
                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-24 17:28 +0100
                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 13:03 -0500
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 14:28 -0400
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-24 19:41 +0100
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-24 14:10 -0500
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 17:51 -0400
                                                        Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-25 17:23 +0000
                                                          Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 17:56 +0000
                                                            Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-25 15:36 -0500
                                                            Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-26 09:37 +0000
                                                              Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 08:28 -0400
                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 13:18 -0400
                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-25 07:48 +0000
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 10:02 -0400
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 15:12 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-25 16:39 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 10:13 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 11:57 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-25 17:00 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-25 20:00 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-25 15:33 -0500
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-25 21:34 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 10:11 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 08:17 -0400
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-25 17:37 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-25 20:20 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-26 22:09 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 09:31 +0000
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 05:59 -0500
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 13:53 -0500
                                                                  Re: indexing, was mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 19:31 +0000
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 16:22 -0500
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-27 20:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 23:40 +0000
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 09:01 -0500
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 15:21 +0000
                                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 14:41 -0500
                                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:10 -0400
                                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 21:25 +0000
                                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 17:17 -0500
                                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 22:46 +0000
                                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-01 07:38 +0000
                                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-28 21:24 +0000
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 23:51 +0000
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-27 20:06 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-27 20:18 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 08:38 -0500
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 13:28 -0500
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 15:30 -0700
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:41 -0600
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-30 20:52 +0000
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-31 19:15 +0000
                                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-31 21:15 +0000
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 08:42 +0000
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-29 09:08 +0000
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 08:32 -0400
                                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-10-29 15:28 +0000
                                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 12:52 -0400
                                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-10-29 17:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 13:35 -0400
                                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-11-01 14:25 +0000
                                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-01 16:26 -0500
                                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 16:04 -0600
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:45 -0600
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-31 17:50 +0000
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read compu Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-19 20:47 +0100
                                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read compu Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-20 20:09 +0000
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-27 20:08 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 16:40 -0500
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-28 04:48 +0000
                                                  Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 02:17 -0700
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 10:06 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-26 10:43 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 11:07 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:48 -0500
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-26 18:05 +0000
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 14:29 -0500
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 19:58 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 15:50 -0500
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:40 -0500
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 14:32 +0000
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 09:28 +0000
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 18:29 +0000
                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-28 08:45 +0000
                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-10-28 05:29 -0500
                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 08:45 -0500
                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:06 -0500
                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 11:39 -0400
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-28 16:33 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-28 19:00 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 14:45 -0500
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:07 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-30 06:19 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:00 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 08:48 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:48 -0600
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2020-11-02 19:25 -0500
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 09:50 -0600
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 19:34 -0500
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 19:48 -0500
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 20:38 -0500
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 09:19 +0000
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 09:56 -0600
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-04 22:52 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-05 00:42 -0500
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-05 06:50 +0000
                                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-11-05 01:11 -0800
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-05 09:46 -0600
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-07 21:55 +0000
                                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-07 23:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-05 08:37 -0600
                                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-05 09:51 -0500
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Richard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2020-11-06 17:50 -0500
                                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-06 20:08 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-06 20:18 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-06 21:25 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-07 11:48 -0700
                                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-05 15:12 +0000
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-05 09:49 -0600
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-03 03:34 -0600
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-11-06 04:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-03 15:55 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-03 10:59 -0700
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-03 19:02 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-03 19:26 +0000
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-03 10:59 -0700
                                                                              Scout fires. Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 07:49 +0000
                                                                                Re: Scout fires. JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 09:56 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Scout fires. Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 17:11 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-28 14:23 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:08 -0400
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-10-28 23:40 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-29 00:39 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 22:19 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 22:11 -0500
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 22:13 -0500
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 22:25 -0500
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-10-29 07:38 +0000
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-29 05:50 -0500
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 08:31 -0400
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-29 07:41 -0500
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-29 08:33 +0000
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:44 -0600
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-29 06:03 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-29 12:10 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 13:29 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-29 13:42 -0400
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 13:55 -0400
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-29 18:51 +0000
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 21:37 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-10-29 17:44 -0500
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:59 -0600
                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-03 06:44 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-03 07:03 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-03 10:02 +0000
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-03 13:48 +0000
                                                                                      Asimov, was: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2020-11-03 13:56 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-03 14:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-03 15:27 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 15:57 +0000
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-03 16:44 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-03 18:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 09:52 -0600
                                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-03 18:46 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-11-03 19:38 -0400
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 18:48 -0500
                                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-04 00:59 +0000
                                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-03 20:40 -0500
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-04 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-04 13:36 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-04 19:37 +0000
                                                                                                    ouchies, was: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2020-11-04 20:45 +0000
                                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-04 23:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-04 13:35 +0000
                                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-04 18:28 +0000
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 20:43 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 16:51 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-10-30 10:54 +0100
                                                                    Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-28 14:20 -0400
                                                                      Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-29 08:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-10-29 12:04 -0400
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-29 12:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-29 17:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-29 18:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-29 11:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-10-29 16:58 -0300
                                                                        Re: tasty hand sanitizer, mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-29 18:59 +0000
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-26 11:37 +0000
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:35 -0500
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 17:20 -0500
                                                    Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-26 17:24 +0000
                                                      Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2020-10-26 23:27 +0000
                                                        mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 18:39 -0500
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 18:40 -0500
                                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 06:08 +0000
                                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:14 -0700
                                                                Re: APL, not mathematician equation markup? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: mathematician equation markup? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 17:53 -0400
                                                          Re: mathematician equation markup? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-27 17:38 +0000
                                                        Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-28 06:36 +0000
                                            Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-24 17:07 +0000
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-24 13:47 -0400
                                              Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-25 00:11 +0000
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 12:08 -0700
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 12:08 -0700
                          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-22 16:12 +0000
                          Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 12:08 -0700
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-22 17:23 -0400
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 19:35 -0700
                                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-10-23 08:37 +0000
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-22 19:35 -0700
                            Re: Must-read computer folklore books Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2020-10-26 22:09 -0400
                              Re: Must-read computer folklore books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-10-27 02:58 +0000
                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-19 14:31 -0500
                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-20 07:45 -0700
                  Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-20 18:20 +0000
                    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-20 14:19 -0700
                      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-20 21:41 +0000
                        Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-21 05:58 +0100
                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-20 02:02 +0000
                Re: Must-read computer folklore books Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-20 03:01 +0100
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-10-18 14:37 +0000
      Re: Must-read computer folklore books Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-19 06:05 +0000
    Re: Must-read computer folklore books "Massimo M." <massimo79m@gmail.com> - 2020-10-20 01:26 -0700
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#214886 — Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?)

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-25 15:36 -0500
SubjectRe: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?)
Message-ID<rn4nkd$bep$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#214882
On 10/25/2020 12:56 PM, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-10-25, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> writes:
>>>
>>> One of our new hires has the whole software engineering division
>>> (about a dozen of us) hooked up with Slack now for collaboration.
>>
>> Thirty years ago we used a local installation of Cnews for the same
>> purpose.  NNTP+SMTP.
>>
>> The primary newsgroup was 'risc.os.debug' (it was an 88100-based
>> system) and served exactly the same purpose as slack (but had the
>> additional benefit of supporting a dozen different client
>> applications (trn, tin, xrn, et alia)
> 
> Then there's IRC for a slightly different use case.
> But all open standards, where you have a choice of clients, seem
> unpopular today.
> At my last few workplaces we've used Lync/Skype for Business,
> and it's a fairly bad fit for a lot of things I want to do.
> /Jorgen
> 

The PowerShell Slack workspace is bridged to Discord and also at least one channel there is bridged 
to IRC as well.

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#214891 — Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?)

FromNiklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se>
Date2020-10-26 09:37 +0000
SubjectRe: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?)
Message-ID<hvnjn3F7uo6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#214882
On 2020-10-25, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>
> At my last few workplaces we've used Lync/Skype for Business,
> and it's a fairly bad fit for a lot of things I want to do.

Skype for Business was just awful. It appears to have been superseded
now by Teams, which is actually a substantial improvement.

Niklas
-- 
I knew someone who tried gargling with Stroh to cure his sore throat. Once
he regained the power of speech the next day, he claimed that it is indeed
very good at clearing up throat infections.
                       -- John Burnham

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#214904 — Re: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?)

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-26 08:28 -0400
SubjectRe: Collaboration tools (was Re: mathematician equation markup?)
Message-ID<h5gdpf97aus7m0qnkrs5eddt6i374ec4m7@4ax.com>
In reply to#214891
On 26 Oct 2020 09:37:39 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:

>On 2020-10-25, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>>
>> At my last few workplaces we've used Lync/Skype for Business,
>> and it's a fairly bad fit for a lot of things I want to do.
>
>Skype for Business was just awful. It appears to have been superseded
>now by Teams, which is actually a substantial improvement.

Teams actually works pretty well.  Of course Microsoft will continue
to "improve" it until it becomes worthless and then wonder what
happened and drop it.

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#214861 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-24 13:18 -0400
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<3qn8pf96vb11bf4bsape9arqkb7l7kstnr@4ax.com>
In reply to#214858
On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:59:47 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:

>On 10/24/2020 9:04 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 08:59:23 -0500
>> Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder if mathematicians have a plaintext syntax for equations.
>> 
>> 	Yep LaTeX.
>> 
>>> And if so, what is used for exponentiation in that syntax?
>>>
>>> The standard mathematician oriented expression syntax I am used to
>>> requires a vertical presentation where the exponent is raised visually
>>> above the base.   But how do mathematicians convey exponentiation in a
>>> plaintext forum like Usenet?
>> 
>> 	They'll use ** or ^ most likely, but for most of the things any
>> mathematician is likely to want to write plain text is just not going to
>> work. Integrals, summations, (partial) differential equations none of these
>> are going to be easy to represent or understand in plain text.
>> 
>
>Then using Usenet (or any character sequence messaging platform) for a mathematician must be 
>frustrating.
>
>Not that they can't share images via a lot of them, but the burden of composing the diagrams must 
>be hard.
>
>Maybe there is a sketch pad capable utility somewhere to make it feasible?

Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product.  This is not new, it's
been around since 1984 and has been used pretty much since that time.
It's pretty much the standard tool for the purpose among working
mathematicians. 

Various word processors also have some sort of attempt at math
formatting with varying degrees of success.  If you are willing to pay
177 bucks a year or shell out a hundred bucks or so for a Raspberry Pi
(hobby or self-instruction use only in either case) then Mathematica
becomes an option.

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#214871 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromNiklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se>
Date2020-10-25 07:48 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<hvkov1Fk91jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#214861
On 2020-10-24, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:59:47 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>
>>Then using Usenet (or any character sequence messaging platform) for a mathematician must be 
>>frustrating.
>
> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product.  This is not new, it's
> been around since 1984 and has been used pretty much since that time.
> It's pretty much the standard tool for the purpose among working
> mathematicians. 

There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". A version of it seems to be
installed by default on this Ubuntu machine I'm posting from. It
produces troff output.

I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
by this thread to read it.

Niklas
-- 
On the other hand, if you had a problem with a big SCSI RAID system,
could you fix it by crashing a truckload of goats into your data center?
                       -- Steve VanDevender

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#214875 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-25 10:02 -0400
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<541bpf92f9gjd21fkp7c6ios6g8jeohvve@4ax.com>
In reply to#214871
On 25 Oct 2020 07:48:49 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:

>On 2020-10-24, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:59:47 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>
>>>Then using Usenet (or any character sequence messaging platform) for a mathematician must be 
>>>frustrating.
>>
>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product.  This is not new, it's
>> been around since 1984 and has been used pretty much since that time.
>> It's pretty much the standard tool for the purpose among working
>> mathematicians. 
>
>There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". A version of it seems to be
>installed by default on this Ubuntu machine I'm posting from. It
>produces troff output.
>
>I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
>by this thread to read it.

Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
the submission requirements for mathematical journals indicates that
the general procedure is to submit for peer review in PDF and then for
publication in TeX.

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#214876 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-10-25 15:12 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<slrnrpb5ff.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#214875
On Sun, 2020-10-25, J  Clarke wrote:
> On 25 Oct 2020 07:48:49 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>
>>On 2020-10-24, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:59:47 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Then using Usenet (or any character sequence messaging platform) for a mathematician must be 
>>>>frustrating.
>>>
>>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product.  This is not new, it's
>>> been around since 1984 and has been used pretty much since that time.
>>> It's pretty much the standard tool for the purpose among working
>>> mathematicians. 
>>
>>There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". A version of it seems to be
>>installed by default on this Ubuntu machine I'm posting from. It
>>produces troff output.
>>
>>I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
>>by this thread to read it.
>
> Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
> what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
> the submission requirements for mathematical journals indicates that
> the general procedure is to submit for peer review in PDF and then for
> publication in TeX.

In a mathematical journal, yes. For publishing elsewhere, I expect the
editor will be equally puzzled by troff or TeX.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#214878 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2020-10-25 16:39 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<20201025163920.850c88a80c503ac2c1364e60@eircom.net>
In reply to#214876
On 25 Oct 2020 15:12:47 GMT
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:

> In a mathematical journal, yes. For publishing elsewhere, I expect the
> editor will be equally puzzled by troff or TeX.

	I'd expect any publisher with one or more mathematics titles to be
able to cope with TeX - I know Elsevier could when I was there 15 years ago
or so, I'm sure they still can. Author generated PDF is very much the
preferred form for review.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#214895 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

Frommaus <maus@dmaus.org>
Date2020-10-26 10:13 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<slrnrpd89m.69o.maus@dmaus.org>
In reply to#214876
On 2020-10-25, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-10-25, J  Clarke wrote:
>> On 25 Oct 2020 07:48:49 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2020-10-24, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:59:47 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Then using Usenet (or any character sequence messaging platform) for a mathematician must be 
>>>>>frustrating.
>>>>
>>>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product.  This is not new, it's
>>>> been around since 1984 and has been used pretty much since that time.
>>>> It's pretty much the standard tool for the purpose among working
>>>> mathematicians. 
>>>
>>>There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". A version of it seems to be
>>>installed by default on this Ubuntu machine I'm posting from. It
>>>produces troff output.
>>>
>>>I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
>>>by this thread to read it.
>>
>> Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
>> what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
>> the submission requirements for mathematical journals indicates that
>> the general procedure is to submit for peer review in PDF and then for
>> publication in TeX.
>
> In a mathematical journal, yes. For publishing elsewhere, I expect the
> editor will be equally puzzled by troff or TeX.
>
> /Jorgen


Some publications can wonder what LaTeX is..

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#214901 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

Frommaus <maus@dmaus.org>
Date2020-10-26 11:57 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<slrnrpdeck.aag.maus@dmaus.org>
In reply to#214895
On 2020-10-26, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
> On 2020-10-25, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2020-10-25, J  Clarke wrote:
>>> On 25 Oct 2020 07:48:49 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2020-10-24, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:59:47 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Then using Usenet (or any character sequence messaging platform) for a mathematician must be 
>>>>>>frustrating.
>>>>>
>>>>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product.  This is not new, it's
>>>>> been around since 1984 and has been used pretty much since that time.
>>>>> It's pretty much the standard tool for the purpose among working
>>>>> mathematicians. 
>>>>
>>>>There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". A version of it seems to be
>>>>installed by default on this Ubuntu machine I'm posting from. It
>>>>produces troff output.
>>>>
>>>>I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
>>>>by this thread to read it.
>>>
>>> Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
>>> what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
>>> the submission requirements for mathematical journals indicates that
>>> the general procedure is to submit for peer review in PDF and then for
>>> publication in TeX.
>>
>> In a mathematical journal, yes. For publishing elsewhere, I expect the
>> editor will be equally puzzled by troff or TeX.
>>
>> /Jorgen
>
>
> Some publications can wonder what LaTeX is..

It can cause some amusing confusion. In my recent forced dealing with
Nurses, one was wondering what I was at. She, as usual, confused the
uses of the word. I have not seen her since, thank god.  

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#214935 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<1125701836.625440910.827260.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#214895
maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
> On 2020-10-25, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2020-10-25, J  Clarke wrote:
>>> On 25 Oct 2020 07:48:49 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2020-10-24, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:59:47 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then using Usenet (or any character sequence messaging platform) for
>>>>>> a mathematician must be 
>>>>>> frustrating.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product.  This is not new, it's
>>>>> been around since 1984 and has been used pretty much since that time.
>>>>> It's pretty much the standard tool for the purpose among working
>>>>> mathematicians. 
>>>> 
>>>> There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". A version of it seems to be
>>>> installed by default on this Ubuntu machine I'm posting from. It
>>>> produces troff output.
>>>> 
>>>> I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
>>>> by this thread to read it.
>>> 
>>> Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
>>> what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
>>> the submission requirements for mathematical journals indicates that
>>> the general procedure is to submit for peer review in PDF and then for
>>> publication in TeX.
>> 
>> In a mathematical journal, yes. For publishing elsewhere, I expect the
>> editor will be equally puzzled by troff or TeX.
>> 
>> /Jorgen
> 
> 
> Some publications can wonder what LaTeX is..
> 

A version of TeX developed in Los Angeles? An Italian female version?

-- 
Pete

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#214879 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJohn Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date2020-10-25 17:00 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rn4avv$k2e$1@gal.iecc.com>
In reply to#214875
In article <541bpf92f9gjd21fkp7c6ios6g8jeohvve@4ax.com>,
J. Clarke  <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product. ...
>>
>>There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". ...

>Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
>what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
>the submission requirements for mathematical journals ...

The American Mathematical Society started using TeX in the early
1980s. As you might imagine, typesetting mathematical journals had
always been difficult and expensive. TeX made their life a lot easier.

As to why TeX rather than eqn, the output of TeX looks better than eqn
and in that era I think there still may have been licensing issues
with Unix software.

For other publishers, it varies a lot. Once I wrote a book in LaTeX
mostly to see if I could, about 25 years ago. Their production editor
didn't have any trouble with it and did the entire copy edit and
production in TeX.



-- 
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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#214883 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2020-10-25 20:00 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rn4lgq$hkk$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de>
In reply to#214879
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> schrieb:

> For other publishers, it varies a lot. Once I wrote a book in LaTeX
> mostly to see if I could, about 25 years ago. Their production editor
> didn't have any trouble with it and did the entire copy edit and
> production in TeX.

One professor I knew in passing (from a couple of conferences)
tought himself LaTeX in retirement (at the age of over 70) and
wrote a book with it.  He didn't have a computer background at all,
he was a chemical engineer and rheologist.

Then again, you need fairly heavy mathematics to write about
phenological rheology.

I have it at work, so I can't check right now, but I think the
book was published in 1994.

( https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-642-57953-0 in case
you were wondering).

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#214885 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-25 15:33 -0500
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rn4nfp$bep$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#214879
On 10/25/2020 12:00 PM, John Levine wrote:
> In article <541bpf92f9gjd21fkp7c6ios6g8jeohvve@4ax.com>,
> J. Clarke  <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product. ...
>>>
>>> There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". ...
> 
>> Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
>> what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
>> the submission requirements for mathematical journals ...
> 
> The American Mathematical Society started using TeX in the early
> 1980s. As you might imagine, typesetting mathematical journals had
> always been difficult and expensive. TeX made their life a lot easier.
> 
> As to why TeX rather than eqn, the output of TeX looks better than eqn
> and in that era I think there still may have been licensing issues
> with Unix software.
> 
> For other publishers, it varies a lot. Once I wrote a book in LaTeX
> mostly to see if I could, about 25 years ago. Their production editor
> didn't have any trouble with it and did the entire copy edit and
> production in TeX.
> 

And, FWIW, apparently Wikipedia uses a variation on LaTex

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Displaying_a_formula

"The version of LaTeX used is a subset of AMS-LaTeX markup, a superset of LaTeX markup which is in 
turn a superset of TeX markup, for mathematical formulas. Only a limited part of the full TeX 
language is supported ...."

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#214887 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromBob Eager <news0073@eager.cx>
Date2020-10-25 21:34 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<hvm9beFu9nkU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#214885
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 15:33:59 -0500, Dallas wrote:

> On 10/25/2020 12:00 PM, John Levine wrote:
>> In article <541bpf92f9gjd21fkp7c6ios6g8jeohvve@4ax.com>,
>> J. Clarke  <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product. ...
>>>>
>>>> There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". ...
>> 
>>> Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
>>> what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
>>> the submission requirements for mathematical journals ...
>> 
>> The American Mathematical Society started using TeX in the early 1980s.
>> As you might imagine, typesetting mathematical journals had always been
>> difficult and expensive. TeX made their life a lot easier.
>> 
>> As to why TeX rather than eqn, the output of TeX looks better than eqn
>> and in that era I think there still may have been licensing issues with
>> Unix software.
>> 
>> For other publishers, it varies a lot. Once I wrote a book in LaTeX
>> mostly to see if I could, about 25 years ago. Their production editor
>> didn't have any trouble with it and did the entire copy edit and
>> production in TeX.
>> 
>> 
> And, FWIW, apparently Wikipedia uses a variation on LaTex
> 
>      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Displaying_a_formula
> 
> "The version of LaTeX used is a subset of AMS-LaTeX markup, a superset
> of LaTeX markup which is in turn a superset of TeX markup, for
> mathematical formulas. Only a limited part of the full TeX language is
> supported ...."

I used Lotus Ami Pro for years.

The file save format was mostly ASCII (except for images).

But the equation save format was LaTeX.



-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
 http://www.mirrorservice.org

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#214894 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

Frommaus <maus@dmaus.org>
Date2020-10-26 10:11 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<slrnrpd86l.69o.maus@dmaus.org>
In reply to#214875
On 2020-10-25, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 25 Oct 2020 07:48:49 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>
>>On 2020-10-24, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:59:47 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Then using Usenet (or any character sequence messaging platform) for a mathematician must be 
>>>>frustrating.
>>>
>>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product.  This is not new, it's
>>> been around since 1984 and has been used pretty much since that time.
>>> It's pretty much the standard tool for the purpose among working
>>> mathematicians. 
>>
>>There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". A version of it seems to be
>>installed by default on this Ubuntu machine I'm posting from. It
>>produces troff output.
>>
>>I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
>>by this thread to read it.
>
> Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
> what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
> the submission requirements for mathematical journals indicates that
> the general procedure is to submit for peer review in PDF and then for
> publication in TeX.
>

LaTeX? 

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#214902 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-26 08:17 -0400
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<9ifdpft2ceodv61ie2e11np99dar4177go@4ax.com>
In reply to#214894
On 26 Oct 2020 10:11:33 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:

>On 2020-10-25, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 25 Oct 2020 07:48:49 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2020-10-24, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:59:47 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Then using Usenet (or any character sequence messaging platform) for a mathematician must be 
>>>>>frustrating.
>>>>
>>>> Google "LaTeX", which is not a rubber product.  This is not new, it's
>>>> been around since 1984 and has been used pretty much since that time.
>>>> It's pretty much the standard tool for the purpose among working
>>>> mathematicians. 
>>>
>>>There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". A version of it seems to be
>>>installed by default on this Ubuntu machine I'm posting from. It
>>>produces troff output.
>>>
>>>I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
>>>by this thread to read it.
>>
>> Not arguing, but as a point of information if you intend to submit
>> what you are writing for publication, you want TeX.  A quick look at
>> the submission requirements for mathematical journals indicates that
>> the general procedure is to submit for peer review in PDF and then for
>> publication in TeX.
>>
>
>LaTeX? 

One said "preferably" but that any TeX would be acceptable.

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#214881 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-10-25 17:37 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<slrnrpbduk.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#214871
On Sun, 2020-10-25, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
...
> There's also Brian Kernighan's "eqn". A version of it seems to be
> installed by default on this Ubuntu machine I'm posting from. It
> produces troff output.
>
> I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
> by this thread to read it.

Thanks!  Rick Umali recommended it in early September, and I would
have missed it if you didn't mention it again.

I must get that book.  People on Amazon complained about the low
editing quality (it being self-published) but the sample pages look
good.  He used groff to write and typeset it.

/Jorgen

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#214884 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2020-10-25 20:20 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<rn4mmr$ih8$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de>
In reply to#214881
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> schrieb:

> On Sun, 2020-10-25, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
...

>> I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
>> by this thread to read it.
>

> I must get that book.

I agree, as a reader of alt.folklore.computers it is a requirement :-)

> People on Amazon complained about the low
> editing quality (it being self-published) but the sample pages look
> good.

The text and graphs absolutely fine.  The pictures are rastered
and a bit low-contrast, maybe that's what people are griping about.
However, they are quite good enough.

As for style... maybe an editor would have changed some things about
the style, and I don't think that would have been for the better.
As it is, it is authentic.

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#214945 — Re: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-10-26 22:09 +0000
SubjectRe: mathematician equation markup? (was: Re: Must-read computer folklore books)
Message-ID<slrnrpei8v.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#214884
On Sun, 2020-10-25, Thomas Koenig wrote:
> Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> schrieb:
>
>> On Sun, 2020-10-25, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
> ...
>
>>> I read about it in Kernighan's Unix history/memoir, having been spurred
>>> by this thread to read it.
>>
>
>> I must get that book.
>
> I agree, as a reader of alt.folklore.computers it is a requirement :-)

Especially for a Unix guy.  The Bell Labs environment looks
interesting in general, based on the CSTR series of papers I've had
reason to read, on texts by Dennis Ritchie, and on Stroustrup's
"Design and Evolution of C++" where it is a lot of the background.

>> People on Amazon complained about the low
>> editing quality (it being self-published) but the sample pages look
>> good.
>
> The text and graphs absolutely fine.  The pictures are rastered
> and a bit low-contrast, maybe that's what people are griping about.
> However, they are quite good enough.

I remember two complaints and yes, the picture quality was one. The
other was the text didn't flow in the Kindle edition, which doesn't
affect me.

> As for style... maybe an editor would have changed some things about
> the style, and I don't think that would have been for the better.
> As it is, it is authentic.

/Jorgen

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  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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