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  DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-13 10:57 -0500
    Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Marco Scholz <tool@disroot.org> - 2021-01-13 17:09 +0000
      Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-13 20:11 -0500
        Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-01-14 08:13 +0000
          Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-14 15:35 -0500
      Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-01-14 01:49 -0800
        Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-15 09:45 +0000
          Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-01-15 11:04 -0800
            Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-15 18:12 -0500
              Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-15 22:10 -0500
                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-16 10:05 +0000
              Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-20 17:15 +0000
                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Robert Netzlof <rnetzlof@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 09:55 -0800
                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-20 20:14 +0000
                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-20 20:06 -0500
                  Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-21 02:30 +0000
                    Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-21 15:29 -0500
                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2021-02-23 21:49 +0000
                  Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-23 23:38 -0800
                    Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-24 09:27 -0700
                      Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 12:13 -0500
                      Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-02-24 17:13 +0000
                        Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 12:52 -0600
                    Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-24 17:33 +0000
                      Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 19:20 -0500
                        Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-25 21:06 -0500
                          Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2021-02-26 14:06 +0000
                            Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 17:21 -0500
                              Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 22:05 -0800
                                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2021-02-27 06:39 +0000
                                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 22:45 -0800
                                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-27 02:24 -0500
                                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:32 -0500
                            Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-26 20:55 -0500
                              Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2021-02-27 13:57 +0000
                                Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-27 09:43 -0500
                                  Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:23 -0500
                              Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-28 21:11 +0000
                              Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2021-03-14 19:57 +0000
                          Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 07:17 -0800
                            Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 15:23 +0000
                        Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 07:14 -0800
                          Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-26 19:42 +0000
                          Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-26 19:41 +0000
                            Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-27 01:19 -0800
                              Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-27 10:21 +0000
                      Re: DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-25 03:58 -0800

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#216281 — DEC wash better than you ordinary detergent

Watch here <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>, why Digital
Equipment's wash detergent is better than your ordinary detergent when it
comes to wash 8" diskettes.

Also note the wallpaper. *LOL*

I wonder what year this was recorded. Isn't mentioned in the comments.

I love fake ads.
-- 
Andreas

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#216282

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:57:02 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> Watch here <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>, why Digital
[...]

Don't forget DEC-Paste:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RvE4eRglbM

> I wonder what year this was recorded. Isn't mentioned in the comments.

"One of the four classic 1979 commercials featuring David Keller and
Dave Kasakitis of Digital Equipment Corporation's Useless Products
Group."

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#216302

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 17:09:12 +0000 (UTC), Marco Scholz wrote:
>
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:57:02 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>> Watch here <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>, why Digital
> [...]
>
> Don't forget DEC-Paste:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RvE4eRglbM
>
>> I wonder what year this was recorded. Isn't mentioned in the comments.
>
> "One of the four classic 1979 commercials featuring David Keller and
> Dave Kasakitis of Digital Equipment Corporation's Useless Products
> Group."

Thanks. Thought it was earlier in the 70s though.
-- 
Andreas

PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0

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#216304

Andreas Kohlbach wrote:

> Marco Scholz wrote:
>
>> Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>
>> 
>> "One of the four classic 1979 commercials [...]"
> 
> Thanks. Thought it was earlier in the 70s though.

I would too, but that was likely their intention.

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#216325

On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 08:13:18 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:
>
> Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> Marco Scholz wrote:
>>
>>> Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOphzme6EDw>
>>> "One of the four classic 1979 commercials [...]"
>> Thanks. Thought it was earlier in the 70s though.
>
> I would too, but that was likely their intention.

They making a video in 1979, looking like it takes place 1975? Shouldn't
be too many differences in only a few years.

And that 70s wallpaper got to stay forever! :-)
-- 
Andreas

PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0

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#216305

On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 10:09:16 AM UTC-7, Marco Scholz wrote:

> "One of the four classic 1979 commercials featuring David Keller and 
> Dave Kasakitis of Digital Equipment Corporation's Useless Products 
> Group."

And here are the other two:
Digibits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-_eCMA0X3w

DEC Checks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imrxhe0CP24

John Savard

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#216351

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> schrieb:

> Digibits
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-_eCMA0X3w

Did these commercials actually run?  And who were they aimed at?

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#216356

On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:

> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.

John Savard

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#216364

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:

> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:

>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.

> John Savard

Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.

Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,
California).  We were treated to tours of the nascent Computer History Museum,
and went through the blimp hangars looking for the SAIL PDP-6, which never
turned up.

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#216369

On 15 Jan 2021 18:12:15 -0500, Rich Alderson wrote:
>
> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>
>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>
>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>
> Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.

They showed a video criticizing their own brand?

Not directly related. But the Coca Cola Company was "hacking" Space
Invaders for the Atari 2600. Just changing sprites (okay, the A2600
didn't really used sprites) of five of the six columns of the aliens to
P E P S I and left the sixth line intact. So the player shot at PEPSI. :-)
The game was known as "Pepsi Invaders" and "Coke Wins". According to
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_Invaders> it's one of the rarest
games for the A2600 and scored up to $1,825 on eBay.

Playing it now (no, I didn't bid on eBay ;-) they changed also the UFO on
top into a crude Pepsi logo. You also have unlimited lives but play
against a counter.
-- 
Andreas

PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0

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#216372

Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> schrieb:
> On 15 Jan 2021 18:12:15 -0500, Rich Alderson wrote:
>>
>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>
>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>
>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>>
>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>>
>> Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>
> They showed a video criticizing their own brand?

These "commercials" certainly weren't critical of DEC.  They spoofed
well-known ads of the time.

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#216427

Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>
>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>
>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>
>> John Savard
>
>Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>
>Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
>Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,

Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago.   The only time U-2
would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows.  The U-2's
fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.

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#216429

On Wednesday, January 20, 2021 at 12:15:41 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Rich Alderson <ne...@alderson.users.panix.com> writes: 
> Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter 
> squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago. The only time U-2 
> would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows. The U-2's 
> fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.

In the 1930s and '40s, Moffett Field was home to a fleet of naval blimps. Indeed, that was its original purpose.

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#216436

On Wed, 20 Jan 2021 17:15:39 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>>Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>>
>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>>
>>Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>>
>>Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held at
>>Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain View,
>
>Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
>squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago.   The only time U-2
>would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows.  The U-2's
>fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.

I believe there were occasional U-2 flights out of Moffett in the late '80s.  It
wasn't a regular thing, unlike the P-3 touch and goes.

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#216447

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

> Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:

>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:

>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?

>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.

>>> John Savard

>> Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.

>> Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held
>> at Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain
>> View,

> Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
> squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago.   The only time U-2
> would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows.  The U-2's
> fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.

I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended
several Naval air shows there.  It was also home to Onizuka Air Force Base,
which suddenly appeared on highway signs after the fall of the Berlin Wall; it
was the big windwless cube surrounded by dozens of satellite antennae off in
one corner of the facility.

There were more than a few U-2 flights out of Moffett.  They were one of the
worst kept secrets around; people used to stay up late to watch the Goonie
Birds take off for entertainment.

The P-3's were a lot of fun.

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#216448

Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>
>> Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:
>>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>
>>>> On Friday, January 15, 2021 at 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
>>>>> Did these commercials actually run? And who were they aimed at?
>
>>>> They weren't shown on television. Apparently they were used internally
>>>> at some sort of Digial event to amuse the attendees.
>
>>>> John Savard
>
>>> Presumably DECworld, an annual sales meeting.
>
>>> Len Bosack and I attended DECworld 2001, a DEC reunion event which was held
>>> at Moffett Field (the then recently decommissioned U-2 airfield in Mountain
>>> View,
>
>> Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple of P-3 subhunter
>> squadrons before being decommissioned twenty years ago.   The only time U-2
>> would have used it would be for emergency landings or air shows.  The U-2's
>> fly out of Beale AFB near Sacramento.
>
>I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended

As did I (Mathilda & Central).   I used to take my scanners over the day
before the airshow and sit on the access road at the end of the runway
(gone now, replaced by light rail tracks) and listen to the tower while
watching the planes land.

The C-5As coming in during the first gulf war could be heard (loudly) while
still over Los Gatos.  Really sucked at 0200.  Usually had navy pilots for
neighbors.


>There were more than a few U-2 flights out of Moffett.  They were one of the
>worst kept secrets around; people used to stay up late to watch the Goonie
>Birds take off for entertainment.

I didn't see any myself, except for airshows.
>
>The P-3's were a lot of fun.

Indeed.  Playing golf on sunnyvale municipal one could almost hit them with
an errant drive.

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#216460

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

> Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> writes:

>> I lived within walking distance of Moffett Field from 1984-1993, and attended

> As did I (Mathilda & Central).

1885 California (corner of Escuela, about 4 blocks logical south of Rengstorff).

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#217105

scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:


>Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
>of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
>years ago.

And more recently, CANG  129th and 130th Wings

>The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
>landings or air shows.  The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
>Sacramento.



-- 
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

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#217107

David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> writes:

> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>
>
>>Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
>>of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
>>years ago.
>
> And more recently, CANG  129th and 130th Wings
>
>>The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
>>landings or air shows.  The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
>>Sacramento.

I was waiting in line at a sandwich shop in Lincoln, CA and saw an air
force pilot ahead of me with the U2 badge on his shoulder. I checked his
rank and wings.

Asked him if it was him who was doing patter flying at Mather Airport
the previous day. Indeed it was. I pulled out my smartphone (back then i
had a smartphone) and showed him a video I made of him flying. It didn't
phase him, as he's used to that.

Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.

-- 
Daniel
Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world

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#217113

Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> wrote:
> David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> writes:
> 
>> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
>> 
>> 
>>> Moffett Field was a Naval Air Station, which hosted a couple
>>> of P-3 subhunter squadrons before being decommissioned twenty
>>> years ago.
>> 
>> And more recently, CANG  129th and 130th Wings
>> 
>>> The only time U-2 would have used it would be for emergency
>>> landings or air shows.  The U-2's fly out of Beale AFB near
>>> Sacramento.
> 
> I was waiting in line at a sandwich shop in Lincoln, CA and saw an air
> force pilot ahead of me with the U2 badge on his shoulder. I checked his
> rank and wings.
> 
> Asked him if it was him who was doing patter flying at Mather Airport
> the previous day. Indeed it was. I pulled out my smartphone (back then i
> had a smartphone) and showed him a video I made of him flying. It didn't
> phase him, as he's used to that.
> 
> Anyway, the U2 is my favorite military aircraft and whenever I fly above
> Beale AFB, I make a point to look for U2's flying below me.
> 

I loved watching the U2 fly, it was so graceful. I gather for pilots it was
only slightly more comfortable than flying a broomstick.

-- 
Pete

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