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Too much for one lifetime? :-)

Started bygareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com>
First post2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
Last post2021-02-24 05:32 -0800
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  Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "A.T. Murray" <mentificium@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 12:39 -0800
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 20:59 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2021-01-13 13:16 -0800
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:18 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 11:45 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-14 10:06 -0600
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:16 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2021-01-14 15:04 -0500
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 10:16 +0000
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:56 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 15:42 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:12 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 18:43 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 19:50 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 21:38 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 18:54 -0500
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-15 00:11 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-15 01:00 +0000
                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 23:32 -0500
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-15 21:56 -0500
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-14 16:00 -0500
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 14:07 -0500
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 21:20 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-14 18:01 -0400
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 23:41 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-15 02:21 -0400
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 11:00 +0000
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 11:59 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-17 17:44 +0000
                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 19:10 +0000
                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 11:42 +0000
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-18 12:29 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 10:23 -0500
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-18 12:12 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-18 09:17 -0600
                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:07 +0000
                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:14 +0000
                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-19 10:21 +0000
                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 11:17 +0000
                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-19 12:13 -0600
                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 21:39 +0000
                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-19 18:08 -0500
                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-20 04:22 -0600
                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-21 07:44 +0000
                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-22 17:49 -0700
                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-23 15:24 +0000
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-23 20:24 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-24 12:49 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-24 13:13 +0000
                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-24 22:30 -0500
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 07:00 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 21:56 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 09:35 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:51 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 04:41 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:03 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 07:03 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 09:50 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:34 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:29 -0600
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:53 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 19:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 20:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2021-01-27 13:00 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:39 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 17:39 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:51 -0500
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-30 09:56 +0000
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 15:46 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 17:52 +0000
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-25 18:30 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 18:37 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 19:33 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 01:37 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:58 -0500
                                                      Re: just in case, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 18:57 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:14 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:59 +0100
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:22 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 18:09 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:19 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:27 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:34 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:48 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-25 15:45 -0600
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 19:20 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Joacim Melin <Joacim.Melin@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> - 2021-01-25 20:33 +0200
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:12 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 03:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:42 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 22:11 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-27 08:36 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:52 -0600
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-29 23:19 +0200
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 21:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:19 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:48 +0100
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:26 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-30 20:06 +0000
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 14:38 -0600
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:47 -0400
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:50 -0600
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:14 -0500
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 15:55 -0500
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 20:13 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 09:48 -0600
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:44 -0400
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 01:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 13:05 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 12:29 -0500
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:17 +0000
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:42 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 22:21 -0400
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:40 +0100
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-30 16:04 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 16:06 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 21:35 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-01 16:54 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-02-01 09:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-01 18:12 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 16:02 -0700
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 01:47 +0000
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:23 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 09:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 10:16 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:21 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 11:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:23 -0500
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:35 -0500
                                                Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 04:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-25 23:32 -0500
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2021-01-26 04:58 -0800
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 13:18 +0000
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:55 +0000
                                                  Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 05:12 -0500
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 11:59 +0100
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:58 +0000
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 15:10 +0100
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 19:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:59 -0500
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-27 07:44 +0100
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:54 -0500
                                                            Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:20 +0000
                                                              Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-28 11:06 +0100
                                                                Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 08:42 -0500
                                                                  Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 15:26 +0000
                                                                    Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
                                                                      Re: Learning European languages lawrence <lawrence@cluon.com> - 2021-01-28 12:54 -0600
                                                                        Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:06 +0000
                                                                      Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:45 -0500
                                                                    Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-20 18:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-20 13:12 -0500
                                                                        Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-21 15:36 +0100
                                                                          Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-21 17:49 -0500
                                                                Re: Learning European languages Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2021-01-29 01:47 +0000
                                                                  Re: Learning European languages Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-31 18:09 +0200
                                                              Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 10:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 11:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:50 -0500
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:56 +0000
                                                  Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-26 22:23 +0000
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 23:15 -0500
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 00:06 -0500
                                                      Re: Learning European languages JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:58 -0600
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:17 -0500
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 16:03 -0500
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
                                                            Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 23:06 -0400
                                                              Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
                                                                Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:34 -0400
                                                                Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:58 -0500
                                                                  Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
                                                            Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 23:30 -0500
                                                        Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:24 -0500
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
                                                        Re: Learning European languages "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 22:44 -0400
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 20:01 -0500
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 19:48 +0000
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 20:02 +0000
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 12:03 -0600
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:34 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) jolomo@gmail.com (Joe Morris) - 2021-01-26 19:17 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:46 -0600
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:26 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:35 +0000
                                                          Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:46 -0500
                                                            Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:10 +0000
                                                              Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:04 -0600
                                                              Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:16 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:47 -0600
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:12 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:30 -0600
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 15:52 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:57 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:43 -0600
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 20:49 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:31 -0400
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 00:10 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:34 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:01 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:21 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:31 -0500
                                                        Re: linguistic miracles, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 19:13 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-26 14:05 -0600
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 16:34 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:57 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:55 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-30 04:58 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:56 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:32 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 12:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 13:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-29 04:05 -0600
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:45 -0400
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:55 -0600
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 19:45 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 16:00 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 19:00 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:43 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:10 -0600
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 16:19 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 14:37 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 20:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:16 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 12:18 +0000
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-29 10:21 -0600
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-29 17:04 +0000
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-29 17:15 +0000
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:14 +0000
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:58 -0700
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-29 14:38 -0600
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 21:02 +0000
                                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 14:09 -0600
                                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-31 00:09 +0000
                                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 20:27 -0600
                                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-31 05:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-31 01:37 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 21:18 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 21:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:38 -0500
                                                    Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:27 +0000
                                                      Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:42 +0000
                                                        Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:45 +0000
                                                          Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2021-02-01 15:00 +0100
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 09:39 +0100
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 14:22 -0800
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-26 22:40 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-26 23:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-02-27 10:43 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:22 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-28 20:59 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-28 22:50 -0500
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:09 +0000
                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-02 02:02 +0100
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-02-02 04:38 -0600
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 11:20 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 17:16 +0000
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:04 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-19 17:58 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 22:47 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:12 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-23 22:04 -0800
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-24 09:27 -0700
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-24 17:33 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 19:23 -0500
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 00:05 -0500
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 12:51 -0600
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-24 17:23 -0400
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 15:45 -0600
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-25 05:03 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 09:59 -0600
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-25 16:52 +0000
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2021-02-25 19:38 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-25 19:44 -0400
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-25 21:46 -0500
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-26 05:19 +0000
                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:59 +0000
                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-26 20:53 -0500
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-27 10:51 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-27 11:19 +0000
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:17 -0500
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 13:52 -0600
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-02-26 10:53 -1000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:29 -0700
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:56 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:27 -0500
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-09-29 17:34 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 13:32 -0500
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:50 -0400
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:10 -0500
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 19:54 +0100
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:48 -0400
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:51 -0400
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:03 -0400
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:33 -0400
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:56 +0000
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> - 2021-01-31 05:32 -0800
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 15:58 +0000
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 21:27 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 22:11 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 22:50 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:08 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 17:49 +0000
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 18:41 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 19:01 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-31 19:32 -0400
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 09:24 -0600
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 11:45 -0700
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-01 21:34 +0000
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 18:19 -0500
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 01:13 -0500
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 06:50 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:12 -0500
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 09:21 -0600
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800

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#216702 — Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages)

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2021-01-29 16:34 -0400
SubjectRe: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages)
Message-ID<87ft2jlbxl.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#216698
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

> Another thing I hate is this obsessive belief that every noun
> can (and should) be verbed, when perfectly good verbs already
> exist.  "Keyboarding" is one of the worst.  But I've never
> seen it adverbed before.

PKB, but you knew that. ;-)


> I'm not too sure what to think about this, although it probably
> falls into that discussion about humour in _The Moon Is a Harsh
> Mistress_, where jokes were divided into "funny once" and "funny
> always" categories.
> 
>     Manny: Use it once, you're a wit.
>            Use it twice, you're a half-wit.
>     Mike:  Geometric progression?
>     Manny: Or worse.

Yes.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#216713 — Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages)

FromRich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com>
Date2021-01-29 19:58 -0500
SubjectRe: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages)
Message-ID<mdd1re3ckb4.fsf@panix5.panix.com>
In reply to#216698
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

> I've heard that some Spanish speakers are working on gender-neutral forms in
> their language.  We need that here.

Mostly "woke" non-Spanish speakers, actually.

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#216736 — Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages)

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
SubjectRe: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages)
Message-ID<1005330639.633739185.595548.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#216713
Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> 
>> I've heard that some Spanish speakers are working on gender-neutral forms in
>> their language.  We need that here.
> 
> Mostly "woke" non-Spanish speakers, actually.
> 

Sort of like “Latinx,” which, I understand most Latinos/Latinas seem to
dislike, and is not recognized as Spanish in Spain.

-- 
Pete

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#216689 — Re: Learning European languages

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-28 23:30 -0500
SubjectRe: Learning European languages
Message-ID<ev271g1i6uaindq3std0l788nut7lknd0u@4ax.com>
In reply to#216684
On 28 Jan 2021 23:00:58 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2021-01-28, Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> wrote:
>
>> The one that keeps grinding my gut is "shined" for "shone", as in "The
>> ensemble shined in their performance".  There are two verbs "to shine",
>> just as there are two verbs "to hang", one intransitive and one transitive.
>> They are differentiated by strong vs. weak conjugation ("irregular" vs.
>> "regular" verbs):
>>
>> 1.  They hanged him for treason.  He hung on the tree until he rotted.
>> 2.  He shined his shoes.  They shone like diamonds.
>
>Which one is being used in the movie _The Shining_?  <g,d&r>
>
>The one that bothers me is when people talk about "an email".
>"Email", being derived from "mail", should be a collective noun.

Just an aside--I'm flashing on Agatha Heterodyne's first social
encounter with the Jagerkin.  Three of them have been hanged.
Apparently they have been hanging for two days or so when she
encounters them.  They are having a conversation about how angry
someone (we don't find out who until later) is going to be with them.
Jagerkin are tough.

<https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20050513>

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#216681 — Re: Learning European languages

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-28 16:24 -0500
SubjectRe: Learning European languages
Message-ID<rfa61g18qvdp38ksilf7hq4usb06ufj1b2@4ax.com>
In reply to#216669
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:13:38 -0700, Peter Flass
<peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>> On 26 Jan 2021 22:23:43 GMT, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 2021-01-26, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> I could of course have immersed myself in German literature and whatnot
>>>> as well, but could never quite work up the motivation. What was
>>>> available in English generally interested me more, and I was already up
>>>> to speed on that language.
>>> 
>>> Two things I have always wanted to read in German:
>>> 
>>> - Werner Rauh's "Beitrag zur kennits der peruanischer Kakteenvegetation"
>>                                ^^^^^^^ Kenntniss
>>                                
>> Really? That translates to something like
>> 
>> Werner Rauhs "Article about the acknowledgment (or his knowledge?) of
>> the cactus vegetation".
>
>Maybe “Report.”
>
>> 
>> Sounds like a very dry topic even Germans might have problems to digest,
>> unless they deal with cactusses (cannot figure out the English plural).
>
>Cacti, although English is gradually losing special forms, so cactuses
>works too. Likewise “dived” instead of “dove”, “pleaded” instead of “pled”,
>etc. Datum as the singular of data is pretty much dead. I’m a language
>prig, so it drives me crazy.

And conversely, while not something you would do in formal writing, in
conversation any noun that ends with a vowel and "s" can probably be
pluralized to humorous and comprehensible effect with an i.  Like
there was a notice on the bulletin board in the AE department at OSU,
that the FAA was looking for people to work in a biometric research
program.  It was long and dry and written in opaque governmentese. The
first person to figure out what the job was summarized it as "Oh,
measuring stewardi".  

>> I see it's from 1958. Amazon seems to have it for around 80€ as book or
>> 36€ as E-book.

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#216685 — Re: Learning European languages

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
SubjectRe: Learning European languages
Message-ID<ruvfna12o2t@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#216681
On 2021-01-28, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:13:38 -0700, Peter Flass
> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Cacti, although English is gradually losing special forms, so cactuses
>> works too. Likewise “dived” instead of “dove”, “pleaded” instead of “pled”,
>> etc. Datum as the singular of data is pretty much dead. I’m a language
>> prig, so it drives me crazy.
>
> And conversely, while not something you would do in formal writing, in
> conversation any noun that ends with a vowel and "s" can probably be
> pluralized to humorous and comprehensible effect with an i.  Like
> there was a notice on the bulletin board in the AE department at OSU,
> that the FAA was looking for people to work in a biometric research
> program.  It was long and dry and written in opaque governmentese. The
> first person to figure out what the job was summarized it as "Oh,
> measuring stewardi".  

A friend pluralizes "doofus" as "doofi".

Then there's the famous Wayne and Shuster sketch
_Rinse the Blood Off My Toga_, where they played it backwards:

    Bartender: What're you drinking?
    Flavius:   Gimme a martinus.
    Bartender: You mean a martini.
    Flavius:   If I wanted two I'd ask for them.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's a sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)

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#216682 — Re: Learning European languages

From"Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1>
Date2021-01-28 22:12 +0000
SubjectRe: Learning European languages
Message-ID<XnsACC0E1FDA66D7admin127001@144.76.35.252>
In reply to#216669
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:13:38 GMT, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
wrote: 

> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>> On 26 Jan 2021 22:23:43 GMT, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 2021-01-26, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> I could of course have immersed myself in German literature and
>>>> whatnot as well, but could never quite work up the motivation. What
>>>> was available in English generally interested me more, and I was
>>>> already up to speed on that language.
>>> 
>>> Two things I have always wanted to read in German:
>>> 
>>> - Werner Rauh's "Beitrag zur kennits der peruanischer
>>> Kakteenvegetation" 
>>                                ^^^^^^^ Kenntniss
>>                                
>> Really? That translates to something like
>> 
>> Werner Rauhs "Article about the acknowledgment (or his knowledge?) of
>> the cactus vegetation".
> 
> Maybe “Report.”
> 
>> 
>> Sounds like a very dry topic even Germans might have problems to
>> digest, unless they deal with cactusses (cannot figure out the
>> English plural). 
> 
> Cacti, although English is gradually losing special forms, so cactuses
> works too. Likewise “dived” instead of “dove”, “pleaded”
> instead of “pled”, etc. Datum as the singular of data is pretty
> much dead. I’m a language prig, so it drives me crazy.
> 
I'm a 7-bit ASCII Prig.
>> 
>> I see it's from 1958. Amazon seems to have it for around 80€ as
>> book or 36€ as E-book.
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

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#216687 — Re: Learning European languages

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2021-01-28 22:44 -0400
SubjectRe: Learning European languages
Message-ID<87o8h8laxb.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#216669
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:

> Cacti, although English is gradually losing special forms, so
> cactuses works too. Likewise "dived" instead of "dove", "pleaded"
> instead of "pled", etc. Datum as the singular of data is pretty much
> dead. 

Not to mention "medium".

> I'm a language prig, so it drives me crazy.

Same.  Irregular verbs [1] and Latinate plurals are both vanishing breeds.
OTOH,  a university friend was, back circa '67, was mildly ridiculed for
referring to "musea" is public speaking.


[1] I'm keeping a list,  Be warned. ;-)

    cleaved    (not clove; Robert Reich)
    dived      (Dove alleged to be US neologism, dived orig. Brit-correct.)
    kneeled    (not knelt, news media re, NFL)
    strived    (G&M, 27 Jan 2011; Sep 2017)
    shine      (eyes shined, Martrin Cruz Smith, _Three Stations_)
    shrinked   (Bob Eager, a.f.c)
    shoed      (v.tr. instead of shod, as of a horse)
    thrived    (Bloomberg, 2018)
    treaded    (Texas Tribune, 12/2020; telegraph.co.uk)
    weaved     (several instances)

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#216714 — Re: Learning European languages

FromRich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com>
Date2021-01-29 20:01 -0500
SubjectRe: Learning European languages
Message-ID<mddy2gbb5lx.fsf@panix5.panix.com>
In reply to#216687
Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:

> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > Cacti, although English is gradually losing special forms, so
> > cactuses works too. Likewise "dived" instead of "dove", "pleaded"
> > instead of "pled", etc. Datum as the singular of data is pretty much
> > dead. 
> 
> Not to mention "medium".
> 
> > I'm a language prig, so it drives me crazy.
> 
> Same.  Irregular verbs [1] and Latinate plurals are both vanishing breeds.
> OTOH,  a university friend was, back circa '67, was mildly ridiculed for
> referring to "musea" is public speaking.
> 
> 
> [1] I'm keeping a list,  Be warned. ;-)
> 
>     cleaved    (not clove; Robert Reich)
>     dived      (Dove alleged to be US neologism, dived orig. Brit-correct.)
>     kneeled    (not knelt, news media re, NFL)
>     strived    (G&M, 27 Jan 2011; Sep 2017)
>     shine      (eyes shined, Martrin Cruz Smith, _Three Stations_)
>     shrinked   (Bob Eager, a.f.c)
>     shoed      (v.tr. instead of shod, as of a horse)
>     thrived    (Bloomberg, 2018)
>     treaded    (Texas Tribune, 12/2020; telegraph.co.uk)
>     weaved     (several instances)

All of those.  Ye gods and little fishes.

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#216757 — Re: Learning European languages

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2021-01-31 19:48 +0000
SubjectRe: Learning European languages
Message-ID<slrns1e2cv.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#216587
On Wed, 2021-01-27, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2021 22:23:43 GMT, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2021-01-26, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>> ...
>>> I could of course have immersed myself in German literature and whatnot
>>> as well, but could never quite work up the motivation. What was
>>> available in English generally interested me more, and I was already up
>>> to speed on that language.
>>
>> Two things I have always wanted to read in German:
>>
>> - Werner Rauh's "Beitrag zur kennits der peruanischer Kakteenvegetation"
>                                ^^^^^^^ Kenntniss
>                                
> Really? That translates to something like
>
> Werner Rauhs "Article about the acknowledgment (or his knowledge?) of
> the cactus vegetation".

I dug the title up from an old text file; it must be wrong there, too.

I think it translates to: "A contribution to the knowledge of ...".
Here's another example:

    Beiträge zur Kenntnis der Vegetationsgeschichte der Umgebung von
    Bern unter besonderer Berücksichtigung der Späteiszeit.

Or "Contributions to ...".

> Sounds like a very dry topic even Germans might have problems to digest,
> unless they deal with cactusses (cannot figure out the English plural).
>
> I see it's from 1958. Amazon seems to have it for around 80€ as book or
> 36€ as E-book.

Thanks. I guess I'm not that interested, after all -- this is really
an ex-hobby of mine.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#216667 — Re: Learning European languages

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
SubjectRe: Learning European languages
Message-ID<78950629.633555338.762657.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#216562
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-01-26, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
> ...
>> I could of course have immersed myself in German literature and whatnot
>> as well, but could never quite work up the motivation. What was
>> available in English generally interested me more, and I was already up
>> to speed on that language.
> 
> Two things I have always wanted to read in German:
> 
> - Werner Rauh's "Beitrag zur kennits der peruanischer Kakteenvegetation"
> - anything by Ernst Jünger not translated to Swedish (I try to avoid
>   translations to English; I don't know the translation conventions there)

Eclectic choices!

-- 
Pete

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#216759 — Re: Learning European languages

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2021-01-31 20:02 +0000
SubjectRe: Learning European languages
Message-ID<slrns1e36r.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#216667
On Thu, 2021-01-28, Peter Flass wrote:
> Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2021-01-26, Niklas Karlsson wrote:
>> ...
>>> I could of course have immersed myself in German literature and whatnot
>>> as well, but could never quite work up the motivation. What was
>>> available in English generally interested me more, and I was already up
>>> to speed on that language.
>> 
>> Two things I have always wanted to read in German:
>> 
>> - Werner Rauh's "Beitrag zur kennits der peruanischer Kakteenvegetation"
>> - anything by Ernst Jünger not translated to Swedish (I try to avoid
>>   translations to English; I don't know the translation conventions there)
>
> Eclectic choices!

Or maybe it's sad that you can have a dozen of interests, and only two
of them can be helped (slightly) by knowing German.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#216538

FromJimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-26 12:03 -0600
Message-ID<77m01g1f5mpdnht60ih6ka5eqodn4bts1v@4ax.com>
In reply to#216516
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:35:07 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach
<ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:02:37 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
>>
>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Has the EU solved the “official language” problem yet? I read somewhere
>>>> that Gaelic is the official language of Ireland ( maybe co-equal  with
>>>> English?) and with BREXIT that left no EU member whose official language
>>>> was English, so it was no longer an official language of the EU. 
>>> 
>>> There is no language problem in the EU. English is and was the language
>>> of business and IT, and that is unlikely to change.
>>> 
>>> I heard that if you want to work in an office at Nestle in Switzerland
>>> speaking any of the four Swiss languages (German, French, Italian and
>>> Romansh, sorted by numbers of speakers) won't help. You need to speak
>>> English.
>>> 
>>> But if you want to have a "new official language" in the EU you might
>>> have to look at German. 
>>
>> Somewhere I read that official EU documents have to be published in the
>> official language of each of the member states. If no country has English
>> as its official language then English is no longer required.
>
>The EU has still a long way ahead to become one country. So documents are
>handled like in the past X hundred year inside of every country. That
>might be different in the European parliament. Am guessing here and
>assume they are issued in all languages of the members of the EU. Some
>countries, like Germany, Austria and parts of Switzerland can be
>eliminated because they speak German, while France and Italy take care
>of the French and Italian parts of Switzerland.
>
>Then look at the United Nations HQ in New York. Suppose not everyone
>speaks English.
>
>>> German speakers account for the largest group
>>> inside Europe. But that won't happen either. Everybody seems to be happy
>>> with English now. And German is much harder to learn than English, if you
>>> are from Spain, France, Italy or any other country with its own proper
>>> language.
>>
>> Every country is jealous of its own language. The French would probably
>> never accept German, and vise-versa.
>
>Yes, I agree.
>
>> I would think English is a much harder language than German because of
>> its quixotic spelling and pronunciation.
>
>I guess you're wrong here.
>
>Anyone here not a native English speaker, who learned English and German,
>can tell what was harder to learn?
>
>> Its only advantage is its ubiquity, so everyone has some exposure to
>> it. German is pronounced as it’s spelled.
>
>With few exception, plus regional differences.
>
>>> I don't think anybody wants to learn German or Gaelic in Europe.
>>
>> I (sort of) learned German for a number of reasons. One of them is that
>> it’s the most widely-spoken language. I’d love to learn Gaelic, among
>> others, but I think 1-1/2 languages are about my limit.
>
>German most widely spoken? I assume that is either Chinese (well they
>have different flavors), Hindu (they also have) or Spanish. Almost all
>countries of South America (Brazil might be one of the few exceptions)
>have Spanish as official language.
>
>French might also have a large area outside mainland France. Many African
>countries for example.

In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.

I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.

-- 
Jim

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#216540

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2021-01-26 18:34 +0000
Message-ID<rupnb201pde@news1.newsguy.com>
In reply to#216538
On 2021-01-26, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:

> In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
> formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
> I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
> couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
> speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.
>
> I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.

By the same token, Canadian schools taught Parisian French.
Many people felt we should be taught Quebec French, although
there was some concern that we might all sink into some sort
of filthy lower-class joual.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's a sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)

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#216549

Fromjolomo@gmail.com (Joe Morris)
Date2021-01-26 19:17 +0000
Message-ID<ruppsp$7cb$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#216540
Not so long ago, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2021-01-26, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:

> > In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
> > formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
> > I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
> > couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
> > speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.
> >
> > I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.

> By the same token, Canadian schools taught Parisian French.
> Many people felt we should be taught Quebec French, although
> there was some concern that we might all sink into some sort
> of filthy lower-class joual.

When I was growing up in Texas, they taught Castillian Spanish
instead of what the locals spoke. I took Latin instead :)

-- 
  Joe Morris
  jolomo@gmail.com

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#216551

FromJimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-26 13:46 -0600
Message-ID<78s01g9798ls5k2q91o80t0nhhd21c5r5u@4ax.com>
In reply to#216549
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 19:17:45 +0000 (UTC), jolomo@gmail.com (Joe
Morris) wrote:
>Not so long ago, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2021-01-26, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
>> > formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
>> > I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
>> > couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
>> > speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.
>> >
>> > I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.
>
>> By the same token, Canadian schools taught Parisian French.
>> Many people felt we should be taught Quebec French, although
>> there was some concern that we might all sink into some sort
>> of filthy lower-class joual.
>
>When I was growing up in Texas, they taught Castillian Spanish
>instead of what the locals spoke. I took Latin instead :)

I, and most of my fellow students in Texas, were not allowed to take
Latin unless we or our parents could convince the school the kid was
going to be a doctor or some other job that used latin. So most of us
wound up learning Spanish.

-- 
Jim

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#216572

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-26 19:26 -0500
Message-ID<ukc11g5ifs7ga8c1gqj632u9e06jjg79ff@4ax.com>
In reply to#216549
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 19:17:45 +0000 (UTC), jolomo@gmail.com (Joe
Morris) wrote:

>Not so long ago, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2021-01-26, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
>> > formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
>> > I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
>> > couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
>> > speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.
>> >
>> > I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.
>
>> By the same token, Canadian schools taught Parisian French.
>> Many people felt we should be taught Quebec French, although
>> there was some concern that we might all sink into some sort
>> of filthy lower-class joual.
>
>When I was growing up in Texas, they taught Castillian Spanish
>instead of what the locals spoke. I took Latin instead :)

In Florida I have no idea what kind of Spanish they were teaching.
After observing the Spanish teacher attempting to correct the usage of
a person born and raised in Spain who was employed by the Spanish
government, I came to realize that the teacher had no idea either.

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#216599

FromNiklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se>
Date2021-01-27 11:35 +0000
Message-ID<i7d1faF1gc1U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#216572
On 2021-01-27, J  Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In Florida I have no idea what kind of Spanish they were teaching.
> After observing the Spanish teacher attempting to correct the usage of
> a person born and raised in Spain who was employed by the Spanish
> government, I came to realize that the teacher had no idea either.

I think that may be a common pattern. I recall my English teacher being
unfamiliar with the word "flavo(u)r" when I used it. Not exactly what
I'd consider an obscure term.

Niklas
-- 
One developer I worked with pronounced SQL as "squirrel" and PL/SQL as
"peeled squirrel". This was the guy with several squirrel skulls on the
top of his monitor. I inherited those when he was fired for punching
someone fairly senior in management.   -- John Burnham

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#216615 — Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-))

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
SubjectObligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-))
Message-ID<rusavp28ir@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#216599
Stealing a .sig...

On 2021-01-27, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:

> One developer I worked with pronounced SQL as "squirrel" and PL/SQL as
> "peeled squirrel". This was the guy with several squirrel skulls on the
> top of his monitor. I inherited those when he was fired for punching
> someone fairly senior in management.   -- John Burnham

I always pronounced SQL as "squeal".  SQL*Forms was "squeal splat forms".
That sounds suitably violent, although I never had any squirrel skulls
on my monitor.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's a sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)

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#216632 — Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-))

FromRich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com>
Date2021-01-27 20:46 -0500
SubjectRe: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-))
Message-ID<mddpn1pdeas.fsf@panix5.panix.com>
In reply to#216615
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

> Stealing a .sig...

> On 2021-01-27, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote:

>> One developer I worked with pronounced SQL as "squirrel" and PL/SQL as
>> "peeled squirrel". This was the guy with several squirrel skulls on the
>> top of his monitor. I inherited those when he was fired for punching
>> someone fairly senior in management.   -- John Burnham

> I always pronounced SQL as "squeal".  SQL*Forms was "squeal splat forms".
> That sounds suitably violent, although I never had any squirrel skulls
> on my monitor.

My younger nephew pronounced "squirrel" as "squeal" until he was nearing his
teenage years, but it wasn't a one-off:  He also pronounced "girl" as "gweel".

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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