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Too much for one lifetime? :-)

Started bygareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com>
First post2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
Last post2021-02-24 05:32 -0800
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  Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "A.T. Murray" <mentificium@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 12:39 -0800
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 20:59 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2021-01-13 13:16 -0800
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:18 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 11:45 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-14 10:06 -0600
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:16 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2021-01-14 15:04 -0500
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 10:16 +0000
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:56 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 15:42 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:12 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 18:43 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 19:50 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 21:38 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 18:54 -0500
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-15 00:11 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-15 01:00 +0000
                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 23:32 -0500
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-15 21:56 -0500
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-14 16:00 -0500
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 14:07 -0500
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 21:20 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-14 18:01 -0400
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 23:41 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-15 02:21 -0400
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 11:00 +0000
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 11:59 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-17 17:44 +0000
                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 19:10 +0000
                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 11:42 +0000
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-18 12:29 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 10:23 -0500
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-18 12:12 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-18 09:17 -0600
                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:07 +0000
                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:14 +0000
                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-19 10:21 +0000
                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 11:17 +0000
                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-19 12:13 -0600
                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 21:39 +0000
                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-19 18:08 -0500
                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-20 04:22 -0600
                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-21 07:44 +0000
                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-22 17:49 -0700
                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-23 15:24 +0000
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-23 20:24 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-24 12:49 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-24 13:13 +0000
                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-24 22:30 -0500
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 07:00 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 21:56 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 09:35 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:51 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 04:41 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:03 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 07:03 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 09:50 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:34 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:29 -0600
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:53 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 19:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 20:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2021-01-27 13:00 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:39 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 17:39 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:51 -0500
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-30 09:56 +0000
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 15:46 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 17:52 +0000
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-25 18:30 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 18:37 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 19:33 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 01:37 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:58 -0500
                                                      Re: just in case, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 18:57 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:14 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:59 +0100
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:22 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 18:09 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:19 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:27 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:34 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:48 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-25 15:45 -0600
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 19:20 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Joacim Melin <Joacim.Melin@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> - 2021-01-25 20:33 +0200
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:12 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 03:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:42 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 22:11 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-27 08:36 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:52 -0600
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-29 23:19 +0200
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 21:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:19 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:48 +0100
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:26 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-30 20:06 +0000
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 14:38 -0600
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:47 -0400
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:50 -0600
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:14 -0500
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 15:55 -0500
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 20:13 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 09:48 -0600
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:44 -0400
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 01:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 13:05 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 12:29 -0500
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:17 +0000
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:42 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 22:21 -0400
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:40 +0100
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-30 16:04 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 16:06 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 21:35 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-01 16:54 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-02-01 09:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-01 18:12 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 16:02 -0700
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 01:47 +0000
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:23 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 09:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 10:16 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:21 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 11:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:23 -0500
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:35 -0500
                                                Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 04:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-25 23:32 -0500
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2021-01-26 04:58 -0800
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 13:18 +0000
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:55 +0000
                                                  Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 05:12 -0500
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 11:59 +0100
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:58 +0000
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 15:10 +0100
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 19:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:59 -0500
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-27 07:44 +0100
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:54 -0500
                                                            Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:20 +0000
                                                              Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-28 11:06 +0100
                                                                Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 08:42 -0500
                                                                  Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 15:26 +0000
                                                                    Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
                                                                      Re: Learning European languages lawrence <lawrence@cluon.com> - 2021-01-28 12:54 -0600
                                                                        Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:06 +0000
                                                                      Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:45 -0500
                                                                    Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-20 18:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-20 13:12 -0500
                                                                        Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-21 15:36 +0100
                                                                          Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-21 17:49 -0500
                                                                Re: Learning European languages Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2021-01-29 01:47 +0000
                                                                  Re: Learning European languages Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-31 18:09 +0200
                                                              Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 10:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 11:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:50 -0500
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:56 +0000
                                                  Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-26 22:23 +0000
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 23:15 -0500
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 00:06 -0500
                                                      Re: Learning European languages JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:58 -0600
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:17 -0500
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 16:03 -0500
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
                                                            Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 23:06 -0400
                                                              Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
                                                                Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:34 -0400
                                                                Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:58 -0500
                                                                  Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
                                                            Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 23:30 -0500
                                                        Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:24 -0500
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
                                                        Re: Learning European languages "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 22:44 -0400
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 20:01 -0500
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 19:48 +0000
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 20:02 +0000
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 12:03 -0600
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:34 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) jolomo@gmail.com (Joe Morris) - 2021-01-26 19:17 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:46 -0600
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:26 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:35 +0000
                                                          Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:46 -0500
                                                            Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:10 +0000
                                                              Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:04 -0600
                                                              Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:16 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:47 -0600
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:12 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:30 -0600
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 15:52 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:57 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:43 -0600
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 20:49 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:31 -0400
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 00:10 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:34 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:01 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:21 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:31 -0500
                                                        Re: linguistic miracles, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 19:13 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-26 14:05 -0600
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 16:34 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:57 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:55 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-30 04:58 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:56 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:32 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 12:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 13:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-29 04:05 -0600
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:45 -0400
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:55 -0600
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 19:45 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 16:00 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 19:00 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:43 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:10 -0600
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 16:19 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 14:37 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 20:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:16 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 12:18 +0000
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-29 10:21 -0600
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-29 17:04 +0000
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-29 17:15 +0000
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:14 +0000
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:58 -0700
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-29 14:38 -0600
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 21:02 +0000
                                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 14:09 -0600
                                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-31 00:09 +0000
                                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 20:27 -0600
                                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-31 05:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-31 01:37 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 21:18 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 21:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:38 -0500
                                                    Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:27 +0000
                                                      Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:42 +0000
                                                        Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:45 +0000
                                                          Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2021-02-01 15:00 +0100
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 09:39 +0100
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 14:22 -0800
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-26 22:40 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-26 23:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-02-27 10:43 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:22 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-28 20:59 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-28 22:50 -0500
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:09 +0000
                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-02 02:02 +0100
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-02-02 04:38 -0600
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 11:20 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 17:16 +0000
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:04 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-19 17:58 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 22:47 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:12 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-23 22:04 -0800
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-24 09:27 -0700
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-24 17:33 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 19:23 -0500
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 00:05 -0500
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 12:51 -0600
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-24 17:23 -0400
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 15:45 -0600
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-25 05:03 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 09:59 -0600
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-25 16:52 +0000
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2021-02-25 19:38 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-25 19:44 -0400
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-25 21:46 -0500
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-26 05:19 +0000
                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:59 +0000
                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-26 20:53 -0500
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-27 10:51 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-27 11:19 +0000
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:17 -0500
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 13:52 -0600
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-02-26 10:53 -1000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:29 -0700
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:56 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:27 -0500
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-09-29 17:34 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 13:32 -0500
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:50 -0400
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:10 -0500
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 19:54 +0100
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:48 -0400
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:51 -0400
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:03 -0400
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:33 -0400
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:56 +0000
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> - 2021-01-31 05:32 -0800
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 15:58 +0000
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 21:27 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 22:11 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 22:50 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:08 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 17:49 +0000
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 18:41 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 19:01 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-31 19:32 -0400
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 09:24 -0600
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 11:45 -0700
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-01 21:34 +0000
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 18:19 -0500
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 01:13 -0500
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 06:50 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:12 -0500
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 09:21 -0600
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800

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#216290 — Too much for one lifetime? :-)

Fromgareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com>
Date2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
SubjectToo much for one lifetime? :-)
Message-ID<rtnkpc$b1m$1@dont-email.me>
This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
today purchase microprocessors with an equal or better
capability for only a few £££ or $$$.

Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
periods of accelerated development?

Any of the other professionals who qualified at the same time
as we engineers have only had to deal with the same characteristics
as they dealt with 50 years ago with very minor changes, be they
doctors or lawyers.

Pity the poor electronic engineer!

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#216291

From"A.T. Murray" <mentificium@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-13 12:39 -0800
Message-ID<13c49501-680d-49b1-81e6-53f6df9115f1n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#216290
On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 12:22:06 PM UTC-8, gareth evans wrote:
>  [...]
> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable 
> periods of accelerated development? 
> 
> Pity the poor electronic engineer!

Artificial Intelligence (AI) is one technology recently blossoming with AI Minds thinking first in English, then in German, then Russian, and most recently in ancient Latin.

https://ai.neocities.org/LaThink.html -- how an AI Mind thinks in ancient Latin.

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#216292

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2021-01-13 20:59 +0000
Message-ID<20210113205926.f1dc7911052eaf1af13f6d58@eircom.net>
In reply to#216290
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 20:21:57 +0000
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
> today purchase microprocessors with an equal or better
> capability for only a few £££ or $$$.
> 
> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
> periods of accelerated development?

	Flight! The Wright brothers got Kittyhawk off the ground in 1903,
by 1953 we were seeing the first jet airliners (the 707 was only a year
later) and we were only four years short of the first satellite launch.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#216293

Frombert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com>
Date2021-01-13 13:16 -0800
Message-ID<4e3e64d1-e372-4457-b87d-0dc4b1c6b67dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#216292
On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 21:00:06 UTC, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 20:21:57 +0000 
> gareth evans <hea...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> 
> > This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on 
> > assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can 
> > today purchase microprocessors with an equal or better 
> > capability for only a few £££ or $$$. 
> > 
> > Are there any other technologies that have had comparable 
> > periods of accelerated development?
> Flight! The Wright brothers got Kittyhawk off the ground in 1903, 
> by 1953 we were seeing the first jet airliners (the 707 was only a year 
> later) and we were only four years short of the first satellite launch. 

Maybe the 50 years (plus 1 month) from Alcock and Brown to 
Armstrong and Aldrin cover a bigger technological  advance.

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#216301

Fromgareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com>
Date2021-01-13 22:18 +0000
Message-ID<rtnrkc$s2c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#216293
On 13/01/2021 21:16, bert wrote:
> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 21:00:06 UTC, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 20:21:57 +0000
>> gareth evans <hea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This year is 50 years since I first cut my teeth on
>>> assembler programming on a 16kb PDP11-20, but I can
>>> today purchase microprocessors with an equal or better
>>> capability for only a few £££ or $$$.
>>>
>>> Are there any other technologies that have had comparable
>>> periods of accelerated development?
>> Flight! The Wright brothers got Kittyhawk off the ground in 1903,
>> by 1953 we were seeing the first jet airliners (the 707 was only a year
>> later) and we were only four years short of the first satellite launch.
>
> Maybe the 50 years (plus 1 month) from Alcock and Brown to
> Armstrong and Aldrin cover a bigger technological  advance.
>

Sorry, but having posed the question has brought to mind that for
millennia, humanity existed with wood, stone and very little metal,
and any possessions would be valued and keppt for generations, but the
technologies of the past nearly 200 years have produced great waste
in that a further development results in abandonment and scrapping
of previous approaches.

What of humanity in the next 200, 2000, or 200,000 years when petroleum
and coal are long exhausted. Are we too much concerned with our
comforts of today?

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#216307

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2021-01-14 11:45 +0000
Message-ID<20210114114517.85938fd8e89205ec775bd8f6@eircom.net>
In reply to#216301
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 22:18:43 +0000
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sorry, but having posed the question has brought to mind that for
> millennia, humanity existed with wood, stone and very little metal,
> and any possessions would be valued and kept for generations, but the

	Also in very small numbers. The world population hit a billion for
the first time 200 years ago.

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#216314

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2021-01-14 10:06 -0600
Message-ID<rtpq5o$bjv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#216301
On 1/13/2021 4:18 PM, gareth evans wrote:

> What of humanity in the next 200, 2000, or 200,000 years when petroleum
> and coal are long exhausted. Are we too much concerned with our
> comforts of today?
> 

Of course. Though whatever one's view on human resource use may be, 
projecting the question another 200,000 years is wildly optimistic. 
Unless one subscribes to the rule of thumb that to predict how long 
something  ongoing will continue, you take however long it has lasted 
already and double that.

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#216316

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2021-01-14 17:16 +0000
Message-ID<k%_LH.3311$ew6.2951@fx11.iad>
In reply to#216314
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
>On 1/13/2021 4:18 PM, gareth evans wrote:
>
>> What of humanity in the next 200, 2000, or 200,000 years when petroleum
>> and coal are long exhausted. Are we too much concerned with our
>> comforts of today?
>> 
>
>Of course. Though whatever one's view on human resource use may be, 
>projecting the question another 200,000 years is wildly optimistic. 
>Unless one subscribes to the rule of thumb that to predict how long 
>something  ongoing will continue, you take however long it has lasted 
>already and double that.
>

Musings from a physicist who normally bounces lasers off the moon:

 https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/07/galactic-scale-energy/
 https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/10/the-energy-trap/
 https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/11/peak-oil-perspective/
 https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/09/discovering-limits-to-growth/

 https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/12/the-future-needs-an-attitude-adjustment/

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#216324

FromRadey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net>
Date2021-01-14 15:04 -0500
Message-ID<87y2gvl1yy.fsf@mothra.home>
In reply to#216316
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

> Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> writes:
>>On 1/13/2021 4:18 PM, gareth evans wrote:
>>
>>> What of humanity in the next 200, 2000, or 200,000 years when petroleum
>>> and coal are long exhausted. Are we too much concerned with our
>>> comforts of today?
>>> 
>>
>>Of course. Though whatever one's view on human resource use may be, 
>>projecting the question another 200,000 years is wildly optimistic. 
>>Unless one subscribes to the rule of thumb that to predict how long 
>>something  ongoing will continue, you take however long it has lasted 
>>already and double that.
>>
>
> Musings from a physicist who normally bounces lasers off the moon:
>
>  https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/07/galactic-scale-energy/
>  https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/10/the-energy-trap/
>  https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/11/peak-oil-perspective/
>  https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/09/discovering-limits-to-growth/
>
>  https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2011/12/the-future-needs-an-attitude-adjustment/


In more or less the same spirit, an online book on what is possible with
sustainable energy:

https://www.withouthotair.com

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#216306

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2021-01-14 10:16 +0000
Message-ID<20210114101654.834dd24a1caaf32c541c7cae@eircom.net>
In reply to#216293
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 13:16:23 -0800 (PST)
bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On Wednesday, 13 January 2021 at 21:00:06 UTC, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> > Flight! The Wright brothers got Kittyhawk off the ground in 1903, 
> > by 1953 we were seeing the first jet airliners (the 707 was only a year 
> > later) and we were only four years short of the first satellite launch. 
> 
> Maybe the 50 years (plus 1 month) from Alcock and Brown to 
> Armstrong and Aldrin cover a bigger technological  advance.

	Maybe, it was pretty fast from 1903 to some time in the 1970s and
then slowed down quite a bit, short of the hypersonic planes that some were
predicting a little earlier.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
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#216311

FromVir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-01-14 14:56 +0000
Message-ID<rtpm2n$9ab$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#216293
On 13/01/2021 21:16, bert wrote:
> Maybe the 50 years (plus 1 month) from Alcock and Brown to
> Armstrong and Aldrin cover a bigger technological  advance.

My grandfather was born before the Wright brother's flight, and was in 
the RFC in WW1. By the time he died we had men on the moon, and he'd 
been on Concorde.

What went wrong? I never dreamed when I was a child that I would see the 
end of supersonic transport, and the death of the last man who ever 
walked on the moon. It can't be far away now, they're all at least 85.

I'm glad I made my career in computers...

Andy

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#216313

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2021-01-14 15:42 +0000
Message-ID<20210114154222.cadf1ef9f4f99fd9a89d692d@eircom.net>
In reply to#216311
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:56:23 +0000
Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> What went wrong?

> I never dreamed when I was a child that I would see thel end of
> supersonic transport,

	Economics happened to that - for now at least. Musk seems to think
he can make hypersonic sub-orbital transport pay.

> and the death of the last man who ever 
> walked on the moon. It can't be far away now, they're all at least 85.

	Yeah, that is at least in part because nobody new why they went
there in the first place, Von Braun's plans for going into space and to the
planets sensibly were dropped in favour of "Whatever it takes get someone
to the moon and back before the commies do".

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#216315

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2021-01-14 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<%X_LH.3310$ew6.1534@fx11.iad>
In reply to#216313
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:56:23 +0000
>Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> What went wrong?
>
>> I never dreamed when I was a child that I would see thel end of
>> supersonic transport,
>
>	Economics happened to that - for now at least. Musk seems to think
>he can make hypersonic sub-orbital transport pay.

And there are three companies currently developing low-boom supersonic
transport aircraft, two for bizjets and one for regular passenger
service.

  Boom Supersonic "Overture".  First flight scheduled for 2023.  55 pax, mach 2.2
  Aerion Supersonic "AS2".   First flight 2023, mach 1.4, 12 pax.
  Spike Aerospace "S-512".   First flight 2023, mach 1.6, 12-18 pax.

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#216320

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2021-01-14 18:43 +0000
Message-ID<20210114184319.84eaa8f614510bf8e8604dd5@eircom.net>
In reply to#216315
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:12:27 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:

> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
> >On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:56:23 +0000
> >Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> What went wrong?
> >
> >> I never dreamed when I was a child that I would see thel end of
> >> supersonic transport,
> >
> >	Economics happened to that - for now at least. Musk seems to
> >	think
> >he can make hypersonic sub-orbital transport pay.
> 
> And there are three companies currently developing low-boom supersonic
> transport aircraft, two for bizjets and one for regular passenger
> service.

	I knew of one, not the other two. I wonder how they'll pan out
commercially.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#216322

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2021-01-14 19:50 +0000
Message-ID<fg1MH.50179$Er.12139@fx44.iad>
In reply to#216320
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:12:27 GMT
>scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>> >On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 14:56:23 +0000
>> >Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What went wrong?
>> >
>> >> I never dreamed when I was a child that I would see thel end of
>> >> supersonic transport,
>> >
>> >	Economics happened to that - for now at least. Musk seems to
>> >	think
>> >he can make hypersonic sub-orbital transport pay.
>> 
>> And there are three companies currently developing low-boom supersonic
>> transport aircraft, two for bizjets and one for regular passenger
>> service.
>
>	I knew of one, not the other two. I wonder how they'll pan out
>commercially.

NASA is currently doing work to characterize low-boom effects on communities.

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#216331

FromVir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>
Date2021-01-14 21:38 +0000
Message-ID<rtqdk0$vgl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#216315
On 14/01/2021 17:12, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> And there are three companies currently developing low-boom supersonic
> transport aircraft, two for bizjets and one for regular passenger
> service.

We had a boom the other day. A bizjet inbound from Germany to London had 
its transponder off and didn't respond to signals. They scrambled the 
RAF with all dispatch... quite a little thing a Eurofighter is, and it 
rattled our windows 20 miles off the flightpath.

Andy

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#216344

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-14 18:54 -0500
Message-ID<1bm10g546r2q6om0b1evkmh98jlgq2c4gq@4ax.com>
In reply to#216331
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 21:38:08 +0000, Vir Campestris
<vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>On 14/01/2021 17:12, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> And there are three companies currently developing low-boom supersonic
>> transport aircraft, two for bizjets and one for regular passenger
>> service.
>
>We had a boom the other day. A bizjet inbound from Germany to London had 
>its transponder off and didn't respond to signals. They scrambled the 
>RAF with all dispatch... quite a little thing a Eurofighter is, and it 
>rattled our windows 20 miles off the flightpath.

And then there is SpaceX working on a more-boom hypersonic craft.  Get
you from New York to Tokyo in half an hour but there won't be a window
left at either end.

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#216347

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2021-01-15 00:11 +0000
Message-ID<20210115001135.a50b6d51b1b9777c38e2cd16@eircom.net>
In reply to#216344
On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:54:39 -0500
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

> And then there is SpaceX working on a more-boom hypersonic craft.  Get
> you from New York to Tokyo in half an hour but there won't be a window
> left at either end.

	IIRC the plan is to have them takeoff and land some distance off
shore and ferry people to and from land. So here's what that half hour
looks like:

two hours to check in,
thirty minutes to spaceport,
thirty minutes boarding, 
thirty minutes getting ready and waiting on a slot,
thirty minutes airborne,
thirty minutes to mainland,
two hours in immigration,
thirty minutes in baggage control

	Seven hours later and you've missed the last train and there's no
taxis on the rank. The future looks a lot like the present.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
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#216348

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2021-01-15 01:00 +0000
Message-ID<rtqpg50v9k@news1.newsguy.com>
In reply to#216347
On 2021-01-15, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:54:39 -0500
> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And then there is SpaceX working on a more-boom hypersonic craft.  Get
>> you from New York to Tokyo in half an hour but there won't be a window
>> left at either end.
>
> 	IIRC the plan is to have them takeoff and land some distance off
> shore and ferry people to and from land. So here's what that half hour
> looks like:
>
> two hours to check in,
> thirty minutes to spaceport,
> thirty minutes boarding, 
> thirty minutes getting ready and waiting on a slot,
> thirty minutes airborne,
> thirty minutes to mainland,
> two hours in immigration,
> thirty minutes in baggage control
>
> 	Seven hours later and you've missed the last train and there's no
> taxis on the rank. The future looks a lot like the present.

'Twas ever thus.  B.C. spent $270 mil... oops, $450 million on their
infamous Fast Cat ferries, promising to slash the time it took to get
to and from Vancouver Island.  As far as I know, the only person who
liked them was a resident of Gabriola Island who would get out his
surfboard every time one went by.  They kicked up such a wake that
they had to severly limit their speed during a good part of the trip,
so they succeeded in shortening a 1:45 trip by 10 minutes.  And you
couldn't stay in your car but had to go up to a cramped upper deck,
where you could watch your progress on a screen - or might have, if
the map display wasn't replaced by ads as soon as you left port.
And the only way they could get any speed at all was to redline
the engines - and when the inevitable breakdowns occurred, they
discovered that the only way to remove the engines for overhaul
was to cut a hole in the hull.  They were eventually removed from
service (to the great relief of all), and sat in drydock as an
embarrassing display until they were finally sold off for 10 cents
on the dollar.

It all sounds like an Eric Idle skit.  "I'm tired of being treated
like a sheep..."

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's a sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
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#216349

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-14 23:32 -0500
Message-ID<nh620g1i1b42nv56231839dsjv0d750r33@4ax.com>
In reply to#216348
On 15 Jan 2021 01:00:53 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2021-01-15, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 18:54:39 -0500
>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And then there is SpaceX working on a more-boom hypersonic craft.  Get
>>> you from New York to Tokyo in half an hour but there won't be a window
>>> left at either end.
>>
>> 	IIRC the plan is to have them takeoff and land some distance off
>> shore and ferry people to and from land. So here's what that half hour
>> looks like:
>>
>> two hours to check in,
>> thirty minutes to spaceport,
>> thirty minutes boarding, 
>> thirty minutes getting ready and waiting on a slot,
>> thirty minutes airborne,
>> thirty minutes to mainland,
>> two hours in immigration,
>> thirty minutes in baggage control
>>
>> 	Seven hours later and you've missed the last train and there's no
>> taxis on the rank. The future looks a lot like the present.
>
>'Twas ever thus.  B.C. spent $270 mil... oops, $450 million on their
>infamous Fast Cat ferries, promising to slash the time it took to get
>to and from Vancouver Island.  As far as I know, the only person who
>liked them was a resident of Gabriola Island who would get out his
>surfboard every time one went by.  They kicked up such a wake that
>they had to severly limit their speed during a good part of the trip,
>so they succeeded in shortening a 1:45 trip by 10 minutes.  And you
>couldn't stay in your car but had to go up to a cramped upper deck,
>where you could watch your progress on a screen - or might have, if
>the map display wasn't replaced by ads as soon as you left port.
>And the only way they could get any speed at all was to redline
>the engines - and when the inevitable breakdowns occurred, they
>discovered that the only way to remove the engines for overhaul
>was to cut a hole in the hull.  They were eventually removed from
>service (to the great relief of all), and sat in drydock as an
>embarrassing display until they were finally sold off for 10 cents
>on the dollar.

If I was a zillionaire I would have bought one of them things and made
a yacht out of it at that price.

Maybe I'm nuts but I like Incat ferries.  One of them holds the
transatlantic record.  They spent a day in the middle of the ocean
searching for a crashed airplane and _still_ broke the previous
record.

>It all sounds like an Eric Idle skit.  "I'm tired of being treated
>like a sheep..."

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