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Blinken lights making a comeback

Started byDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
First post2020-11-11 14:09 -0500
Last post2020-11-14 22:31 +0000
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  Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-11 14:09 -0500
    Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-11 15:50 -0600
      Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-11 17:01 -0500
        Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-12 18:38 +0000
      Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Michael LeVine <mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com> - 2020-11-11 16:10 -0800
        Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Michael LeVine <mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com> - 2020-11-11 16:13 -0800
          Re: Blinken lights making a comeback J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-11 19:23 -0500
    Re: Blinken lights making a comeback drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-11-11 21:57 -0600
      Re: Blinken lights making a comeback J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-11 23:09 -0500
    Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2020-11-12 10:35 -0700
      Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-12 14:03 -0500
    Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-13 21:21 +0000
      Re: Blinken lights making a comeback J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-13 17:16 -0500
        Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Robert Netzlof <rnetzlof@gmail.com> - 2020-11-13 14:36 -0800
          Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2020-11-13 17:24 -0600
            Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-14 00:21 +0000
              Re: Blinken lights making a comeback J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-13 19:56 -0500
            National Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-15 12:09 +0000
              Re: National Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback) Michael LeVine <mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com> - 2020-11-15 04:17 -0800
              Re: National Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-15 18:03 +0000
                Re: National Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-15 18:16 +0000
                  Re: ancient computer humor, was National Lampoon lights making a comeback) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-11-15 20:39 +0000
                    Re: ancient computer humor, was National Lampoon lights making a comeback) Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-15 18:37 -0600
          Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-11-13 20:32 -0400
        Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-13 22:51 +0000
      Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-13 18:54 -0500
      Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-11-13 20:22 -0800
        Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-14 07:47 +0000
          Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 07:28 -0500
          Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-14 12:38 +0000
            Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 08:19 -0500
              Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-14 13:22 +0000
                Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 12:26 -0500
                  Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-14 21:27 +0000
                    Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 19:20 -0500
                Re: Blinken lights making a comeback J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 12:37 -0500
          Re: Blinken lights making a comeback JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 12:03 -0600
            Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-14 22:03 +0000
              Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-11-14 21:30 -0600
                Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-15 08:51 +0000
              Re: Blinken lights making a comeback JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-15 14:02 -0600
      Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2020-11-17 10:31 -0700
    Re: Blinken lights making a comeback "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-14 20:02 +0100
      Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 14:33 -0500
        Re: Blinken lights making a comeback "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-14 21:19 +0100
          Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 16:27 -0500
            Re: Blinken lights making a comeback Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-11-14 17:16 -0800
        Re: Blinken lights making a comeback scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-14 22:31 +0000

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#215209 — Blinken lights making a comeback

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-11 14:09 -0500
SubjectBlinken lights making a comeback
Message-ID<rohcsk$b64$1@dont-email.me>
Many years ago I posted here that I missed all the blinking lights on
computer consoles.

I'm trying to pick out a new desktop motherboard and I see that the
lights are back, in spades.

Not exactly blinking lights, but they are lights, they can blink, and
they can indicate system condition.

I want to put a new motherboard in my existing case which has a glass
side panel.  Most of the motherboards now come with RGB.  In short,
there are colored LEDs all around the board and the fans and they change
color under computer control.

For me, this seems pointless because the glass side of my case faces the
wall.  Plus, I have just the amount of lighting I want with my new RGB
keyboard.

So, I looked at a bunch of boards and found the MSI X570 PRO-A, no
lights but otherwise everything I wanted.  Today I'm reading the specs
and it doesn't appear to have any lights but there are multiple sockets
on the board to control RGB devices.

So, it looks like the blinking lights are back.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#215212

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-11-11 15:50 -0600
Message-ID<rohmah$fj2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215209
On 11/11/2020 1:09 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
> So, it looks like the blinking lights are back.
> 

https://i.imgur.com/ESq7NT2.jpeg

Achtung! Alles Lookenspeepers!

Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben.

Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken.

Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen.

Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und 
watchen das blinkenlights.

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#215213

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-11 17:01 -0500
Message-ID<rohn03$2dr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215212
Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> writes:

> On 11/11/2020 1:09 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
>> So, it looks like the blinking lights are back.
>> 
>
> https://i.imgur.com/ESq7NT2.jpeg
>
> Achtung! Alles Lookenspeepers!
>
> Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben.
>
> Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken.
>
> Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen.
>
> Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das
> pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights.

Back in the day, that sign was in just about every computer room.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#215225

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2020-11-12 18:38 +0000
Message-ID<rojve8120u5@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#215213
On 2020-11-11, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> writes:
>
>> On 11/11/2020 1:09 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
>>
>>> So, it looks like the blinking lights are back.
>>
>> https://i.imgur.com/ESq7NT2.jpeg
>>
>> Achtung! Alles Lookenspeepers!
>>
>> Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben.
>>
>> Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken
>> mit spitzensparken.
>>
>> Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen.
>>
>> Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das
>> pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights.
>
> Back in the day, that sign was in just about every computer room.

I still have one of the original IBM "THINK" signs.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)

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#215218

FromMichael LeVine <mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com>
Date2020-11-11 16:10 -0800
Message-ID<2020111116104299853-mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com>
In reply to#215212
On 2020-11-11 21:50:08 +0000, Dallas said:

> On 11/11/2020 1:09 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
>> So, it looks like the blinking lights are back.
>> 
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/ESq7NT2.jpeg
> 
> Achtung! Alles Lookenspeepers!
> 
> Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben.
> 
> Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit 
> spitzensparken.
> 
> Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen.
> 
> Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das 
> pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights.

There  is a German version

ATTENTION

This   room  is  fullfilled   mit   special   electronische   equipment.
Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is
allowed   for  die   experts   only!  So   all  the  "lefthanders"  stay
away  and do not  disturben the brainstorming von here working
intelligencies.  Otherwise  you  will  be  out  thrown  and  kicked
anderswhere! So:please keep still and only watchen  astaunished
the blinkenlights.


-- 
Michael LeVine
mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com

Politics is the art of looking for trouble,
finding it everywhere,
diagnosing it incorrectly,
and applying the wrong remedies.
		Groucho Marx

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#215219

FromMichael LeVine <mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com>
Date2020-11-11 16:13 -0800
Message-ID<2020111116131026680-mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com>
In reply to#215218
On 2020-11-12 00:10:42 +0000, Michael LeVine said:

> On 2020-11-11 21:50:08 +0000, Dallas said:
> 
>> On 11/11/2020 1:09 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
>>> So, it looks like the blinking lights are back.
>>> 
>> 
>> https://i.imgur.com/ESq7NT2.jpeg
>> 
>> Achtung! Alles Lookenspeepers!
>> 
>> Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben.
>> 
>> Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit 
>> spitzensparken.
>> 
>> Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen.
>> 
>> Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das 
>> pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights.
> 
> There  is a German version
> 
> ATTENTION
> 
> This   room  is  fullfilled   mit   special   electronische   equipment.
> Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is
> allowed   for  die   experts   only!  So   all  the  "lefthanders"  stay
> away  and do not  disturben the brainstorming von here working
> intelligencies.  Otherwise  you  will  be  out  thrown  and  kicked
> anderswhere! So:please keep still and only watchen  astaunished
> the blinkenlights.

Also along teh same lines is

Warning
This machine is subject to breakdowns
during periods of critical need.
A special circuit in the machine called a critical detector
senses the operator's emotional state in terms of how
desperate he or she is to use the machine. The critical
detector then creates a malfunction proportional to the
desperation of the operator. Threatening the machine with
violence only aggravates the situation. Likewise attempts
to use another machine may cause it to also malfunction.
They belong to the same union. Keep cool and say nice
things to the machine.

-- 
Michael LeVine
mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com

Politics is the art of looking for trouble,
finding it everywhere,
diagnosing it incorrectly,
and applying the wrong remedies.
		Groucho Marx

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#215220

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-11 19:23 -0500
Message-ID<s10pqfha32eouvn43gqpr3rkp8mbvpttbq@4ax.com>
In reply to#215219
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 16:13:10 -0800, Michael LeVine
<mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com> wrote:

>On 2020-11-12 00:10:42 +0000, Michael LeVine said:
>
>> On 2020-11-11 21:50:08 +0000, Dallas said:
>> 
>>> On 11/11/2020 1:09 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>> So, it looks like the blinking lights are back.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://i.imgur.com/ESq7NT2.jpeg
>>> 
>>> Achtung! Alles Lookenspeepers!
>>> 
>>> Das computermachine ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben.
>>> 
>>> Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit 
>>> spitzensparken.
>>> 
>>> Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen.
>>> 
>>> Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das 
>>> pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights.
>> 
>> There  is a German version
>> 
>> ATTENTION
>> 
>> This   room  is  fullfilled   mit   special   electronische   equipment.
>> Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is
>> allowed   for  die   experts   only!  So   all  the  "lefthanders"  stay
>> away  and do not  disturben the brainstorming von here working
>> intelligencies.  Otherwise  you  will  be  out  thrown  and  kicked
>> anderswhere! So:please keep still and only watchen  astaunished
>> the blinkenlights.
>
>Also along teh same lines is
>
>Warning
>This machine is subject to breakdowns
>during periods of critical need.
>A special circuit in the machine called a critical detector
>senses the operator's emotional state in terms of how
>desperate he or she is to use the machine. The critical
>detector then creates a malfunction proportional to the
>desperation of the operator. Threatening the machine with
>violence only aggravates the situation. Likewise attempts
>to use another machine may cause it to also malfunction.
>They belong to the same union. Keep cool and say nice
>things to the machine.

Friend of mine came up with a counter for that one.  Had a big
sledghammer that he put in a case with a note "in case of emergency
break glass".  His computer was very stable.

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#215221

Fromdrb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone)
Date2020-11-11 21:57 -0600
Message-ID<LPudneD1ivorLzHCnZ2dnUU7-f2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#215209
 > I want to put a new motherboard in my existing case which has a glass
 > side panel.

Spurious emissions what?

De

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#215222

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-11 23:09 -0500
Message-ID<gvcpqfll6am749a7i4bt1587q99of2vuda@4ax.com>
In reply to#215221
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:57:42 -0600, drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis
Boone) wrote:

>
> > I want to put a new motherboard in my existing case which has a glass
> > side panel.
>
>Spurious emissions what?

It's the second decade of the 21st century.  Computers with windows
are a fixture and have been for a decade or more and have not been
shown to cause any kind of problem.  

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#215224

FromJoe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
Date2020-11-12 10:35 -0700
Message-ID<1b361e5vhc.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net>
In reply to#215209
Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> writes:
>
> So, I looked at a bunch of boards and found the MSI X570 PRO-A, no
> lights but otherwise everything I wanted.  Today I'm reading the specs
> and it doesn't appear to have any lights but there are multiple sockets
> on the board to control RGB devices.

That's almost enough to get me to replace my motherboard...

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#215227

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-12 14:03 -0500
Message-ID<rok0u9$sqd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215224
Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> writes:

> Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> So, I looked at a bunch of boards and found the MSI X570 PRO-A, no
>> lights but otherwise everything I wanted.  Today I'm reading the specs
>> and it doesn't appear to have any lights but there are multiple sockets
>> on the board to control RGB devices.
>
> That's almost enough to get me to replace my motherboard...

I've been doing lots of research.  I believe AMDs new processors are
worth the effort.  I think I'm going with the 6 core Ryzen 5 5600X.
I really don't think I need the next step up with 8 cores.
I want some kind of X570 motherboard, I'm not 100% sure which one.
I also want to put one of those M.2 storage devices in it, they're
even faster than the SSDs I'm currently using.
Having USB-C will be nice but not 100% necessary, I back up to USB
sticks and it's slow but I do it overnight.  So, I think the time
for an upgrade has come, but the lights inside the case, like I said,
even if I wanted more light in the office, the transparent side of
my case faces the wall, so any light in there is a waste for me.

In my travels I saw that you can also buy a small LED screen that
attaches to the motherboard and it shows system health statistics.
I believe that's to help over-clockers.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#215231

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-11-13 21:21 +0000
Message-ID<slrnrqtu6t.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#215209
On Wed, 2020-11-11, Dan Espen wrote:
>
> Many years ago I posted here that I missed all the blinking lights on
> computer consoles.
>
> I'm trying to pick out a new desktop motherboard and I see that the
> lights are back, in spades.
>
> Not exactly blinking lights, but they are lights, they can blink, and
> they can indicate system condition.
>
> I want to put a new motherboard in my existing case which has a glass
> side panel.  Most of the motherboards now come with RGB.  In short,
> there are colored LEDs all around the board and the fans and they change
> color under computer control.

Why is it called RGB -- can you also get CMYK?

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#215232

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-13 17:16 -0500
Message-ID<nc1uqf90etdhc4dgbppbash1q4aepq9lr3@4ax.com>
In reply to#215231
On 13 Nov 2020 21:21:33 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
wrote:

>On Wed, 2020-11-11, Dan Espen wrote:
>>
>> Many years ago I posted here that I missed all the blinking lights on
>> computer consoles.
>>
>> I'm trying to pick out a new desktop motherboard and I see that the
>> lights are back, in spades.
>>
>> Not exactly blinking lights, but they are lights, they can blink, and
>> they can indicate system condition.
>>
>> I want to put a new motherboard in my existing case which has a glass
>> side panel.  Most of the motherboards now come with RGB.  In short,
>> there are colored LEDs all around the board and the fans and they change
>> color under computer control.
>
>Why is it called RGB -- can you also get CMYK?

You could, but black LEDs are generally considered to be defective for
some reason.

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#215233

FromRobert Netzlof <rnetzlof@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-13 14:36 -0800
Message-ID<cd2f4d3e-0fa6-496e-a037-654a66a4686dn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#215232
On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:16:32 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:

> >Why is it called RGB -- can you also get CMYK?
> You could, but black LEDs are generally considered to be defective for 
> some reason.

I believe you are actually thinking of the little-known Dark Emitting Diode, once promoted for use in constructing portable photographic darkrooms. With the decline in film photography in favor of digital, darkrooms and thus the DED declined in popularity until today, both are practically unknown.

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#215235

FromJon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>
Date2020-11-13 17:24 -0600
Message-ID<Cuidnd1nMPcmiDLCnZ2dnUU7-bGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#215233
Robert Netzlof wrote:

> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:16:32 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> 
>> >Why is it called RGB -- can you also get CMYK?
>> You could, but black LEDs are generally considered to be defective for
>> some reason.
> 
> I believe you are actually thinking of the little-known Dark Emitting
> Diode, once promoted for use in constructing portable photographic
> darkrooms. With the decline in film photography in favor of digital,
> darkrooms and thus the DED declined in popularity until today, both are
> practically unknown.
In the April issue of one of the old electronics magazines, a new 
development was announced.  By manufacturing LEDs and Darkness-Emitting 
Arsenide Diodes on the same production line, 100% yield was achieved.
They let the reader come up with the acronym for this new device.

Jon

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#215238

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2020-11-14 00:21 +0000
Message-ID<ron7ts01b00@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#215235
On 2020-11-13, Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> wrote:

> Robert Netzlof wrote:
>
>> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:16:32 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>> 
>>>> Why is it called RGB -- can you also get CMYK?
>>>
>>> You could, but black LEDs are generally considered to be defective for
>>> some reason.
>> 
>> I believe you are actually thinking of the little-known Dark Emitting
>> Diode, once promoted for use in constructing portable photographic
>> darkrooms. With the decline in film photography in favor of digital,
>> darkrooms and thus the DED declined in popularity until today, both are
>> practically unknown.
>
> In the April issue of one of the old electronics magazines, a new 
> development was announced.  By manufacturing LEDs and Darkness-Emitting 
> Arsenide Diodes on the same production line, 100% yield was achieved.
> They let the reader come up with the acronym for this new device.

That must be what was in the all-black spaceship that Douglas Adams
described in _The Restaurant at the End of the Universe_:

    "It's the wild colour scheme that freaks me," said Zaphod,
    whose love affair with this ship had lasted almost three
    minutes into the flight.  "Every time you try to operate
    one of these weird black controls that are labeled in black
    on a black background, a little black light lights up black
    to let you know you've done it.  What is this?  Some kind of
    galactic hyperhearse?"

Elsewhere I once read a description of a Noise-Emitting Diode,
which would generate a loud (although brief) sound when you
hooked it up to 110 volts AC.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)

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#215240

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-11-13 19:56 -0500
Message-ID<bmauqfthaosrp4i49j33vgfrrn2p017dff@4ax.com>
In reply to#215238
On 14 Nov 2020 00:21:16 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2020-11-13, Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> wrote:
>
>> Robert Netzlof wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 5:16:32 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Why is it called RGB -- can you also get CMYK?
>>>>
>>>> You could, but black LEDs are generally considered to be defective for
>>>> some reason.
>>> 
>>> I believe you are actually thinking of the little-known Dark Emitting
>>> Diode, once promoted for use in constructing portable photographic
>>> darkrooms. With the decline in film photography in favor of digital,
>>> darkrooms and thus the DED declined in popularity until today, both are
>>> practically unknown.
>>
>> In the April issue of one of the old electronics magazines, a new 
>> development was announced.  By manufacturing LEDs and Darkness-Emitting 
>> Arsenide Diodes on the same production line, 100% yield was achieved.
>> They let the reader come up with the acronym for this new device.
>
>That must be what was in the all-black spaceship that Douglas Adams
>described in _The Restaurant at the End of the Universe_:
>
>    "It's the wild colour scheme that freaks me," said Zaphod,
>    whose love affair with this ship had lasted almost three
>    minutes into the flight.  "Every time you try to operate
>    one of these weird black controls that are labeled in black
>    on a black background, a little black light lights up black
>    to let you know you've done it.  What is this?  Some kind of
>    galactic hyperhearse?"
>
>Elsewhere I once read a description of a Noise-Emitting Diode,
>which would generate a loud (although brief) sound when you
>hooked it up to 110 volts AC.

I've encountered a similar device, the Smoke-Emitting Diode, although
that can easily be confused for a device from which the Magic Smoke
had escaped--the subsequent behaviors are rather similar so it's an
easy mistake to make.

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#215285 — National Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback)

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2020-11-15 12:09 +0000
SubjectNational Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback)
Message-ID<ror5p1$f8q$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de>
In reply to#215235
Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> schrieb:

> In the April issue of one of the old electronics magazines, a new 
> development was announced.  By manufacturing LEDs and Darkness-Emitting 
> Arsenide Diodes on the same production line, 100% yield was achieved.
> They let the reader come up with the acronym for this new device.

A few decades ago, I remember seeing a paper copy of a paper copy
of ... an issue of National Lampoon, dedicated to computers.

They had stuff in it like a Roman processor (no dvide by zero, and
burn-in at the Nero facility), IBM going into the Timex Sinclar
market niche (features an optional CPU, and optional keyboard,
...), negative prices for chips, the logical "NEVER", "FOREVER"
and "NEITHER" functions, and much more.

Does anybody else remember that, and is there some source to get
this issue somewhere?  I've looked, but didn't find it.

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#215286 — Re: National Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback)

FromMichael LeVine <mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com>
Date2020-11-15 04:17 -0800
SubjectRe: National Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback)
Message-ID<202011150417371444-mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com>
In reply to#215285
On 2020-11-15 12:09:05 +0000, Thomas Koenig said:

> Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> schrieb:
> 
>> In the April issue of one of the old electronics magazines, a new
>> development was announced.  By manufacturing LEDs and Darkness-Emitting
>> Arsenide Diodes on the same production line, 100% yield was achieved.
>> They let the reader come up with the acronym for this new device.
> 
> A few decades ago, I remember seeing a paper copy of a paper copy
> of ... an issue of National Lampoon, dedicated to computers.
> 
> They had stuff in it like a Roman processor (no dvide by zero, and
> burn-in at the Nero facility), IBM going into the Timex Sinclar
> market niche (features an optional CPU, and optional keyboard,
> ...), negative prices for chips, the logical "NEVER", "FOREVER"
> and "NEITHER" functions, and much more.
> 
> Does anybody else remember that, and is there some source to get
> this issue somewhere?  I've looked, but didn't find it.

Don't forget the Signetics WOM

http://repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/25120-bw.pdf
-- 
Michael LeVine
mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com

Politics is the art of looking for trouble,
finding it everywhere,
diagnosing it incorrectly,
and applying the wrong remedies.
		Groucho Marx

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#215290 — Re: National Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback)

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2020-11-15 18:03 +0000
SubjectRe: National Lampoon on computers and electronics (was: Blinken lights making a comeback)
Message-ID<rorqia0nln@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#215285
On 2020-11-15, Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:

> Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> schrieb:
>
>> In the April issue of one of the old electronics magazines, a new 
>> development was announced.  By manufacturing LEDs and Darkness-Emitting 
>> Arsenide Diodes on the same production line, 100% yield was achieved.
>> They let the reader come up with the acronym for this new device.
>
> A few decades ago, I remember seeing a paper copy of a paper copy
> of ... an issue of National Lampoon, dedicated to computers.
>
> They had stuff in it like a Roman processor (no dvide by zero, and
> burn-in at the Nero facility), IBM going into the Timex Sinclar
> market niche (features an optional CPU, and optional keyboard,
> ...), negative prices for chips, the logical "NEVER", "FOREVER"
> and "NEITHER" functions, and much more.
>
> Does anybody else remember that, and is there some source to get
> this issue somewhere?  I've looked, but didn't find it.

I don't remember seeing that one, although my days of reading
National Lampoon probably predated that issue.

One of my favourite logical operations was DON'T DO WHILE NOT.

I guess this will lead us back to those famous mainframe-era
lists of new instruction sets featuring instructions like

    Rewind and Break Tape
    Execute Operator
    Branch on Blinking Indicator
    Branch on Burned-Out Indicator
    Forms Skip and Runaway
    Why Immediate
    Halt and Catch Fire (popular in Hollywood computers)

    PBPBPBP - Place Backup in Plain Brown Paper Bag Please

Et cetera...

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)

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