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| Started by | Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2020-10-25 16:47 -0700 |
| Last post | 2021-01-14 22:15 +0000 |
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Computers on TV Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 16:47 -0700
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 05:55 +0000
Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 10:10 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 11:13 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 09:19 -0700
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 12:52 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-26 18:05 +0000
Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 19:20 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0500
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:10 -0400
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:05 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 06:12 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 15:40 -0700
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 18:17 -0500
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 00:04 -0400
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 23:39 -0400
Re: Computers on TV scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-27 14:44 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 09:15 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 09:19 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 17:11 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 15:42 -0700
Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 15:53 -0700
Re: Computers on TV "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-04 13:49 +0000
Re: Computers on TV drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-10-26 16:05 -0500
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 08:27 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:55 -0500
Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 13:03 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 08:18 -0500
Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 14:25 +0000
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 11:57 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-26 18:05 +0000
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:07 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 17:26 -0700
Re: Computers on TV Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-07 17:48 +0000
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 11:54 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2020-10-26 22:51 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 12:54 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-26 13:24 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:06 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 17:23 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 17:36 -0500
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 00:08 -0400
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 00:06 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 22:34 +0000
Re: Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 09:52 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 10:07 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 15:36 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:41 -0500
Re: Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 08:32 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 15:22 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-27 17:35 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-10-27 11:08 -0700
Re: Computers on TV scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-27 18:32 +0000
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 18:00 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 18:27 +0000
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 18:01 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-28 08:22 +0000
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 11:40 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 19:56 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 13:39 -0500
Re: Computers on TV David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2020-11-07 22:38 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-10-26 19:13 -0300
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 17:33 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 06:19 +0000
Re: Computers on TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-10-27 20:40 +0100
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 16:31 -0500
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 18:02 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 17:15 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 18:30 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-28 08:56 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 14:53 -0500
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:13 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 19:22 -0400
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 22:22 -0400
Re: Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:42 -0600
Re: Computers on TV Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-30 20:12 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 08:44 -0500
Re: Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 08:40 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-10-28 19:34 -0300
Re: Computers on TV scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-26 14:38 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-26 18:05 +0000
Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:08 -0400
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 06:25 +0000
Re: Computers on TV usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-10-29 20:05 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-26 19:46 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 20:57 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-27 06:26 +0000
Re: Computers on TV ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2020-10-27 16:07 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:31 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-12-21 12:16 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-12-21 11:35 -0600
Re: Computers on TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-12-21 17:54 +0000
Re: Computers on TV jtmpreno <none@znet.com> - 2020-12-21 09:57 -0800
Re: Computers on TV Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-12-21 17:05 -0500
Re: Computers on TV Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-12-22 00:05 -0500
Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-12-21 18:41 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-12-21 20:11 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-12-21 19:28 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-01-14 22:04 +0100
Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-12-21 23:05 +0000
Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-22 08:05 -0800
Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-12-22 12:14 -0600
Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-12-22 19:23 +0000
Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-12-22 19:21 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-22 08:00 -0800
Re: Computers on TV Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-12-25 20:05 +0000
Re: Computers on TV Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 22:15 +0000
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2013900044.625526771.249417.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #214992 |
Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: > On 2020-10-27, Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> schrieb: >> >>> But now a self-flying car should be easier to develop than a self-driving >>> car, seeing as there are fewer unexpected things up there. >> >> But no safe mode to fall back to. A car that stops due to some >> failure is relatively safe, unless it's in the middle of a busy lane >> on a motorway. An air car that stops due to some failure does what? > > Perhaps one could include the ability to autorotate (if rotor based) or > glide (if fixed-wing). Not easy to implement safely, though (you still > need a safe spot to land!), and would require variable-pitch > rotors/propellers in the rotor case. > Helicopter design is particularly dangerous, since the thing does drop like a brick if the engine fails. At least with a fixed-wing plane you have _some_ chance of gliding to a landing. I wonder if a quad-copter can tolerate s single engine failure. Maybe some programming to compensate for the loss of balance, at least to allow the thing to land. -- Pete
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-10-27 19:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <2ochpfh88ee0ms3muv0sja0c9jgrmcdhij@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215020 |
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 15:56:57 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: >> On 2020-10-27, Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: >>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> schrieb: >>> >>>> But now a self-flying car should be easier to develop than a self-driving >>>> car, seeing as there are fewer unexpected things up there. >>> >>> But no safe mode to fall back to. A car that stops due to some >>> failure is relatively safe, unless it's in the middle of a busy lane >>> on a motorway. An air car that stops due to some failure does what? >> >> Perhaps one could include the ability to autorotate (if rotor based) or >> glide (if fixed-wing). Not easy to implement safely, though (you still >> need a safe spot to land!), and would require variable-pitch >> rotors/propellers in the rotor case. >> > >Helicopter design is particularly dangerous, since the thing does drop like >a brick if the engine fails. It drops, but it it also stores up a shitload of kinetic energy in the rotor. > At least with a fixed-wing plane you have >_some_ chance of gliding to a landing. And with a helicopter you fly it like an autogyro until you find a landing spot then expend the kinetic energy in the rotor stopping the rate of descent. >I wonder if a quad-copter can >tolerate s single engine failure. Maybe some programming to compensate for >the loss of balance, at least to allow the thing to land. The ones that are being developed as manned vehicles are not quad-copters. They have far more engines and propellers than that and yes, they can tolerate an engine out. Or two or three depending on the design.
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| From | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| Date | 2020-10-27 13:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rn9pht$e2u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #214985 |
On 10/27/2020 12:35 PM, Thomas Koenig wrote: > Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> schrieb: > >> But now a self-flying car should be easier to develop than a self-driving >> car, seeing as there are fewer unexpected things up there. > > But no safe mode to fall back to. A car that stops due to some > failure is relatively safe, unless it's in the middle of a busy lane > on a motorway. An air car that stops due to some failure does what? > Ejection seats?
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| From | David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-07 22:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ro77lk$5ko$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #214995 |
Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> writes: >> But no safe mode to fall back to. A car that stops due to some >> failure is relatively safe, unless it's in the middle of a busy lane >> on a motorway. An air car that stops due to some failure does what? >Ejection seats? And the folks underneath them? -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close.......................... Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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| From | Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> |
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| Date | 2020-10-26 19:13 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <87v9ewmy97.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> |
| In reply to | #214910 |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: > On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:27:16 -0400 > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Transparent screens do exist--google "head up display"--but they are > > Sure but nobody wants a transparent, blackboard sized computer > monitor like the ones depicted in films and TV. Maps. Greater London, Appalachian trail, galaxy far, far away, all same. Zoom in/zoom out on small screen dosn't make it. -- Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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| From | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| Date | 2020-10-26 17:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rn7irs$490$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #214947 |
On 10/26/2020 5:13 PM, Mike Spencer wrote: > Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: > >> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:27:16 -0400 >> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Transparent screens do exist--google "head up display"--but they are >> >> Sure but nobody wants a transparent, blackboard sized computer >> monitor like the ones depicted in films and TV. > > Maps. Greater London, Appalachian trail, galaxy far, far away, all > same. Zoom in/zoom out on small screen dosn't make it. > I did something once that gave me a feel of what a transparent screen might look like. We were moving offices and they took down my large whiteboard. The door to my office was transparent. So, I started writing with the marker pens on that glass door. I liked it!
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2020-10-27 06:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20201027061944.7ed0759de80aab03df4bb690@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #214947 |
On 26 Oct 2020 19:13:40 -0300 Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote: > > Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: > > > On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:27:16 -0400 > > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Transparent screens do exist--google "head up display"--but they are > > > > Sure but nobody wants a transparent, blackboard sized computer > > monitor like the ones depicted in films and TV. > > Maps. Greater London, Appalachian trail, galaxy far, far away, all > same. Zoom in/zoom out on small screen dosn't make it. Sure size is good for many things, but why on earth would you want the display to be transparent ? What use is the reversed display visible from the back and why would you want to see whatever is behind the display through what is being displayed. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-10-27 20:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lm9m6h-ucr.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #214972 |
On 27/10/2020 07.19, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On 26 Oct 2020 19:13:40 -0300 > Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote: > >> >> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: >> >>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:27:16 -0400 >>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Transparent screens do exist--google "head up display"--but they are >>> >>> Sure but nobody wants a transparent, blackboard sized computer >>> monitor like the ones depicted in films and TV. >> >> Maps. Greater London, Appalachian trail, galaxy far, far away, all >> same. Zoom in/zoom out on small screen dosn't make it. > > Sure size is good for many things, but why on earth would you want > the display to be transparent ? What use is the reversed display visible > from the back and why would you want to see whatever is behind the display > through what is being displayed. It gives an appearance to the room of been bigger or less packed. There was a transparent map (so not an active display) used on a movie of a submarine or surface vessel - I don't know if that was film fantasy creation or if the military actually use them. Seems to me they can shatter to pieces on impact during battle. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| Date | 2020-10-27 16:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rna3k8$n33$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #215003 |
On 10/27/2020 2:40 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > There was a transparent map (so not an active display) used on a movie of a submarine or surface > vessel - I don't know if that was film fantasy creation or if the military actually use them. Seems > to me they can shatter to pieces on impact during battle. > The movie Avatar features transparent screens https://listverse.com/2018/11/29/10-futuristic-technologies-of-avatar-that-we-already-have/
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-10-27 18:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <366hpf1g4e78ri31m495kpmvdbs19fu0p5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215009 |
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:31:50 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote: >On 10/27/2020 2:40 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> There was a transparent map (so not an active display) used on a movie of a submarine or surface >> vessel - I don't know if that was film fantasy creation or if the military actually use them. Seems >> to me they can shatter to pieces on impact during battle. >> > >The movie Avatar features transparent screens > >https://listverse.com/2018/11/29/10-futuristic-technologies-of-avatar-that-we-already-have/ It features many things that are not real. However at one time some warships had transparent situation boards on which one drew with a grease pencil.
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| From | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| Date | 2020-10-27 17:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rna66p$bph$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #215014 |
On 10/27/2020 5:02 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > However at one time some warships had transparent situation boards on > which one drew with a grease pencil. > I would imagine that in confined spaces I would enjoy not having my view of my surroundings blocked by always opaque screens. I would probably have to try it to see what real difference it makes, At least I have lived long enough to enjoy thin opaque screens. I am sharing a room with ten of them at the moment. They are wrapped around me in a horseshoe pattern. My son stacks his vertically. Mine are all sitting on the same plane.
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-10-27 18:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rna71b$d4p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #215015 |
Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> writes: > On 10/27/2020 5:02 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >> However at one time some warships had transparent situation boards on >> which one drew with a grease pencil. >> > > I would imagine that in confined spaces I would enjoy not having my > view of my surroundings blocked by always opaque screens. I would > probably have to try it to see what real difference it makes, At least > I have lived long enough to enjoy thin opaque screens. I am sharing a > room with ten of them at the moment. They are wrapped around me in a > horseshoe pattern. > > My son stacks his vertically. Mine are all sitting on the same plane. So, you change your chair position for each monitor you use? I have one 27" 3840x2160 display. I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage. Every once in a while I think of making it a second display. But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use. -- Dan Espen
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2020-10-28 08:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20201028085612.5d7bcda579d58fb98c793937@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #215016 |
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:30:03 -0400 Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > I have one 27" 3840x2160 display. > I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage. > Every once in a while I think of making it a second display. > But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use. Hmm my work environment consists of a 15" 4k laptop with two 27" 4k monitors - it's all in use under normal working conditions with about half the screen area devoted to communications tools of one sort or another, a third to reference (ie. web browser) and the real work takes place in a terminal window talking to a tmux session occupying about a third of one monitor. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2105275610.625599136.806333.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #215028 |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:30:03 -0400 > Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have one 27" 3840x2160 display. >> I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage. >> Every once in a while I think of making it a second display. >> But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use. > > Hmm my work environment consists of a 15" 4k laptop with two > 27" 4k monitors - it's all in use under normal working conditions with > about half the screen area devoted to communications tools of one sort or > another, a third to reference (ie. web browser) and the real work takes > place in a terminal window talking to a tmux session occupying about a > third of one monitor. > Similar here. I tend to load the screen up with windows until I can’t find anything any more and minimize a bunch. I think I probably have 15 or so open now: a bunch of edit windows and usually three or four terminal windows, plus occasionally a browser and various LO stuff. I should get used to using multiple screens- sometimes I run VirtualBox or an emulator in its own screen. -- Pete
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| From | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| Date | 2020-10-28 14:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rnci7k$no6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #215045 |
On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote: > Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:30:03 -0400 >> Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I have one 27" 3840x2160 display. >>> I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage. >>> Every once in a while I think of making it a second display. >>> But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use. >> >> Hmm my work environment consists of a 15" 4k laptop with two >> 27" 4k monitors - it's all in use under normal working conditions with >> about half the screen area devoted to communications tools of one sort or >> another, a third to reference (ie. web browser) and the real work takes >> place in a terminal window talking to a tmux session occupying about a >> third of one monitor. >> > > Similar here. I tend to load the screen up with windows until I can’t find > anything any more and minimize a bunch. I think I probably have 15 or so > open now: a bunch of edit windows and usually three or four terminal > windows, plus occasionally a browser and various LO stuff. I should get > used to using multiple screens- sometimes I run VirtualBox or an emulator > in its own screen. > Multiple screens are really great when they are the same size. Right now I am using a large screen and a laptop's screen. A bit awkward to stretch a window across the two screens of different sizes and resolutions. At work the IT person tries hard to match us up with two identical models of monitors. I really appreciate that! That way they sit on identical stands and the screens fit together so nicely. I even put a strip of painters tape across the back connecting the monitors so I do not see any light between them.
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-10-28 16:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <r3kjpflp5gfej6km9utcb0cc49ta11pg2i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215052 |
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:53:22 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote: >On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote: >> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:30:03 -0400 >>> Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I have one 27" 3840x2160 display. >>>> I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage. >>>> Every once in a while I think of making it a second display. >>>> But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use. >>> >>> Hmm my work environment consists of a 15" 4k laptop with two >>> 27" 4k monitors - it's all in use under normal working conditions with >>> about half the screen area devoted to communications tools of one sort or >>> another, a third to reference (ie. web browser) and the real work takes >>> place in a terminal window talking to a tmux session occupying about a >>> third of one monitor. >>> >> >> Similar here. I tend to load the screen up with windows until I can’t find >> anything any more and minimize a bunch. I think I probably have 15 or so >> open now: a bunch of edit windows and usually three or four terminal >> windows, plus occasionally a browser and various LO stuff. I should get >> used to using multiple screens- sometimes I run VirtualBox or an emulator >> in its own screen. >> > >Multiple screens are really great when they are the same size. > >Right now I am using a large screen and a laptop's screen. >A bit awkward to stretch a window across the two screens of different sizes and resolutions. > >At work the IT person tries hard to match us up with two identical models of monitors. >I really appreciate that! That way they sit on identical stands and the screens fit together so >nicely. >I even put a strip of painters tape across the back connecting the monitors so I do not see any >light between them. At work I have two identical 2K 21 inch monitors. At home I have one 49" 4K. Only real downside I've found to the 4K is that I can't maximize a video to a quarter of the screen, it's all or nothing with any video player that I've been able to find.
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-10-28 19:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rncufa$s0j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #215057 |
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: > On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:53:22 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote: > >>On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote: >>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:30:03 -0400 >>>> Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have one 27" 3840x2160 display. >>>>> I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage. >>>>> Every once in a while I think of making it a second display. >>>>> But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use. >>>> >>>> Hmm my work environment consists of a 15" 4k laptop with two >>>> 27" 4k monitors - it's all in use under normal working conditions with >>>> about half the screen area devoted to communications tools of one sort or >>>> another, a third to reference (ie. web browser) and the real work takes >>>> place in a terminal window talking to a tmux session occupying about a >>>> third of one monitor. >>>> >>> >>> Similar here. I tend to load the screen up with windows until I can’t find >>> anything any more and minimize a bunch. I think I probably have 15 or so >>> open now: a bunch of edit windows and usually three or four terminal >>> windows, plus occasionally a browser and various LO stuff. I should get >>> used to using multiple screens- sometimes I run VirtualBox or an emulator >>> in its own screen. >>> >> >>Multiple screens are really great when they are the same size. >> >>Right now I am using a large screen and a laptop's screen. >>A bit awkward to stretch a window across the two screens of different sizes and resolutions. >> >>At work the IT person tries hard to match us up with two identical models of monitors. >>I really appreciate that! That way they sit on identical stands and the screens fit together so >>nicely. >>I even put a strip of painters tape across the back connecting the monitors so I do not see any >>light between them. > > At work I have two identical 2K 21 inch monitors. At home I have one > 49" 4K. Only real downside I've found to the 4K is that I can't > maximize a video to a quarter of the screen, it's all or nothing with > any video player that I've been able to find. Pretty sure you can do something like that with xrandr. With Fvwm2, I'd try playing the video in a window but tell Fvwm2 to remove the title bar and frame. Then arrange the windows side by side. Yeah, I know. Windows? No clue. I think monitors can be too big, I'm at 27" and not seeing any reason to go larger. -- Dan Espen
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-10-28 22:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <hn9kpf9cd6ml6cd1378fjsjr0qqhjf44es@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215064 |
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:22:18 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:53:22 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote: >> >>>On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote: >>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:30:03 -0400 >>>>> Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have one 27" 3840x2160 display. >>>>>> I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage. >>>>>> Every once in a while I think of making it a second display. >>>>>> But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use. >>>>> >>>>> Hmm my work environment consists of a 15" 4k laptop with two >>>>> 27" 4k monitors - it's all in use under normal working conditions with >>>>> about half the screen area devoted to communications tools of one sort or >>>>> another, a third to reference (ie. web browser) and the real work takes >>>>> place in a terminal window talking to a tmux session occupying about a >>>>> third of one monitor. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Similar here. I tend to load the screen up with windows until I can’t find >>>> anything any more and minimize a bunch. I think I probably have 15 or so >>>> open now: a bunch of edit windows and usually three or four terminal >>>> windows, plus occasionally a browser and various LO stuff. I should get >>>> used to using multiple screens- sometimes I run VirtualBox or an emulator >>>> in its own screen. >>>> >>> >>>Multiple screens are really great when they are the same size. >>> >>>Right now I am using a large screen and a laptop's screen. >>>A bit awkward to stretch a window across the two screens of different sizes and resolutions. >>> >>>At work the IT person tries hard to match us up with two identical models of monitors. >>>I really appreciate that! That way they sit on identical stands and the screens fit together so >>>nicely. >>>I even put a strip of painters tape across the back connecting the monitors so I do not see any >>>light between them. >> >> At work I have two identical 2K 21 inch monitors. At home I have one >> 49" 4K. Only real downside I've found to the 4K is that I can't >> maximize a video to a quarter of the screen, it's all or nothing with >> any video player that I've been able to find. > >Pretty sure you can do something like that with xrandr. >With Fvwm2, I'd try playing the video in a window but >tell Fvwm2 to remove the title bar and frame. >Then arrange the windows side by side. > >Yeah, I know. Windows? No clue. > >I think monitors can be too big, I'm at 27" and not seeing any reason to >go larger. You will. I learned about the joys of really big monitors helping a friend who was slowly losing his eyesight. He ended up with a 55" just before he kicked it--at about 500% magnification he could get text big enough to read, with enough on screen at one time to not be totally useless.
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-02 15:42 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <8av0qfho6601dbd4joicrdgpvo8lvu8tho@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215064 |
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:22:18 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:53:22 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote: >> >>>On 10/28/2020 12:36 PM, Peter Flass wrote: >>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:30:03 -0400 >>>>> Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have one 27" 3840x2160 display. >>>>>> I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage. >>>>>> Every once in a while I think of making it a second display. >>>>>> But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use. >>>>> >>>>> Hmm my work environment consists of a 15" 4k laptop with two >>>>> 27" 4k monitors - it's all in use under normal working conditions with >>>>> about half the screen area devoted to communications tools of one sort or >>>>> another, a third to reference (ie. web browser) and the real work takes >>>>> place in a terminal window talking to a tmux session occupying about a >>>>> third of one monitor. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Similar here. I tend to load the screen up with windows until I can’t find >>>> anything any more and minimize a bunch. I think I probably have 15 or so >>>> open now: a bunch of edit windows and usually three or four terminal >>>> windows, plus occasionally a browser and various LO stuff. I should get >>>> used to using multiple screens- sometimes I run VirtualBox or an emulator >>>> in its own screen. >>>> >>> >>>Multiple screens are really great when they are the same size. >>> >>>Right now I am using a large screen and a laptop's screen. >>>A bit awkward to stretch a window across the two screens of different sizes and resolutions. >>> >>>At work the IT person tries hard to match us up with two identical models of monitors. >>>I really appreciate that! That way they sit on identical stands and the screens fit together so >>>nicely. >>>I even put a strip of painters tape across the back connecting the monitors so I do not see any >>>light between them. >> >> At work I have two identical 2K 21 inch monitors. At home I have one >> 49" 4K. Only real downside I've found to the 4K is that I can't >> maximize a video to a quarter of the screen, it's all or nothing with >> any video player that I've been able to find. > >Pretty sure you can do something like that with xrandr. >With Fvwm2, I'd try playing the video in a window but >tell Fvwm2 to remove the title bar and frame. >Then arrange the windows side by side. > >Yeah, I know. Windows? No clue. > >I think monitors can be too big, I'm at 27" and not seeing any reason to >go larger. Mine is 40", but I use it to play an MMO, Everquest II. -- Jim
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| From | Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> |
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| Date | 2020-10-30 20:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrpostf.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> |
| In reply to | #215028 |
On Wed, 2020-10-28, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:30:03 -0400
> Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have one 27" 3840x2160 display.
>> I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage.
>> Every once in a while I think of making it a second display.
>> But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use.
Not a bad choice, if you don't waste space on nonsense.
That was how I worked at my previous workplace. Everyone got two
monitors, I said I only needed one, my second eventually became
someone's third.
> Hmm my work environment consists of a 15" 4k laptop with two
> 27" 4k monitors - it's all in use under normal working conditions with
> about half the screen area devoted to communications tools of one sort or
> another, a third to reference (ie. web browser) and the real work takes
> place in a terminal window talking to a tmux session occupying about a
> third of one monitor.
Kind of like mine now.
- laptop: always with the lid down
- 20-something-inch monitor: Windows desktop (not my choice)
with browser and communication
- 27" monitor with a VirtualBox VM in fullscreen
- an X11 display with (in ctwm) four virtual desktops
- #1: programming. An emacs and a screen(1) session
- around a dozen terminals in the screen session
- #2: test environment. a screen(1) session and sometimes a GUI
- a few terminals in the screen session
- #3: the lab environment. A screen(1) session with
- a dozen terminals, usually logged in on various servers in the lab
- #4: empty, to be used in emergencies
Most of the others at work use the laptop screen, too, and all have
the same external monitors. A few have one in portrait mode. Some use
tabbed window managers in X11, which gives the whole screen a
screen(1) or tmux(1) feel.
/Jorgen
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// Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . .
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