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  The Return Of Cassette Tape Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-23 23:43 +0000
    Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 02:47 +0000
      Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-25 11:25 +0100
        Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 20:34 +0800
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? jerryab <jerryab@juno.com> - 2026-08-25 09:39 -0500
          [OT] Arguably unreasonable crossposts (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 18:37 +0100
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:16 +0000
            Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 19:47 +0800
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-08-26 16:42 +0700
            Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 19:44 +0800
              Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-28 08:05 -0700
                Re: The Return Of .... ink+pen+paper? clay tablet? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-29 10:23 +0800
              Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2026-08-28 11:39 -0400
                Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-28 13:07 -0700
                  Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-28 17:36 -0500
                    Re: The Return Of ... Dark Age? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-29 10:33 +0800
                  Re: The Return Of .... monks laboriously copying a manuscript by hand? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-29 10:26 +0800
                  Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:38 +0200
                    Re: The Return Of ... replication old things? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-30 04:43 +0800
                    Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:02 +0000
                Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-28 22:20 +0000
                Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-29 03:51 -0400
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-26 19:50 +1000
            Re: The Return Of .... Time of creation? "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-29 10:36 +0800
        Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 21:35 +0000
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-26 01:34 +0200
            Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:23 +0000
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:21 +0000
            Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-27 12:02 -0400
              Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 21:12 +0000
                Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-27 14:18 -0700
                  Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-27 21:48 +0000
        Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:14 +0000
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-26 15:02 +0000
            Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:54 +0200
              Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 00:48 +0000
                Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 08:39 +0200
                  Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 21:10 +0000
              Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-28 14:53 +0000
                Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-28 22:22 +0000
                Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-lo6-this> - 2026-08-29 08:39 -0700
                  Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-29 15:47 -0400
                    Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-29 20:16 +0000
                      Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-29 21:07 +0000
                      Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-30 12:18 -0400
                        Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-30 20:36 +0000
                          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-31 03:09 +0000
                            Connector, plugs and socket naming (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 10:18 +0100
                              Re: Connector, plugs and socket naming (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-31 10:18 +0000
                                Re: [CORRECTION] Connector, plugs and socket naming (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-31 10:24 +0000
                  Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:31 +0000
                    Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 10:24 +0100
                      Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 20:00 +0000
                    Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 06:48 -0700
                      Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-30 15:49 +0000
                        Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-08-30 12:48 -0700
                          Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-31 13:04 +0200
                      Re: Old cables and other things to hoard (Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape) scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-09-11 15:16 +0000
                    Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-31 09:22 -0700
                Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2026-09-11 14:46 +0000
            Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-27 01:22 +0000
        Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Daniel <me@fuhgitabutit.com> - 2026-08-28 01:09 -0700
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Bob Eager <throwaway0008@eager.cx> - 2026-08-28 11:43 +0000
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 08:45 -0700
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 21:35 +0000
            Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-08-29 00:20 +0000
            Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-29 09:55 -0400
    Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-25 15:07 -0400
      Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 05:13 +0000
        Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-26 18:08 +0000
          Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 00:45 +0000
        Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-27 11:58 -0400
    Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-08-26 14:11 +0000
      Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 00:52 +0000
        Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 08:44 +0200

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#235350 — The Return Of Cassette Tape

Maxell is partnering with another company to bring out a new line of
audio cassette tapes
<https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/maxell-partners-with-disk-union-to-release-ud-60u-special-edition-cassettes-black-and-red-ud-tapes-could-be-ideal-for-use-in-your-c64-datassette>.

These are “Type I” (ferric oxide) tapes, not the best fidelity for
audio recordings, due to their poorer high-frequency response.
However, the article suggests that retrocomputing enthusiasts trying
to relive the (very early) days of using cassettes as a data-storage
medium might be interested:

    Nevertheless, ferric tapes are ideal for 8-bit home computer tape
    storage. They would be perfect partners to a C64 Datassette, or
    for any tape interface you may have used with a VIC-20, Plus/4, ZX
    Spectrum, Amstrad CPC, MSX, BBC Micro, and so on. The square-ish
    digital pulses used to encode data to audio (and read it back) are
    actually in the sweet spot for ferric tape on low-end mechanisms.

My immediate thought is: “you got to be kidding, right?” Not that I
have personal experience of such usage, but everything I’ve heard says
that they were clunky, slow, unreliable, frustrating, and basically a
sheer pain to use as a computer data/program storage medium. Who would
want to willingly suffer through those days again?

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#235353

On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 23:43:49 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> My immediate thought is: “you got to be kidding, right?” Not that I have
> personal experience of such usage, but everything I’ve heard says that
> they were clunky, slow, unreliable, frustrating, and basically a sheer
> pain to use as a computer data/program storage medium. Who would want to
> willingly suffer through those days again?

After seeing an ad for the Sinclair ZX-81 which was under 100 USD in the 
kit form, I had to see what you got for that money. 32 character wide 
display via a RF modulator and your TV, a membrane keyboard, and program 
storage on a Walkman cassette player. It wasn't a high point in my 
computing experience. It did make an adequate doorstop.

It's not a fair comparison because of the price but the Trash-80 and 
Commodore PET 4000 series had moved away from tape by then. iirc the 
VIC-20 went back to the purpose build external cassette drive from the PET 
2000 series.

The good old days...  

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#235365

On 24 Aug 2026 02:47:06 GMT
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 23:43:49 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> 
> > My immediate thought is: “you got to be kidding, right?” Not that I have
> > personal experience of such usage, but everything I’ve heard says that
> > they were clunky, slow, unreliable, frustrating, and basically a sheer
> > pain to use as a computer data/program storage medium. Who would want to
> > willingly suffer through those days again?
> 
> After seeing an ad for the Sinclair ZX-81 which was under 100 USD in the 
> kit form, I had to see what you got for that money. 32 character wide 
> display via a RF modulator and your TV, a membrane keyboard, and program 
> storage on a Walkman cassette player. It wasn't a high point in my 
> computing experience. It did make an adequate doorstop.
> 
> It's not a fair comparison because of the price but the Trash-80 and 
> Commodore PET 4000 series had moved away from tape by then. iirc the 
> VIC-20 went back to the purpose build external cassette drive from the PET 
> 2000 series.
> 
> The good old days...  


So where's the floppy drive revival?!!

-- 
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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#235366 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On 8/25/2026 6:25 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> 
> So where's the floppy drive revival?!!
> 


And the punch cards?

How about employee clock-in machines
that actually punch cards? I am not
talking about 100% electronic ones.

I am talking about physical punching
clock-in machines, not contactless
ones.

Meow....

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#235367 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 20:34:46 +0800, "Mr. Chang Man-wai"
<toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

>I am talking about physical punching
>clock-in machines, not contactless
>ones.

Wile E Coyote....using an Acme product.

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#235371 — [OT] Arguably unreasonable crossposts (was: Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?)

On 2026-08-25, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:
[...]

Could you please explain why are you crossposting to unrelated groups,
be it hexes or windows-{10,11}? And why are you not setting a
Followup-To?

I don't mean you can't do what you're doing (nor do I mean you should do
it...), I mean I want to take a try at understanding why are you doing
it.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#235381 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 20:34:46 +0800, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:

> How about employee clock-in machines that actually punch cards? I am not
> talking about 100% electronic ones.

I never saw on that would punch the card, just stamp the date and time 
with a loud clunk.

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#235412 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On 8/26/2026 1:16 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 20:34:46 +0800, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:
> 
>> How about employee clock-in machines that actually punch cards? I am not
>> talking about 100% electronic ones.
> 
> I never saw on that would punch the card, just stamp the date and time
> with a loud clunk.

That unique, mechanical sound is a good
sign of something happened, unlike
stupid beeps and flashing LEDs. :)

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#235385 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On 8/25/2026 6:25 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> 
> So where's the floppy drive revival?!!
> 

They've been emulated from solid drive.

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#235411 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On 8/26/2026 5:42 PM, JJ wrote:
> On 8/25/2026 6:25 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>
>> So where's the floppy drive revival?!!
> 
> They've been emulated from solid drive.


Nothing can replace the durability and
certainty of ink, pen/stamp and paper.
They are physical, unlike electronics
including computers and cellphones.
Of course, there was/is fake and/or
fading inks. Meow.... :)

-- 

    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw
          The game is afoot... Meow...

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#235416 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On 8/28/26 04:44, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:
> On 8/26/2026 5:42 PM, JJ wrote:
>> On 8/25/2026 6:25 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>
>>> So where's the floppy drive revival?!!
>>
>> They've been emulated from solid drive.
> 
> 
> Nothing can replace the durability and
> certainty of ink, pen/stamp and paper.
> They are physical, unlike electronics
> including computers and cellphones.
> Of course, there was/is fake and/or
> fading inks. Meow.... :)
> 

Except for clay tablets baked in a good, hot fire.

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#235434 — Re: The Return Of .... ink+pen+paper? clay tablet?

On 8/28/2026 11:05 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
> On 8/28/26 04:44, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:
>>
>> Nothing can replace the durability and
>> certainty of ink, pen/stamp and paper.
>> ....
> 
> Except for clay tablets baked in a good, hot fire.

You can use modern computer technology to
produce clay tablets. It's just impact
printing back in the days of dot-matrix
printers, Professor! And even older tech
that is type-writer!!! ;)

The Babylonian Map of the World with Irving Finkel
| Curator’s Corner S9 Ep5 - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUxFzh8r384>

Leroy Anderson Ritvélin The Typewriter - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiXTyqaOFnE>

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    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw
          The game is afoot... Meow...

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#235417 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On 08/28/2026 7:44 AM, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:
> On 8/26/2026 5:42 PM, JJ wrote:
>> On 8/25/2026 6:25 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>
>>> So where's the floppy drive revival?!!
>>
>> They've been emulated from solid drive.
> 
> 
> Nothing can replace the durability and
> certainty of ink, pen/stamp and paper.
> They are physical, unlike electronics
> including computers and cellphones.
> Of course, there was/is fake and/or
> fading inks. Meow.... :)
> 
That is one thing that bothers me, If the many pages of my genealogy 
work were on paper, I could be found 100 years from now, be read. 
Barring catastrophe.  The failure of an organization, or an unfortunate 
press of he delete key could remove 20 years of work.  I wonder it my 
hard drives would even be readable in 100 year.

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#235422 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On 8/28/26 08:39, knuttle wrote:
> On 08/28/2026 7:44 AM, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:
>> On 8/26/2026 5:42 PM, JJ wrote:
>>> On 8/25/2026 6:25 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So where's the floppy drive revival?!!
>>>
>>> They've been emulated from solid drive.
>>
>>
>> Nothing can replace the durability and
>> certainty of ink, pen/stamp and paper.
>> They are physical, unlike electronics
>> including computers and cellphones.
>> Of course, there was/is fake and/or
>> fading inks. Meow.... :)
>>
> That is one thing that bothers me, If the many pages of my genealogy 
> work were on paper, I could be found 100 years from now, be read. 
> Barring catastrophe.  The failure of an organization, or an unfortunate 
> press of he delete key could remove 20 years of work.  I wonder it my 
> hard drives would even be readable in 100 year.

The benefit is digital is replication. Instead of a roomful of monks 
laboriously copying a manuscript by hand, that one press of a button can 
replicate your work across the world.

Of course this is only as good as the systems supporting it. I wrote 
Ancestry asking what provisions they had for protecting my data in the 
event of a bankruptcy or similar catastrophe, and didn't get a very 
satisfying answer.

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#235426 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

Peter Flass wrote on 8/28/2026 3:07 PM:
> On 8/28/26 08:39, knuttle wrote:
>> On 08/28/2026 7:44 AM, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:
>>> On 8/26/2026 5:42 PM, JJ wrote:
>>>> On 8/25/2026 6:25 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So where's the floppy drive revival?!!
>>>>
>>>> They've been emulated from solid drive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing can replace the durability and
>>> certainty of ink, pen/stamp and paper.
>>> They are physical, unlike electronics
>>> including computers and cellphones.
>>> Of course, there was/is fake and/or
>>> fading inks. Meow.... :)
>>>
>> That is one thing that bothers me, If the many pages of my genealogy 
>> work were on paper, I could be found 100 years from now, be read. 
>> Barring catastrophe.  The failure of an organization, or an 
>> unfortunate press of he delete key could remove 20 years of work.  I 
>> wonder it my hard drives would even be readable in 100 year.
> 
> The benefit is digital is replication. Instead of a roomful of monks 
> laboriously copying a manuscript by hand, that one press of a button can 
> replicate your work across the world.
> 
> Of course this is only as good as the systems supporting it. I wrote 
> Ancestry asking what provisions they had for protecting my data in the 
> event of a bankruptcy or similar catastrophe, and didn't get a very 
> satisfying answer.

What?  Did ancestry fire all their monks?  That's a damn shame.

Bastards.

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#235436 — Re: The Return Of ... Dark Age?

On 8/29/2026 6:36 AM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> 
> What?  Did ancestry fire all their monks?  That's a damn shame.
Maybe it was NOT man-made, but by the
hands of Gods!?

Spontaneous human combustion - Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_human_combustion>

Avengers: Infinity War (2018) - "Snap Of Disintegration"
| Movie Clip HD - YouTube
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWhEgdh0X9c>

< 灰飛煙滅 : ㄏㄨㄟ ㄈㄟ ㄧㄢ ㄇㄧㄝˋ >
辭典檢視 - 教育部《重編國語辭典修訂本》2021
<https://dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/dictView.jsp?ID=84805&la=0&powerMode=0>

Crucifixion of Jesus - Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus>

Witch trials in the early modern period - Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials_in_the_early_modern_period>

歐洲黑暗時代 - 維基百科，自由的百科全書
<https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hk/%E6%AD%90%E6%B4%B2%E9%BB%91%E6%9A%97%E6%99%82%E4%BB%A3>
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#235435 — Re: The Return Of .... monks laboriously copying a manuscript by hand?

On 8/29/2026 4:07 AM, Peter Flass wrote:
> 
> The benefit is digital is replication. Instead of a roomful of monks
> laboriously copying a manuscript by hand, that one press of a button can
> replicate your work across the world.

You over-underestimated and over-looked
the Holy hands, fingers and FAITH!!

Machines are NOT flesh and blood,
Your Holiness. God's initial
creation does NOT have machines.

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#235464 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On 2026-08-28 22:07, Peter Flass wrote:
> On 8/28/26 08:39, knuttle wrote:
>> On 08/28/2026 7:44 AM, Mr. Chang Man-wai wrote:
>>> On 8/26/2026 5:42 PM, JJ wrote:
>>>> On 8/25/2026 6:25 PM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So where's the floppy drive revival?!!
>>>>
>>>> They've been emulated from solid drive.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing can replace the durability and
>>> certainty of ink, pen/stamp and paper.
>>> They are physical, unlike electronics
>>> including computers and cellphones.
>>> Of course, there was/is fake and/or
>>> fading inks. Meow.... :)
>>>
>> That is one thing that bothers me, If the many pages of my genealogy 
>> work were on paper, I could be found 100 years from now, be read. 
>> Barring catastrophe.  The failure of an organization, or an 
>> unfortunate press of he delete key could remove 20 years of work.  I 
>> wonder it my hard drives would even be readable in 100 year.
> 
> The benefit is digital is replication. Instead of a roomful of monks 
> laboriously copying a manuscript by hand, that one press of a button can 
> replicate your work across the world.

That is if you do it fast as technology changes. I can hardly replicate 
my data stored in hundreds of floppies. Even old hard disks are difficult.

> 
> Of course this is only as good as the systems supporting it. I wrote 
> Ancestry asking what provisions they had for protecting my data in the 
> event of a bankruptcy or similar catastrophe, and didn't get a very 
> satisfying answer.


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#235465 — Re: The Return Of ... replication old things?

On 8/30/2026 4:38 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-28 22:07, Peter Flass wrote:
>>
>> The benefit is digital is replication. Instead of a roomful of monks
>> laboriously copying a manuscript by hand, that one press of a button can
>> replicate your work across the world.
> 
> That is if you do it fast as technology changes. I can hardly replicate
> my data stored in hundreds of floppies. Even old hard disks are difficult.

Why do you and you wanna replicate
and copy things? To steal money
out of archeology objects?

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#235471 — Re: The Return Of Cassette Tape ... and punch cards?

On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 22:38:36 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2026-08-28 22:07, Peter Flass wrote:
>>
>> The benefit is digital is replication.
>
> That is if you do it fast as technology changes. I can hardly
> replicate my data stored in hundreds of floppies. Even old hard
> disks are difficult.

No, it isn’t really that hard, with the right equipment and skills.
Professional archivists do this as part of their job.

Oh, and proper use of data formats which were open to begin with ...

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