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| Started by | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| First post | 2021-11-01 13:52 -0400 |
| Last post | 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700 |
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Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-01 13:52 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-01 21:40 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-01 19:27 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-02 05:19 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-01 17:38 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2021-11-02 00:21 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 19:09 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-02 00:11 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-02 06:17 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-11-02 10:16 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 00:27 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-03 07:26 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-03 19:58 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 21:34 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 09:51 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-11-04 15:37 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:13 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-04 15:22 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:22 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 12:05 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-05 08:20 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 10:02 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:26 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-04 15:25 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-04 19:10 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-04 21:43 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-05 08:53 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 11:38 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 13:30 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-05 18:23 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 19:37 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Churchillian version John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-05 20:02 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:14 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:26 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 14:47 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 17:40 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:17 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 21:50 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-06 19:07 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-06 11:31 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-06 15:14 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-06 16:45 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-11-05 22:43 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:05 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:19 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 20:13 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 11:40 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-05 14:09 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:53 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 17:40 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 19:18 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 20:04 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 23:52 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-06 05:13 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:16 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> - 2021-11-04 07:17 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-04 15:47 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 20:34 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-m46-this> - 2021-11-05 07:08 -0800
Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-07 15:43 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 16:17 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:19 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 22:18 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-11-04 19:21 -0300
Re: Who Knew ? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2021-11-05 05:46 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-11-05 04:01 -0300
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:27 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:29 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-04 15:12 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 21:02 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-11-04 00:01 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:09 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 13:49 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 10:11 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 10:16 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-04 17:31 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-04 13:04 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 14:58 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-04 17:47 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:07 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 14:42 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-04 17:53 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 13:33 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-05 10:06 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2021-11-06 15:38 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:39 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 19:33 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 12:17 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 14:45 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 15:28 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 18:52 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 08:54 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 10:07 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-06 08:26 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 22:05 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:04 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 18:32 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-06 19:25 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-07 11:20 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 08:55 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 10:15 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-07 23:44 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-08 15:39 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-11-08 17:06 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom (Lawrence Statton (NK1G)) - 2021-11-09 19:06 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 09:51 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-08 10:52 -0700
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-08 19:14 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-08 12:09 -1000
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-08 22:38 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-09 15:30 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 14:57 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-11 15:03 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-11 17:02 -1000
Re: Alternate Who Knew ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-08 22:22 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 18:07 -0500
Re: military options, was Who Knew ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-09 01:58 +0000
Re: military options, was Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 23:17 -0500
Re: military options, was Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-09 10:02 -0500
Re: military options, was Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-08 22:51 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-08 22:35 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 09:09 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-11-14 18:45 +0100
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 12:39 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-15 00:43 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-16 08:58 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-16 16:57 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 10:54 -0600
Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-17 14:16 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 14:32 -0500
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 05:01 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 13:48 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-04 15:46 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-11-04 15:26 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-04 23:51 -0400
Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:37 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-05 08:54 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-05 13:49 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:08 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-11-05 22:17 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 22:46 +0000
Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
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| From | D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-17 10:54 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <6scapgdcftm03rtg1alg5i968a4lthd2t4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #219729 |
On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 16:57:11 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: >On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 12:39:19 -0600, D.J. wrote: >> >> On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 18:45:09 +0100, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> >> wrote: >>>On Mo 08 Nov 2021 at 10:52, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> You’d stage something like the NAZIs did with Poland >>>> where you get a couple of expendables killed and then blow it up into a big >>>> thing. >>> >>>It wasn't 'a couple of expendables' - it were prisoners from a >>>concentration camp. >> >> Exactly, they were dressed in Polish military uniforms. Goebbels >> claimed on the radio that they had attacked a German radio station in >> Germany. They were murdered, and it was made to look like they had >> attacked. > >The RAF also silenced a speech of Göring at some point. > ><https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/world-war-iis-strangest-bombing-mission-180974470/> > >One of the daring RAF operations. "Funny" that listeners on the radio >heard the roaring sound of the bomber's engines and exploding shells, >because it was a live transmission. *g* Wasn't it some party where he declared no Allied aircraft would bomb Germany ?
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-17 14:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87tugamw31.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #219730 |
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 10:54:29 -0600, D.J. wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 16:57:11 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach > <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: >> >>The RAF also silenced a speech of Göring at some point. >> >><https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/world-war-iis-strangest-bombing-mission-180974470/> >> >>One of the daring RAF operations. "Funny" that listeners on the radio >>heard the roaring sound of the bomber's engines and exploding shells, >>because it was a live transmission. *g* > > Wasn't it some party where he declared no Allied aircraft would bomb > Germany ? Yes, in September 1939, when being very confident after Poland was relatively easy and swift defeated. Göring then said his name was no longer Göring but Meyer (a very common German name, similar to the English "Miller"), if any single enemy plane would make it to the Ruhr. A few months later not only the Ruhr (relatively close to the British Island), but Berlin, deep in the German heartland, was bombed. Not much damage was done at first, but must have pissed him off. <https://www.historyhikes.org/hh-dispatches/you-can-call-me-meyer> -- Andreas https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-14 14:32 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <f1p2pg93pg0b7mktq5ogufcvnl4dqt2vgf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #219721 |
On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 18:45:09 +0100, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote: >On Mo 08 Nov 2021 at 10:52, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> You’d stage something like the NAZIs did with Poland >> where you get a couple of expendables killed and then blow it up into a big >> thing. > >It wasn't 'a couple of expendables' - it were prisoners from a >concentration camp. How does that make them "not expendable" to a Nazi?
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 05:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20211104050156.92fa931e48b6075c589ed95a@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #219554 |
On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 21:02:18 -0400 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > Besides we Linux people know WE are the best :-) Nah! Second best, BSD is the best :) -- Steve O'Hara-Smith Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 13:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <iui6lbFqi9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #219556 |
On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 05:01:56 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 21:02:18 -0400 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > >> Besides we Linux people know WE are the best :-) > > Nah! Second best, BSD is the best :) +1 -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 15:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ifTgJ.17841$lz3.7123@fx34.iad> |
| In reply to | #219560 |
Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes: >On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 05:01:56 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > >> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 21:02:18 -0400 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: >> >>> Besides we Linux people know WE are the best :-) >> >> Nah! Second best, BSD is the best :) > >+1 -2. See the pdp10 usenet group for a recent example of where BSD falls down. SVR4 forever! :-)
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| From | Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 15:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mddbl2zn2mr.fsf@panix5.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #219563 |
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:
> >On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 05:01:56 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 21:02:18 -0400 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Besides we Linux people know WE are the best :-)
> >>
> >> Nah! Second best, BSD is the best :)
> >
> >+1
>
> -2.
>
> See the pdp10 usenet group for a recent example of where BSD falls down.
>
> SVR4 forever! :-)
+1
--
Rich Alderson news@alderson.users.panix.com
Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen
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| From | 1p166 <z24ba6.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 23:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <N7SdnUoFWva1Nxn8nZ2dnUU7-f2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
| In reply to | #219556 |
On 11/4/21 1:01 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 21:02:18 -0400 > 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > >> Besides we Linux people know WE are the best :-) > > Nah! Second best, BSD is the best :) "Close competitor" :-) Sorry, but the BSDs are still kinda "unrefined". You have to do about 50% more work to achieve the same results. Some may see that as good, but there could be some debate on that subject.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 07:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20211105073751.2f2c5e354631b4b6de78d7d9@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #219596 |
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 23:51:04 -0400 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > On 11/4/21 1:01 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 21:02:18 -0400 > > 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > > > >> Besides we Linux people know WE are the best :-) > > > > Nah! Second best, BSD is the best :) > > "Close competitor" :-) > > Sorry, but the BSDs are still kinda "unrefined". > You have to do about 50% more work to achieve the > same results. BSDs are more industrial style - solid, reliable, consistent. Linux distributions tend to be more consumer style - flashy, convenient, constantly changing. I prefer the former. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 08:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <iuk9qsFqi9U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #219602 |
On Fri, 05 Nov 2021 07:37:51 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 23:51:04 -0400 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > >> On 11/4/21 1:01 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 21:02:18 -0400 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Besides we Linux people know WE are the best :-) >> > >> > Nah! Second best, BSD is the best :) >> >> "Close competitor" :-) >> >> Sorry, but the BSDs are still kinda "unrefined". You have to do >> about 50% more work to achieve the same results. > > BSDs are more industrial style - solid, reliable, consistent. Linux > distributions tend to be more consumer style - flashy, convenient, > constantly changing. I prefer the former. +1. Perhaps Linux is simpler for people to use because many management operations only need you to know about one thing - systemd. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 13:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5EahJ.2152$Vt1.1598@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #219602 |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: >On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 23:51:04 -0400 >1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > >> On 11/4/21 1:01 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 21:02:18 -0400 >> > 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Besides we Linux people know WE are the best :-) >> > >> > Nah! Second best, BSD is the best :) >> >> "Close competitor" :-) >> >> Sorry, but the BSDs are still kinda "unrefined". >> You have to do about 50% more work to achieve the >> same results. > > BSDs are more industrial style - solid, reliable, consistent. Linux >distributions tend to be more consumer style - flashy, convenient, >constantly changing. I prefer the former. I give you Redhat Enterprise Linux and SUSE Enterprise Linux Server. Far more solid, reliable and consistent than any *BSD release. Ever. Hands down.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-04 11:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sm0euu$8se$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #219554 |
On 04/11/2021 01:02, 1p166 wrote: > On 11/3/21 3:26 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 00:27:54 -0400 >> 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: >> >>> The Big Money people had this figured out LONG >>> ago - centuries ago actually. Even Machivelli >>> understood the utility of cultivating those >>> fake "sides". >> >> Sadly this and all above it is all too true - the lessons of >> Machiavelli and Sun Tzu are well understood by the major players and have >> been polished for centuries into a smooth art. In a similar vein I fairly >> recently re-read Orwell's 1984 and found it shockingly simplistic and >> naive, >> that was a sobering discovery. > > It used to be the politicians/priesthood, but then > the ADVERTISERS came - and post-WW2 undertook what > you might call the "science of salesmanship", lots > of psych experiments designed to yield objective > data. What motivates people, in what ways, how much, > how long ... they made manipulation a science. And > then the politicians/priesthood (esp evangelicals) > borrowed all that data. > Black magic, meet science. > I'll rec a somewhat old book to you - it can still > be had. It was writ in the late 50s by a polymath > named Jaques Ellul and called "The Technological > Society". It was not about computers - it was about > the growth of science-informed psychological > manipulation by State and private entities. The > original was in French, but the English translation > is perfectly readable, albeit with some rather odd > wording at times. > > Hmm ... I wonder what Obama's "Brain Initiative" was > REALLY supposed to find out :-) > > >> The indoctrination for it starts in the earliest school with "What's >> your favourite colour" and gets strengthened outside the classroom with >> "Who do you support". >> >> I remain thankful that Hermann Göring's astute observation on the >> ease of raising war fever is not widely utilised today - I remain >> slightly >> suspicious about the Falkland's War being a field test of the >> principle, it >> was certainly a good demonstration if not. >> > > Goebbels ... Goring's interests rarely strayed from killing > people ....... > > Goebbels was a very GOOD propagandist ... but fortunately > his instincts and insights were mostly limited to German > culture. His stuff never translated very well. > > But if Goebbels had the wealth of scientific data the > Mad Men compiled ... > > Anyway, the MS/Apple "duality" is a sort of deliberate > scam. You pick a side and are encouraged to feel all > superior about it, hurl distain at "those OTHERS". > Meanwhile the big investors buy stock in BOTH companies > and encourage the 'competition' illusion. > And I hold stock in the big investors. > Besides we Linux people know WE are the best :-) From a certain technological point of view, yes. But it ain't the only point of view. -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <RvzgJ.30519$Kw9.21879@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #219548 |
On 2021-11-03, 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > MS is heavily invested in Apple and vice-versa. > Check it out, you can confirm that. Back in the '80s, M$ made Apple an outright gift of $150 million. Apple was the only thing keeping the Department of Justice off Microsoft's back, so Apple had to be kept alive, but weak. Unfortunately for M$, Apple didn't remain weak. > The "sides" > are all for show, a way of goading consumers > and pushing out competitors. Swear your loyalty > to Winders or Mac ! So EXCITING to choose a side. > > The Big Money people had this figured out LONG > ago - centuries ago actually. Even Machivelli > understood the utility of cultivating those > fake "sides". The more things change, the more they remain the same. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Life is perverse. \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | It can be beautiful - X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | but it won't. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lily Tomlin
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| From | Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 22:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsobbcb.1rfm.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid> |
| In reply to | #219541 |
On Tue, 2021-11-02, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2021-11-02, 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: ... >> Those STILL have >> fans and some Linux utilities STILL support the >> Amiga disk formats plus there are other Amiga >> support programs too. I bought the original, but >> there were SO many "Guru Meditation" messages >> that I dumped the thing and bought a Sanyo-550 >> PC (semi)-Clone. > > The Amiga's biggest shortcoming was its lack of memory > protection. If you stayed away from buggy software > that stomped on random memory locations, you could > avoid almost all Guru Meditations. The ones that were hardest to avoid was those you caused yourself by trying to run the code you wrote ;-) But no, I don't remember them as a major problem. And I used to see memory protection as a luxury item: not worth its price in terms of hardware and in the complication of the system APIs. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
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| From | Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 22:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnsobd27.ej7.Greymaus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #219642 |
On 2021-11-05, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote: > On Tue, 2021-11-02, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2021-11-02, 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > ... >>> Those STILL have >>> fans and some Linux utilities STILL support the >>> Amiga disk formats plus there are other Amiga >>> support programs too. I bought the original, but >>> there were SO many "Guru Meditation" messages >>> that I dumped the thing and bought a Sanyo-550 >>> PC (semi)-Clone. >> >> The Amiga's biggest shortcoming was its lack of memory >> protection. If you stayed away from buggy software >> that stomped on random memory locations, you could >> avoid almost all Guru Meditations. > > The ones that were hardest to avoid was those you caused yourself > by trying to run the code you wrote ;-) > > But no, I don't remember them as a major problem. And I used to see > memory protection as a luxury item: not worth its price in terms of > hardware and in the complication of the system APIs. > > /Jorgen > -- greymausg@mail.com That's not a mousehole!
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1447702122.657845537.347227.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #219642 |
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote: > On Tue, 2021-11-02, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2021-11-02, 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote: > ... >>> Those STILL have >>> fans and some Linux utilities STILL support the >>> Amiga disk formats plus there are other Amiga >>> support programs too. I bought the original, but >>> there were SO many "Guru Meditation" messages >>> that I dumped the thing and bought a Sanyo-550 >>> PC (semi)-Clone. >> >> The Amiga's biggest shortcoming was its lack of memory >> protection. If you stayed away from buggy software >> that stomped on random memory locations, you could >> avoid almost all Guru Meditations. > > The ones that were hardest to avoid was those you caused yourself > by trying to run the code you wrote ;-) > > But no, I don't remember them as a major problem. And I used to see > memory protection as a luxury item: not worth its price in terms of > hardware and in the complication of the system APIs. > > /Jorgen > Sure, if you write good code it won’t be a problem. What could possibly go wrong? -- Pete
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