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| Started by | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| First post | 2025-04-26 13:28 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-04-28 08:32 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 341 — 35 participants |
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General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-26 13:28 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-26 14:06 +0000
Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-26 14:54 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-26 16:02 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-26 16:24 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-04-26 21:10 -0400
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-27 14:21 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-01 14:17 +0100
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-04-27 01:36 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2025-05-03 14:46 -0400
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 21:54 +0200
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-03 20:56 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 21:54 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2025-05-12 20:18 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-05-13 09:44 +0100
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-13 18:59 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-14 15:38 +0100
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-21 17:59 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-27 13:30 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-27 13:48 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 19:57 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 19:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-28 01:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 02:28 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-28 02:58 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-28 03:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 07:54 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-28 12:31 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 20:08 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:43 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 19:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:45 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 00:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-04-30 17:11 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:57 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-05-01 05:16 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 04:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 05:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2025-05-12 20:35 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:03 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2025-05-01 09:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 00:33 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 08:47 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:53 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:33 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 08:50 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:31 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:44 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:30 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 00:17 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 08:53 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 07:14 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 09:37 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 08:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 12:24 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 18:53 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 04:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 04:59 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 18:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:55 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:01 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 08:25 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 19:13 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 12:37 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-05-02 18:43 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 04:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-03 00:12 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 09:42 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:39 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-01 13:05 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-01 13:37 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 14:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-01 23:01 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:48 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-02 02:37 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 01:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:12 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:07 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 14:06 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 10:14 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 12:27 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2025-05-12 20:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-12 23:09 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-13 02:45 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 09:52 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-13 19:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-13 22:03 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-14 03:20 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-14 12:18 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:30 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:58 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:49 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-02 00:36 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-02 02:39 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 01:08 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:13 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-03 01:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 05:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-05-03 19:36 -0400
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-01 13:35 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-30 13:18 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-01 23:03 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-05-05 11:15 +0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-28 11:49 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 19:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:56 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 01:00 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-29 22:09 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:34 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:20 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-04-30 03:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 07:17 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-30 16:21 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-04-30 11:21 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-05-01 02:37 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 18:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:52 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-02 03:44 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 04:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-02 15:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:12 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-05-02 18:15 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-03 01:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 04:52 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-05-03 04:44 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:17 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 07:27 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-04-30 20:36 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-04-30 20:33 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 06:55 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 08:02 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-01 20:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 14:07 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:54 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 01:01 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 08:31 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 19:23 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 13:42 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:20 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 05:08 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-03 01:20 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 02:23 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 05:22 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 14:13 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 19:57 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:43 +0200
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-05 00:40 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:25 +0200
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 17:35 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-05-05 20:18 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 02:43 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:07 +0200
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 02:59 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-05 20:16 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 03:33 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 06:56 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:24 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 18:43 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-05 20:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 03:42 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:18 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-06 11:57 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 18:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 22:25 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-07 21:38 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-08 14:07 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-08 00:25 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-08 14:17 +0200
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-08 17:14 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-08 19:02 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:42 +0200
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-09 00:48 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-09 01:19 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-09 12:33 +0200
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-09 12:31 +0200
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-09 18:43 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 19:16 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-10 03:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-08 18:56 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:45 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-08 21:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-09 00:16 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-09 00:42 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-09 12:34 +0200
Re: kindles, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-06 14:01 +0000
Re: kindles, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 19:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:50 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-07 23:37 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:27 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 18:14 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:23 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:24 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:54 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:37 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 08:28 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 17:28 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 22:28 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 23:55 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-07 23:44 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 21:33 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:18 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 17:52 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:25 +0200
Re: all the news that, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-06 14:05 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:48 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 14:05 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 19:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:56 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 04:07 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 04:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 07:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 14:16 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 19:54 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:46 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... maus <maus@debian.deb3> - 2025-05-05 07:14 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 08:54 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:34 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 18:49 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:28 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-06 12:02 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-06 14:06 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 17:38 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-06 16:37 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-06 18:38 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 17:59 +0000
California toll road infection Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-05-07 11:16 -0700
Re: California toll road infection Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-05-07 17:57 -0400
Re: California toll road infection John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-08 00:16 +0000
Re: California toll road infection David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2025-05-11 17:27 +0000
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Re: cops, was: California toll road infection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-11 21:19 +0200
Re: cops, was: California toll road infection Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 01:29 +0000
Re: cops, was: California toll road infection danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2025-05-12 01:34 +0000
Re: cops, was: California toll road infection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-12 13:15 +0200
Re: bridge cops, was: California toll road infection John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-12 16:37 +0000
Re: bridge cops, was: California toll road infection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:36 +0200
Re: bridge cops, was: California toll road infection John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-13 00:38 +0000
Re: cops, was: California toll road infection scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-12 14:18 +0000
Re: California toll road infection Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-05-12 07:42 +0200
Re: California toll road infection scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-12 14:16 +0000
Re: California toll road infection rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-08 00:27 +0000
Re: California toll road infection scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-08 13:35 +0000
Re: California toll road infection John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-08 17:28 +0000
Re: California toll road infection Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:54 +0000
Re: California toll road infection Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-09 20:35 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-07 18:44 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-07 20:35 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 17:53 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-20 10:33 +0100
Re: Paying without Internet Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-21 17:56 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2025-05-21 20:05 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-21 21:19 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-21 20:46 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-21 21:13 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-05-21 22:31 +0100
Re: Paying without Internet Chuck Martin <cmartin+usenetYYMMDD@nyx.net> - 2025-05-22 07:56 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-21 23:29 +0100
Re: Paying without Internet rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-22 03:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 07:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-02 15:17 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 19:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:27 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-30 10:55 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 12:27 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:43 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 08:03 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-01 17:03 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-01 20:39 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 00:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 07:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 01:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:20 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-28 14:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-29 15:11 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 19:55 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-29 21:58 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:46 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 00:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-29 22:25 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-04-30 15:40 +0300
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-30 20:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 07:07 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:47 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 18:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:52 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 01:19 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-04-30 02:14 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 07:19 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 12:31 +0200
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:05 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-04-30 12:58 -0700
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-30 20:35 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 06:52 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 06:44 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-05-01 14:43 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-04-30 09:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-30 03:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 07:21 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-30 11:09 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-01 13:20 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-05-01 17:00 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:58 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:11 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-26 14:55 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-04-26 18:55 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-27 14:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-04-26 20:02 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-27 13:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 21:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-27 22:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 01:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-28 01:47 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-28 01:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 03:30 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-28 04:48 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 19:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:36 -0600
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-27 01:22 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Oscar Toledo G. <biyubi@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 01:26 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 08:32 -0700
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 04:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7tgm5F6c75U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230988 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:50:45 -0000 (UTC), Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software wrote: > I've still got my original Kindle, a first- or second-gen model with an > actual keyboard. Amazing it still works, but I like it because it's so > small and light, and has terrific battery life. https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Keyboard-Free-Wi-Fi-Display/dp/B004HZYA6E That's the oldest one I have. It still works although 3G is gone. I bought a case for it that flips around to turn it into an easel. I've got some programming books on it and it's handy to put next to the computer. I have to retrain so I don't try to swipe to turn the page.
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| From | Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-07 23:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvgqrs$1aek0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #230999 |
On 6 May 2025 04:15:01 GMT, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:50:45 -0000 (UTC), Peter Flass -- Iron Spring > Software wrote: > >> I've still got my original Kindle, a first- or second-gen model with an >> actual keyboard. Amazing it still works, but I like it because it's so >> small and light, and has terrific battery life. > > https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Keyboard-Free-Wi-Fi-Display/dp/B004HZYA6E > > That's the oldest one I have. It still works although 3G is gone. I > bought a case for it that flips around to turn it into an easel. I've > got some programming books on it and it's handy to put next to the > computer. I have to retrain so I don't try to swipe to turn the page. That looks like mine, except that I got mine before they started the two tier pricing for ads/no ads. No 3G on mine, either - wifi only - but that's not a problem because my phone is a hotspot.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 13:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tujmelxqkh.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #230955 |
On 2025-05-05 08:56, rbowman wrote: ... > I have very mixed feelings about Amazon. It impacts local businesses. On > the other hand this is a small market and the local businesses don't have > that great a selection. They may be able to special order something and > I'll get it eventually, or I can go to Amazon and it will be on the deck > in a couple of days. Yeah, me too. I use it for things I can not find locally. I prefer buying on a real shop, but sometimes it is very difficult to find what I want. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 18:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7sdgjFgvlU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230961 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 13:27:57 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-05-05 08:56, rbowman wrote: > > ... > >> I have very mixed feelings about Amazon. It impacts local businesses. >> On the other hand this is a small market and the local businesses don't >> have that great a selection. They may be able to special order >> something and I'll get it eventually, or I can go to Amazon and it will >> be on the deck in a couple of days. > > Yeah, me too. I use it for things I can not find locally. I prefer > buying on a real shop, but sometimes it is very difficult to find what I > want. I have had shops tell me outright that they could order an item but I knew where to buy it online too. The most bizarre one was the Barnes & Noble brick and mortar bookstore. They would order a book for me and when it arrived it would be full list price. I could order the same book from B&N online, get 10% off, and free shipping directly to me. Great business plan. Back when Amazon was first starting as a online bookseller I preferred B&N. Amazon tended to take your order and then a week or two later cancel it when they couldn't get the item. Foreign CDs were particularly bad. Amazon survived and became what they are. B&N never went beyond books and their Nook reader didn't take off. I had one but when the battery died it wasn't worth replacing it. They almost went under but seem to be having a comeback. I seldom buy physical books anymore so my trips to the local B&N are usually to buy a calendar when they're 50% off in January. There used to be a Waldenbooks and B Dalton in the mall but they both went under.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 23:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <3rmnelx15k.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #230970 |
On 2025-05-05 20:14, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 5 May 2025 13:27:57 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-05-05 08:56, rbowman wrote: >> >> ... >> >>> I have very mixed feelings about Amazon. It impacts local businesses. >>> On the other hand this is a small market and the local businesses don't >>> have that great a selection. They may be able to special order >>> something and I'll get it eventually, or I can go to Amazon and it will >>> be on the deck in a couple of days. >> >> Yeah, me too. I use it for things I can not find locally. I prefer >> buying on a real shop, but sometimes it is very difficult to find what I >> want. > > I have had shops tell me outright that they could order an item but I knew > where to buy it online too. The most bizarre one was the Barnes & Noble > brick and mortar bookstore. They would order a book for me and when it > arrived it would be full list price. I could order the same book from B&N > online, get 10% off, and free shipping directly to me. Great business > plan. I like to go to to a brick and mortar bookstore, as you say. But at purchase time, I'd like to buy them in epub format. They tell you to do that at their online shop. This is ridiculous. I want to award the good people of the bookstore that did the effort of showing me new books for me to look. Buying online tells the management the wrong picture. ... -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 04:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7th8qF6c75U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230981 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 23:23:15 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > I like to go to to a brick and mortar bookstore, as you say. But at > purchase time, I'd like to buy them in epub format. They tell you to do > that at their online shop. The local B&N has a Starbuck's coffee shop and free wi-fi so that's a feature. I think some have expanded to a more complete restaurant. There are also comfortable chairs to sit and read. A competing store used to have free coffee so that was even better. They went out of business though. > This is ridiculous. I want to award the good people of the bookstore > that did the effort of showing me new books for me to look. Buying > online tells the management the wrong picture. Part of the problem for me is they used to have 5 or 6 rows dedicated to computer books. Probably a lot of people are like me and don't buy hardcopy books anymore so it is scaled way back and tends toward 'Microsoft Office for Dummies' rather than technical books. I really should go in and look around. It's right next to the gym so no excuse. They also have a bin to return books to the public library but most of the library books I get now are digital too. Mostly I go to the library to read Make magazine and a couple of others.
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| From | Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 22:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvbfil$1f97o$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #230970 |
On 5 May 2025 18:14:43 GMT, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 5 May 2025 13:27:57 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-05-05 08:56, rbowman wrote: >> >> ... >> >>> I have very mixed feelings about Amazon. It impacts local businesses. >>> On the other hand this is a small market and the local businesses >>> don't have that great a selection. They may be able to special order >>> something and I'll get it eventually, or I can go to Amazon and it >>> will be on the deck in a couple of days. >> >> Yeah, me too. I use it for things I can not find locally. I prefer >> buying on a real shop, but sometimes it is very difficult to find what >> I want. > > I have had shops tell me outright that they could order an item but I > knew where to buy it online too. The most bizarre one was the Barnes & > Noble brick and mortar bookstore. They would order a book for me and > when it arrived it would be full list price. I could order the same book > from B&N online, get 10% off, and free shipping directly to me. Great > business plan. > > Back when Amazon was first starting as a online bookseller I preferred > B&N. Amazon tended to take your order and then a week or two later > cancel it when they couldn't get the item. Foreign CDs were particularly > bad. > > Amazon survived and became what they are. B&N never went beyond books > and their Nook reader didn't take off. I had one but when the battery > died it wasn't worth replacing it. They almost went under but seem to be > having a comeback. I seldom buy physical books anymore so my trips to > the local B&N are usually to buy a calendar when they're 50% off in > January. > > There used to be a Waldenbooks and B Dalton in the mall but they both > went under. I read an article about B&N's comeback. One of the big things they did was give local staff more control over what to stock, instead of having corporate shove stuff at them because they got a kickback from the publishers.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 04:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7thvkF6c75U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230989 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:54:13 -0000 (UTC), Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software wrote: > I read an article about B&N's comeback. One of the big things they did > was give local staff more control over what to stock, instead of having > corporate shove stuff at them because they got a kickback from the > publishers. Hopefully they won't step on a local indie bookstore's territory. https://factandfictionbooks.com/ It's a little too hip for my taste but I do like that they have managed to survive through the years.
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 08:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <20250506082802.00004fe6@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #231001 |
On 6 May 2025 04:37:09 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > Hopefully they won't step on a local indie bookstore's territory. > > https://factandfictionbooks.com/ > > It's a little too hip for my taste but I do like that they have > managed to survive through the years. This is my local haunt. Wonderful place - nice folks, pleasingly esoteric selection, and just the right lost-in-the-stacks ambience :) https://thebookeryplacerville.com/
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-07 17:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m81jhhFqhr5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #231017 |
On Tue, 6 May 2025 08:28:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: > This is my local haunt. Wonderful place - nice folks, pleasingly > esoteric selection, and just the right lost-in-the-stacks ambience > > https://thebookeryplacerville.com/ Fact and Fiction is nowhere near that large. However https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/experiences/montana/montana-valley- bookstore-100000-books-mt If you're claustrophobic you might start to question the integrity of the shelves. If you're really brave you can go down to the cellar, turning lights on as you go. Please trun them off as you leave if nobody else is there. The owner lives in the back so most times you ring the old fashioned bell on a Dutch door and she appears to take your money. If you're thirsty after your search there's a bar down the street but it's not exactly a hip fern bar.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-07 22:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1csselxevq.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #231029 |
On 2025-05-07 19:28, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 6 May 2025 08:28:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: > >> This is my local haunt. Wonderful place - nice folks, pleasingly >> esoteric selection, and just the right lost-in-the-stacks ambience >> >> https://thebookeryplacerville.com/ > > Fact and Fiction is nowhere near that large. However > > https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/experiences/montana/montana-valley- > bookstore-100000-books-mt > > If you're claustrophobic you might start to question the integrity of the > shelves. If you're really brave you can go down to the cellar, turning > lights on as you go. Please trun them off as you leave if nobody else is > there. > > The owner lives in the back so most times you ring the old fashioned bell > on a Dutch door and she appears to take your money. If you're thirsty > after your search there's a bar down the street but it's not exactly a hip > fern bar. Sounds interesting :-) -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-07 23:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m82a6uFtvm5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #231040 |
On Wed, 7 May 2025 22:28:17 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-05-07 19:28, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 6 May 2025 08:28:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: >> >>> This is my local haunt. Wonderful place - nice folks, pleasingly >>> esoteric selection, and just the right lost-in-the-stacks ambience >>> >>> https://thebookeryplacerville.com/ >> >> Fact and Fiction is nowhere near that large. However >> >> https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/experiences/montana/montana-valley- >> bookstore-100000-books-mt >> >> If you're claustrophobic you might start to question the integrity of >> the shelves. If you're really brave you can go down to the cellar, >> turning lights on as you go. Please trun them off as you leave if >> nobody else is there. >> >> The owner lives in the back so most times you ring the old fashioned >> bell on a Dutch door and she appears to take your money. If you're >> thirsty after your search there's a bar down the street but it's not >> exactly a hip fern bar. > > Sounds interesting :-) It's all of that. Eclectic doesn't begin to describe it and saying it's well organized is a real stretch.
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| From | Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-07 23:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvgr85$1aek0$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #231017 |
On Tue, 6 May 2025 08:28:02 -0700, John Ames wrote: > On 6 May 2025 04:37:09 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > >> Hopefully they won't step on a local indie bookstore's territory. >> >> https://factandfictionbooks.com/ >> >> It's a little too hip for my taste but I do like that they have managed >> to survive through the years. > > This is my local haunt. Wonderful place - nice folks, pleasingly > esoteric selection, and just the right lost-in-the-stacks ambience :) > > https://thebookeryplacerville.com/ Here's my favorite pace before I moved. Looks like they have new owners. It used to be a bank, it's mostly basement and the rooms go on and on and on. I used to stop in every few weeks, mostly to browse, although I did by a book now and then. When I moved I sold everything (plus a lot more) back to the owner for basically pennies a pound. Nothing good where I live now, unfortunately. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=407795831532119&set=pb. 100069051170884.-2207520000&type=3 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=627407169570983&set=pb. 100069051170884.-2207520000&type=3
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 21:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv8mg2$2qpl1$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #230946 |
On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:13:10 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On the second one, I do my searches, and I never login. I search > anonymously. They can not email me. If I share a link, or open a link, > they can not email me about it. That’s good for maintaining multiple identities. If you don’t want to maintain a persistent identity with an associated browsing/searching history at all, then you could use private browsing.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 13:18 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <dcjmelxh5g.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #230953 |
On 2025-05-04 23:33, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:13:10 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On the second one, I do my searches, and I never login. I search >> anonymously. They can not email me. If I share a link, or open a link, >> they can not email me about it. > > That’s good for maintaining multiple identities. If you don’t want to > maintain a persistent identity with an associated browsing/searching > history at all, then you could use private browsing. Well, on my default Firefox I do not login to Google. When I want to login, I use a dedicated profile. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 17:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7sc6kFgvlU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230959 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 13:18:05 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-05-04 23:33, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:13:10 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> On the second one, I do my searches, and I never login. I search >>> anonymously. They can not email me. If I share a link, or open a link, >>> they can not email me about it. >> >> That’s good for maintaining multiple identities. If you don’t want to >> maintain a persistent identity with an associated browsing/searching >> history at all, then you could use private browsing. > > Well, on my default Firefox I do not login to Google. When I want to > login, I use a dedicated profile. It really isn't too good but I go to news.google.com mornings for a quick summary. There is a feature where you can say you never want to see stories from the Daily Mail for example. Obviously that only works if you're logged into google. If I am not logged in the selection of links tends to be sources I've blocked. Many of those like NYT are paywalled or require a sign in. I don't need to waste time being redirected to a site that won't let me read the article. Being fond of conspiracy theories I wouldn't be surprised if money changes hands for google's news aggregator to favor sites that are selling subscriptions.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 23:25 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <qvmnelx15k.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #230968 |
On 2025-05-05 19:52, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 5 May 2025 13:18:05 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2025-05-04 23:33, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:13:10 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> >>>> On the second one, I do my searches, and I never login. I search >>>> anonymously. They can not email me. If I share a link, or open a link, >>>> they can not email me about it. >>> >>> That’s good for maintaining multiple identities. If you don’t want to >>> maintain a persistent identity with an associated browsing/searching >>> history at all, then you could use private browsing. >> >> Well, on my default Firefox I do not login to Google. When I want to >> login, I use a dedicated profile. > > It really isn't too good but I go to news.google.com mornings for a quick > summary. There is a feature where you can say you never want to see > stories from the Daily Mail for example. Obviously that only works if > you're logged into google. If I am not logged in the selection of links > tends to be sources I've blocked. Many of those like NYT are paywalled or > require a sign in. I don't need to waste time being redirected to a site > that won't let me read the article. > > Being fond of conspiracy theories I wouldn't be surprised if money changes > hands for google's news aggregator to favor sites that are selling > subscriptions. I do that on the phone, so they know what news I like, they profile me. When I get to a pay wall, I report it, and the item disappears. Everybody should do that. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 14:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: all the news that, General Thoughts ... |
| Message-ID | <vvd4vm$m7h$2@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #230968 |
According to rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: >Being fond of conspiracy theories I wouldn't be surprised if money changes >hands for google's news aggregator to favor sites that are selling >subscriptions. I doubt it. Canada and Australia passed laws, supported by heavy lobbying from the newspapers, that tried to make Google pay for links to newspapers. They did a fudge in Australia for a while but eventually said no, we'll just turn off Google News in those countries since we were making no money from it anyway. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 22:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvbf1j$1f97o$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #230946 |
On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:13:10 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2025-05-03 07:22, rbowman wrote: >> On Sat, 3 May 2025 01:20:28 -0000 (UTC), Peter Flass -- Iron Spring >> Software wrote: >> >>> I've seen UIs that were SO wrong. It's like no one ever stopped to >>> think "what are people going to want to do with this think. Then >>> there's sheer maliciousness - Amazon Prime had a pretty smooth >>> ordering process, but now they've apparently inserted a layer between >>> ordering and checkout to ask "do you want to consider ordering any of >>> these groceries?" If I wanted groceries, I'd order groceries, you >>> blockheads! >> >> Some of their 'you might be interested' things are over the top. I do >> let myself in for that since I often will use a Amazon link to describe >> a product. Just because I want to share a smile about a litter box >> monitor doesn't mean I want to buy one. > > I use a trick to avoid that. > > In Firefox default profile, I prohibit Amazon cookies. > > Then I have two separate profiles: > > firefox -P Amazon & > > firefox -P AmazonSearch --no-remote & > > > The first one has my login, and they know my email. I never search > there, nor open any product or link. > > On the second one, I do my searches, and I never login. I search > anonymously. They can not email me. If I share a link, or open a link, > they can not email me about it. > > When I locate what to buy, I copy the bare link (extras removed from the > URL) to the first window. > > I use the same trick with some other sites, too. > > > The funny thing is Amazon sending me emails "you might be interested in" > things that I already bought, so I don't have further interests. If there's something I REALLY don't want to be bugged about I use DuckDuckGo, which seems to work well. I don't know why I haven't switched to it for everything.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 04:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7til9F6c75U8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230986 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 22:45:07 -0000 (UTC), Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software wrote: > If there's something I REALLY don't want to be bugged about I use > DuckDuckGo, which seems to work well. I don't know why I haven't > switched to it for everything. I use DukDuckGo on Firefox but mostly use Brave which has its own search. DuckDuckGo incorporates information from Bing and apparently has an agreement with Microsoft that leads to a problem. https://www.tomsguide.com/news/duckduckgo-privacy-browser-facing-backlash- over-microsoft-trackers https://thedroidguy.com/does-duckduckgo-use-bing-results-the-ultimate- search-engine-guide-1261346
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