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| Started by | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| First post | 2025-04-26 13:28 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-04-28 08:32 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 341 — 35 participants |
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General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-26 13:28 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-26 14:06 +0000
Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-26 14:54 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-26 16:02 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-26 16:24 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-04-26 21:10 -0400
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-27 14:21 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-01 14:17 +0100
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-04-27 01:36 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2025-05-03 14:46 -0400
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 21:54 +0200
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-03 20:56 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 21:54 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2025-05-12 20:18 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-05-13 09:44 +0100
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-13 18:59 +0000
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-14 15:38 +0100
Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...) Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-21 17:59 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-27 13:30 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-27 13:48 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 19:57 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 19:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-28 01:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 02:28 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-28 02:58 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-28 03:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 07:54 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-28 12:31 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 20:08 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:43 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 19:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:45 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 00:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-04-30 17:11 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:57 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-05-01 05:16 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 04:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 05:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2025-05-12 20:35 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:03 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> - 2025-05-01 09:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 00:33 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 08:47 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:53 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:33 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 08:50 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:31 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:44 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:30 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 00:17 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 08:53 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 07:14 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 09:37 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 08:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 12:24 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 18:53 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 04:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 04:59 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 18:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:55 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:01 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 08:25 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 19:13 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 12:37 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-05-02 18:43 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 04:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-03 00:12 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 09:42 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:39 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-01 13:05 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-01 13:37 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 14:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-01 23:01 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:48 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-02 02:37 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 01:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:12 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:07 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 14:06 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 10:14 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 12:27 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2025-05-12 20:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-12 23:09 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-13 02:45 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 09:52 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-13 19:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-13 22:03 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-14 03:20 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-14 12:18 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:30 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:58 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:49 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-02 00:36 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-02 02:39 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 01:08 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:13 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-03 01:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 05:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-05-03 19:36 -0400
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-05-01 13:35 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-30 13:18 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-01 23:03 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-05-05 11:15 +0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-28 11:49 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 19:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:56 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 01:00 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-29 22:09 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:34 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:20 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-04-30 03:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 07:17 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-30 16:21 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-04-30 11:21 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-05-01 02:37 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 18:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:52 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-02 03:44 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 04:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-02 15:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:12 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-05-02 18:15 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-03 01:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 04:52 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-05-03 04:44 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:17 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 07:27 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-04-30 20:36 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-04-30 20:33 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 06:55 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 08:02 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-01 20:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 14:07 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:54 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 01:01 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 08:31 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 19:23 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 13:42 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:20 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 05:08 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-03 01:20 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 02:23 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 05:22 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 14:13 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 19:57 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:43 +0200
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-05 00:40 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:25 +0200
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 17:35 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-05-05 20:18 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 02:43 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:07 +0200
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 02:59 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-05 20:16 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 03:33 +0000
Re: book em, General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 06:56 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:24 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 18:43 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-05 20:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 03:42 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:18 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:09 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-06 11:57 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 18:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 22:25 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-07 21:38 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-08 14:07 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-08 00:25 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-08 14:17 +0200
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-08 17:14 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-08 19:02 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:42 +0200
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-09 00:48 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-09 01:19 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-09 12:33 +0200
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-09 12:31 +0200
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-09 18:43 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 19:16 +0000
Re: unbook me, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-10 03:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-08 18:56 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:45 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-08 21:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-09 00:16 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-09 00:42 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-09 12:34 +0200
Re: kindles, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-06 14:01 +0000
Re: kindles, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 19:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:50 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-07 23:37 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:27 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 18:14 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:23 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:24 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:54 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:37 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-06 08:28 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 17:28 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 22:28 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 23:55 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-07 23:44 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 21:33 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:18 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 17:52 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:25 +0200
Re: all the news that, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-06 14:05 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:48 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 14:05 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 19:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-05 22:56 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 04:07 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 04:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 07:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 14:16 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 19:54 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:46 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... maus <maus@debian.deb3> - 2025-05-05 07:14 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 08:54 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:34 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 18:49 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 23:28 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 04:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-06 12:02 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-06 14:06 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 17:38 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-06 16:37 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-06 18:38 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 17:59 +0000
California toll road infection Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-05-07 11:16 -0700
Re: California toll road infection Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-05-07 17:57 -0400
Re: California toll road infection John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-08 00:16 +0000
Re: California toll road infection David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2025-05-11 17:27 +0000
cops, was: California toll road infection danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2025-05-11 17:33 +0000
Re: cops, was: California toll road infection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-11 21:19 +0200
Re: cops, was: California toll road infection Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 01:29 +0000
Re: cops, was: California toll road infection danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2025-05-12 01:34 +0000
Re: cops, was: California toll road infection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-12 13:15 +0200
Re: bridge cops, was: California toll road infection John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-12 16:37 +0000
Re: bridge cops, was: California toll road infection "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:36 +0200
Re: bridge cops, was: California toll road infection John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-13 00:38 +0000
Re: cops, was: California toll road infection scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-12 14:18 +0000
Re: California toll road infection Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> - 2025-05-12 07:42 +0200
Re: California toll road infection scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-12 14:16 +0000
Re: California toll road infection rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-08 00:27 +0000
Re: California toll road infection scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-08 13:35 +0000
Re: California toll road infection John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-08 17:28 +0000
Re: California toll road infection Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:54 +0000
Re: California toll road infection Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-09 20:35 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-07 18:44 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-07 20:35 +0000
Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-07 17:53 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-20 10:33 +0100
Re: Paying without Internet Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-21 17:56 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2025-05-21 20:05 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-21 21:19 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-21 20:46 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-21 21:13 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet David Wade <g4ugm@dave.invalid> - 2025-05-21 22:31 +0100
Re: Paying without Internet Chuck Martin <cmartin+usenetYYMMDD@nyx.net> - 2025-05-22 07:56 +0000
Re: Paying without Internet Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-21 23:29 +0100
Re: Paying without Internet rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-22 03:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 07:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-05-02 15:17 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 19:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:27 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-30 10:55 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 12:27 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:43 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-01 08:03 -0700
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-01 17:03 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-05-01 20:39 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 00:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 07:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 01:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:20 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-28 14:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-29 15:11 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 19:55 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-29 21:58 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 23:46 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 00:15 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-29 22:25 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-04-30 15:40 +0300
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-30 20:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 07:07 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 23:47 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 18:32 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:52 +0200
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 01:19 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-04-30 02:14 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 07:19 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-30 12:31 +0200
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:05 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-04-30 12:58 -0700
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-30 20:35 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 06:52 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 06:44 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-05-01 14:43 +0000
Re: BASIC history, was General Thoughts ... Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2025-04-30 09:10 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-04-30 03:40 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-30 07:21 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-04-30 11:09 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:19 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2025-05-01 13:20 +0100
Re: General Thoughts ... antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-05-01 17:00 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 21:58 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-30 19:11 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-26 14:55 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-04-26 18:55 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-27 14:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-04-26 20:02 -0300
Re: General Thoughts ... Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2025-04-27 13:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 21:03 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-27 22:45 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 01:51 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-28 01:47 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-28 01:46 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 03:30 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-28 04:48 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 19:41 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:36 -0600
Re: General Thoughts ... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-27 01:22 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... Oscar Toledo G. <biyubi@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 01:26 +0000
Re: General Thoughts ... John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 08:32 -0700
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 14:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <jo1kelxui.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #230924 |
On 2025-05-03 03:20, Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software wrote: > On 2 May 2025 19:23:16 GMT, rbowman wrote: > >> On Fri, 2 May 2025 08:31:39 -0700, John Ames wrote: >> >>> On 2 May 2025 01:01:41 GMT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm glad I'm out of the game. I don't see the DoI becoming any more >>>> pleasant to deal with. >>> >>> Web design overall is a field I'm very glad to have never gotten into. >> >> UI design in general is something I am not good at. A common mistake is >> thinking programmers that can implement the app are capable of designing >> it or the competent designers can make it happen. I'm sure there are >> exceptions but that's my experience. >> >> I first heard the term 'T-shaped skills' in a discussion of ML workflow >> but it fits. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-shaped_skills > > I've seen UIs that were SO wrong. It's like no one ever stopped to think > "what are people going to want to do with this think. Then there's sheer > maliciousness - Amazon Prime had a pretty smooth ordering process, but now > they've apparently inserted a layer between ordering and checkout to ask > "do you want to consider ordering any of these groceries?" If I wanted > groceries, I'd order groceries, you blockheads! Amazon Prime Video App. I currently have the tablet in vertical, but sometimes the interface is forced to horizontal. Specifically when clicking on the Trailer or Extra of a serial, while the video is actually casted to the room TV display. If I put the tablet horizontally, there are even more sections that force vertical display. Amazon Prime Video App. I watched yesterday, for example, episode 4 of something. I open the same serial, and the thing offers "watch episode 2 again". It almost never offers to watch the correct episode. I have to browse down and manually find the correct episode. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 19:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7pugjFjq4qU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230945 |
On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:05:07 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Amazon Prime Video App. I watched yesterday, for example, episode 4 of > something. I open the same serial, and the thing offers "watch episode 2 > again". It almost never offers to watch the correct episode. I have to > browse down and manually find the correct episode. I have a FireTV that sometimes does the same. I've been watching the second season of 'Almost Paradise'. I'd watched episode 4 Thursday night and Friday it had skipped to 9. I didn't look at the title and didn't realize the skip since the episodes are mostly standalone. It had also went back to 1/1 instead of continuing to 2/1. I wonder where the information is stored?
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| From | Peter Flass -- Iron Spring Software <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 22:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vvbfnq$1f97o$7@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #230948 |
On 4 May 2025 19:46:27 GMT, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:05:07 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> Amazon Prime Video App. I watched yesterday, for example, episode 4 of >> something. I open the same serial, and the thing offers "watch episode >> 2 again". It almost never offers to watch the correct episode. I have >> to browse down and manually find the correct episode. > > I have a FireTV that sometimes does the same. I've been watching the > second season of 'Almost Paradise'. I'd watched episode 4 Thursday night > and Friday it had skipped to 9. I didn't look at the title and didn't > realize the skip since the episodes are mostly standalone. > > It had also went back to 1/1 instead of continuing to 2/1. I wonder > where the information is stored? I had that problem with Andor. I had to go back and watch a few episodes they skipped.
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 04:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7iuoiFg460U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230791 |
On 2025-04-30, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> consider the number of web sites where if you're not using Edge, it's
> "Back of the bus, boy!"
Hmm? I can't remember the last time I ran into one of those. It was
probably long enough ago that it was IE rather than Edge.
Twenty-odd years ago I did have to run three different web browsers to
do my job, but that was about in-house sites in that corporation.
I mostly swear by Firefox, but don't like what they've been doing with
their legalese lately. My new job introduced me to Brave, which seems
promising.
Niklas
--
The bloody handle on the back of an E450 isn't until you try to use it as
such, then it becomes less of a handle and more bloody.
-- Gary Barnes in asr
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 04:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vv1iec$bfqb$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #230889 |
On 2 May 2025 04:07:46 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote: > I mostly swear by Firefox, but don't like what they've been doing with > their legalese lately. It’s Free Software. If you don’t like the Mozilla version, there are several alternatives built on the same code. Just as there are several alternatives built on WebKit/Blink/Chromium.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-02 07:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Ed_QP.3$B6%8.2@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #230889 |
On 2025-05-02, Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2025-04-30, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > >> consider the number of web sites where if you're not using Edge, it's >> "Back of the bus, boy!" > > Hmm? I can't remember the last time I ran into one of those. It was > probably long enough ago that it was IE rather than Edge. About a year ago I tried to activate a new credit card through the bank's web site, which worked just fine with Seamonkey for normal banking operations. The activation screen hung, and Firefox didn't fare any better. I figured I might as well waste as much of their time as they were wasting of mine, so I went down to the branch in person. The first thing the person I talked to asked was: "Which browser are you using?" I replied, "Firefox," and he said, "Never heard of it." I made some remarks about discrimination, which touched a nerve since he wasn't Caucasian. But he let me use his terminal, which was running Edge, and the activation proceeded smoothly. I thanked him and walked out, muttering things about digital racism. > Twenty-odd years ago I did have to run three different web browsers to > do my job, but that was about in-house sites in that corporation. > > I mostly swear by Firefox, I mostly swear _at_ Firefox. > but don't like what they've been doing with > their legalese lately. My new job introduced me to Brave, which seems > promising. Hmmm, I might have to give it a look. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 14:16 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <7e2kelxui.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #230892 |
On 2025-05-02 09:10, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-05-02, Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2025-04-30, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >> >>> consider the number of web sites where if you're not using Edge, it's >>> "Back of the bus, boy!" >> >> Hmm? I can't remember the last time I ran into one of those. It was >> probably long enough ago that it was IE rather than Edge. > > About a year ago I tried to activate a new credit card through the > bank's web site, which worked just fine with Seamonkey for normal > banking operations. The activation screen hung, and Firefox didn't > fare any better. I figured I might as well waste as much of their > time as they were wasting of mine, so I went down to the branch > in person. The first thing the person I talked to asked was: > "Which browser are you using?" I replied, "Firefox," and he said, > "Never heard of it." I made some remarks about discrimination, which > touched a nerve since he wasn't Caucasian. But he let me use his > terminal, which was running Edge, and the activation proceeded smoothly. > I thanked him and walked out, muttering things about digital racism. :-) I use Chrome on the few occasions those things happen and I don't feel like walking, considering that here you need an appointment to enter the bank office. Or, phone their agent place. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 19:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7puuvFjq4qU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230947 |
On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:16:39 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > I use Chrome on the few occasions those things happen and I don't feel > like walking, considering that here you need an appointment to enter the > bank office. Or, phone their agent place. At least in the US you can walk in without an appointment. It's never been more than a few minutes before someone sees you. The exception was during the covid lockdown when the lobby was closed. I very seldom have to go to the bank anyway. Everything is set up as direct deposit or automated payment. Day to day I use cash, and get a few hundred from the ATM as needed. The exception is using a card at gas stations for the convenience. I've never had the need for online banking or an app on the phone.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-04 22:46 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ga0lelx9m4.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #230949 |
On 2025-05-04 21:54, rbowman wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:16:39 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I use Chrome on the few occasions those things happen and I don't feel >> like walking, considering that here you need an appointment to enter the >> bank office. Or, phone their agent place. > > At least in the US you can walk in without an appointment. It's never been > more than a few minutes before someone sees you. The exception was during > the covid lockdown when the lobby was closed. They started with the appointments during covid, and they are still doing it. That way, their offices can have only one or two staffers. > > I very seldom have to go to the bank anyway. Everything is set up as > direct deposit or automated payment. Day to day I use cash, and get a few > hundred from the ATM as needed. The exception is using a card at gas > stations for the convenience. I've never had the need for online banking > or an app on the phone. People that don't do online banking have a problem here. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | maus <maus@debian.deb3> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 07:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn101gp9q.7ql.maus@debian.deb3> |
| In reply to | #230949 |
On 2025-05-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:16:39 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I use Chrome on the few occasions those things happen and I don't feel >> like walking, considering that here you need an appointment to enter the >> bank office. Or, phone their agent place. > > At least in the US you can walk in without an appointment. It's never been > more than a few minutes before someone sees you. The exception was during > the covid lockdown when the lobby was closed. > > I very seldom have to go to the bank anyway. Everything is set up as > direct deposit or automated payment. Day to day I use cash, and get a few > hundred from the ATM as needed. The exception is using a card at gas > stations for the convenience. I've never had the need for online banking > or an app on the phone. Pinoccio! The nightmare happened in Iberia last week, a niece of one on my friends was there, no money, no cards, and nobody uses cash. > > >
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 08:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7rcmuFqp15U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230956 |
On 5 May 2025 07:14:02 GMT, maus wrote: > The nightmare happened in Iberia last week, a niece of one on my friends > was there, no money, no cards, and nobody uses cash. Cards, google pay on your smart watch or phone, all very convenient. I like pictures of Benjamin Franklin. Of course when the computer system goes down they can't ring up the sale and take cash anyway.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 13:34 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <2bkmelxjui.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #230956 |
On 2025-05-05 09:14, maus wrote: > On 2025-05-04, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 4 May 2025 14:16:39 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> I use Chrome on the few occasions those things happen and I don't feel >>> like walking, considering that here you need an appointment to enter the >>> bank office. Or, phone their agent place. >> >> At least in the US you can walk in without an appointment. It's never been >> more than a few minutes before someone sees you. The exception was during >> the covid lockdown when the lobby was closed. >> >> I very seldom have to go to the bank anyway. Everything is set up as >> direct deposit or automated payment. Day to day I use cash, and get a few >> hundred from the ATM as needed. The exception is using a card at gas >> stations for the convenience. I've never had the need for online banking >> or an app on the phone. > > Pinoccio! > > The nightmare happened in Iberia last week, a niece of one on my friends > was there, no money, no cards, and nobody uses cash. The bazaars known here as "chinos", because they are mostly owned and staffed by Chinese people, prefer cash. They switched to cards during Covid, but now they are back to a minimum amount to accept cards. I also know some cafeterias that have a minimum. But even having cash on the Gran Apagón day and you had trouble to purchase things, because the cash register machines were down. They could not look up the price of things in supermarkets. Some places resorted to "you pay me back tomorrow". -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 18:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7sfh9F1lm0U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230963 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 13:34:26 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > But even having cash on the Gran Apagón day and you had trouble to > purchase things, because the cash register machines were down. They > could not look up the price of things in supermarkets. I was at the supermarket, my items checked out and bagged, standing there with a $20 bill when their computer system crashed. The cashier had seen the total on the screen before it crashed but couldn't complete the transaction. I wasn't in a hurry and the system rebooted in about 5 minutes but much longer and I would have abandoned my lunch purchases. fwiw, as the terminal started up it was apparent it was Windows :)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-05 23:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <g4nnelx15k.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #230972 |
On 2025-05-05 20:49, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 5 May 2025 13:34:26 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> But even having cash on the Gran Apagón day and you had trouble to >> purchase things, because the cash register machines were down. They >> could not look up the price of things in supermarkets. > > I was at the supermarket, my items checked out and bagged, standing there > with a $20 bill when their computer system crashed. The cashier had seen > the total on the screen before it crashed but couldn't complete the > transaction. I wasn't in a hurry and the system rebooted in about 5 > minutes but much longer and I would have abandoned my lunch purchases. > > fwiw, as the terminal started up it was apparent it was Windows :) That hasn't happened to me :-D There was a crash one day of the card system. People were stuck on the motorways, couldn't pay. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 04:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m7ti7bF6c75U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #230983 |
On Mon, 5 May 2025 23:28:16 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > There was a crash one day of the card system. People were stuck on the > motorways, couldn't pay. Quite a few toll roads have adopted rfid devices so you don't even have to stop to pay even for commercial trucks. Great system until the lights go out. i don't know what they do. Maybe for short term events they just eat the tolls rather than creating a huge snarl. The toll roads are mostly back east and high volume so it would be a real mess.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 12:02 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <8b3pelxvat.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #231002 |
On 2025-05-06 06:41, rbowman wrote: > On Mon, 5 May 2025 23:28:16 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> There was a crash one day of the card system. People were stuck on the >> motorways, couldn't pay. > > Quite a few toll roads have adopted rfid devices so you don't even have to > stop to pay even for commercial trucks. Great system until the lights go > out. i don't know what they do. Maybe for short term events they just eat > the tolls rather than creating a huge snarl. The toll roads are mostly > back east and high volume so it would be a real mess. Right. The case I mentioned before, was about paying the gas. That is significant money. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 14:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <wHoSP.3550$bRfb.1408@fx16.iad> |
| In reply to | #231002 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes: >On Mon, 5 May 2025 23:28:16 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> There was a crash one day of the card system. People were stuck on the >> motorways, couldn't pay. > >Quite a few toll roads have adopted rfid devices so you don't even have to >stop to pay even for commercial trucks. Great system until the lights go >out. i don't know what they do. Maybe for short term events they just eat >the tolls rather than creating a huge snarl. >The toll roads are mostly back east and high volume so it would be a real mess. Haven't been to LA or SF Bay area recently? They now have toll lanes and in some areas (Orange County) privately collected toll freeways.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-07 17:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m81k4hFqqdjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #231015 |
On Tue, 06 May 2025 14:06:20 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote: > rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes: >>On Mon, 5 May 2025 23:28:16 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> >>> There was a crash one day of the card system. People were stuck on the >>> motorways, couldn't pay. >> >>Quite a few toll roads have adopted rfid devices so you don't even have >>to stop to pay even for commercial trucks. Great system until the lights >>go out. i don't know what they do. Maybe for short term events they just >>eat the tolls rather than creating a huge snarl. > > >>The toll roads are mostly back east and high volume so it would be a >>real mess. > > Haven't been to LA or SF Bay area recently? They now have toll lanes > and in some areas (Orange County) privately collected toll freeways. No. When my brother was alive I'd visit him in Lompoc but I usually tried to sneak in without passing through either. Back in the '90s I'd come down the back way through Victorville but for some perverted reason decided to go back though Yuma. There's nothing as pleasant as sitting in traffic on a bike. It was the Thanksgiving weekend so at least I wasn't slow roasted.
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 16:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... |
| Message-ID | <vvddro$aab$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #231002 |
According to rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: >Quite a few toll roads have adopted rfid devices so you don't even have to >stop to pay even for commercial trucks. Great system until the lights go >out. i don't know what they do. Maybe for short term events they just eat >the tolls rather than creating a huge snarl. The toll roads are mostly >back east and high volume so it would be a real mess. Most of the toll roads I know have removed the toll booths and switched to overhead gantries. If you have a transponder, it bills your account, if not it reads your license plate and either bills your account if you've added your plate to it, or they mail you a bill. If the power goes out you travel for free since the gantries are just over the road, no gates or traffic lights. Fun fact: Vermont has no toll roads, so they don't provide license plate info and I guess Vermonters can travel for free. The savings from getting rid of the toll booths must be enormous so even if a few people don't pay, they're still way ahead. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-06 18:38 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: way to go, General Thoughts ... |
| Message-ID | <2HsSP.782$lK62.560@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #231018 |
On 2025-05-06, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > Most of the toll roads I know have removed the toll booths and switched > to overhead gantries. If you have a transponder, it bills your account, > if not it reads your license plate and either bills your account if you've > added your plate to it, or they mail you a bill. If the power goes out you > travel for free since the gantries are just over the road, no gates or > traffic lights. We had this in a couple of places where new bridges had been built. Some people would go far out of their way to get to one of the older non-tolled bridges, wastimg time and causing bottlenecks. Then the NDP (a left-wing party) got in and dismantled the automatic tolling systems. Too bad - it would have been fairer if they had just put a $1.00 toll on all crossings, rather than $3.25 on the new ones and nothing on the others. But this is the zany world of B.C. politics, where alternating parties battle with each other over whether an existing tunnel should be replaced by a bridge or another tunnel, and million-dollar studies are thrown away with each regime change. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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