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| Started by | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000 |
| Last post | 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 369 — 50 participants |
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Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "A.T. Murray" <mentificium@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 12:39 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 20:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2021-01-13 13:16 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 11:45 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-14 10:06 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2021-01-14 15:04 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 10:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 15:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 18:43 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 19:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 21:38 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 18:54 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-15 00:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-15 01:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 23:32 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-15 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-14 16:00 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 14:07 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 21:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-14 18:01 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 23:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-15 02:21 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 11:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 11:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-17 17:44 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 19:10 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 11:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-18 12:29 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 10:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-18 12:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-18 09:17 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:07 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-19 10:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 11:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-19 12:13 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 21:39 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-19 18:08 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-20 04:22 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-21 07:44 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-22 17:49 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-23 15:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-23 20:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-24 12:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-24 13:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-24 22:30 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 07:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:28 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 09:35 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:51 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 04:41 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:03 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 07:03 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 09:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:29 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:53 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 19:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 20:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2021-01-27 13:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:39 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 17:39 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:51 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-30 09:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 15:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 17:52 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-25 18:30 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 18:37 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 19:33 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 01:37 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:58 -0500
Re: just in case, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 18:57 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:59 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:22 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 18:09 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:19 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:27 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:22 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:48 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-25 15:45 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 19:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Joacim Melin <Joacim.Melin@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> - 2021-01-25 20:33 +0200
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 03:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:42 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 22:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-27 08:36 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:52 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-29 23:19 +0200
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 21:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:48 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-30 20:06 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 14:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:47 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:50 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:14 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 15:55 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 20:13 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 09:48 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:44 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 01:33 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 13:05 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 12:29 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 22:21 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:40 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-30 16:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 16:06 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 21:35 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-01 16:54 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-02-01 09:54 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-01 18:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 16:02 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 01:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:23 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 09:42 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 10:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:21 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 11:01 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:35 -0500
Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 04:15 +0000
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-25 23:32 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2021-01-26 04:58 -0800
Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 13:18 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:55 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 05:12 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 11:59 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:58 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 15:10 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 19:07 -0400
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:59 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-27 07:44 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:54 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:20 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-28 11:06 +0100
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 08:42 -0500
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 15:26 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Learning European languages lawrence <lawrence@cluon.com> - 2021-01-28 12:54 -0600
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:06 +0000
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:04 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:45 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-20 18:22 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-20 13:12 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-21 15:36 +0100
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-21 17:49 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2021-01-29 01:47 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-31 18:09 +0200
Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 10:27 +0000
Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 11:31 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:50 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:56 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-26 22:23 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 23:15 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 00:06 -0500
Re: Learning European languages JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:58 -0600
Re: Learning European languages Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:17 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 16:03 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 23:06 -0400
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:34 -0400
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:58 -0500
Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 23:30 -0500
Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:24 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
Re: Learning European languages "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:12 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 22:44 -0400
Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 20:01 -0500
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 19:48 +0000
Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 20:02 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 12:03 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) jolomo@gmail.com (Joe Morris) - 2021-01-26 19:17 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:46 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:26 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:35 +0000
Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:46 -0500
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:10 +0000
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:04 -0600
Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:16 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:25 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:46 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:47 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:30 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 15:52 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:57 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:43 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 20:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:31 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 00:10 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:01 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:31 -0500
Re: linguistic miracles, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 19:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-26 14:05 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 16:34 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:57 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:55 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-30 04:58 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:56 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:32 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 12:24 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 13:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-29 04:05 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:45 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:55 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 19:45 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 16:00 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 19:00 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:43 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:10 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 16:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 14:37 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 20:31 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 12:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-29 10:21 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-29 17:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-29 17:15 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:14 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:58 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-29 14:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 21:02 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 14:09 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-31 00:09 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 20:27 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-31 05:35 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-31 01:37 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 21:18 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 21:57 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:38 -0500
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:27 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:42 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:45 +0000
Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2021-02-01 15:00 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 09:39 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 14:22 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-26 22:40 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-26 23:28 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-02-27 10:43 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:22 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-28 20:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-28 22:50 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:09 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-02 02:02 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-02-02 04:38 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 11:20 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 17:16 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:04 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-19 17:58 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 22:47 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:12 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-23 22:04 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-24 09:27 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-24 17:33 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 19:23 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 00:05 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 12:51 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-24 17:23 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 15:45 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-25 05:03 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 09:59 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-25 16:52 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2021-02-25 19:38 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-25 19:44 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-25 21:46 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-26 05:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:59 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-26 20:53 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-27 10:51 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-27 11:19 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:17 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 13:52 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-02-26 10:53 -1000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:29 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:27 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-09-29 17:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 13:32 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:50 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:10 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 19:54 +0100
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:48 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:51 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:03 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:33 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:56 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> - 2021-01-31 05:32 -0800
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 15:58 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 21:27 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 22:11 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 22:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:08 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 17:49 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 18:41 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 19:01 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-31 19:32 -0400
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 09:24 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 11:45 -0700
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-01 21:34 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 18:19 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 01:13 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 06:50 +0000
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:12 -0500
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 09:21 -0600
Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2021-02-01 16:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rv9bnt$co7$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #216775 |
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> schrieb: > On 01/02/2021 02:35, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: >> On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 16:06:35 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: >>> Remembering a joke: >>> "Genitiv ins Wasser!" >>> "Warum, ist es Dativ?" >>> Play with words only works in German. >> I should had translated it. Genitive and dative has no "e" at the end, >> but as English often swallows vowels at the end of a word, they sound >> pretty much the same. >> And "tiv" is also pronounced like "tief" in German, which means >> "deep". So >> "Genitiv ins Wasser!" >> could be written as "Geh nie tief in Wasser", which translates to "Never >> go deep into the water. >> "Warum, ist es Dativ?" >> That could be written as "Warum, ist es da tief?", which translates "Why, >> is it deep there?". > > I have inherited my mother's German text books from the > 1930s decade, and not only as obscure as the above, but printed > with a stylised typeface with many strange characters! Probably "Fraktur". It is actually a little bit better for writing German than the Antiqua letters we are now using. For example, the difference between Wachs-tube (a wax tube) and Wach-stube (guardroom) becomes apparent because there are two different letters for s which make the difference apparent. It was actually Hitler who decided to discontinue use of Fraktur, because he thought it made world domination easier (or something like that, sources differ).
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| From | maus <maus@dmaus.org> |
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| Date | 2021-02-01 09:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrns1fjv3.t27.maus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #216761 |
On 2021-01-31, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: > On 30 Jan 2021 16:04:05 GMT, maus wrote: >> >> On 2021-01-30, Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> wrote: >>> On Mo 25 Jan 2021 at 22:12, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Novice speakers would most likely say "Das Auto gehört der Mann", because >>>> "der" is a masculine article. Correct is "Das Auto gehört dem Mann". But >>>> if you use woman (Frau) instead of a man you get "Das Auto gehört der >>>> Frau". Again, "der" is masculine, but it is correct! Because this is the >>>> third case (accusative) <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusative>. >>> >>> Third case is correct, but it is called Dativ. Akkusativ is the fourth case! > > Long long ago... You're right. > > Remembering a joke: > > "Genitiv ins Wasser!" > "Warum, ist es Dativ?" > > Play with words only works in German. > >> "Das Auto gehort der Mann", back to self-drive car subject? >> >> >> "Das Auto gehort der Mann", back to self-drive car subject? >> >> "Das Auto gehort der Police", more likely > > It's "gehört" (or if no Umlaut key available, "gehoert". "Gehort" is no > German word. Btw. "Police" is "Polizei" in German. > Why I like English!.. Describing a contact with police here (.ie) , a good contact can be with `police' (Gaelic `Gardai') or a hostile one would be with `polizei' as in the former police of East Germany, who are probably rebranded now as ordinary German Police. (In Ireland, the former official police force, (R.I.C) were allowed to retire when the new state was organized. but many were brought back immediatly, mostly former (D.M.P) Dublin Police, and so on.) > > And apropos Polizei. Italian (and that I find interesting) Euro dance at > Mo-Do did a song in 1994 called "Eins, zwei Polizei". If you (in North > America) wonder what Euro trash pop you missed in the 1990s, there is a > good point to start. :-D > > https://www.youtube.com/watc)h?v=pnphuffsCiY -- greymausg@mail.com
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-02-01 18:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87pn1jxtzr.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #216772 |
On 1 Feb 2021 09:54:43 GMT, maus wrote: > > On 2021-01-31, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: >> >> It's "gehört" (or if no Umlaut key available, "gehoert". "Gehort" is no >> German word. Btw. "Police" is "Polizei" in German. >> > Why I like English!.. Describing a contact with police here (.ie) , > a good contact can be with `police' (Gaelic `Gardai') or a hostile one > would be with `polizei' as in the former police of East Germany, who are > probably rebranded now as ordinary German Police. It's also "police" in French (and France). Am amazed that in Quebec they're also called "police", because it otherwise seems to rename everything to fit into the French language (NATO is OTAN, KFC is PFK...). Let's not put the RCMP into this. ;-) So bad countries don't call their police "police". Like "Polizei" in Germany or "Polizia" in Italy, the axis powers. ;-) -- Andreas PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rvak9s01njn@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #216790 |
On 2021-02-01, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: > On 1 Feb 2021 09:54:43 GMT, maus wrote: > >> On 2021-01-31, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: >> >>> It's "gehört" (or if no Umlaut key available, "gehoert". "Gehort" is no >>> German word. Btw. "Police" is "Polizei" in German. >>> >> Why I like English!.. Describing a contact with police here (.ie) , >> a good contact can be with `police' (Gaelic `Gardai') or a hostile one >> would be with `polizei' as in the former police of East Germany, who are >> probably rebranded now as ordinary German Police. > > It's also "police" in French (and France). Am amazed that in Quebec > they're also called "police", because it otherwise seems to rename > everything to fit into the French language (NATO is OTAN, KFC is > PFK...). Let's not put the RCMP into this. ;-) Oh, let's. In French it's GRC (Gendarmerie royal du Canada). Police cars are marked RCMP-GRC. After a shootout with a local gangster whose name was (IIRC) Rocko Cervo, it was suggested that RCMP-GRC stood for "Rocko Cervo Meets Police - Goodbye Rocko Cervo". Time to knock off - it's now 04:25 UTC (Co-ordinated Universal Time). -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | "Some of you may die, \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | but it's a sacrifice X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | I'm willing to make." / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 16:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <202855318.633307912.602706.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #216491 |
Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: >> >> Has the EU solved the “official language” problem yet? I read somewhere >> that Gaelic is the official language of Ireland ( maybe co-equal with >> English?) and with BREXIT that left no EU member whose official language >> was English, so it was no longer an official language of the EU. > > There is no language problem in the EU. English is and was the language > of business and IT, and that is unlikely to change. > > I heard that if you want to work in an office at Nestle in Switzerland > speaking any of the four Swiss languages (German, French, Italian and > Romansh, sorted by numbers of speakers) won't help. You need to speak > English. > > But if you want to have a "new official language" in the EU you might > have to look at German. Somewhere I read that official EU documents have to be published in the official language of each of the member states. If no country has English as its official language then English is no longer required. > German speakers account for the largest group > inside Europe. But that won't happen either. Everybody seems to be happy > with English now. And German is much harder to learn than English, if you > are from Spain, France, Italy or any other country with its own proper > language. Every country is jealous of its own language. The French would probably never accept German, and vise-versa. I would think English is a much harder language than German because of its quixotic spelling and pronunciation. Its only advantage is its ubiquity, so everyone has some exposure to it. German is pronounced as it’s spelled. > > I don't think anybody wants to learn German or Gaelic in Europe. I (sort of) learned German for a number of reasons. One of them is that it’s the most widely-spoken language. I’d love to learn Gaelic, among others, but I think 1-1/2 languages are about my limit. -- Pete
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 01:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <runsbr$2f6t$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #216509 |
In article <202855318.633307912.602706.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >> But if you want to have a "new official language" in the EU you might >> have to look at German. > >Somewhere I read that official EU documents have to be published in the >official language of each of the member states. If no country has English >as its official language then English is no longer required. I think you have made a lot of Irish people sad. >> I don't think anybody wants to learn German or Gaelic in Europe. Lots of people want to learn German if they plan to live or work in Germany or Austria or Switzerland. While most German speakers speak at least some English, you're at a disadvantage if you have to ask people to switch. My German is pretty bad, but I found that people in Germany appreciated and were sometimes amused by my efforts to speak their language. On the other hand, everyone in Ireland and Scotland now speaks English. While there are cultural and political reasons one might learn Irish or Gaelic, you don't need it to communicate. I read somewhere that the EU has chronic problems finding translators between their minor languages, e.g. between Danish and Greek. They don't want to fall back to double translation with a a major language in between. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | maus <maus@dmaus.org> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 08:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrns0vkcq.1h8.maus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #216511 |
On 2021-01-26, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > In article <202855318.633307912.602706.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>, > Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> But if you want to have a "new official language" in the EU you might >>> have to look at German. >> >>Somewhere I read that official EU documents have to be published in the >>official language of each of the member states. If no country has English >>as its official language then English is no longer required. > > I think you have made a lot of Irish people sad. > And a great many happy. Irish people only start liking Gaelic when they emigrate. Otherwise it is a PITA. > >>> I don't think anybody wants to learn German or Gaelic in Europe. > > Lots of people want to learn German if they plan to live or work in > Germany or Austria or Switzerland. > In the latter two, local variants are common. > > > While most German speakers speak at > least some English, you're at a disadvantage if you have to ask people > to switch. My German is pretty bad, but I found that people in Germany > appreciated and were sometimes amused by my efforts to speak their > language. ``Why are you strangling my language?'' > > > On the other hand, everyone in Ireland and Scotland now speaks > English. While there are cultural and political reasons one might > learn Irish or Gaelic, you don't need it to communicate. > > I read somewhere that the EU has chronic problems finding translators > between their minor languages, e.g. between Danish and Greek. They > don't want to fall back to double translation with a a major language > in between. > Politics rears its ugly head. During the 30s, there was a movement to replace English words with German in Germany `fernseher'?. Up North, speaking Gaelic will identify one as a Republican, whereas speaking Welsh in Wales does not send any message. -- greymausg@mail.com
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 09:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsACBE62C02EE5Dadmin127001@144.76.35.252> |
| In reply to | #216523 |
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:23:54 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: > On 2021-01-26, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >> In article >> <202855318.633307912.602706.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-septemb >> er.org>, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> But if you want to have a "new official language" in the EU you >>>> might have to look at German. >>> >>>Somewhere I read that official EU documents have to be published in >>>the official language of each of the member states. If no country has >>>English as its official language then English is no longer required. >> >> I think you have made a lot of Irish people sad. >> > And a great many happy. Irish people only start liking Gaelic when > they emigrate. Otherwise it is a PITA. >> >>>> I don't think anybody wants to learn German or Gaelic in Europe. >> >> Lots of people want to learn German if they plan to live or work in >> Germany or Austria or Switzerland. >> > In the latter two, local variants are common. >> >> >> While most German speakers speak at >> least some English, you're at a disadvantage if you have to ask >> people to switch. My German is pretty bad, but I found that people in >> Germany appreciated and were sometimes amused by my efforts to speak >> their language. > > ``Why are you strangling my language?'' >> >> >> On the other hand, everyone in Ireland and Scotland now speaks >> English. While there are cultural and political reasons one might >> learn Irish or Gaelic, you don't need it to communicate. >> >> I read somewhere that the EU has chronic problems finding translators >> between their minor languages, e.g. between Danish and Greek. They >> don't want to fall back to double translation with a a major language >> in between. >> > Politics rears its ugly head. During the 30s, there was a movement to > replace English words with German in Germany `fernseher'?. Up North, > speaking Gaelic will identify one as a Republican, whereas speaking > Welsh in Wales does not send any message. > I think that the English consider that people speaking Welsh in the company of an English person is a snub! IRRC the last monolingual Welsh speaker died in the 1980s. I see the Irish can name theirs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%A1n_%C3%93_hEinir%C3%AD -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 10:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20210126101644.d90b56c96b9a7dada508b440@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #216527 |
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 09:42:27 -0000 (UTC) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: > I think that the English consider that people speaking Welsh in the > company of an English person is a snub! I have heard Welsh people talking in corridors switching language as I approach and switching back after I have passed. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1880561760.633380227.928564.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #216527 |
Kerr-Mudd,John <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:23:54 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: > >> On 2021-01-26, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >>> In article >>> <202855318.633307912.602706.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-septemb >>> er.org>, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> But if you want to have a "new official language" in the EU you >>>>> might have to look at German. >>>> >>>> Somewhere I read that official EU documents have to be published in >>>> the official language of each of the member states. If no country has >>>> English as its official language then English is no longer required. >>> >>> I think you have made a lot of Irish people sad. >>> >> And a great many happy. Irish people only start liking Gaelic when >> they emigrate. Otherwise it is a PITA. >>> >>>>> I don't think anybody wants to learn German or Gaelic in Europe. >>> >>> Lots of people want to learn German if they plan to live or work in >>> Germany or Austria or Switzerland. >>> >> In the latter two, local variants are common. >>> >>> >>> While most German speakers speak at >>> least some English, you're at a disadvantage if you have to ask >>> people to switch. My German is pretty bad, but I found that people in >>> Germany appreciated and were sometimes amused by my efforts to speak >>> their language. >> >> ``Why are you strangling my language?'' >>> >>> >>> On the other hand, everyone in Ireland and Scotland now speaks >>> English. While there are cultural and political reasons one might >>> learn Irish or Gaelic, you don't need it to communicate. >>> >>> I read somewhere that the EU has chronic problems finding translators >>> between their minor languages, e.g. between Danish and Greek. They >>> don't want to fall back to double translation with a a major language >>> in between. >>> >> Politics rears its ugly head. During the 30s, there was a movement to >> replace English words with German in Germany `fernseher'?. Up North, >> speaking Gaelic will identify one as a Republican, whereas speaking >> Welsh in Wales does not send any message. >> > I think that the English consider that people speaking Welsh in the > company of an English person is a snub! In mixed company it is. I hear French people,do, or did, will refuse answer a question in English, even if they speak and understand the language. > > IRRC the last monolingual Welsh speaker died in the 1980s. > I see the Irish can name theirs: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%A1n_%C3%93_hEinir%C3%AD It’s dad to see a language fade out. Each different language is really a different way of thinking about things -- Pete
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 19:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <08c11gdcl3s2slpshobqfqmgvh7objadlf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #216547 |
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:06:29 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >Kerr-Mudd,John <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: >> On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 08:23:54 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote: >> >>> On 2021-01-26, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: >>>> In article >>>> <202855318.633307912.602706.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-septemb >>>> er.org>, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> But if you want to have a "new official language" in the EU you >>>>>> might have to look at German. >>>>> >>>>> Somewhere I read that official EU documents have to be published in >>>>> the official language of each of the member states. If no country has >>>>> English as its official language then English is no longer required. >>>> >>>> I think you have made a lot of Irish people sad. >>>> >>> And a great many happy. Irish people only start liking Gaelic when >>> they emigrate. Otherwise it is a PITA. >>>> >>>>>> I don't think anybody wants to learn German or Gaelic in Europe. >>>> >>>> Lots of people want to learn German if they plan to live or work in >>>> Germany or Austria or Switzerland. >>>> >>> In the latter two, local variants are common. >>>> >>>> >>>> While most German speakers speak at >>>> least some English, you're at a disadvantage if you have to ask >>>> people to switch. My German is pretty bad, but I found that people in >>>> Germany appreciated and were sometimes amused by my efforts to speak >>>> their language. >>> >>> ``Why are you strangling my language?'' >>>> >>>> >>>> On the other hand, everyone in Ireland and Scotland now speaks >>>> English. While there are cultural and political reasons one might >>>> learn Irish or Gaelic, you don't need it to communicate. >>>> >>>> I read somewhere that the EU has chronic problems finding translators >>>> between their minor languages, e.g. between Danish and Greek. They >>>> don't want to fall back to double translation with a a major language >>>> in between. >>>> >>> Politics rears its ugly head. During the 30s, there was a movement to >>> replace English words with German in Germany `fernseher'?. Up North, >>> speaking Gaelic will identify one as a Republican, whereas speaking >>> Welsh in Wales does not send any message. >>> >> I think that the English consider that people speaking Welsh in the >> company of an English person is a snub! > >In mixed company it is. I hear French people,do, or did, will refuse answer >a question in English, even if they speak and understand the language. On the other hand you can wear them down. I remember the counter person at a fast food place finally telling me "Just say it in English". >> >> IRRC the last monolingual Welsh speaker died in the 1980s. >> I see the Irish can name theirs: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se%C3%A1n_%C3%93_hEinir%C3%AD > >It’s dad to see a language fade out. Each different language is really a >different way of thinking about things
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| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 11:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ruosqq$ve6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #216511 |
On 26/01/2021 01:47, John Levine wrote: > > ... They > don't want to fall back to double translation with a a major language > in between. > A topic well covered by Monty Python ... My hovercraft is full of eels
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 18:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rupn5b01d8m@news4.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #216531 |
On 2021-01-26, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: > On 26/01/2021 01:47, John Levine wrote: > >> ... They >> don't want to fall back to double translation with a a major language >> in between. > > A topic well covered by Monty Python ... My hovercraft is full of eels Then there's Pedro Carolino's delightful book _English As She Is Spoke_, a Portugese-English phrasebook. The author, undeterred by the fact that he didn't speak English, passed phrases through a Portugese-French book followed by a French-English book. The results are a delightful piece of unintentional humour. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | "Some of you may die, \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | but it's a sacrifice X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | I'm willing to make." / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 19:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qhc11g5638ttl3dmd2848mlfplpnv1c077@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #216539 |
On 26 Jan 2021 18:31:07 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >On 2021-01-26, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> On 26/01/2021 01:47, John Levine wrote: >> >>> ... They >>> don't want to fall back to double translation with a a major language >>> in between. >> >> A topic well covered by Monty Python ... My hovercraft is full of eels > >Then there's Pedro Carolino's delightful book _English As She Is Spoke_, >a Portugese-English phrasebook. The author, undeterred by the fact that >he didn't speak English, passed phrases through a Portugese-French book >followed by a French-English book. The results are a delightful piece >of unintentional humour. Then there is the famous and likely apocryphal round trip from English to Russian and back. What went in was "The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak", what came back was "The vodka is strong but the meat is rotten".
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 22:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87pn1sgyl0.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #216509 |
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:02:37 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: > > Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: >> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: >>> >>> Has the EU solved the “official language” problem yet? I read somewhere >>> that Gaelic is the official language of Ireland ( maybe co-equal with >>> English?) and with BREXIT that left no EU member whose official language >>> was English, so it was no longer an official language of the EU. >> >> There is no language problem in the EU. English is and was the language >> of business and IT, and that is unlikely to change. >> >> I heard that if you want to work in an office at Nestle in Switzerland >> speaking any of the four Swiss languages (German, French, Italian and >> Romansh, sorted by numbers of speakers) won't help. You need to speak >> English. >> >> But if you want to have a "new official language" in the EU you might >> have to look at German. > > Somewhere I read that official EU documents have to be published in the > official language of each of the member states. If no country has English > as its official language then English is no longer required. The EU has still a long way ahead to become one country. So documents are handled like in the past X hundred year inside of every country. That might be different in the European parliament. Am guessing here and assume they are issued in all languages of the members of the EU. Some countries, like Germany, Austria and parts of Switzerland can be eliminated because they speak German, while France and Italy take care of the French and Italian parts of Switzerland. Then look at the United Nations HQ in New York. Suppose not everyone speaks English. >> German speakers account for the largest group >> inside Europe. But that won't happen either. Everybody seems to be happy >> with English now. And German is much harder to learn than English, if you >> are from Spain, France, Italy or any other country with its own proper >> language. > > Every country is jealous of its own language. The French would probably > never accept German, and vise-versa. Yes, I agree. > I would think English is a much harder language than German because of > its quixotic spelling and pronunciation. I guess you're wrong here. Anyone here not a native English speaker, who learned English and German, can tell what was harder to learn? > Its only advantage is its ubiquity, so everyone has some exposure to > it. German is pronounced as it’s spelled. With few exception, plus regional differences. >> I don't think anybody wants to learn German or Gaelic in Europe. > > I (sort of) learned German for a number of reasons. One of them is that > it’s the most widely-spoken language. I’d love to learn Gaelic, among > others, but I think 1-1/2 languages are about my limit. German most widely spoken? I assume that is either Chinese (well they have different flavors), Hindu (they also have) or Spanish. Almost all countries of South America (Brazil might be one of the few exceptions) have Spanish as official language. French might also have a large area outside mainland France. Many African countries for example. -- Andreas
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 04:15 +0000 |
| Subject | Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <i79jbtFb8tsU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #216516 |
On 2021-01-26, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>
>> I would think English is a much harder language than German because of
>> its quixotic spelling and pronunciation.
>
> I guess you're wrong here.
>
> Anyone here not a native English speaker, who learned English and German,
> can tell what was harder to learn?
I've definitely managed to learn English much more thoroughly than
German, but I don't think it's a fair comparison. English is ubiquitous,
as Peter touched upon.
I started using computers at an early age, and while translated software
existed even back then, you couldn't really rely on it existing, so
English was a vital skill. Later I started reading books in English as
well, and of course, Sweden doesn't dub anything intended for an
audience old enough to read.
Basically I got about the maximum amount of immersion possible without
living in an English-speaking country.
I could of course have immersed myself in German literature and whatnot
as well, but could never quite work up the motivation. What was
available in English generally interested me more, and I was already up
to speed on that language.
>> I (sort of) learned German for a number of reasons. One of them is that
>> it’s the most widely-spoken language. I’d love to learn Gaelic, among
>> others, but I think 1-1/2 languages are about my limit.
>
> German most widely spoken? I assume that is either Chinese (well they
> have different flavors), Hindu (they also have) or Spanish. Almost all
> countries of South America (Brazil might be one of the few exceptions)
> have Spanish as official language.
I took it to mean most widely spoken in Europe.
Niklas
--
Hungarian Notation is the tactical nuclear weapon of source code obfuscation
techniques.
-- Roedy Green
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-25 23:32 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <s76v0gpoqhq3p24513un9p7buhucfpe6bd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #216519 |
On 26 Jan 2021 04:15:57 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: >On 2021-01-26, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: >> >>> I would think English is a much harder language than German because of >>> its quixotic spelling and pronunciation. >> >> I guess you're wrong here. >> >> Anyone here not a native English speaker, who learned English and German, >> can tell what was harder to learn? > >I've definitely managed to learn English much more thoroughly than >German, but I don't think it's a fair comparison. English is ubiquitous, >as Peter touched upon. > >I started using computers at an early age, and while translated software >existed even back then, you couldn't really rely on it existing, so >English was a vital skill. Later I started reading books in English as >well, and of course, Sweden doesn't dub anything intended for an >audience old enough to read. > >Basically I got about the maximum amount of immersion possible without >living in an English-speaking country. > >I could of course have immersed myself in German literature and whatnot >as well, but could never quite work up the motivation. What was >available in English generally interested me more, and I was already up >to speed on that language. > >>> I (sort of) learned German for a number of reasons. One of them is that >>> it’s the most widely-spoken language. I’d love to learn Gaelic, among >>> others, but I think 1-1/2 languages are about my limit. >> >> German most widely spoken? I assume that is either Chinese (well they >> have different flavors), Hindu (they also have) or Spanish. Almost all >> countries of South America (Brazil might be one of the few exceptions) >> have Spanish as official language. > >I took it to mean most widely spoken in Europe. I'm told that India has many languages--only about 40% of the population are native speakers of Hindi. The most spoken language in the world is English, narrowly edging out Mandarin, with Hindi third and Spanish fourth. OTOH, Mandarin has the largest number of native speakers, followed by Spanish, English, and Hindi in that order.
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| From | Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 04:58 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <5d620400-6410-46a8-b103-25bca1597739n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #216520 |
On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 10:32:24 PM UTC-6, J. Clarke wrote: > On 26 Jan 2021 04:15:57 GMT, Niklas Karlsson wrote: > > >On 2021-01-26, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: > >> > >>> I would think English is a much harder language than German because of > >>> its quixotic spelling and pronunciation. > >> > >> I guess you're wrong here. > >> > >> Anyone here not a native English speaker, who learned English and German, > >> can tell what was harder to learn? > > > >I've definitely managed to learn English much more thoroughly than > >German, but I don't think it's a fair comparison. English is ubiquitous, > >as Peter touched upon. > > > >I started using computers at an early age, and while translated software > >existed even back then, you couldn't really rely on it existing, so > >English was a vital skill. Later I started reading books in English as > >well, and of course, Sweden doesn't dub anything intended for an > >audience old enough to read. > > > >Basically I got about the maximum amount of immersion possible without > >living in an English-speaking country. > > > >I could of course have immersed myself in German literature and whatnot > >as well, but could never quite work up the motivation. What was > >available in English generally interested me more, and I was already up > >to speed on that language. > > > >>> I (sort of) learned German for a number of reasons. One of them is that > >>> it’s the most widely-spoken language. I’d love to learn Gaelic, among > >>> others, but I think 1-1/2 languages are about my limit. > >> > >> German most widely spoken? I assume that is either Chinese (well they > >> have different flavors), Hindu (they also have) or Spanish. Almost all > >> countries of South America (Brazil might be one of the few exceptions) > >> have Spanish as official language. > > > >I took it to mean most widely spoken in Europe. > I'm told that India has many languages--only about 40% of the > population are native speakers of Hindi. The most spoken language in > the world is English, narrowly edging out Mandarin, with Hindi third > and Spanish fourth. OTOH, Mandarin has the largest number of native > speakers, followed by Spanish, English, and Hindi in that order. I bought a book back around 1988 or so, it dealt with (among other things) the spread of languages and dialects. At that time, there were more people in China learning English than there were English speakers in all other countries. _________________________________ Gerard Schildberger
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 13:18 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <20210126131823.1c6d7b22690c94d4580488e5@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #216532 |
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 04:58:21 -0800 (PST) Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> wrote: > I bought a book back around 1988 or so, it dealt with (among other things) > the spread of languages and dialects. At that time, there were more > people in China learning English than there were English speakers > in all other countries. I saw that fact mentioned on an advert (for HSBC IIRC) in theifrow a few years back. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Learning European languages |
| Message-ID | <1347934509.633379692.693878.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #216520 |
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > On 26 Jan 2021 04:15:57 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: > >> On 2021-01-26, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I would think English is a much harder language than German because of >>>> its quixotic spelling and pronunciation. >>> >>> I guess you're wrong here. >>> >>> Anyone here not a native English speaker, who learned English and German, >>> can tell what was harder to learn? >> >> I've definitely managed to learn English much more thoroughly than >> German, but I don't think it's a fair comparison. English is ubiquitous, >> as Peter touched upon. >> >> I started using computers at an early age, and while translated software >> existed even back then, you couldn't really rely on it existing, so >> English was a vital skill. Later I started reading books in English as >> well, and of course, Sweden doesn't dub anything intended for an >> audience old enough to read. >> >> Basically I got about the maximum amount of immersion possible without >> living in an English-speaking country. >> >> I could of course have immersed myself in German literature and whatnot >> as well, but could never quite work up the motivation. What was >> available in English generally interested me more, and I was already up >> to speed on that language. >> >>>> I (sort of) learned German for a number of reasons. One of them is that >>>> it’s the most widely-spoken language. I’d love to learn Gaelic, among >>>> others, but I think 1-1/2 languages are about my limit. >>> >>> German most widely spoken? I assume that is either Chinese (well they >>> have different flavors), Hindu (they also have) or Spanish. Almost all >>> countries of South America (Brazil might be one of the few exceptions) >>> have Spanish as official language. >> >> I took it to mean most widely spoken in Europe. > > I'm told that India has many languages--only about 40% of the > population are native speakers of Hindi. The most spoken language in > the world is English, narrowly edging out Mandarin, with Hindi third > and Spanish fourth. OTOH, Mandarin has the largest number of native > speakers, followed by Spanish, English, and Hindi in that order. > I seem to recall that India wanted to eliminate English as an official language in favor of Hindi only, but they got so much blowback from non native-Hindi speakers that they backed down. English is seen as a neutral language that doesn’t favor any particular ethnic group. -- Pete
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