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Computers on TV

Started byDouglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com>
First post2020-10-25 16:47 -0700
Last post2021-01-14 22:15 +0000
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  Computers on TV Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> - 2020-10-25 16:47 -0700
    Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 05:55 +0000
      Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 10:10 +0000
        Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 11:13 +0000
          Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 09:19 -0700
            Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 12:52 -0400
              Re: Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-26 18:05 +0000
                Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 19:20 +0000
                  Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0500
                    Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:10 -0400
                Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:05 -0400
                  Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 06:12 +0000
              Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 15:40 -0700
                Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 18:17 -0500
                  Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 00:04 -0400
                Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 23:39 -0400
                Re: Computers on TV scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-27 14:44 +0000
              Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 09:15 +0000
                Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 09:19 +0000
            Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 17:11 +0000
              Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 15:42 -0700
                Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-10-26 15:53 -0700
              Re: Computers on TV "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-04 13:49 +0000
            Re: Computers on TV drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-10-26 16:05 -0500
        Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 08:27 -0400
          Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:55 -0500
            Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 13:03 +0000
              Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 08:18 -0500
                Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-10-26 14:25 +0000
                Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 11:57 -0400
                  Re: Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-26 18:05 +0000
                    Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:07 -0400
                      Re: Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-27 19:36 +0000
                  Re: Computers on TV Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 17:26 -0700
                Re: Computers on TV Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-07 17:48 +0000
            Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 11:54 -0400
            Re: Computers on TV Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2020-10-26 22:51 -0400
          Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 12:54 +0000
            Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-26 13:24 +0000
            Re: Computers on TV Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-26 14:52 -0700
              Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:06 -0400
              Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 17:23 -0500
                Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 17:36 -0500
                  Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 00:08 -0400
                Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 00:06 -0400
              Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 22:34 +0000
              Re: Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 09:52 -0500
                Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 10:07 -0500
                  Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 15:36 +0000
                  Re: Computers on TV Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-10-27 11:41 -0500
                  Re: Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 08:32 -0500
                Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 15:22 +0000
              Re: Computers on TV Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-27 17:35 +0000
                Re: Computers on TV Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-10-27 11:08 -0700
                  Re: Computers on TV scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-27 18:32 +0000
                  Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 18:00 -0400
                Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-27 18:27 +0000
                  Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 18:01 -0400
                    Re: Computers on TV Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-10-28 08:22 +0000
                      Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 11:40 -0400
                  Re: Computers on TV Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-27 15:56 -0700
                    Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 19:56 -0400
                Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 13:39 -0500
                  Re: Computers on TV David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2020-11-07 22:38 +0000
            Re: Computers on TV Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-10-26 19:13 -0300
              Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 17:33 -0500
              Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 06:19 +0000
                Re: Computers on TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-10-27 20:40 +0100
                  Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 16:31 -0500
                    Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 18:02 -0400
                      Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-27 17:15 -0500
                        Re: Computers on TV Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-10-27 18:30 -0400
                          Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-28 08:56 +0000
                            Re: Computers on TV Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-10-28 10:36 -0700
                              Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 14:53 -0500
                                Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 16:13 -0400
                                  Re: Computers on TV Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 19:22 -0400
                                    Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 22:22 -0400
                                    Re: Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-02 15:42 -0600
                            Re: Computers on TV Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-30 20:12 +0000
                          Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-28 08:44 -0500
                      Re: Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-10-28 08:40 -0500
                Re: Computers on TV Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-10-28 19:34 -0300
          Re: Computers on TV scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-10-26 14:38 +0000
        Re: Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-10-26 18:05 +0000
          Re: Computers on TV J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-10-26 18:08 -0400
            Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-27 06:25 +0000
        Re: Computers on TV usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-10-29 20:05 +0000
      Re: Computers on TV Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-10-26 19:46 +0000
        Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-10-26 20:57 +0000
      Re: Computers on TV Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-10-27 06:26 +0000
      Re: Computers on TV ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2020-10-27 16:07 +0000
    Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-10-26 07:31 -0500
    Re: Computers on TV Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-12-21 12:16 -0500
      Re: Computers on TV Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-12-21 11:35 -0600
        Re: Computers on TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-12-21 17:54 +0000
        Re: Computers on TV jtmpreno <none@znet.com> - 2020-12-21 09:57 -0800
          Re: Computers on TV Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2020-12-21 17:05 -0500
            Re: Computers on TV Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-12-22 00:05 -0500
        Re: Computers on TV maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-12-21 18:41 +0000
          Re: Computers on TV Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-12-21 20:11 +0000
        Re: Computers on TV Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-12-21 19:28 +0000
          Re: Computers on TV Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-01-14 22:04 +0100
        Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-12-21 23:05 +0000
          Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-22 08:05 -0800
            Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-12-22 12:14 -0600
              Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-12-22 19:23 +0000
            Re: driving on the right side (as opposed to the wrong side), not Computers on TV John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-12-22 19:21 +0000
        Re: Computers on TV Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-22 08:00 -0800
          Re: Computers on TV Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-12-25 20:05 +0000
        Re: Computers on TV Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 22:15 +0000

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#215033

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-28 08:44 -0500
Message-ID<rnbsjd$a72$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215016
On 10/27/2020 5:30 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
> Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> writes:
> 
>> On 10/27/2020 5:02 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> However at one time some warships had transparent situation boards on
>>> which one drew with a grease pencil.
>>>
>>
>> I would imagine that in confined spaces I would enjoy not having my
>> view of my surroundings blocked by always opaque screens.   I would
>> probably have to try it to see what real difference it makes, At least
>> I have lived long enough to enjoy thin opaque screens.  I am sharing a
>> room with ten of them at the moment.   They are wrapped around me in a
>> horseshoe pattern.
>>
>> My son stacks his vertically.   Mine are all sitting on the same plane.
> 
> So, you change your chair position for each monitor you use?
> 
> I have one 27" 3840x2160 display.
> I have another 1600x1200 21" in storage.
> Every once in a while I think of making it a second display.
> But I'm hard put to put my current display space to full use.
> 
> 

I do.   It is a test bench with various PCs on it.

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#215032

FromJimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-28 08:40 -0500
Message-ID<l5tipf9hf06toe38isbjhtrj8j2n1s7iuq@4ax.com>
In reply to#215014
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:02:45 -0400, J. Clarke
<jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 16:31:50 -0500, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
>
>>On 10/27/2020 2:40 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> There was a transparent map (so not an active display) used on a movie of a submarine or surface 
>>> vessel - I don't know if that was film fantasy creation or if the military actually use them. Seems 
>>> to me they can shatter to pieces on impact during battle.
>>> 
>>
>>The movie Avatar features transparent screens
>>
>>https://listverse.com/2018/11/29/10-futuristic-technologies-of-avatar-that-we-already-have/
>
>It features many things that are not real.
>
>However at one time some warships had transparent situation boards on
>which one drew with a grease pencil.

And backwards, so the people standing on the other side could read the
text.

-- 
Jim

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#215062

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2020-10-28 19:34 -0300
Message-ID<87mu06m134.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#214972
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:

> On 26 Oct 2020 19:13:40 -0300
> Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>> 
>>> Sure but nobody wants a transparent, blackboard sized computer
>>> monitor like the ones depicted in films and TV.
>> 
>> Maps.  Greater London, Appalachian trail, galaxy far, far away, all
>> same.  Zoom in/zoom out on small screen dosn't make it.
> 
> Sure size is good for many things, but why on earth would you want
> the display to be transparent ? What use is the reversed display visible
> from the back and why would you want to see whatever is behind the display
> through what is being displayed.

Agreed.  I was addressing size, overlooking transparent.  Wouldn't,
none, typically wouldn't, in that order.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#214916

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2020-10-26 14:38 +0000
Message-ID<hbBlH.480045$zX4.99257@fx41.iad>
In reply to#214903
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>On 26 Oct 2020 10:10:12 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>
>>On 2020-10-26, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>>>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in 1980,
>>>
>>> 	Much the same can be said for Star Trek (the original) - the tech in
>>> that is a mixture of clunky (bridge controls) and magical (medical).
>>>
>>> 	Then again I suspect the recent fad for depicting transparent
>>> screens and hand waving interfaces will look equally silly in a decade or
>>> two for never having happened at all.
>>>
>>>
>>Where are our flying cars?
>
>Transparent screens do exist--google "head up display"--but they are

https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/11/21363861/xiaomi-oled-tv-transparent-mi-lux-china-specs-price-release

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#214923

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2020-10-26 18:05 +0000
Message-ID<rn735k01iqo@news1.newsguy.com>
In reply to#214893
On 2020-10-26, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:

> On 2020-10-26, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT)
>> Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in 1980,
>>
>> 	Much the same can be said for Star Trek (the original) - the tech in
>> that is a mixture of clunky (bridge controls) and magical (medical).
>>
>> 	Then again I suspect the recent fad for depicting transparent
>> screens and hand waving interfaces will look equally silly in a decade or
>> two for never having happened at all.

That's not to say that some people won't go to a lot of effort
trying to make it so, whether it turns out to be practical or not.
"How William Shatner Changed the World" takes a tongue-in-cheek look
at how science fiction influences design once technology catches up.

> Where are our flying cars?

"Goddamn cheap Japanese flying packs!"
  -- Woody Allen: Sleeper

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)

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#214944

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-10-26 18:08 -0400
Message-ID<a6iepf5ojt9bfhou5728kkr7eolllfo81v@4ax.com>
In reply to#214923
On 26 Oct 2020 18:05:40 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2020-10-26, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2020-10-26, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>>>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in 1980,
>>>
>>> 	Much the same can be said for Star Trek (the original) - the tech in
>>> that is a mixture of clunky (bridge controls) and magical (medical).
>>>
>>> 	Then again I suspect the recent fad for depicting transparent
>>> screens and hand waving interfaces will look equally silly in a decade or
>>> two for never having happened at all.
>
>That's not to say that some people won't go to a lot of effort
>trying to make it so, whether it turns out to be practical or not.
>"How William Shatner Changed the World" takes a tongue-in-cheek look
>at how science fiction influences design once technology catches up.
>
>> Where are our flying cars?
>
>"Goddamn cheap Japanese flying packs!"
>  -- Woody Allen: Sleeper

Shows how times change.  Japanese stuff was "cheap" and Volkswagens
were "good cars".

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#214969

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2020-10-27 06:25 +0000
Message-ID<20201027062515.5c4681155dbf3560b036163d@eircom.net>
In reply to#214944
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 18:08:47 -0400
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

> Shows how times change.  Japanese stuff was "cheap" and Volkswagens
> were "good cars".

	Not that much of a change really, now it's China for "cheap" and
Japan for "good", sooner or later China will opt for "good" too (it's
already happening) and somewhere else will get a crack at being "cheap",
probably India or Africa. The real change will come when there's nowhere
left willing to be the world's cheap industrial base.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#215104

Fromusenet@only.tnx (Questor)
Date2020-10-29 20:05 +0000
Message-ID<5f9b207a.4709501@news.dslextreme.com>
In reply to#214893
On 26 Oct 2020 10:10:12 GMT, maus <maus@dmaus.org> wrote:
>On 2020-10-26, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT)
>>Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>>>UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in 1980,
>>
>>	Much the same can be said for Star Trek (the original) - the tech in
>>that is a mixture of clunky (bridge controls) and magical (medical).
>>
>>	Then again I suspect the recent fad for depicting transparent
>>screens and hand waving interfaces will look equally silly in a decade or
>>two for never having happened at all.
>>
>Where are our flying cars?

There.  Will.  Never.  Be.  Flying.  Cars.

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#214929

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2020-10-26 19:46 +0000
Message-ID<rn7931$dj6$2@newsreader4.netcologne.de>
In reply to#214889
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> schrieb:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT)
> Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in 1980,
>
> 	Much the same can be said for Star Trek (the original) - the tech in
> that is a mixture of clunky (bridge controls) and magical (medical).

My pet peeve is "holograms".

Neither Star Treck nor Star Wars nor Gibson's Neuromancer showed
anything remotely like an actual hologram.

You cannot project a hologram somewhere and expect that whatever
you project could bend or block light.  Actual holograms have to
be line of sight, always.

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#214933

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2020-10-26 20:57 +0000
Message-ID<20201026205710.3d4d785d34f36727076ee2dd@eircom.net>
In reply to#214929
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 19:46:41 -0000 (UTC)
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote:

> You cannot project a hologram somewhere and expect that whatever
> you project could bend or block light.  Actual holograms have to
> be line of sight, always.

	Very good points, but I suspect that if anyone ever does invent
something that behaves like those ones do it will be called a hologram no
matter how it works.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#214968

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-10-27 06:26 +0000
Message-ID<slrnrpffcb.2ptb.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#214889
On Mon, 2020-10-26, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT)
> Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in 1980,
>
> 	Much the same can be said for Star Trek (the original) - the tech in
> that is a mixture of clunky (bridge controls) and magical (medical).
>
> 	Then again I suspect the recent fad for depicting transparent
> screens and hand waving interfaces will look equally silly in a decade or
> two for never having happened at all.

In a decade or two?  They look silly /now/.

They are a useful way of showing a bunch of people looking at and
discussing information, though: you can see their faces and the map
(or whatever it is) at the same time.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#214983

Fromted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
Date2020-10-27 16:07 +0000
Message-ID<hvqutuFtk7iU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#214889
In article <20201026055501.c5a412458ab12a18315a4333@eircom.net>,
Ahem A Rivet's Shot  <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT)
>Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in 1980,
>
>	Much the same can be said for Star Trek (the original) - the tech in
>that is a mixture of clunky (bridge controls) and magical (medical).
>
>	Then again I suspect the recent fad for depicting transparent
>screens and hand waving interfaces will look equally silly in a decade or
>two for never having happened at all.
>

I am always minded of this:

http://www.basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2018/7/5/how-to-compose-a-tweet
-- 
columbiaclosings.com
What's not in Columbia anymore..

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#214905

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-10-26 07:31 -0500
Message-ID<rn6fit$hcj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#214888
On 10/25/2020 6:47 PM, Douglas Miller wrote:
> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in 1980, they completely missed the microprocessor revolution. It was basically current technology for 1970. Of course, especially back then, the people who designed the sets and props were not computer savey. At least they got the fashions and automobiles correct! :-}
> 
> Suspension of disbelief, and all, so not really criticizing. But, it is remarkable how different things really were by 1980, especially for multi-national military organizations with deep pockets.
> 

It was really interesting to be there to watch the evolution of computer graphic interactive 
displays and the variety of human input devices that had their place on the stage for brief periods 
of time.

Huge track balls - cereal box sized pads of buttons - light pens - joysticks

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#215598

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2020-12-21 12:16 -0500
Message-ID<87h7ofm64i.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#214888
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Douglas Miller wrote:
>
> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in
> 1980, they completely missed the microprocessor revolution. It was
> basically current technology for 1970. Of course, especially back
> then, the people who designed the sets and props were not computer
> savey. At least they got the fashions and automobiles correct! :-}
>
> Suspension of disbelief, and all, so not really criticizing. But, it
> is remarkable how different things really were by 1980, especially for
> multi-national military organizations with deep pockets.

They had cordless phones predicted.

Interestingly they assumed that also Britain would move to driving on the
right (correct ;-) side of the road by the 1980s, but never happened.
-- 
Andreas

PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0

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#215603

FromDallas <dallas@texas.usa>
Date2020-12-21 11:35 -0600
Message-ID<rrqmdg$rb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215598
On 12/21/2020 11:16 AM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Douglas Miller wrote:
>>
>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in
>> 1980, they completely missed the microprocessor revolution. It was
>> basically current technology for 1970. Of course, especially back
>> then, the people who designed the sets and props were not computer
>> savey. At least they got the fashions and automobiles correct! :-}
>>
>> Suspension of disbelief, and all, so not really criticizing. But, it
>> is remarkable how different things really were by 1980, especially for
>> multi-national military organizations with deep pockets.
> 
> They had cordless phones predicted.
> 
> Interestingly they assumed that also Britain would move to driving on the
> right (correct ;-) side of the road by the 1980s, but never happened.
> 

I don't have the best understanding of why and when differences in defining the "right" side of the 
road came about.

Were there countries that switched sides ?



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#215607

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2020-12-21 17:54 +0000
Message-ID<i4c5qaF2kghU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#215603
Dallas wrote:

> I don't have the best understanding of why and when differences in 
> defining the "right" side of the road came about.
> 
> Were there countries that switched sides ?

search "Högertrafikomläggningen"

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#215609

Fromjtmpreno <none@znet.com>
Date2020-12-21 09:57 -0800
Message-ID<rrqnlr$17io$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#215603
On 12/21/2020 9:35 AM, Dallas wrote:
> On 12/21/2020 11:16 AM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Douglas Miller wrote:
>>>
>>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in
>>> 1980, they completely missed the microprocessor revolution. It was
>>> basically current technology for 1970. Of course, especially back
>>> then, the people who designed the sets and props were not computer
>>> savey. At least they got the fashions and automobiles correct! :-}
>>>
>>> Suspension of disbelief, and all, so not really criticizing. But, it
>>> is remarkable how different things really were by 1980, especially for
>>> multi-national military organizations with deep pockets.
>>
>> They had cordless phones predicted.
>>
>> Interestingly they assumed that also Britain would move to driving on the
>> right (correct ;-) side of the road by the 1980s, but never happened.
>>
> 
> I don't have the best understanding of why and when differences in 
> defining the "right" side of the road came about.
> 
> Were there countries that switched sides ?
> 
> 
> 
> 

Sweden in September 1967: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H

They called it "Högertrafikomläggningen" ("The right-hand traffic 
diversion")


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#215625

FromRadey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net>
Date2020-12-21 17:05 -0500
Message-ID<87wnxaolvk.fsf@mothra.home>
In reply to#215609
jtmpreno <none@znet.com> writes:

> On 12/21/2020 9:35 AM, Dallas wrote:
>> On 12/21/2020 11:16 AM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Douglas Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>>>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in
>>>> 1980, they completely missed the microprocessor revolution. It was
>>>> basically current technology for 1970. Of course, especially back
>>>> then, the people who designed the sets and props were not computer
>>>> savey. At least they got the fashions and automobiles correct! :-}
>>>>
>>>> Suspension of disbelief, and all, so not really criticizing. But, it
>>>> is remarkable how different things really were by 1980, especially for
>>>> multi-national military organizations with deep pockets.
>>>
>>> They had cordless phones predicted.
>>>
>>> Interestingly they assumed that also Britain would move to driving on the
>>> right (correct ;-) side of the road by the 1980s, but never happened.
>>>
>>
>> I don't have the best understanding of why and when differences in
>> defining the "right" side of the road came about.
>>
>> Were there countries that switched sides ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Sweden in September 1967: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H
>
> They called it "Högertrafikomläggningen" ("The right-hand traffic
> diversion")

Samoa changed from driving on the right to driving on the left in 2009.

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#215628

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2020-12-22 00:05 -0500
Message-ID<87a6u6l9bc.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#215625
On Mon, 21 Dec 2020 17:05:51 -0500, Radey Shouman wrote:
>
> jtmpreno <none@znet.com> writes:
>
>> On 12/21/2020 9:35 AM, Dallas wrote:
>>> On 12/21/2020 11:16 AM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly they assumed that also Britain would move to driving on the
>>>> right (correct ;-) side of the road by the 1980s, but never happened.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't have the best understanding of why and when differences in
>>> defining the "right" side of the road came about.
>>>
>>> Were there countries that switched sides ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Sweden in September 1967: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H
>>
>> They called it "Högertrafikomläggningen" ("The right-hand traffic
>> diversion")
>
> Samoa changed from driving on the right to driving on the left in 2009.

The Falklands switched briefly from the left to the right under Argentine
occupation.
-- 
Andreas

PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0

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#215618

Frommaus <maus@dmaus.org>
Date2020-12-21 18:41 +0000
Message-ID<slrnru1r2l.ob.maus@dmaus.org>
In reply to#215603
On 2020-12-21, Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote:
> On 12/21/2020 11:16 AM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 16:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Douglas Miller wrote:
>>>
>>> Was watching episodes of "UFO" today, and it was remarkable how
>>> UN-futuristic their computer equipment was. Filmed in 1970, set in
>>> 1980, they completely missed the microprocessor revolution. It was
>>> basically current technology for 1970. Of course, especially back
>>> then, the people who designed the sets and props were not computer
>>> savey. At least they got the fashions and automobiles correct! :-}
>>>
>>> Suspension of disbelief, and all, so not really criticizing. But, it
>>> is remarkable how different things really were by 1980, especially for
>>> multi-national military organizations with deep pockets.
>> 
>> They had cordless phones predicted.
>> 
>> Interestingly they assumed that also Britain would move to driving on the
>> right (correct ;-) side of the road by the 1980s, but never happened.
>> 
>
> I don't have the best understanding of why and when differences in defining the "right" side of the 
> road came about.
>
> Were there countries that switched sides ?
>
>>

Sweden, I think.. Many Irish country roads, the right side is the center
:)

-- 
greymausg@mail.com

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