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You can now hold a z15 in your hand

Started byPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
First post2020-12-15 12:26 -0700
Last post2020-12-15 23:23 +0000
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  You can now hold a z15 in your hand Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-15 12:26 -0700
    Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-12-15 14:39 -0500
      Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-16 02:10 -0800
        Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-12-16 07:57 -0500
          Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-16 05:18 -0800
            Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-12-16 14:52 +0000
              Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-12-16 16:53 +0000
            Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-12-16 20:16 +0000
        Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-16 07:19 -0700
          Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-12-16 15:08 +0000
            Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-12-16 16:55 +0000
              Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-12-16 20:25 +0000
                Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-12-16 21:21 +0000
            Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-12-16 18:38 +0000
    Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-12-15 23:23 +0000

#215499 — You can now hold a z15 in your hand

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2020-12-15 12:26 -0700
SubjectYou can now hold a z15 in your hand
Message-ID<588403271.629753148.034031.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
https://twitter.com/ibm/status/1338876387034341380?s=21


-- 
Pete

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#215500

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2020-12-15 14:39 -0500
Message-ID<rrb3dp$qic$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#215499
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:

> https://twitter.com/ibm/status/1338876387034341380?s=21

I think Twitter is putting us on.
Follow the links to IBM, the single frame model is 15" wide.  Looks like height
is 3 or 4 times the width.  I guess I could pick it up, but it would be
pretty heavy.  Not something to hold in one hand.

I got as far as finding the PDF for the hardware but IBM wanted to know
who I was to download the PDF.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#215503

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2020-12-16 02:10 -0800
Message-ID<d598f3d0-9dae-4093-8555-e3d7e6a855c1n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#215500
On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 12:39:39 PM UTC-7, Dan Espen wrote:

> I think Twitter is putting us on. 

The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made himself
a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out small plastic models of
the Z15.

John Savard

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#215504

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2020-12-16 07:57 -0500
Message-ID<rv0ktfhrenl7vuu8mo26mdi4nf6hsjdgb5@4ax.com>
In reply to#215503
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 12:39:39 PM UTC-7, Dan Espen wrote:
>
>> I think Twitter is putting us on. 
>
>The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made himself
>a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out small plastic models of
>the Z15.

OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent of
a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have
something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of
connectors inherent in the tiny package.

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#215505

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2020-12-16 05:18 -0800
Message-ID<967b56dc-4b74-4542-a54d-f87f99afbff3n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#215504
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 5:57:52 AM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc 
> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: 

> >The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made himself 
> >a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out small plastic models of 
> >the Z15.

> OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent of 
> a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have 
> something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of 
> connectors inherent in the tiny package.

Oh, of course.

As an example of the sort of present-day thing that no doubt inspired your remark...

http://obsolescenceguaranteed.blogspot.com/2020/02/inevitaby-pidp-10.html

John Savard

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#215508

FromBob Eager <news0073@eager.cx>
Date2020-12-16 14:52 +0000
Message-ID<i3ul99Fa62tU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#215505
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:18:19 -0800, Quadibloc wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 5:57:52 AM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
>> wrote:
> 
>> >The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made
>> >himself a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out
>> >small plastic models of the Z15.
> 
>> OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent of
>> a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have
>> something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of
>> connectors inherent in the tiny package.
> 
> Oh, of course.
> 
> As an example of the sort of present-day thing that no doubt inspired
> your remark...
> 
> http://obsolescenceguaranteed.blogspot.com/2020/02/inevitaby-
pidp-10.html

Yes, I am already waiting for that. Already have the PiDP-8 and PiDP-10, 
and working on a couple of my own.

-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
 http://www.mirrorservice.org

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#215511

FromBob Eager <news0073@eager.cx>
Date2020-12-16 16:53 +0000
Message-ID<i3usd6Fa62tU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#215508
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:52:25 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:18:19 -0800, Quadibloc wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 5:57:52 AM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca>
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> >The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who
>>> >made himself a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving
>>> >out small plastic models of the Z15.
>> 
>>> OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent of
>>> a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have
>>> something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of
>>> connectors inherent in the tiny package.
>> 
>> Oh, of course.
>> 
>> As an example of the sort of present-day thing that no doubt inspired
>> your remark...
>> 
>> http://obsolescenceguaranteed.blogspot.com/2020/02/inevitaby-
> pidp-10.html
> 
> Yes, I am already waiting for that. Already have the PiDP-8 and PiDP-10,
> and working on a couple of my own.

Oops. The second one should be PiDP-11, of course.



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#215516

From"Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1>
Date2020-12-16 20:16 +0000
Message-ID<XnsAC95CE4F33D8Eadmin127001@144.76.35.252>
In reply to#215505
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:18:19 GMT, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 5:57:52 AM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc 
>> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: 
> 
>> >The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who
>> >made himself a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving
>> >out small plastic models of the Z15.
> 
>> OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent
>> of a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have 
>> something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of 
>> connectors inherent in the tiny package.
> 
> Oh, of course.
> 
> As an example of the sort of present-day thing that no doubt inspired
> your remark... 
> 
> http://obsolescenceguaranteed.blogspot.com/2020/02/inevitaby-pidp-10.ht
> ml 
> 
> John Savard


Oh dear, 11th March last update.

-- 
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#215506

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2020-12-16 07:19 -0700
Message-ID<1725279172.629820819.217223.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#215503
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 12:39:39 PM UTC-7, Dan Espen wrote:
> 
>> I think Twitter is putting us on. 
> 
> The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made himself
> a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out small plastic models of
> the Z15.
> 

Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been interpreted two
ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model maker could sell them so
we could stick RPis in them.
  

-- 
Pete

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#215509

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2020-12-16 15:08 +0000
Message-ID<20201216150833.613034e39bca43fc396e1728@eircom.net>
In reply to#215506
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:12 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been interpreted two
> ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model maker could sell them so
> we could stick RPis in them.

	Hmm build a working table top model of a large 1970s mainframe
installation with a Pi in the CPU box with an LCD to show the blinkenlights,
micro SD slots in the tape drives (and either a display or tiny tape reels)
and disc cabinets, a cash register print mechanism in tiny 1403 cases ...

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#215512

FromBob Eager <news0073@eager.cx>
Date2020-12-16 16:55 +0000
Message-ID<i3usfaFa62tU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#215509
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:08:33 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:12 -0700 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been interpreted
>> two ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model maker could sell
>> them so we could stick RPis in them.
> 
> 	Hmm build a working table top model of a large 1970s mainframe
> installation with a Pi in the CPU box with an LCD to show the
> blinkenlights,
> micro SD slots in the tape drives (and either a display or tiny tape
> reels) and disc cabinets, a cash register print mechanism in tiny 1403
> cases ...

 https://www.chrisfenton.com/homebrew-cray-1a/

-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
 http://www.mirrorservice.org

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#215517

From"Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1>
Date2020-12-16 20:25 +0000
Message-ID<XnsAC95CFC0F6DEAadmin127001@144.76.35.252>
In reply to#215512
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:55:06 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:08:33 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:12 -0700 Peter Flass
>> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been
>>> interpreted two ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model
>>> maker could sell them so we could stick RPis in them.
>> 
>>      Hmm build a working table top model of a large 1970s mainframe
>> installation with a Pi in the CPU box with an LCD to show the
>> blinkenlights,
>> micro SD slots in the tape drives (and either a display or tiny tape
>> reels) and disc cabinets, a cash register print mechanism in tiny
>> 1403 cases ...
> 
>  https://www.chrisfenton.com/homebrew-cray-1a/
> 
http://www.chrisfenton.com/cray-1-digital-archeology/

Wow!

-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.

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#215518

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2020-12-16 21:21 +0000
Message-ID<20201216212113.4d4c9b7e4972650c603f02a1@eircom.net>
In reply to#215517
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 20:25:19 -0000 (UTC)
"Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:55:06 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote:
> 
> >  https://www.chrisfenton.com/homebrew-cray-1a/
> > 
> http://www.chrisfenton.com/cray-1-digital-archeology/
> 
> Wow!

Seconded!

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#215515

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2020-12-16 18:38 +0000
Message-ID<rrdk760273c@news1.newsguy.com>
In reply to#215509
On 2020-12-16, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:12 -0700
> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been interpreted two
>> ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model maker could sell them so
>> we could stick RPis in them.
>
> 	Hmm build a working table top model of a large 1970s mainframe
> installation with a Pi in the CPU box with an LCD to show the blinkenlights,
> micro SD slots in the tape drives (and either a display or tiny tape reels)
> and disc cabinets, a cash register print mechanism in tiny 1403 cases ...

And sound effects - don't forget the noises each device made so that you
can tell from the next room whether your program was running properly...

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  "Some of you may die,
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  but it's a sacrifice
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  I'm willing to make."
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)

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#215501

FromJohn Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date2020-12-15 23:23 +0000
Message-ID<rrbghk$e0v$2@gal.iecc.com>
In reply to#215499
In article <588403271.629753148.034031.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> you write:
>https://twitter.com/ibm/status/1338876387034341380?s=21

Somehow, I am reminded of an old joke.

A Texan rancher visits a farm in Israel.

Texan: how big is your spread?

Farmer: it runs over to that row of trees there, and that hill over there.

Texan: at my place, I can get in my car and drive from sunup to sundown and not
get to the end of my property.

Farmer: yeah, I had a car like that, too.

-- 
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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