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| Started by | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2020-12-15 12:26 -0700 |
| Last post | 2020-12-15 23:23 +0000 |
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You can now hold a z15 in your hand Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-15 12:26 -0700
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-12-15 14:39 -0500
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-16 02:10 -0800
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-12-16 07:57 -0500
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-12-16 05:18 -0800
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-12-16 14:52 +0000
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-12-16 16:53 +0000
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-12-16 20:16 +0000
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-16 07:19 -0700
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-12-16 15:08 +0000
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-12-16 16:55 +0000
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-12-16 20:25 +0000
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-12-16 21:21 +0000
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-12-16 18:38 +0000
Re: You can now hold a z15 in your hand John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-12-15 23:23 +0000
| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-12-15 12:26 -0700 |
| Subject | You can now hold a z15 in your hand |
| Message-ID | <588403271.629753148.034031.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
https://twitter.com/ibm/status/1338876387034341380?s=21 -- Pete
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-12-15 14:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rrb3dp$qic$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #215499 |
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes: > https://twitter.com/ibm/status/1338876387034341380?s=21 I think Twitter is putting us on. Follow the links to IBM, the single frame model is 15" wide. Looks like height is 3 or 4 times the width. I guess I could pick it up, but it would be pretty heavy. Not something to hold in one hand. I got as far as finding the PDF for the hardware but IBM wanted to know who I was to download the PDF. -- Dan Espen
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 02:10 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <d598f3d0-9dae-4093-8555-e3d7e6a855c1n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #215500 |
On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 12:39:39 PM UTC-7, Dan Espen wrote: > I think Twitter is putting us on. The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made himself a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out small plastic models of the Z15. John Savard
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 07:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rv0ktfhrenl7vuu8mo26mdi4nf6hsjdgb5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215503 |
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: >On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 12:39:39 PM UTC-7, Dan Espen wrote: > >> I think Twitter is putting us on. > >The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made himself >a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out small plastic models of >the Z15. OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent of a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of connectors inherent in the tiny package.
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 05:18 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <967b56dc-4b74-4542-a54d-f87f99afbff3n@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #215504 |
On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 5:57:52 AM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote: > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc > <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: > >The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made himself > >a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out small plastic models of > >the Z15. > OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent of > a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have > something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of > connectors inherent in the tiny package. Oh, of course. As an example of the sort of present-day thing that no doubt inspired your remark... http://obsolescenceguaranteed.blogspot.com/2020/02/inevitaby-pidp-10.html John Savard
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 14:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i3ul99Fa62tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215505 |
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:18:19 -0800, Quadibloc wrote: > On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 5:57:52 AM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote: >> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> >> wrote: > >> >The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made >> >himself a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out >> >small plastic models of the Z15. > >> OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent of >> a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have >> something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of >> connectors inherent in the tiny package. > > Oh, of course. > > As an example of the sort of present-day thing that no doubt inspired > your remark... > > http://obsolescenceguaranteed.blogspot.com/2020/02/inevitaby- pidp-10.html Yes, I am already waiting for that. Already have the PiDP-8 and PiDP-10, and working on a couple of my own. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 16:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i3usd6Fa62tU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215508 |
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 14:52:25 +0000, Bob Eager wrote: > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 05:18:19 -0800, Quadibloc wrote: > >> On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 5:57:52 AM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> >>> wrote: >> >>> >The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who >>> >made himself a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving >>> >out small plastic models of the Z15. >> >>> OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent of >>> a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have >>> something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of >>> connectors inherent in the tiny package. >> >> Oh, of course. >> >> As an example of the sort of present-day thing that no doubt inspired >> your remark... >> >> http://obsolescenceguaranteed.blogspot.com/2020/02/inevitaby- > pidp-10.html > > Yes, I am already waiting for that. Already have the PiDP-8 and PiDP-10, > and working on a couple of my own. Oops. The second one should be PiDP-11, of course. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 20:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsAC95CE4F33D8Eadmin127001@144.76.35.252> |
| In reply to | #215505 |
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:18:19 GMT, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: > On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 5:57:52 AM UTC-7, J. Clarke wrote: >> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 02:10:05 -0800 (PST), Quadibloc >> <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: > >> >The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who >> >made himself a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving >> >out small plastic models of the Z15. > >> OTOH, 50 years down the road somebody might put the then-equivalent >> of a Raspberry Pi in the model, load it up with Hercules, and have >> something that can do anything the Z15 can do subject to the lack of >> connectors inherent in the tiny package. > > Oh, of course. > > As an example of the sort of present-day thing that no doubt inspired > your remark... > > http://obsolescenceguaranteed.blogspot.com/2020/02/inevitaby-pidp-10.ht > ml > > John Savard Oh dear, 11th March last update. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 07:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1725279172.629820819.217223.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #215503 |
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: > On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 12:39:39 PM UTC-7, Dan Espen wrote: > >> I think Twitter is putting us on. > > The tweet, mentioning IBM's Z15 brochure, is by an individual who made himself > a 3D-printed model of a Z15. IBM is indeed not giving out small plastic models of > the Z15. > Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been interpreted two ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model maker could sell them so we could stick RPis in them. -- Pete
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 15:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20201216150833.613034e39bca43fc396e1728@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #215506 |
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:12 -0700 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: > Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been interpreted two > ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model maker could sell them so > we could stick RPis in them. Hmm build a working table top model of a large 1970s mainframe installation with a Pi in the CPU box with an LCD to show the blinkenlights, micro SD slots in the tape drives (and either a display or tiny tape reels) and disc cabinets, a cash register print mechanism in tiny 1403 cases ... -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 16:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i3usfaFa62tU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215509 |
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:08:33 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:12 -0700 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been interpreted >> two ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model maker could sell >> them so we could stick RPis in them. > > Hmm build a working table top model of a large 1970s mainframe > installation with a Pi in the CPU box with an LCD to show the > blinkenlights, > micro SD slots in the tape drives (and either a display or tiny tape > reels) and disc cabinets, a cash register print mechanism in tiny 1403 > cases ... https://www.chrisfenton.com/homebrew-cray-1a/ -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 20:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsAC95CFC0F6DEAadmin127001@144.76.35.252> |
| In reply to | #215512 |
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:55:06 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:08:33 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > >> On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:12 -0700 Peter Flass >> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been >>> interpreted two ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model >>> maker could sell them so we could stick RPis in them. >> >> Hmm build a working table top model of a large 1970s mainframe >> installation with a Pi in the CPU box with an LCD to show the >> blinkenlights, >> micro SD slots in the tape drives (and either a display or tiny tape >> reels) and disc cabinets, a cash register print mechanism in tiny >> 1403 cases ... > > https://www.chrisfenton.com/homebrew-cray-1a/ > http://www.chrisfenton.com/cray-1-digital-archeology/ Wow! -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 21:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20201216212113.4d4c9b7e4972650c603f02a1@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #215517 |
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 20:25:19 -0000 (UTC) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 16:55:06 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: > > > https://www.chrisfenton.com/homebrew-cray-1a/ > > > http://www.chrisfenton.com/cray-1-digital-archeology/ > > Wow! Seconded! -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-12-16 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rrdk760273c@news1.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #215509 |
On 2020-12-16, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 07:19:12 -0700 > Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Right. I re-read the ad? The word ”model” could have been interpreted two >> ways, and I picked the wrong one. Maybe the model maker could sell them so >> we could stick RPis in them. > > Hmm build a working table top model of a large 1970s mainframe > installation with a Pi in the CPU box with an LCD to show the blinkenlights, > micro SD slots in the tape drives (and either a display or tiny tape reels) > and disc cabinets, a cash register print mechanism in tiny 1403 cases ... And sound effects - don't forget the noises each device made so that you can tell from the next room whether your program was running properly... -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | "Some of you may die, \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | but it's a sacrifice X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | I'm willing to make." / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2020-12-15 23:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rrbghk$e0v$2@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #215499 |
In article <588403271.629753148.034031.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> you write: >https://twitter.com/ibm/status/1338876387034341380?s=21 Somehow, I am reminded of an old joke. A Texan rancher visits a farm in Israel. Texan: how big is your spread? Farmer: it runs over to that row of trees there, and that hill over there. Texan: at my place, I can get in my car and drive from sunup to sundown and not get to the end of my property. Farmer: yeah, I had a car like that, too. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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