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| Started by | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| First post | 2020-11-13 18:10 -0600 |
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line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-13 18:10 -0600
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-14 09:49 +0000
Re: line editors Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2020-11-15 00:39 +0000
Re: line editors Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2020-11-15 01:32 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-15 08:54 +0000
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 06:35 -0700
Re: line editors Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-16 14:33 +0000
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 11:52 -0700
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-16 11:45 -0500
Re: line editors "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-17 18:25 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-14 12:53 +0100
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 09:52 -0600
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-14 20:09 +0100
Re: line editors JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-15 13:59 -0600
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-15 20:55 +0000
Re: line editors JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-16 12:49 -0600
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 11:53 -0700
Re: line editors JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-16 17:40 -0600
Re: line editors "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-17 18:35 +0000
Re: line editors Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-17 18:42 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-17 21:04 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-17 23:28 +0100
Re: line editors Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-11-18 15:51 +0200
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-18 14:32 +0000
Re: line editors "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-23 11:35 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-17 22:07 +0100
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-17 19:43 +0100
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-17 20:14 +0000
Re: line editors maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-18 08:44 +0000
Re: line editors Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-12-21 12:24 -0500
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-17 21:04 +0000
Re: line editors Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-12-21 12:28 -0500
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-21 16:00 -0700
Re: line editors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-14 21:03 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 15:15 -0600
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-14 21:33 +0000
Re: line editors songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2020-11-14 08:02 -0500
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-14 14:51 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-14 15:30 +0000
Re: line editors Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 12:34 -0500
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 12:28 -0600
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-14 18:36 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 13:39 -0600
Re: line editors Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-15 10:07 +0000
Re: line editors Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-11-15 14:30 +0000
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-15 15:58 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-15 17:35 +0000
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-15 18:32 +0000
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-15 20:46 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-14 21:06 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 15:20 -0600
Re: line editors Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-14 09:57 -0600
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-14 17:48 +0000
Re:line editors Sarr Blumson <sarr.blumson@alum.dartmouth.org> - 2020-11-14 22:03 -0500
Re: line editors Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-11-16 19:06 +0200
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-16 11:26 -0600
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-16 20:38 +0100
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-16 14:38 -0600
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 14:13 -0700
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-16 22:33 +0100
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 14:13 -0700
Re: line editors Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-16 21:24 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-16 21:40 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-16 21:45 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-16 22:38 +0100
Re: line editors Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-11-16 23:46 +0200
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-16 23:20 +0100
Re: line editors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-17 00:18 +0000
Re: line editors "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-17 18:29 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-17 19:42 +0100
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-17 14:23 -0700
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-17 21:42 +0000
Re: line editors Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-17 17:32 -0500
Re: line editors drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-11-17 21:29 -0600
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-17 23:19 -0500
Re: line editors Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-18 04:01 -0600
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 04:57 -0600
Re: line editors Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-18 09:15 -0600
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 12:51 -0500
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 12:00 -0600
Re: line editors Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-18 18:14 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 15:41 -0600
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 12:05 -0600
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 16:27 -0500
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 15:45 -0600
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 17:46 -0500
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 20:20 -0600
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 08:16 -0500
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-18 07:31 -0700
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 12:40 -0500
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-18 22:06 +0000
Re: line editors Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-20 21:33 +0100
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-20 18:09 -0500
Re: line editors Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-21 18:27 +0000
Re: line editors Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-21 15:06 -0500
Re: line editors Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-22 09:09 +0000
Re: line editors Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-22 10:02 +0000
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-21 18:52 +0000
Re: line editors Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-11-18 12:19 -0800
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 04:54 -0600
Re: line editors Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-11-19 16:34 +0100
Re: line editors Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-17 18:32 +0000
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-17 18:40 +0000
Re: line editors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-17 19:44 +0000
Re: line editors Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-11-19 16:45 +0100
Re: line editors Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-17 14:11 -0600
Re: line editors Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2020-11-17 21:20 +0000
Re: line editors Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-19 21:41 +0100
Re: line editors Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-11-20 06:53 +0000
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-20 07:50 +0000
Re: line editors Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-20 08:07 +0000
Re: line editors Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-30 20:52 +0100
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-20 09:07 +0000
Re: line editors Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-11-23 08:59 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-23 10:09 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-23 08:07 -0600
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-23 08:11 -0600
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-23 15:28 +0000
Re: line editors drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-11-23 14:58 -0600
Re: line editors Richard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2020-11-23 18:21 -0500
Re: line editors drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-11-23 20:15 -0600
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-24 11:01 -0700
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-24 18:54 +0000
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-23 09:02 -0500
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-23 15:26 +0000
Re: line editors Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-30 20:47 +0100
Re: line editors maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-20 17:47 +0000
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| From | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| Date | 2020-11-13 18:10 -0600 |
| Subject | line editors |
| Message-ID | <ron7a8$kq7$1@dont-email.me> |
I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, especially EDLIN and ed There was a line editor on the CDC 6600 at UT Austin that I used via a TTY, in the early 1970's but I forget what it was called.
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 09:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i19ni0Fh280U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215237 |
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:10:47 -0600, Dallas wrote: > I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor > > and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, > especially EDLIN and ed > > There was a line editor on the CDC 6600 at UT Austin that I used via a > TTY, in the early 1970's but I forget what it was called. I have to add CHEF, which I used for years (and am still using on one system). It's ed-like, but with an optional one character qualifier to many commands, a built in help system, and generally more user friendly. It also adds stuff that ed lacks. Works in pretty low memory conditions - I did a CP/M version. https://www.bobeager.uk/miscellaneous.html#CHEF -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-11-15 00:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.2560B045011FBA2D7000034A738F@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215244 |
On 14 Nov 2020, Bob Eager wrote (in article <i19ni0Fh280U6@mid.individual.net>): > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:10:47 -0600, Dallas wrote: > > > I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? > title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor > > > > and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, > > especially EDLIN and ed > > > > There was a line editor on the CDC 6600 at UT Austin that I used via a > > TTY, in the early 1970's but I forget what it was called. > > I have to add CHEF, which I used for years (and am still using on one > system). It's ed-like, but with an optional one character qualifier to > many commands, a built in help system, and generally more user friendly. > It also adds stuff that ed lacks. Works in pretty low memory conditions - > I did a CP/M version. > > https://www.bobeager.uk/miscellaneous.html#CHEF No vote for ECCE? That was what I used when working on the 200 Pascal compiler. -- Bill Findlay
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| From | Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-11-15 01:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.2560BCA101229FB97000034A738F@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215277 |
On 15 Nov 2020, Bill Findlay wrote (in article<0001HW.2560B045011FBA2D7000034A738F@news.individual.net>): > No vote for ECCE? > That was what I used when working on the 200 Pascal compiler. 2900, of course -- Bill Findlay
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-11-15 08:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i1c8msFh280U10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215277 |
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:39:33 +0000, Bill Findlay wrote: > On 14 Nov 2020, Bob Eager wrote (in article > <i19ni0Fh280U6@mid.individual.net>): > >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:10:47 -0600, Dallas wrote: >> >> > I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >> > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? >> title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >> > >> > and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >> > especially EDLIN and ed >> > >> > There was a line editor on the CDC 6600 at UT Austin that I used via >> > a TTY, in the early 1970's but I forget what it was called. >> >> I have to add CHEF, which I used for years (and am still using on one >> system). It's ed-like, but with an optional one character qualifier to >> many commands, a built in help system, and generally more user >> friendly. It also adds stuff that ed lacks. Works in pretty low memory >> conditions - >> I did a CP/M version. >> >> https://www.bobeager.uk/miscellaneous.html#CHEF > > No vote for ECCE? > That was what I used when working on the 200 Pascal compiler. I forgot about ECCE (I hadn't used it as much). I do maintain the port on FreeBSD! -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-16 06:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <978718531.627226043.148027.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #215277 |
Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > On 14 Nov 2020, Bob Eager wrote > (in article <i19ni0Fh280U6@mid.individual.net>): > >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:10:47 -0600, Dallas wrote: >> >>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? >> title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >>> >>> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >>> especially EDLIN and ed >>> >>> There was a line editor on the CDC 6600 at UT Austin that I used via a >>> TTY, in the early 1970's but I forget what it was called. >> >> I have to add CHEF, which I used for years (and am still using on one >> system). It's ed-like, but with an optional one character qualifier to >> many commands, a built in help system, and generally more user friendly. >> It also adds stuff that ed lacks. Works in pretty low memory conditions - >> I did a CP/M version. >> >> https://www.bobeager.uk/miscellaneous.html#CHEF > > No vote for ECCE? > That was what I used when working on the 200 Pascal compiler. > TSO EDIT anyone? I also occasionally used whatever CMS had, but by that time we had 3270s and XEDIT. -- Pete
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2020-11-16 14:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rou2ka$hlu$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #215302 |
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> schrieb: > TSO EDIT anyone? I used that, but only until I discovered the ISPF editor.
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-16 11:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1388389156.627245372.892636.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #215303 |
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> wrote: > Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> schrieb: > >> TSO EDIT anyone? > > I used that, but only until I discovered the ISPF editor. > Originally all our 3270s were dedicated to CICS. I used the stupid editor on TTY. We finally got ISPF, which is still my favorite editor/IDE. -- Pete
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-16 11:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <p2b5rfthj70nr1cqrqfj5kiefn2qridr8v@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215302 |
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 06:35:48 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> On 14 Nov 2020, Bob Eager wrote >> (in article <i19ni0Fh280U6@mid.individual.net>): >> >>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:10:47 -0600, Dallas wrote: >>> >>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? >>> title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >>>> >>>> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>>> >>>> There was a line editor on the CDC 6600 at UT Austin that I used via a >>>> TTY, in the early 1970's but I forget what it was called. >>> >>> I have to add CHEF, which I used for years (and am still using on one >>> system). It's ed-like, but with an optional one character qualifier to >>> many commands, a built in help system, and generally more user friendly. >>> It also adds stuff that ed lacks. Works in pretty low memory conditions - >>> I did a CP/M version. >>> >>> https://www.bobeager.uk/miscellaneous.html#CHEF >> >> No vote for ECCE? >> That was what I used when working on the 200 Pascal compiler. >> > >TSO EDIT anyone? I also occasionally used whatever CMS had, but by that >time we had 3270s and XEDIT. I don't recall what the name of the poor thing was but there was one that I used on the 360 at U of F via 2471. APL also had its own line editor built into the system.
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2020-11-17 18:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsAC78BB6127223admin127001@144.76.35.198> |
| In reply to | #215302 |
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 13:35:48 GMT, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: > Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> On 14 Nov 2020, Bob Eager wrote >> (in article <i19ni0Fh280U6@mid.individual.net>): >> >>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:10:47 -0600, Dallas wrote: >>> >>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? >>> title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >>>> >>>> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>>> >>>> There was a line editor on the CDC 6600 at UT Austin that I used >>>> via a TTY, in the early 1970's but I forget what it was called. >>> >>> I have to add CHEF, which I used for years (and am still using on >>> one system). It's ed-like, but with an optional one character >>> qualifier to many commands, a built in help system, and generally >>> more user friendly. It also adds stuff that ed lacks. Works in >>> pretty low memory conditions - I did a CP/M version. >>> >>> https://www.bobeager.uk/miscellaneous.html#CHEF >> >> No vote for ECCE? >> That was what I used when working on the 200 Pascal compiler. >> > > TSO EDIT anyone? I also occasionally used whatever CMS had, but by > that time we had 3270s and XEDIT. > SPFEDIT was my second fullscreen editor; I used TSO EDIT before that. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 12:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <13t48h-0r2.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #215237 |
On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: > I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor > > and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, > especially EDLIN and ed Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit autoexec.bat or config.sys. > > There was a line editor on the CDC 6600 at UT Austin that I used via a > TTY, in the early 1970's but I forget what it was called. > -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 09:52 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <rooug7$8hi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #215245 |
On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, especially EDLIN and ed > > Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit autoexec.bat or config.sys. > > That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination made a sort of TTY interface?
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 20:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <skm58h-n7d.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #215253 |
On 14/11/2020 16.52, Dallas wrote: > On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >>> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >>> especially EDLIN and ed >> >> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >> >> > > That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination made a > sort of TTY interface? Yep. There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the printer, which I first had to type blind. I don't remember which one it was. I had an older computer where I could look it up, or perhaps I even had a paper manual. The purpose of it all was to run a driver on the broken computer that would allow it to be controlled via serial port from the older computer. I had to add the correct entry and options to the config.sys or autoexec. Some software from the old PC-Tools. And thus wait till I found out if I could repair that monitor or get a new one. No one would repair it (no spares for that brand), so I had to buy another. So indeed a line editor turned out useful, could do something that no other editor could :-D -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-15 13:59 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <l123rfhi1f2hsj4rhj1dfi82b0bbvbl4m2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215263 |
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:09:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >On 14/11/2020 16.52, Dallas wrote: >> On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >>>> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>> >>> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >>> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >>> >>> >> >> That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination made a >> sort of TTY interface? > >Yep. > >There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >printer, which I first had to type blind. I don't remember which one it >was. I had an older computer where I could look it up, or perhaps I even >had a paper manual. The Dummies books series printed a MS-DOS commands one. I think it was smaller, more like 5 inches by 8 inches, than 8 inches by 11 inches. I have one somewhere, but no idea where in my storage shed. -- Jim
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-11-15 20:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i1diuoFh280U13@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215293 |
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 13:59:14 -0600, JimP wrote: > On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:09:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R." > <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>On 14/11/2020 16.52, Dallas wrote: >>> On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor and it brought back to my >>>>> mind my many days of using some of them, >>>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>>> >>>> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >>>> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination made >>> a sort of TTY interface? >> >>Yep. >> >>There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>printer, which I first had to type blind. I don't remember which one it >>was. I had an older computer where I could look it up, or perhaps I even >>had a paper manual. > > The Dummies books series printed a MS-DOS commands one. I think it was > smaller, more like 5 inches by 8 inches, than 8 inches by 11 inches. > > I have one somewhere, but no idea where in my storage shed. I have a 1984 book on PC-DOS, in several languages (including Japanese). But then I wrote it. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-16 12:49 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <hci5rfdsao7mg9i7jbsakfs9oc0tdhl5gu@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215297 |
On 15 Nov 2020 20:55:52 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 13:59:14 -0600, JimP wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:09:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R." >> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>On 14/11/2020 16.52, Dallas wrote: >>>> On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>>>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? >title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor and it brought back to my >>>>>> mind my many days of using some of them, >>>>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>>>> >>>>> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >>>>> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination made >>>> a sort of TTY interface? >>> >>>Yep. >>> >>>There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>>printer, which I first had to type blind. I don't remember which one it >>>was. I had an older computer where I could look it up, or perhaps I even >>>had a paper manual. >> >> The Dummies books series printed a MS-DOS commands one. I think it was >> smaller, more like 5 inches by 8 inches, than 8 inches by 11 inches. >> >> I have one somewhere, but no idea where in my storage shed. > >I have a 1984 book on PC-DOS, in several languages (including Japanese). > >But then I wrote it. Sounds good, but I only know 3 or 4 words in Nihongo. I think I got that correct, probably not. -- Jim
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-16 11:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <99236590.627245569.515248.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #215307 |
JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: > On 15 Nov 2020 20:55:52 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >> On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 13:59:14 -0600, JimP wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:09:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R." >>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 14/11/2020 16.52, Dallas wrote: >>>>> On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>>>>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? >> title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor and it brought back to my >>>>>>> mind my many days of using some of them, >>>>>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>>>>> >>>>>> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >>>>>> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination made >>>>> a sort of TTY interface? >>>> >>>> Yep. >>>> >>>> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>>> printer, which I first had to type blind. I don't remember which one it >>>> was. I had an older computer where I could look it up, or perhaps I even >>>> had a paper manual. >>> >>> The Dummies books series printed a MS-DOS commands one. I think it was >>> smaller, more like 5 inches by 8 inches, than 8 inches by 11 inches. >>> >>> I have one somewhere, but no idea where in my storage shed. >> >> I have a 1984 book on PC-DOS, in several languages (including Japanese). >> >> But then I wrote it. > > Sounds good, but I only know 3 or 4 words in Nihongo. I think I got > that correct, probably not. > Sayonara -- Pete
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-16 17:40 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <kd36rfh50evhe337rnip3il6g5q77goqbe@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #215309 |
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 11:53:55 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 15 Nov 2020 20:55:52 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 13:59:14 -0600, JimP wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:09:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R." >>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On 14/11/2020 16.52, Dallas wrote: >>>>>> On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>>> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>>>>>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? >>> title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor and it brought back to my >>>>>>>> mind my many days of using some of them, >>>>>>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >>>>>>> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination made >>>>>> a sort of TTY interface? >>>>> >>>>> Yep. >>>>> >>>>> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>>>> printer, which I first had to type blind. I don't remember which one it >>>>> was. I had an older computer where I could look it up, or perhaps I even >>>>> had a paper manual. >>>> >>>> The Dummies books series printed a MS-DOS commands one. I think it was >>>> smaller, more like 5 inches by 8 inches, than 8 inches by 11 inches. >>>> >>>> I have one somewhere, but no idea where in my storage shed. >>> >>> I have a 1984 book on PC-DOS, in several languages (including Japanese). >>> >>> But then I wrote it. >> >> Sounds good, but I only know 3 or 4 words in Nihongo. I think I got >> that correct, probably not. >> > >Sayonara Yupm, good-bye, and good afternoon are about it for me. Konichiwa. Again, I'm unsure of the romanji for that. Four words. No pun intended. -- Jim
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2020-11-17 18:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsAC78BD25D949admin127001@144.76.35.198> |
| In reply to | #215293 |
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 19:59:14 GMT, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:09:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R." > <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>On 14/11/2020 16.52, Dallas wrote: >>> On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&old >>>>> id=973653121#Line_editors >>>>> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >>>>> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >>>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>>> >>>> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >>>> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination >>> made a sort of TTY interface? >> >>Yep. >> >>There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>printer, which I first had to type blind. I don't remember which one >>it was. I had an older computer where I could look it up, or perhaps I >>even had a paper manual. Something about copy con prn ? > > The Dummies books series printed a MS-DOS commands one. I think it was > smaller, more like 5 inches by 8 inches, than 8 inches by 11 inches. > > I have one somewhere, but no idea where in my storage shed. > -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-11-17 18:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i1ijstF89c4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215327 |
Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: > Carlos wrote: > >> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >> printer, > > Something about > copy con prn > > ? mode lpt1:=con: maybe?
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