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| Started by | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2020-09-07 13:01 +0100 |
| Last post | 2020-09-07 12:44 +0000 |
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Not Invented Here; no longer realistic in this day and age? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-07 13:01 +0100
Re: Not Invented Here; no longer realistic in this day and age? Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-07 12:44 +0000
| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-07 13:01 +0100 |
| Subject | Not Invented Here; no longer realistic in this day and age? |
| Message-ID | <rj57eh$bun$1@dont-email.me> |
Discussed recently that my earliest exposure (Summer of 1971 in an undergrad internship) was on a naked PDP11 with no OS. That starting position is where I'm at, and have been now for nearly 50 years, in that I feel comfortable with full and in-depth knowledge of all software running in any computer. That state of play makes one very efficient in resolving bugs because one can drill down to the deepest depths to understand what has gone wrong. This was even true with the RSX11-M OS, having been on the System Programmer's Course (The Butts Centre, Reading, UK in 1978) where the full internals of the OS were revealed. That state of play lasted until 1996 when working on an embedded 80186 in a PABX. I suspect that it is no longer feasible to have that background in a computer system of today, resulting in an unease about the efficacy of any software (especially with W10, QV :-) ) In fact, 13 years ago, in a contract in the automotive world, I encountered resistance to my wish to ensure the safety of the changes that I proposed because when I sought to trace the effect of the changes into other part of the system, I was denied access to the source code of object models that had already been signed off. (ISTR that the Object systen in use was one by Rational)
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-09-07 12:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hrmo94Fqul2U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #213870 |
On Mon, 07 Sep 2020 13:01:18 +0100, gareth evans wrote: > This was even true with the RSX11-M OS, having been on the System > Programmer's Course (The Butts Centre, Reading, UK in 1978) where the > full internals of the OS were revealed. Later on, they moved to Shire Hall, which had very convenient access from the M4. I think I did just about every VAX course they had, including VMS Internals Levels 1, 2 and 3, and the Device Drivers one. They were great fun. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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