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| Started by | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| First post | 2020-09-06 16:28 +0100 |
| Last post | 2020-09-08 12:22 -0700 |
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Computer books gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-06 16:28 +0100
Re: Computer books Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-06 22:46 +0000
Re: Computer books Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-06 16:05 -0700
Re: Computer books hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-08 11:17 -0700
Re: Computer books John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-09-08 18:59 +0000
Re: Computer books hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-09-08 12:22 -0700
| From | gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 16:28 +0100 |
| Subject | Computer books |
| Message-ID | <rj2v67$dn5$4@dont-email.me> |
After being made aware of them here, I have ordered the Abstracting book about Fortran, and the Computer Engineering one about DEC. This latter is available from Amazon.co.uk, but at £65 I've ordered a second hand one from Abebooks.co.uk (£25)
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 22:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hrl771Fqul2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #213845 |
On Sun, 06 Sep 2020 16:28:05 +0100, gareth evans wrote: > After being made aware of them here, I have ordered the Abstracting book > about Fortran, and the Computer Engineering one about DEC. > > This latter is available from Amazon.co.uk, but at £65 I've ordered a > second hand one from Abebooks.co.uk (£25) There are often copies on eBay. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-06 16:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1623319074.621126269.855298.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #213859 |
Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: > On Sun, 06 Sep 2020 16:28:05 +0100, gareth evans wrote: > >> After being made aware of them here, I have ordered the Abstracting book >> about Fortran, and the Computer Engineering one about DEC. >> >> This latter is available from Amazon.co.uk, but at £65 I've ordered a >> second hand one from Abebooks.co.uk (£25) > > There are often copies on eBay. > I just ordered the PB from Amazon for around $15 -- Pete
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| From | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| Date | 2020-09-08 11:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <22074924-f0eb-4497-af3e-f1a8789f4b1bo@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #213845 |
1) IBM's Early computers by Bashe. 2) IBM's System/360 and early 370 by Pugh. 3) Building IBM by Pugh 4) Father, Son & Co by Tom Watson Jr 5) Dits to Bits by Herman Lukoff 6) (Memoir by former American President who took over IBM). 7) Up the Organization by Townsend
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| From | John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> |
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| Date | 2020-09-08 18:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rj8ka0$1cof$1@gal.iecc.com> |
| In reply to | #213947 |
In article <22074924-f0eb-4497-af3e-f1a8789f4b1bo@googlegroups.com>, <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >1) IBM's Early computers by Bashe. > >2) IBM's System/360 and early 370 by Pugh. > >3) Building IBM by Pugh They're books by insiders written with the company's knowledge so I presume there is some dirty laundry they skip, but they're very informative and give a good feel for what it was like trying to get things to work and shipped. >4) Father, Son & Co by Tom Watson Jr Surprisingly good for a ghost-written autobiography. >6) (Memoir by former American President who took over IBM). Uh, what? No such person. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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| From | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| Date | 2020-09-08 12:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7d88bc1c-b833-4f6b-8387-f636c7e8baa2o@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #213958 |
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 2:59:14 PM UTC-4, John Levine wrote: > In article <22074924-f0eb-4497-af3e-f1a8789f4b1bo@googlegroups.com>, > <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: > >1) IBM's Early computers by Bashe. > > > >2) IBM's System/360 and early 370 by Pugh. > > > >3) Building IBM by Pugh > > They're books by insiders written with the company's knowledge so I > presume there is some dirty laundry they skip, but they're very > informative and give a good feel for what it was like trying to get > things to work and shipped. Yes, though the S/360 covers the defection of employees and the screwup of Future System, I suspect there is dirty laundry that is minimized. Also, I'm pretty sure they imply IBM invented nearly everything and don't give enough credit to others. For instance, who really invented the wire-spring relay--IBM, Bell, or someone else? IBM credits Bell for the transistor, but implies IBM developed beyond a laboratory curiosity. They imply they figured out how to make vacuum tubes suitable for digital service and shared that with the tube makers. The IBM books generally shy away from marketing. The Bell Labs histories are very similar. Excellent histories, but somewhat company centric. The Watson memoir is very candid. > >6) (Memoir by former American President who took over IBM). > > Uh, what? No such person. OOPS! That should be American EXPRESS. Sorry about that! Guy was Louis V. Gerstner.
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