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| Started by | Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> |
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| First post | 2020-08-08 13:34 +0000 |
| Last post | 2020-08-11 23:20 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 210 — 39 participants |
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Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-08 13:34 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 12:16 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-08 16:23 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 13:34 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 13:41 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 16:21 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 13:38 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-17 12:47 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-08-08 16:14 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-08-09 20:06 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-08-11 23:46 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garrett <dave@compassnet.com> - 2020-08-08 18:53 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 20:43 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 08:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 08:25 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-08-09 14:32 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-08-10 01:15 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 14:01 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 10:40 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-09 14:57 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:48 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 11:09 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 15:15 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-09 16:32 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-08-09 17:46 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:54 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-08-09 19:58 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 13:18 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-08-09 20:09 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:34 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-08-10 16:01 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-10 15:00 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-10 21:25 +0100
Re: EU, was Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-10 12:33 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 15:30 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-09 17:41 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 10:07 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:50 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 19:52 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 17:06 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 21:56 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 15:30 -0700
UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) lawrence <lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom> - 2020-08-10 14:48 -0500
Re: UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-10 13:05 -0700
Re: UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-10 18:19 -0400
Re: UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-10 21:38 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-08-10 01:16 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 10:07 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-08-13 09:57 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 08:01 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-13 14:33 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 10:46 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-13 10:40 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 11:49 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:24 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:05 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-13 17:04 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-13 22:57 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-14 02:48 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-08-16 11:45 +0200
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 07:37 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-16 16:00 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-08-23 12:25 +0200
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 09:16 +0100
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 21:11 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-14 17:06 -0500
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 22:45 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 20:29 -0300
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-15 17:44 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2020-08-15 22:52 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-16 03:40 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 23:51 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over greymaus@smaus.org - 2020-08-15 07:44 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:04 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 20:18 -0300
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 21:15 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 17:08 -0300
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-15 07:56 +0100
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-15 10:25 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-13 17:02 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-13 18:50 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-08-13 14:59 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-13 23:01 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 22:55 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 22:46 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-16 19:22 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 13:27 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 17:58 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 10:06 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-13 22:41 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2020-08-13 21:45 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-14 03:37 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over jtmpreno <none@znet.com> - 2020-08-13 20:54 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-14 04:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 06:14 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 11:57 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:19 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 16:12 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 11:46 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 23:07 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 11:22 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 23:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-14 18:45 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 16:42 -0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 13:42 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 23:10 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 09:21 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 09:46 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 11:14 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 11:33 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 19:37 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-18 14:36 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-18 14:34 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 19:42 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-18 11:17 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-08-18 19:41 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-18 04:19 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-18 11:31 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-18 14:45 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:43 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 16:49 -0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:50 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 16:31 -0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2020-08-14 01:40 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-09-08 16:37 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-08 14:42 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-08 15:42 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 11:56 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-08 19:23 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 15:47 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-10-04 21:38 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-09 18:28 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-10 15:33 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-10 17:16 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 14:40 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:22 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2020-08-31 23:17 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-09-01 01:19 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-01 04:40 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-09-01 20:21 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-09-01 01:55 -0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-09-01 09:36 +0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-10 15:30 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 17:47 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-11 11:26 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-11 18:37 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 15:46 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-11 19:58 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 18:44 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 16:20 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-12 19:23 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 17:37 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 18:12 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 19:08 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-13 23:15 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:44 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 10:08 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-14 03:42 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 06:25 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:57 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 21:01 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-23 16:54 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-11 21:34 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-11 19:56 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-11 19:13 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 22:53 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 19:17 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-12 07:01 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-11 18:39 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-11 20:28 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-12 07:12 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 22:53 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 15:06 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-08-11 23:35 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-11 17:29 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 20:30 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 21:44 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 21:50 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 06:50 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 18:02 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 14:50 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-12 15:56 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-08-12 15:26 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-12 15:41 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-12 17:47 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-02 09:41 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Neodome Admin <admin@neodome.net> - 2020-09-06 01:02 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Neodome Admin <admin@neodome.net> - 2020-09-06 01:02 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-08 02:29 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over lawrence <lawrenabe@abaluon.com> - 2020-08-12 14:59 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-08-11 23:20 +0000
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| Date | 2020-08-11 15:46 -0400 |
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On 11 Aug 2020 18:37:11 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: >On 2020-08-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> I wonder whether the question is moot. How many young people would >>> even care about Usenet anymore, even if they knew it existed? The >>> fact that Usenet is text-only is enough to drive most of them away. >>> "You mean, like, no pictures? No videos? Ewww... gross!" >> >> That’s one of the things I most like about it. If I want pictures I can >> always go get them. Let’s not even talk about (ugh) videos. > >Instructional videos are very useful for some things, like how to carry >out a certain practical, physical task. But people seem to be way too >fond of them, often using them when simple text and maybe a few >screenshots/other images would do just fine. Yep. And they are often also too fond of themselves. Ten minutes of some fat slob nattering, 30 seconds of him showing you how to do something, probably wrong, and then another ten minutes of fat slob nattering. The ones who know how to plan out what they're going to show and just cover the material are gold. >I don't want to have to devote my full attention to a video for many >minutes if the latter is the case. > >Niklas
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 19:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hpgbj9Fa67kU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #212667 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 15:46:32 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: > Yep. And they are often also too fond of themselves. Ten minutes of > some fat slob nattering, 30 seconds of him showing you how to do > something, probably wrong, and then another ten minutes of fat slob > nattering. > > The ones who know how to plan out what they're going to show and just > cover the material are gold. They all know. They are just trying to get their 'watched minutes' up to a monetization threshold. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 18:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <cl76jfh2te7evom8u44p2or59t653p189u@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #212668 |
On 11 Aug 2020 19:58:33 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 15:46:32 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: > >> Yep. And they are often also too fond of themselves. Ten minutes of >> some fat slob nattering, 30 seconds of him showing you how to do >> something, probably wrong, and then another ten minutes of fat slob >> nattering. >> >> The ones who know how to plan out what they're going to show and just >> cover the material are gold. > >They all know. > >They are just trying to get their 'watched minutes' up to a monetization >threshold. Never attribute to superior business acumen that which can be explained by stupidity.
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 16:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rguuj8$8hh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212667 |
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: > On 11 Aug 2020 18:37:11 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: > >>On 2020-08-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>> I wonder whether the question is moot. How many young people would >>>> even care about Usenet anymore, even if they knew it existed? The >>>> fact that Usenet is text-only is enough to drive most of them away. >>>> "You mean, like, no pictures? No videos? Ewww... gross!" >>> >>> That’s one of the things I most like about it. If I want pictures I can >>> always go get them. Let’s not even talk about (ugh) videos. >> >>Instructional videos are very useful for some things, like how to carry >>out a certain practical, physical task. But people seem to be way too >>fond of them, often using them when simple text and maybe a few >>screenshots/other images would do just fine. > > Yep. And they are often also too fond of themselves. Ten minutes of > some fat slob nattering, 30 seconds of him showing you how to do > something, probably wrong, and then another ten minutes of fat slob > nattering. > > The ones who know how to plan out what they're going to show and just > cover the material are gold. The absolute best videos on YouTube come from Andrew Camarata. No BS, he just films what he does. The production quality rivals the best you see on TV. No, scratch that, way better than anything on TV. Many are an hour long and that's way too short. There's something for everybody amazing scenery, heavy equipment, dogs, problem solving, humor, and inspiration. Interestingly Andrew went to college for computer studies but decided to do heavy equipment instead. Sort of like that guy in office space. First time I joined a fan club and I don't even like dogs. I feel like I should make a pilgrimage to Saugerties. What a beautiful part of the country. -- Dan Espen
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| From | usenet@only.tnx (Questor) |
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| Date | 2020-08-12 19:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5f343e79.2925937@news.dslextreme.com> |
| In reply to | #212669 |
On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:20:54 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: >> On 11 Aug 2020 18:37:11 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: >>>On 2020-08-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>>>>I wonder whether the question is moot. How many young people would >>>>>even care about Usenet anymore, even if they knew it existed? The >>>>>fact that Usenet is text-only is enough to drive most of them away. >>>>>"You mean, like, no pictures? No videos? Ewww... gross!" >>>> >>>>That's one of the things I most like about it. If I want pictures I can >>>>always go get them. Let's not even talk about (ugh) videos. >>> >>>Instructional videos are very useful for some things, like how to carry >>>out a certain practical, physical task. But people seem to be way too >>>fond of them, often using them when simple text and maybe a few >>>screenshots/other images would do just fine. >> >>Yep. And they are often also too fond of themselves. Ten minutes of >>some fat slob nattering, 30 seconds of him showing you how to do >>something, probably wrong, and then another ten minutes of fat slob >>nattering. >> >>The ones who know how to plan out what they're going to show and just >>cover the material are gold. > >The absolute best videos on YouTube come from Andrew Camarata. I highly recommend the videos of Mark Rober. Mark Rober is a former NASA engineer whose work includes designing some of the instrumentation for one of the Mars rovers. In addition to showcasing his inventiveness and design skills, the videos' writing, pacing, camera work, and editing are all excellent. Some topics include building a giant super soaker, dropping a car onto a custom trampoline, creating a glitter bomb in response to package thieves, trying to design a squirrel-proof bird feeder, some high-tech Halloween costumes, and explaining how the physics behind seemingly simple carnival games of skill make them so hard to beat. His data-driven approach is interesting, entertaining, and at times informative, and he doesn't get bogged down in the details. http://www.youtube.com/c/MarkRober/videos
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-12 17:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rh1nf4$l1g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212700 |
usenet@only.tnx (Questor) writes: > On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:20:54 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: >>> On 11 Aug 2020 18:37:11 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: >>>>On 2020-08-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>I wonder whether the question is moot. How many young people would >>>>>>even care about Usenet anymore, even if they knew it existed? The >>>>>>fact that Usenet is text-only is enough to drive most of them away. >>>>>>"You mean, like, no pictures? No videos? Ewww... gross!" >>>>> >>>>>That's one of the things I most like about it. If I want pictures I can >>>>>always go get them. Let's not even talk about (ugh) videos. >>>> >>>>Instructional videos are very useful for some things, like how to carry >>>>out a certain practical, physical task. But people seem to be way too >>>>fond of them, often using them when simple text and maybe a few >>>>screenshots/other images would do just fine. >>> >>>Yep. And they are often also too fond of themselves. Ten minutes of >>>some fat slob nattering, 30 seconds of him showing you how to do >>>something, probably wrong, and then another ten minutes of fat slob >>>nattering. >>> >>>The ones who know how to plan out what they're going to show and just >>>cover the material are gold. >> >>The absolute best videos on YouTube come from Andrew Camarata. > > I highly recommend the videos of Mark Rober. > > Mark Rober is a former NASA engineer whose work includes designing some of the > instrumentation for one of the Mars rovers. In addition to showcasing his > inventiveness and design skills, the videos' writing, pacing, camera work, and > editing are all excellent. Some topics include building a giant super soaker, > dropping a car onto a custom trampoline, creating a glitter bomb in response to > package thieves, trying to design a squirrel-proof bird feeder, some high-tech > Halloween costumes, and explaining how the physics behind seemingly simple > carnival games of skill make them so hard to beat. His data-driven approach is > interesting, entertaining, and at times informative, and he doesn't get bogged > down in the details. > > http://www.youtube.com/c/MarkRober/videos Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. I figured they were close. I also figured there's a certain amount of moisture which would be a lot more dense than air. I also figured the fart inside your body is under pressure. Mark didn't consider either of these factors. The fart is going to be at 98F. Mark didn't mention air temperature or altitude at all. Since air density is 1.2 kg/m^3 and methane is .67 kg/m^3 I'm guessing he's right. So, did not subscribe. A bit too simple minded for me. Another guy I like is Thoisoi2 who does chemistry. Chemistry for grownups. He did one on iodine a while back. Before that, I'd never seen iodine in it's metallic state. -- Dan Espen
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rh49tu22dp3@news2.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #212706 |
On 2020-08-12, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". > I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. > If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. > I figured they were close. Who needs Google (or even DuckDuckGo, if you'd rather not put up with the surveillance)? Methane (CH4) has a molecular weight of 16, while air, being a mixture of roughly 80% N2 (molecular weight 28) and 20% O2 (molecular weight 32), averages out to about 29. Methane is considerably lighter. > I also figured there's a certain amount of moisture which > would be a lot more dense than air. Depends on whether you think of it as liquid water (800 times as dense as air) or water vapour (molecular weight 18). > I also figured the fart inside your body is under pressure. > Mark didn't consider either of these factors. The pressure would be a small fraction of an atmosphere, so it shouldn't be significant. > The fart is going to be at 98F. Mark didn't mention > air temperature or altitude at all. 98F is about 310K; room temperature air (say, 70F) would be about 294K. That's only about a 5% change. As for altitude, both the fart and the ambient air will expand by the same amount. Farting at altitude is just equalization, after all. :-) -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship. \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult. X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | Linux is anarchy. / \ if you read it the right way. | Pick your poison.
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-13 18:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rh4dsb$cq4$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212747 |
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > On 2020-08-12, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". >> I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. >> If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. >> I figured they were close. > > Who needs Google (or even DuckDuckGo, if you'd rather not > put up with the surveillance)? Methane (CH4) has a molecular > weight of 16, while air, being a mixture of roughly 80% N2 > (molecular weight 28) and 20% O2 (molecular weight 32), > averages out to about 29. Methane is considerably lighter. Without knowing any of that, I guess I could have gotten there by knowing that Methane is CH4. The Carbon is in the same neighborhood as Oxygen and Nitrogen but the Hydrogen is the lightest element by far. As for Google surveillance, please Google remember everything I type. I love when I type the letter Y and it knows I want YouTube. I've got nothing to hide. I normally run Firefox with an ad-blocker. I had no idea that YouTube shows ads. To help these companies out during the shut down, when I had to switch to Google Chrome I didn't install an ad blocker. It's funny, I bought some rubber gym flooring. Now everywhere I go I see rubber flooring ads. I already bought the stuff, do they really think I'm going to buy more? So, now Google knows I'm also interested in farts and density. Doesn't matter to me. -- Dan Espen
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-13 19:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <8thbjf9fdq03o6adsuv43de40rj8g305cg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #212753 |
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:12:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > >> On 2020-08-12, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". >>> I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. >>> If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. >>> I figured they were close. >> >> Who needs Google (or even DuckDuckGo, if you'd rather not >> put up with the surveillance)? Methane (CH4) has a molecular >> weight of 16, while air, being a mixture of roughly 80% N2 >> (molecular weight 28) and 20% O2 (molecular weight 32), >> averages out to about 29. Methane is considerably lighter. > >Without knowing any of that, I guess I could have gotten there >by knowing that Methane is CH4. The Carbon is in the same >neighborhood as Oxygen and Nitrogen but the Hydrogen is >the lightest element by far. > >As for Google surveillance, please Google remember everything >I type. I love when I type the letter Y and it knows I want >YouTube. I've got nothing to hide. > >I normally run Firefox with an ad-blocker. I had no idea that YouTube shows >ads. To help these companies out during the shut down, >when I had to switch to Google Chrome >I didn't install an ad blocker. It's funny, I bought some rubber >gym flooring. Now everywhere I go I see rubber flooring ads. >I already bought the stuff, do they really think I'm going to buy more? The software that makes the determination of what kind of ad to present appears to be an example of the "artificial stupidity" branch of AI. How many washing machines do they think someone buys in a lifetime? >So, now Google knows I'm also interested in farts and density. >Doesn't matter to me.
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| From | Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-13 23:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rh534v$l53$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212757 |
On 8/13/2020 6:08 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:12:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: >> >>> On 2020-08-12, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". >>>> I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. >>>> If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. >>>> I figured they were close. >>> >>> Who needs Google (or even DuckDuckGo, if you'd rather not >>> put up with the surveillance)? Methane (CH4) has a molecular >>> weight of 16, while air, being a mixture of roughly 80% N2 >>> (molecular weight 28) and 20% O2 (molecular weight 32), >>> averages out to about 29. Methane is considerably lighter. >> >> Without knowing any of that, I guess I could have gotten there >> by knowing that Methane is CH4. The Carbon is in the same >> neighborhood as Oxygen and Nitrogen but the Hydrogen is >> the lightest element by far. >> >> As for Google surveillance, please Google remember everything >> I type. I love when I type the letter Y and it knows I want >> YouTube. I've got nothing to hide. >> >> I normally run Firefox with an ad-blocker. I had no idea that YouTube shows >> ads. To help these companies out during the shut down, >> when I had to switch to Google Chrome >> I didn't install an ad blocker. It's funny, I bought some rubber >> gym flooring. Now everywhere I go I see rubber flooring ads. >> I already bought the stuff, do they really think I'm going to buy more? > > The software that makes the determination of what kind of ad to > present appears to be an example of the "artificial stupidity" branch > of AI. How many washing machines do they think someone buys in a > lifetime? > >> So, now Google knows I'm also interested in farts and density. >> Doesn't matter to me. Ah, but at the moment, the question is "who's intereted in washing machines?" They don't know that you've bought one. Once they've gotrt better data/surveillance, that'll be fixed.
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1236965293.619105771.721768.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #212773 |
Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: > On 8/13/2020 6:08 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:12:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: >>> >>>> On 2020-08-12, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". >>>>> I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. >>>>> If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. >>>>> I figured they were close. >>>> >>>> Who needs Google (or even DuckDuckGo, if you'd rather not >>>> put up with the surveillance)? Methane (CH4) has a molecular >>>> weight of 16, while air, being a mixture of roughly 80% N2 >>>> (molecular weight 28) and 20% O2 (molecular weight 32), >>>> averages out to about 29. Methane is considerably lighter. >>> >>> Without knowing any of that, I guess I could have gotten there >>> by knowing that Methane is CH4. The Carbon is in the same >>> neighborhood as Oxygen and Nitrogen but the Hydrogen is >>> the lightest element by far. >>> >>> As for Google surveillance, please Google remember everything >>> I type. I love when I type the letter Y and it knows I want >>> YouTube. I've got nothing to hide. >>> >>> I normally run Firefox with an ad-blocker. I had no idea that YouTube shows >>> ads. To help these companies out during the shut down, >>> when I had to switch to Google Chrome >>> I didn't install an ad blocker. It's funny, I bought some rubber >>> gym flooring. Now everywhere I go I see rubber flooring ads. >>> I already bought the stuff, do they really think I'm going to buy more? >> >> The software that makes the determination of what kind of ad to >> present appears to be an example of the "artificial stupidity" branch >> of AI. How many washing machines do they think someone buys in a >> lifetime? >> >>> So, now Google knows I'm also interested in farts and density. >>> Doesn't matter to me. > > Ah, but at the moment, the question is "who's intereted in washing > machines?" They don't know that you've bought one. Once they've gotrt > better data/surveillance, that'll be fixed. > Even at that level it’s stupid. If I research washing machines in January, by June I’ve either bought one or decided I’m not interested, so,it’s stupid to,keep showing me the ads. I’ve seen this a few times where six months later I get an ad for some durable item with a long lifespan. -- Pete
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-14 13:44 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bajdjfh06agu1893v0k9iue6ps8l65s8jn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #212799 |
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:13:23 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >> On 8/13/2020 6:08 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:12:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: >>>> >>>>> On 2020-08-12, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". >>>>>> I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. >>>>>> If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. >>>>>> I figured they were close. >>>>> >>>>> Who needs Google (or even DuckDuckGo, if you'd rather not >>>>> put up with the surveillance)? Methane (CH4) has a molecular >>>>> weight of 16, while air, being a mixture of roughly 80% N2 >>>>> (molecular weight 28) and 20% O2 (molecular weight 32), >>>>> averages out to about 29. Methane is considerably lighter. >>>> >>>> Without knowing any of that, I guess I could have gotten there >>>> by knowing that Methane is CH4. The Carbon is in the same >>>> neighborhood as Oxygen and Nitrogen but the Hydrogen is >>>> the lightest element by far. >>>> >>>> As for Google surveillance, please Google remember everything >>>> I type. I love when I type the letter Y and it knows I want >>>> YouTube. I've got nothing to hide. >>>> >>>> I normally run Firefox with an ad-blocker. I had no idea that YouTube shows >>>> ads. To help these companies out during the shut down, >>>> when I had to switch to Google Chrome >>>> I didn't install an ad blocker. It's funny, I bought some rubber >>>> gym flooring. Now everywhere I go I see rubber flooring ads. >>>> I already bought the stuff, do they really think I'm going to buy more? >>> >>> The software that makes the determination of what kind of ad to >>> present appears to be an example of the "artificial stupidity" branch >>> of AI. How many washing machines do they think someone buys in a >>> lifetime? >>> >>>> So, now Google knows I'm also interested in farts and density. >>>> Doesn't matter to me. >> >> Ah, but at the moment, the question is "who's intereted in washing >> machines?" They don't know that you've bought one. Once they've gotrt >> better data/surveillance, that'll be fixed. >> > >Even at that level it’s stupid. If I research washing machines in January, >by June I’ve either bought one or decided I’m not interested, so,it’s >stupid to,keep showing me the ads. I’ve seen this a few times where six >months later I get an ad for some durable item with a long lifespan. And I'm pretty sure that if I bought the thing on Amazon then Amazon knows that I bought the thing.
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| From | JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-14 10:08 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <d5adjfp6in3qh3fiju37vlstv9sdi2or33@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #212753 |
On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 18:12:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > >> On 2020-08-12, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". >>> I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. >>> If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. >>> I figured they were close. >> >> Who needs Google (or even DuckDuckGo, if you'd rather not >> put up with the surveillance)? Methane (CH4) has a molecular >> weight of 16, while air, being a mixture of roughly 80% N2 >> (molecular weight 28) and 20% O2 (molecular weight 32), >> averages out to about 29. Methane is considerably lighter. > >Without knowing any of that, I guess I could have gotten there >by knowing that Methane is CH4. The Carbon is in the same >neighborhood as Oxygen and Nitrogen but the Hydrogen is >the lightest element by far. > >As for Google surveillance, please Google remember everything >I type. I love when I type the letter Y and it knows I want >YouTube. I've got nothing to hide. > >I normally run Firefox with an ad-blocker. I had no idea that YouTube shows >ads. To help these companies out during the shut down, >when I had to switch to Google Chrome >I didn't install an ad blocker. It's funny, I bought some rubber >gym flooring. Now everywhere I go I see rubber flooring ads. >I already bought the stuff, do they really think I'm going to buy more? > >So, now Google knows I'm also interested in farts and density. >Doesn't matter to me. Its like the Tivo, you watch something out of curiosity, and the Tivo starts downloading more of the same. Thats from seeing someone else talk about it, never had a Tivo. -- Jim
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| From | usenet@only.tnx (Questor) |
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| Date | 2020-08-14 03:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5f3607ef.11307339@news.dslextreme.com> |
| In reply to | #212706 |
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:37:34 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >usenet@only.tnx (Questor) writes: >> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:20:54 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: >>>> On 11 Aug 2020 18:37:11 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: >>>>>On 2020-08-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>I wonder whether the question is moot. How many young people would >>>>>>>even care about Usenet anymore, even if they knew it existed? The >>>>>>>fact that Usenet is text-only is enough to drive most of them away. >>>>>>>"You mean, like, no pictures? No videos? Ewww... gross!" >>>>>> >>>>>>That's one of the things I most like about it. If I want pictures I can >>>>>>always go get them. Let's not even talk about (ugh) videos. >>>>> >>>>>Instructional videos are very useful for some things, like how to carry >>>>>out a certain practical, physical task. But people seem to be way too >>>>>fond of them, often using them when simple text and maybe a few >>>>>screenshots/other images would do just fine. >>>> >>>>Yep. And they are often also too fond of themselves. Ten minutes of >>>>some fat slob nattering, 30 seconds of him showing you how to do >>>>something, probably wrong, and then another ten minutes of fat slob >>>>nattering. >>>> >>>>The ones who know how to plan out what they're going to show and just >>>>cover the material are gold. >>> >>>The absolute best videos on YouTube come from Andrew Camarata. >> >> I highly recommend the videos of Mark Rober. >> >> Mark Rober is a former NASA engineer whose work includes designing some of the >> instrumentation for one of the Mars rovers. In addition to showcasing his >> inventiveness and design skills, the videos' writing, pacing, camera work, and >> editing are all excellent. Some topics include building a giant super soaker, >> dropping a car onto a custom trampoline, creating a glitter bomb in response to >> package thieves, trying to design a squirrel-proof bird feeder, some high-tech >> Halloween costumes, and explaining how the physics behind seemingly simple >> carnival games of skill make them so hard to beat. His data-driven approach is >> interesting, entertaining, and at times informative, and he doesn't get bogged >> down in the details. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/c/MarkRober/videos > >Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". >I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. >If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. >I figured they were close. > >I also figured there's a certain amount of moisture which would be a lot >more dense than air. I also figured the fart inside your body is under pressure. >Mark didn't consider either of these factors. > >The fart is going to be at 98F. Mark didn't mention air temperature or >altitude at all. > >Since air density is 1.2 kg/m^3 and methane is .67 kg/m^3 I'm guessing >he's right. > >So, did not subscribe. A bit too simple minded for me. I think it says something that you picked a fart video on which to judge him. To anyone else, I would suggest choosing a video where he builds something. The squirrel video is one of the longest at over twenty minutes, but it has some excellent slow-motion footage that demonstrates the feats these critters are capable of, as well as some of the physics involved.
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-14 06:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rh5oqb$kmc$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212769 |
usenet@only.tnx (Questor) writes: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:37:34 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>usenet@only.tnx (Questor) writes: >>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 16:20:54 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: >>>>> On 11 Aug 2020 18:37:11 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: >>>>>>On 2020-08-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>I wonder whether the question is moot. How many young people would >>>>>>>>even care about Usenet anymore, even if they knew it existed? The >>>>>>>>fact that Usenet is text-only is enough to drive most of them away. >>>>>>>>"You mean, like, no pictures? No videos? Ewww... gross!" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>That's one of the things I most like about it. If I want pictures I can >>>>>>>always go get them. Let's not even talk about (ugh) videos. >>>>>> >>>>>>Instructional videos are very useful for some things, like how to carry >>>>>>out a certain practical, physical task. But people seem to be way too >>>>>>fond of them, often using them when simple text and maybe a few >>>>>>screenshots/other images would do just fine. >>>>> >>>>>Yep. And they are often also too fond of themselves. Ten minutes of >>>>>some fat slob nattering, 30 seconds of him showing you how to do >>>>>something, probably wrong, and then another ten minutes of fat slob >>>>>nattering. >>>>> >>>>>The ones who know how to plan out what they're going to show and just >>>>>cover the material are gold. >>>> >>>>The absolute best videos on YouTube come from Andrew Camarata. >>> >>> I highly recommend the videos of Mark Rober. >>> >>> Mark Rober is a former NASA engineer whose work includes designing some of the >>> instrumentation for one of the Mars rovers. In addition to showcasing his >>> inventiveness and design skills, the videos' writing, pacing, camera work, and >>> editing are all excellent. Some topics include building a giant super soaker, >>> dropping a car onto a custom trampoline, creating a glitter bomb in response to >>> package thieves, trying to design a squirrel-proof bird feeder, some high-tech >>> Halloween costumes, and explaining how the physics behind seemingly simple >>> carnival games of skill make them so hard to beat. His data-driven approach is >>> interesting, entertaining, and at times informative, and he doesn't get bogged >>> down in the details. >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/c/MarkRober/videos >> >>Hmm, watched "Does Farting Make You Weigh Less?". >>I did not use Google to check the density or air vs methane. >>If I had I would have guessed no, instead I guessed yes. >>I figured they were close. >> >>I also figured there's a certain amount of moisture which would be a lot >>more dense than air. I also figured the fart inside your body is under pressure. >>Mark didn't consider either of these factors. >> >>The fart is going to be at 98F. Mark didn't mention air temperature or >>altitude at all. >> >>Since air density is 1.2 kg/m^3 and methane is .67 kg/m^3 I'm guessing >>he's right. >> >>So, did not subscribe. A bit too simple minded for me. > > I think it says something that you picked a fart video on which to judge him. > To anyone else, I would suggest choosing a video where he builds something. > The squirrel video is one of the longest at over twenty minutes, but it has some > excellent slow-motion footage that demonstrates the feats these critters are > capable of, as well as some of the physics involved. I was tempted by the squirrel video but I've battled them myself. I figured I already knew it was hopeless. Maybe I'll check. Years ago I wanted a bird feeder in the yard but I didn't want a squirrel feeder. After a few attempts I decided, there was no way a squirrel could get up a smooth half inch metal pole coated in grease. Next morning I saw my greased metal pole converted into a mud covered metal pole with a squirrel throwing seed everywhere. So, sometimes I enjoy the squirrel launcher videos. My hero AC builds lots of stuff and gets right to it. Doesn't talk about it like this guy. Until you see him install a radio in his truck with a chainsaw you haven't seen anything. Not sure your guy is in the same league, but like I said, maybe I'll look again. -- Dan Espen
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rh6khf225i9@news1.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #212778 |
On 2020-08-14, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > I was tempted by the squirrel video but I've battled them myself. > I figured I already knew it was hopeless. > > Maybe I'll check. > > Years ago I wanted a bird feeder in the yard but I didn't want > a squirrel feeder. After a few attempts I decided, there was no > way a squirrel could get up a smooth half inch metal pole coated in > grease. > > Next morning I saw my greased metal pole converted into a mud covered > metal pole with a squirrel throwing seed everywhere. I was impressed by squirrels' ability to shinny down the 2-foot wire with which I hung the feeder from a tree branch. Even when I installed a plastic dome above the feeder, they proved quite resourceful in getting around it. > So, sometimes I enjoy the squirrel launcher videos. I finally got a gadget called a "Yankee Flipper", a feeder whose perches were hooked to an electric motor which was triggered by the weight of a squirrel but not by birds. I witnessed a couple of events which were even more amusing than the squirrel launcher. > My hero AC builds lots of stuff and gets right to it. > Doesn't talk about it like this guy. Until you see him install > a radio in his truck with a chainsaw you haven't seen anything. > Not sure your guy is in the same league, but like I said, > maybe I'll look again. Sounds like Red Green... -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship. \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult. X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | Linux is anarchy. / \ if you read it the right way. | Pick your poison.
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-14 15:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rh6qau$ufm$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212825 |
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > On 2020-08-14, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I was tempted by the squirrel video but I've battled them myself. >> I figured I already knew it was hopeless. >> >> Maybe I'll check. >> >> Years ago I wanted a bird feeder in the yard but I didn't want >> a squirrel feeder. After a few attempts I decided, there was no >> way a squirrel could get up a smooth half inch metal pole coated in >> grease. >> >> Next morning I saw my greased metal pole converted into a mud covered >> metal pole with a squirrel throwing seed everywhere. > > I was impressed by squirrels' ability to shinny down the 2-foot > wire with which I hung the feeder from a tree branch. Even when > I installed a plastic dome above the feeder, they proved quite > resourceful in getting around it. > >> So, sometimes I enjoy the squirrel launcher videos. > > I finally got a gadget called a "Yankee Flipper", a feeder whose > perches were hooked to an electric motor which was triggered by > the weight of a squirrel but not by birds. I witnessed a couple > of events which were even more amusing than the squirrel launcher. > >> My hero AC builds lots of stuff and gets right to it. >> Doesn't talk about it like this guy. Until you see him install >> a radio in his truck with a chainsaw you haven't seen anything. >> Not sure your guy is in the same league, but like I said, >> maybe I'll look again. > > Sounds like Red Green... It may have sounded like that but it's nothing like that. I'll post a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PClVezOduFk This one is only 18 minutes. He often gets a little brutal but check out the result. At the end he's got a really nice looking radio in the truck. There's another one where he's trying one thing after another to remove the hydraulic cylinder from a tractor. This is while it's inside his shop. He finally maneuvers the bucket from his excavator inside the door of the shop and yanks it off. Without breaking anything. I can't stop laughing just typing this. Got to go do some more painting. -- Dan Espen
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-08-14 21:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rh6u2n02e5j@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #212836 |
On 2020-08-14, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > >> On 2020-08-14, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My hero AC builds lots of stuff and gets right to it. >>> Doesn't talk about it like this guy. Until you see him install >>> a radio in his truck with a chainsaw you haven't seen anything. >>> Not sure your guy is in the same league, but like I said, >>> maybe I'll look again. >> >> Sounds like Red Green... > > It may have sounded like that but it's nothing like that. > > I'll post a link: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PClVezOduFk OK, definitely not quite Red Green. He seems to know what he's doing, and I didn't see a single piece of duct tape. I love his "easy-access dash". > This one is only 18 minutes. Plus three ad breaks, grrr... > He often gets a little brutal but check out the result. Nice editorializing at the end. > At the end he's got a really nice looking radio in the truck. The Detroid auto stylists must be tearing their hair out, though. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Microsoft is a dictatorship. \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | Apple is a cult. X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | Linux is anarchy. / \ if you read it the right way. | Pick your poison.
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-23 16:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rhul2m$g41$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212844 |
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: > On 2020-08-14, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes: >> >>> On 2020-08-14, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My hero AC builds lots of stuff and gets right to it. >>>> Doesn't talk about it like this guy. Until you see him install >>>> a radio in his truck with a chainsaw you haven't seen anything. >>>> Not sure your guy is in the same league, but like I said, >>>> maybe I'll look again. >>> >>> Sounds like Red Green... >> >> It may have sounded like that but it's nothing like that. >> >> I'll post a link: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PClVezOduFk > > OK, definitely not quite Red Green. He seems to know what > he's doing, and I didn't see a single piece of duct tape. > > I love his "easy-access dash". > >> This one is only 18 minutes. > > Plus three ad breaks, grrr... > >> He often gets a little brutal but check out the result. > > Nice editorializing at the end. > >> At the end he's got a really nice looking radio in the truck. > > The Detroid auto stylists must be tearing their hair out, though. He's got a video when he talks about what Detroit does. Some of it right on the mark. He's got another video where he an his friends take some cars into a field and drive them to destruction. That's where he makes one of his most famous comments, "it broke for no reason". He says he's got a CyberTruck on order. I really can't get enough. When I hear comments about "kids today" he's the first thing that comes to mind. They're still making some fine human beings. -- Dan Espen
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| From | Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> |
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| Date | 2020-08-11 21:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hpgh7uFfjbtU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #212667 |
On 2020-08-11, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11 Aug 2020 18:37:11 GMT, Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> wrote: > >>On 2020-08-11, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>Instructional videos are very useful for some things, like how to carry >>out a certain practical, physical task. But people seem to be way too >>fond of them, often using them when simple text and maybe a few >>screenshots/other images would do just fine. > > Yep. And they are often also too fond of themselves. Ten minutes of > some fat slob nattering, 30 seconds of him showing you how to do > something, probably wrong, and then another ten minutes of fat slob > nattering. > > The ones who know how to plan out what they're going to show and just > cover the material are gold. Exactly! *applause* Niklas -- "... I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab. I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate. All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last week. Time to die...". - Peter Gutmann in alt.sysadmin.recovery
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