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| Started by | Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> |
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| First post | 2020-08-08 13:34 +0000 |
| Last post | 2020-08-11 23:20 +0000 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 210 — 39 participants |
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Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-08 13:34 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 12:16 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-08 16:23 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 13:34 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 13:41 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 16:21 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 13:38 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-17 12:47 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-08-08 16:14 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-08-09 20:06 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-08-11 23:46 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garrett <dave@compassnet.com> - 2020-08-08 18:53 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 20:43 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 08:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 08:25 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-08-09 14:32 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-08-10 01:15 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 14:01 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 10:40 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-09 14:57 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:48 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 11:09 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 15:15 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-09 16:32 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-08-09 17:46 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:54 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-08-09 19:58 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 13:18 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-08-09 20:09 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:34 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-08-10 16:01 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-10 15:00 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-10 21:25 +0100
Re: EU, was Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-10 12:33 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 15:30 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-09 17:41 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 10:07 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:50 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 19:52 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 17:06 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 21:56 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 15:30 -0700
UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) lawrence <lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom> - 2020-08-10 14:48 -0500
Re: UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-10 13:05 -0700
Re: UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-10 18:19 -0400
Re: UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-10 21:38 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-08-10 01:16 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 10:07 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-08-13 09:57 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 08:01 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-13 14:33 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 10:46 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-13 10:40 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 11:49 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:24 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:05 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-13 17:04 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-13 22:57 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-14 02:48 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-08-16 11:45 +0200
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 07:37 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-16 16:00 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-08-23 12:25 +0200
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 09:16 +0100
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 21:11 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-14 17:06 -0500
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 22:45 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 20:29 -0300
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-15 17:44 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2020-08-15 22:52 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-16 03:40 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 23:51 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over greymaus@smaus.org - 2020-08-15 07:44 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:04 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 20:18 -0300
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 21:15 -0400
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 17:08 -0300
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-15 07:56 +0100
Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-15 10:25 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-13 17:02 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-13 18:50 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-08-13 14:59 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-13 23:01 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 22:55 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 22:46 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-16 19:22 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 13:27 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 17:58 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 10:06 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-13 22:41 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2020-08-13 21:45 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-14 03:37 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over jtmpreno <none@znet.com> - 2020-08-13 20:54 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-14 04:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 06:14 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 11:57 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:19 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 16:12 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 11:46 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 23:07 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 11:22 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 23:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-14 18:45 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 16:42 -0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 13:42 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 23:10 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 09:21 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 09:46 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 11:14 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 11:33 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 19:37 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-18 14:36 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-18 14:34 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 19:42 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-18 11:17 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-08-18 19:41 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-18 04:19 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-18 11:31 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-18 14:45 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:43 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 16:49 -0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:50 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 16:31 -0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2020-08-14 01:40 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-09-08 16:37 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-08 14:42 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-08 15:42 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 11:56 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-08 19:23 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 15:47 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-10-04 21:38 +0200
Re: Is the Eternal September over Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-09 18:28 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-10 15:33 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-10 17:16 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 14:40 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:22 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2020-08-31 23:17 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-09-01 01:19 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-01 04:40 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-09-01 20:21 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-09-01 01:55 -0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-09-01 09:36 +0300
Re: Is the Eternal September over scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-10 15:30 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 17:47 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-11 11:26 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-11 18:37 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 15:46 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-11 19:58 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 18:44 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 16:20 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-12 19:23 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 17:37 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 18:12 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 19:08 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-13 23:15 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:44 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 10:08 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-14 03:42 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 06:25 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:57 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 21:01 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-23 16:54 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-11 21:34 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-11 19:56 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-11 19:13 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 22:53 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 19:17 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-12 07:01 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-11 18:39 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-11 20:28 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-12 07:12 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 22:53 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 15:06 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-08-11 23:35 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-11 17:29 -0700
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 20:30 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 21:44 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 21:50 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 06:50 -0400
Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 18:02 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 14:50 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-12 15:56 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-08-12 15:26 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-12 15:41 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-12 17:47 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-02 09:41 +0100
Re: Is the Eternal September over Neodome Admin <admin@neodome.net> - 2020-09-06 01:02 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over Neodome Admin <admin@neodome.net> - 2020-09-06 01:02 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-08 02:29 +0000
Re: Is the Eternal September over lawrence <lawrenabe@abaluon.com> - 2020-08-12 14:59 -0500
Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-08-11 23:20 +0000
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 14:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rgpgef$ua4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212598 |
Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> writes: > On 2020-08-09, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>> >>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >> >> A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >> Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict >> and putting the EU on an even basis with the US. >> Now if we could get a South American and an African union >> going. > > The African Union exists, we just don't hear much about it generally. Somehow, it got by me. The African Union is a continental union consisting of 55 member states located on the continent of Africa. The AU was announced in the Sirte Declaration in Sirte, Libya, on 9 September 1999, calling for the establishment of the African Union. Maybe this was why: Founder: Muammar al-Gaddafi -- Dan Espen
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 11:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <l830jfl9jcm8lfpc1hdbr20cdnl94mbfkb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #212597 |
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: >Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: > >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >> >>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>> >>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>> >>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com says... >>>>> >>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>> >>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily due to >>>>> the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not budge from >>>>> their apparent conviction that the name of the newsgroup was really >>>>> alt.politics.home.repair. >>>> >>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>> >>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >> >> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... > >A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict >and putting the EU on an even basis with the US. >Now if we could get a South American and an African union >going. > >I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end >the curse of the Tower of Babel. My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept but with the execution.
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 15:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hpai8aFe99U20@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #212599 |
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: > On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >> >>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>> >>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com >>>>>> says... >>>>>> >>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>> >>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily due >>>>>> to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not >>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the newsgroup >>>>>> was really alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>> >>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>> >>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>> >>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >> >>A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting the >>EU on an even basis with the US. >>Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >> >>I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end the >>curse of the Tower of Babel. > > My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept > but with the execution. It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no restriction. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 16:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsAC14B27FA325Eadmin127001@144.76.35.198> |
| In reply to | #212600 |
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: > On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: > >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>> >>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com >>>>>>> says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily due >>>>>>> to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not >>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the newsgroup >>>>>>> was really alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>>> >>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>>> >>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>>> >>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >>> >>>A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting the >>>EU on an even basis with the US. >>>Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>> That's a very naive view, ignoring corporate vested interests. >>>I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end the >>>curse of the Tower of Babel. >> >> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >> but with the execution. > > It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. > Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no > restriction. > Stop trying to get a rise out of Sn!pe. You're all bad boys. PS add radio-amateur to the list for longest bickering match ever. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
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| From | snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 17:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1ouvqlv.kny6ukdo360aN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #212602 |
Kerr-Mudd,John <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: > On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: > > > On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: > >>> > >>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com > >>>>>>> says... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. > >>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive > >>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily > due > >>>>>>> to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not > >>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the > newsgroup > >>>>>>> was really alt.politics.home.repair. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... > >>>>> > >>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. > >>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. > >>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. > >>>> > >>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... > >>> > >>>A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. > >>>Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting > the > >>>EU on an even basis with the US. > >>>Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. > >>> > That's a very naive view, ignoring corporate vested interests. > > >>>I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end > the > >>>curse of the Tower of Babel. > >> > >> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept > >> but with the execution. > > > > It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. > > Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no > > restriction. > > > Stop trying to get a rise out of Sn!pe. You're all bad boys. > > PS add radio-amateur to the list for longest bickering match ever. It's faintly amusing that some here were complaining about politics taking over Usenet. Maybe it's just British humour. -- ^Ï^ <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E> My pet rock Gordon just is.
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 14:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rgpgpl$ua4$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212603 |
snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) writes: > Kerr-Mudd,John <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: > >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >> >> > On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >> >>> >> >>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com >> >>>>>>> says... >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >> >>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >> >>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily >> due >> >>>>>>> to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not >> >>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the >> newsgroup >> >>>>>>> was really alt.politics.home.repair. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >> >>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >> >>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >> >>>> >> >>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >> >>> >> >>>A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >> >>>Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting >> the >> >>>EU on an even basis with the US. >> >>>Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >> >>> >> That's a very naive view, ignoring corporate vested interests. >> >> >>>I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end >> the >> >>>curse of the Tower of Babel. >> >> >> >> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >> >> but with the execution. >> > >> > It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. >> > Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no >> > restriction. >> > >> Stop trying to get a rise out of Sn!pe. You're all bad boys. >> >> PS add radio-amateur to the list for longest bickering match ever. > > It's faintly amusing that some here were complaining about > politics taking over Usenet. Maybe it's just British humour. Oh, you're here. You're the idiot participating in a long running argument on eternal-september.support. Here Ray is running a Usenet server out of the goodness of his heart and you think he wants to see that crap. -- Dan Espen
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| From | snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 19:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1ouvwqd.1kg6hftz1v0avN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #212615 |
Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) writes: > > > Kerr-Mudd,John <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: > >> > >> > On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>>Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: > >> >>> > >> >>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com > >> >>>>>>> says... > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. > >> >>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive > >> >>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily > >> due > >> >>>>>>> to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not > >> >>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the > >> newsgroup > >> >>>>>>> was really alt.politics.home.repair. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. > >> >>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. > >> >>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... > >> >>> > >> >>>A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. > >> >>>Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting > >> the > >> >>>EU on an even basis with the US. > >> >>>Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. > >> >>> > >> That's a very naive view, ignoring corporate vested interests. > >> > >> >>>I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end > >> the > >> >>>curse of the Tower of Babel. > >> >> > >> >> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept > >> >> but with the execution. > >> > > >> > It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. > >> > Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no > >> > restriction. > >> > > >> Stop trying to get a rise out of Sn!pe. You're all bad boys. > >> > >> PS add radio-amateur to the list for longest bickering match ever. > > > > It's faintly amusing that some here were complaining about > > politics taking over Usenet. Maybe it's just British humour. > > Oh, you're here. You're the idiot participating in a long running > argument on eternal-september.support. Here Ray is running a > Usenet server out of the goodness of his heart and you think he > wants to see that crap. Yes. I'm the one setting f'ups to the bit bucket. -- ^Ï^ <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E> My pet rock Gordon just is.
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 13:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rrb0jftktvls7ma34mjka5imo91oor6ls3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #212600 |
On 9 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: > >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>> >>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com >>>>>>> says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily due >>>>>>> to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not >>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the newsgroup >>>>>>> was really alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>>> >>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>>> >>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>>> >>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >>> >>>A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting the >>>EU on an even basis with the US. >>>Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>> >>>I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end the >>>curse of the Tower of Babel. >> >> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >> but with the execution. > >It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. >Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no >restriction. In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work in 50 countries and pass between them with no restriction.
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| From | Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 20:09 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rgpe55$apd$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212609 |
Op 9-8-2020 om 19:18 schreef J. Clarke: > On 9 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: > >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com >>>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily due >>>>>>>> to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not >>>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the newsgroup >>>>>>>> was really alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>>>> >>>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>>>> >>>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >>>> >>>> A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>> Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting the >>>> EU on an even basis with the US. >>>> Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>>> >>>> I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end the >>>> curse of the Tower of Babel. >>> >>> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >>> but with the execution. >> >> It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. >> Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no >> restriction. > > In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work in 50 countries > and pass between them with no restriction. > Those are called States and the form together one country.....
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 14:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <jcg0jf177k4m0c96emfnvimbc06tagcmg4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #212611 |
On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:09:41 +0200, Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote: >Op 9-8-2020 om 19:18 schreef J. Clarke: >> On 9 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily due >>>>>>>>> to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not >>>>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the newsgroup >>>>>>>>> was really alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >>>>> >>>>> A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>>> Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting the >>>>> EU on an even basis with the US. >>>>> Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>>>> >>>>> I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end the >>>>> curse of the Tower of Babel. >>>> >>>> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >>>> but with the execution. >>> >>> It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. >>> Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no >>> restriction. >> >> In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work in 50 countries >> and pass between them with no restriction. >> > > >Those are called States and the form together one country..... Doesn't matter what you call it, each has its own laws, its own courts, and these days its own king.
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| From | Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> |
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| Date | 2020-08-10 16:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rgrjvf$la$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212612 |
Op 9-8-2020 om 20:34 schreef J. Clarke: > On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:09:41 +0200, Rink wrote: >> Op 9-8-2020 om 19:18 schreef J. Clarke: >>> On 9 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: <snip> >>>>>> A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>>>> Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting the >>>>>> EU on an even basis with the US. >>>>>> Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>>>>> >>>>>> I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end the >>>>>> curse of the Tower of Babel. >>>>> >>>>> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >>>>> but with the execution. >>>> >>>> It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. >>>> Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no >>>> restriction. >>> >>> In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work in 50 countries >>> and pass between them with no restriction. >> >> Those are called States and the form together one country..... > > Doesn't matter what you call it, each has its own laws, its own > courts, and these days its own king. I was reacting at you phrase: >>> In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work >>> in 50 countries and pass between them with no restriction. It doesn't matter what I call it, or what you call it. It has a name: United STATES of America. And as far I know there are no kings in the USA. And in Europe every member of the EU is a country. Rink
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| From | J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-10 15:00 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <r663jf5k0ihmrbjvlbi3pe5msg74abteu3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #212634 |
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 16:01:17 +0200, Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote: >Op 9-8-2020 om 20:34 schreef J. Clarke: >> On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:09:41 +0200, Rink wrote: >>> Op 9-8-2020 om 19:18 schreef J. Clarke: >>>> On 9 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > ><snip> > >>>>>>> A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>>>>> Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting the >>>>>>> EU on an even basis with the US. >>>>>>> Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end the >>>>>>> curse of the Tower of Babel. >>>>>> >>>>>> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >>>>>> but with the execution. >>>>> >>>>> It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. >>>>> Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no >>>>> restriction. >>>> >>>> In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work in 50 countries >>>> and pass between them with no restriction. >>> >>> Those are called States and the form together one country..... >> >> Doesn't matter what you call it, each has its own laws, its own >> courts, and these days its own king. > > >I was reacting at you phrase: > >>> In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work > >>> in 50 countries and pass between them with no restriction. > >It doesn't matter what I call it, or what you call it. >It has a name: United STATES of America. > >And as far I know there are no kings in the USA. You haven't seen governors busily making and enforcing new laws without any regard to the legislature or the courts. >And in Europe every member of the EU is a country. OK, tell us how a "state" in the US is different from a "country" in the EU. Note, I live in the US, I know how the system works and I really don't like what I'm seeing happen right now.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2020-08-10 21:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20200810212536.1af90e3802b5f30e91e0f29d@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #212639 |
On Mon, 10 Aug 2020 15:00:16 -0400 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >And in Europe every member of the EU is a country. > > OK, tell us how a "state" in the US is different from a "country" in > the EU. There's a little matter of recognition by other countries, doing things like issuing passports (that are accepted), membership in international organisations (UN, NATO ...). Colorado isn't and can't be a UN member, France is. > Note, I live in the US, I know how the system works and I really don't > like what I'm seeing happen right now. AIUI the states were proto-nations at the time they combined to form the United States, they hadn't quite become nations or perhaps had only just become nations in some cases, they've been combined into the US for over two hundred years. The European nations OTOH had (for the most part) centuries of existence as independent nations (much of it spent fighting each other) before they decided to start the process that has led to the EU we see today. That process was started in the 1950s. It may well in the long term be seen as a difference of degree and timing rather than fundamental - but there are probably some who would rather see war than a United States of Europe today. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-10 12:33 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: EU, was Is the Eternal September over |
| Message-ID | <852651523.618780411.357205.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #212634 |
Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote: > Op 9-8-2020 om 20:34 schreef J. Clarke: >> On Sun, 9 Aug 2020 20:09:41 +0200, Rink wrote: >>> Op 9-8-2020 om 19:18 schreef J. Clarke: >>>> On 9 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote: > > <snip> > >>>>>>> A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>>>>> Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting the >>>>>>> EU on an even basis with the US. >>>>>>> Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end the >>>>>>> curse of the Tower of Babel. >>>>>> >>>>>> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >>>>>> but with the execution. >>>>> >>>>> It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. >>>>> Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no >>>>> restriction. >>>> >>>> In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work in 50 countries >>>> and pass between them with no restriction. >>> >>> Those are called States and the form together one country..... >> >> Doesn't matter what you call it, each has its own laws, its own >> courts, and these days its own king. > > > I was reacting at you phrase: >>>> In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work >>>> in 50 countries and pass between them with no restriction. > > It doesn't matter what I call it, or what you call it. > It has a name: United STATES of America. > > And as far I know there are no kings in the USA. > > > And in Europe every member of the EU is a country. > > Rink > No clear definition of state vs. nation va. country. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_(polity) The difference between the US and the EU is the amount of sovereignty the “states” have given up to the central authority. The EU is relatively centralized in some areas (product standards, etc.) and decentralized in others (no centralized armed forces - well, OK, they have something, but not a real army, and dependent of national contingents). It’s an experiment and no one knows how will it turn out. Will it become more centralized, and turn into a real country? Will it come apart? is it possible it can continue as it is? -- Pete
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 15:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <221412563.618704391.943642.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #212611 |
Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> wrote: > Op 9-8-2020 om 19:18 schreef J. Clarke: >> On 9 Aug 2020 15:15:22 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400, J. Clarke wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily due >>>>>>>>> to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not >>>>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the newsgroup >>>>>>>>> was really alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >>>>> >>>>> A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>>> Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting the >>>>> EU on an even basis with the US. >>>>> Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>>>> >>>>> I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end the >>>>> curse of the Tower of Babel. >>>> >>>> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >>>> but with the execution. >>> >>> It isn't perfect, but membership is a lot better than non-membership. >>> Being able to work i 28 countries and pass between them with no >>> restriction. >> >> In North America and parts of the Pacific you can work in 50 countries >> and pass between them with no restriction. >> > > > Those are called States and the form together one country..... > > The EU seems to have one foot firmly in each camp. It’s less than a country, but more than a confederation . -- Pete
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 17:41 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20200809174107.e97bcef6a7f97f297418f220@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #212599 |
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:09:29 -0400 J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept > but with the execution. Another thing about the EU is that many of its provisions are to the benefit of the individual people at the expense of the national governments. The Euro is a prime example - individuals and businesses benefit greatly from having a common currency across such a large area. Banks lose out on exchange fees and the split, national governments lose control over the currency their citizens use. I was working in one country, living in another and travelling through a third when the Euro came in - I felt the benefit immediately from not carrying three sets of change around, from not paying currency exchange fees and from not having my effective income vary unpredictably with currency fluctuations. Freedom of movement is another, people get to live and work wherever they like which means nations have less control over who gets to live and work in them. Many of the complaints about Europe tend to be of the form $COUNTRY suffers $PROBLEM because of Europe doing $THING, failing to observe that $THING can be of benefit to people and businesses in $COUNTRY who choose to take advantage of it. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 10:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1302477078.618684493.573341.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #212599 |
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >> >>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>> >>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com says... >>>>>> >>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>> >>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily due to >>>>>> the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not budge from >>>>>> their apparent conviction that the name of the newsgroup was really >>>>>> alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>> >>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>> >>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>> >>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >> >> A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >> Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict >> and putting the EU on an even basis with the US. >> Now if we could get a South American and an African union >> going. >> >> I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end >> the curse of the Tower of Babel. > > My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept > but with the execution. > It seems to me they can’t decide if they’re fish or fowl. -- Pete
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 14:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rgpght$ua4$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212599 |
J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: > On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >> >>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>> >>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com says... >>>>>> >>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>> >>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily due to >>>>>> the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not budge from >>>>>> their apparent conviction that the name of the newsgroup was really >>>>>> alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>> >>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>> >>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>> >>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >> >>A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict >>and putting the EU on an even basis with the US. >>Now if we could get a South American and an African union >>going. >> >>I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end >>the curse of the Tower of Babel. > > My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept > but with the execution. As far as I can tell, the major issue is Brexit. I suppose they can get by without England, but it's a major setback. -- Dan Espen
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 19:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hpb2fuFe99U21@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #212614 |
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 14:50:35 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>> >>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com >>>>>>> says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily >>>>>>> due to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not >>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the >>>>>>> newsgroup was really alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>>> >>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>>> >>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>>> >>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >>> >>>A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting >>>the EU on an even basis with the US. >>>Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>> >>>I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end >>>the curse of the Tower of Babel. >> >> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >> but with the execution. > > As far as I can tell, the major issue is Brexit. > I suppose they can get by without England, but it's a major setback. I think you mean "the UK". They might get Scotland back at some point, though. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/whats-difference-between- england-britain-and-uk-180959558/ NOt half as much as it is a setback for the UK, though. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-08-09 17:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <rgpog3$hm9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #212619 |
Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: > On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 14:50:35 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: > >> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 10:40:26 -0400, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 08:25:34 -0400, Dan Espen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 18:53:03 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In article <rgmj4m$tq3$1@dont-email.me>, dan1espen@gmail.com >>>>>>>> says... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, definitely not over. >>>>>>>>> Any doubt in your mind? Head over to alt.home.repair. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I gave up on alt.home.repair. Despite employing an aggressive >>>>>>>> killfile, the signal-to-noise ratio remained abysmal, primarily >>>>>>>> due to the gang of incurably loquacious knob-jockeys who would not >>>>>>>> budge from their apparent conviction that the name of the >>>>>>>> newsgroup was really alt.politics.home.repair. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WE have the same problem with uk.d-i-y ... >>>>>> >>>>>> From what I've seen, the uk groups are even worse. >>>>>> A huge amount of name calling and stalking. >>>>>> Must be that British humor at work, or all the posters are drunk. >>>>> >>>>> No, the Brexiteers are foaming at the mouth... >>>> >>>>A damn shame, the EU looks like a very good thing to me. >>>>Hopefully a way of ending centuries of European conflict and putting >>>>the EU on an even basis with the US. >>>>Now if we could get a South American and an African union going. >>>> >>>>I suppose Usenet, but more important the Internet can eventually end >>>>the curse of the Tower of Babel. >>> >>> My impression is that the problem with the EU is not with the concept >>> but with the execution. >> >> As far as I can tell, the major issue is Brexit. >> I suppose they can get by without England, but it's a major setback. > > I think you mean "the UK". They might get Scotland back at some point, > though. Yeah, we really can't figure it out over here. > https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/whats-difference-between- > england-britain-and-uk-180959558/ > > NOt half as much as it is a setback for the UK, though. Actually, I know, just a momentary lapse. My age is a wonderful excuse. Pretty soon my posts will really degenerate. The other day in my Internet travels I happened on a Scot, Janey Godley. Pretty funny but hard to understand. -- Dan Espen
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