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| Started by | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| First post | 2020-06-01 19:25 -0700 |
| Last post | 2020-07-05 16:35 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 197 — 32 participants |
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What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-01 19:25 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-06-02 07:49 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-02 00:26 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-02 00:35 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-02 08:18 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-02 02:45 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-02 02:57 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-06-02 10:06 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-02 11:52 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2020-06-02 12:18 -0400
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-06-02 11:31 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-02 05:05 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been daphne@panix.com (Daphne Eftychia Arthur) - 2020-06-03 18:09 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 14:01 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 17:54 -0700
Re: What ASCII actually is John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-04 02:11 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been daphne@panix.com (Daphne Eftychia Arthur) - 2020-06-04 03:05 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 20:26 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-04 07:06 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been daphne@panix.com (Daphne Eftychia Arthur) - 2020-06-04 03:27 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 20:31 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 20:41 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2020-06-06 02:22 +0800
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-05 11:33 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2020-06-06 13:58 +0800
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-06 11:10 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been robin.vowels@gmail.com - 2020-06-02 19:46 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-02 23:24 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-02 23:36 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-06-03 17:22 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 10:33 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-06-03 20:30 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 13:40 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-04 07:06 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-06-04 16:59 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-03 19:50 -0400
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 17:47 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-04 07:06 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-06-03 20:53 -0300
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-04 00:08 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-06-03 17:10 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 17:48 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-06-04 03:11 -0300
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-04 01:18 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-06-05 03:50 -0300
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-04 07:06 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-05 00:44 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-05 07:53 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-05 08:04 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-05 10:03 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2020-06-05 11:05 -0500
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-05 09:27 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-05 11:45 -0500
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-05 09:55 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-05 10:16 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-06-05 18:23 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-05 10:03 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-06-07 15:05 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-07 09:28 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-06-07 19:56 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-07 16:15 -0500
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-06-05 17:31 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-05 11:24 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been robin.vowels@gmail.com - 2020-06-05 15:02 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-05 17:40 -0500
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-06 00:10 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-05 19:44 -0500
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-06 01:54 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-05 10:03 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-05 11:57 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2020-06-06 11:15 -0500
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-06 11:10 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2020-06-06 16:14 -0500
Brest U-boat pens (was: Re: What ASCII Should Have Been "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2020-06-07 10:01 +0000
Re: Brest U-boat pens (was: Re: What ASCII Should Have Been "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2020-06-07 17:58 +0000
Re: Brest U-boat pens Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-07 15:54 -0500
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2020-06-06 19:12 -0400
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-06 19:40 -0400
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-07 01:22 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-06 22:22 -0500
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-06-07 10:46 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-07 07:58 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-06-07 15:37 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-07 21:52 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-06 19:44 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Alfred Falk <aefalk@telus.net> - 2020-06-07 03:11 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-02 23:25 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-02 23:27 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-06-03 10:40 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-06-03 12:05 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-03 13:08 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-06-03 15:47 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-03 17:20 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-06-03 17:26 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 10:35 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-03 18:03 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-06-03 19:27 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-03 18:38 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-03 13:41 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-03 21:15 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-06-04 00:25 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-04 07:06 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-04 07:06 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-06-05 18:27 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-05 12:00 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-06-07 16:52 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-07 10:21 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-07 11:03 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-06-07 19:08 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-07 13:00 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-07 16:09 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-06-09 09:18 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-09 07:22 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-09 11:51 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2020-06-09 15:40 -0400
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-09 16:25 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-06-10 06:52 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-10 10:22 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2020-06-10 14:26 -0400
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-06-10 20:54 +0000
Re: What the DEC-20 was, not ASCII Should Have Been John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-10 18:30 +0000
Re: What the DEC-20 was, not ASCII Should Have Been Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2020-06-11 19:01 -0400
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-06-10 19:35 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-06-11 12:59 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-11 07:59 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-06-11 17:31 +0000
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS robin.vowels@gmail.com - 2020-06-11 21:29 -0700
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-06-12 07:04 +0000
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-12 09:06 +0000
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS robin.vowels@gmail.com - 2020-06-12 05:32 -0700
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-12 14:11 +0100
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS => Alfred Morgan ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2020-06-12 13:41 +0000
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS => Alfred Morgan Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-12 14:33 +0000
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS => Alfred Morgan Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-12 16:14 +0100
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS => Alfred Morgan Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-12 16:07 +0100
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS => Alfred Morgan ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2020-06-12 16:59 +0000
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS => Alfred Morgan Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-12 10:31 -0700
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS => Alfred Morgan Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-06-12 20:33 +0100
Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-06-12 17:09 -0300
Re: Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-12 14:12 -0700
Re: Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-12 19:54 -0400
Re: Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-12 19:54 -0400
Re: Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-06-13 02:57 -0300
Re: Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-13 02:15 -0400
Re: Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-14 13:54 +0100
Re: Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-14 15:30 -0700
Re: Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-06-14 22:57 -0300
Re: Fun with X-raays (thread drift from BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING...) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2020-06-14 21:00 -0500
Re: Fun with X-rays robin.vowels@gmail.com - 2020-06-14 21:12 -0700
Re: Fun with X-rays JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2020-06-15 10:05 -0500
Re: Fun with X-rays Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-15 10:05 -0700
Re: Fun with X-rays Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-15 13:26 -0500
Re: Fun with X-rays John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-15 18:46 +0000
Re: Fun with X-rays J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-15 19:30 -0400
Re: Fun with X-rays Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-15 20:36 -0500
Re: Fun with X-rays J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-15 22:27 -0400
Re: Fun with X-rays Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-16 06:40 +0000
Re: Radium girls, not Fun with X-rays John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-15 17:29 +0000
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-12 07:49 -0700
Re: BATTERY RADIOS & STIRLING MOTORS robin.vowels@gmail.com - 2020-06-12 08:50 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2020-06-12 06:07 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-06-14 14:50 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2020-06-14 15:01 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-14 11:36 -0400
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-06-14 18:03 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-06-18 18:48 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-09 07:26 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-06-09 12:02 -0400
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-09 11:08 -0500
Subject line evolution Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-06-09 17:33 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-09 11:51 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-06-18 18:48 +0000
Re: fast emulators, not What ASCII Should Have Been John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-09 17:43 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-06-18 18:48 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-09 07:32 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-09 07:47 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-09 11:51 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-06-18 18:49 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-06-18 18:50 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-09 15:24 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-09 11:51 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been pechter@lakewoodmicro.com () - 2020-06-16 20:55 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-05 21:27 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-05 16:54 -0500
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-06-05 22:44 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-05 23:18 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been robin.vowels@gmail.com - 2020-06-03 16:37 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-06-04 05:23 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been robin.vowels@gmail.com - 2020-06-03 16:35 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2020-06-04 11:31 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-04 07:05 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-04 07:06 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-06-04 15:23 +0000
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-06-04 09:38 -0700
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-06-04 17:31 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-06-09 10:25 +0100
Re: What ASCII Should Have Been Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2020-07-05 16:35 -0700
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| From | Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2020-06-07 10:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rbid2b$1cnu$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #211823 |
On 07/06/2020 02:22, John Levine wrote: > In article <56aodfhl7gtn1d0nclk400q4e72a4ul7ds@4ax.com>, > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>> My Spanish teacher told us upfront that she was teaching us Castilian. >>> She explained that if you spoke Castilian to a native speaker, he >>> would think you were stuck up, but he would understand you. ... >> Seems to be somewhat universal. A friend of mine who grew up in an >> Arabic-speaking household ... > Same with German. Everyone learns formal Hochdeutch in school and > speaks a local version at home, which outsiders often can't > understand. You don't have to go that far; it's the same with English. "Everyone" learns a standard English, but even within England there are mutually incomprehensible versions spoken in major cities. The formal versions spoken in [eg] the UK, the USA, Australia and India would by now surely have diverged almost as far had it not been for the unifying influence of films and TV that keeps us all abreast of the changes. -- Andy Walker, Nottingham.
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-06-07 07:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2133755426.613234599.223841.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #211823 |
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > In article <56aodfhl7gtn1d0nclk400q4e72a4ul7ds@4ax.com>, > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>> My Spanish teacher told us upfront that she was teaching us Castilian. >>> She explained that if you spoke Castilian to a native speaker, he >>> would think you were stuck up, but he would understand you. ... > >> Seems to be somewhat universal. A friend of mine who grew up in an >> Arabic-speaking household ... > > Same with German. Everyone learns formal Hochdeutch in school and > speaks a local version at home, which outsiders often can't > understand. > Or British English. -- Pete
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2020-06-07 15:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rbj1j3$t56$2@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #211823 |
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> schrieb: > In article <56aodfhl7gtn1d0nclk400q4e72a4ul7ds@4ax.com>, > J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>>My Spanish teacher told us upfront that she was teaching us Castilian. >>>She explained that if you spoke Castilian to a native speaker, he >>>would think you were stuck up, but he would understand you. ... > >>Seems to be somewhat universal. A friend of mine who grew up in an >>Arabic-speaking household ... > > Same with German. Everyone learns formal Hochdeutch in school and > speaks a local version at home, which outsiders often can't > understand. Certainly not true, at least not in Germany. There are some dialects, but most of them are mutually understandable. TV has played a large role there. Switzerland, though... the written language of Switzerland is a variant of Hochdeutsch with smaller variations (they don't have a ß, for example, they use ss), and some words regarding administration are different. Their local dialects are almost impossible for Germans to understand, and there is enough variation in these dialects that some people from one part of German-speaking Switzerland have trouple understanding people from another part of German-speaking Switzerland. When the Swiss use messaging apps, they don't usually use the standard spelling, but a made-up variant of their own dialect. This can lead to people not undersanding each other's messages, which some people find rather amusing.
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| From | Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-06-07 21:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rbjk39$3ln$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #211822 |
On 07/06/2020 00:40, J. Clarke wrote: > On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 19:12:25 -0400, Joy Beeson > <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote: > >> On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 11:15:44 -0500, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The Spanish taught was more of a >>> formal version, as I found out when my ship docked in Spain. >>> >> My Spanish teacher told us upfront that she was teaching us Castilian. >> She explained that if you spoke Castilian to a native speaker, he >> would think you were stuck up, but he would understand you. If you >> spoke Mexican to a Cuban, or Argentinian to a Spaniard, he might not >> have any idea what you meant. >> >> But this was over sixty years ago. > > Seems to be somewhat universal. A friend of mine who grew up in an > Arabic-speaking household says that when she goes anywhere that isn't > populated by Arabs, the Arabic-speaking Muslims speak very formally. > She described it as being like in English she would say "Hey, dude, > 'sup" and they would come back with "Dear lady it is a great honor to > meet you, how may I be of service". > I'm experiencing similar difficulties in learning Welsh, between what is grammatically correct and what is actually said.
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-06-06 19:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9682945a-9782-4e32-b701-29f890dd1c99o@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #211821 |
On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 5:12:27 PM UTC-6, Joy Beeson wrote: > On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 11:15:44 -0500, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The Spanish taught was more of a > > formal version, as I found out when my ship docked in Spain. > > > My Spanish teacher told us upfront that she was teaching us Castilian. > She explained that if you spoke Castilian to a native speaker, he > would think you were stuck up, but he would understand you. If you > spoke Mexican to a Cuban, or Argentinian to a Spaniard, he might not > have any idea what you meant. > > But this was over sixty years ago. In Canada, our English-language schools use American textbooks to teach French. So we learn to speak French as it is spoken in the streets of Paris, and not as it is spoken in Quebec. John Savard
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| From | Alfred Falk <aefalk@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2020-06-07 03:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rbhlt0$mib$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #211824 |
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in news:9682945a-9782-4e32-b701-29f890dd1c99o@googlegroups.com: > On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 5:12:27 PM UTC-6, Joy Beeson wrote: >> On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 11:15:44 -0500, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > The Spanish taught was more of a >> > formal version, as I found out when my ship docked in Spain. >> > >> My Spanish teacher told us upfront that she was teaching us Castilian. >> She explained that if you spoke Castilian to a native speaker, he >> would think you were stuck up, but he would understand you. If you >> spoke Mexican to a Cuban, or Argentinian to a Spaniard, he might not >> have any idea what you meant. >> >> But this was over sixty years ago. > > In Canada, our English-language schools use American textbooks to teach > French. > > So we learn to speak French as it is spoken in the streets of Paris, > and not as it is spoken in Quebec. Hmm... It was more than half a century ago, but I had 5 years of French in school (Manitoba). The text books were all Canadian. The language taught was formal, but closer to Quebec. (One story in the books had a family going to France and the children discovering differences, like "Parquer le car" instead of "stationer l'auto".
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-06-02 23:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <bf23208b-b3b5-4e78-91ef-7801b008d9ef@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #211696 |
On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 8:46:02 PM UTC-6, robin...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 12:25:12 PM UTC+10, Quadibloc wrote: > > And yet, I allow _more_ special characters, not _less_, than we have in regular > > ASCII, by getting rid of all those control characters no one ever uses! > ASCII NULL, CR, LF, FF etc are commonly used. *Those* are control characters I kept. John Savard
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-06-02 23:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1429496d-ba4a-42e4-9e95-ee2537d9721a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #211696 |
On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 8:46:02 PM UTC-6, robin...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 12:25:12 PM UTC+10, Quadibloc wrote: > > Of course, Bob Bemer will hate me... I get rid of the backslash so that the 62 > > printables, excluding space, plus the 26 lower-case letters, will fit on a 44-key > > keyboard... and I use that code for a 'printable character escape' that allows > > text to be stored easily at 6 bits per character. > What? ASCII is 8 bits. ASCII is 7 bits. ISO 8859-1 is 8 bits, which is probably what you're thinking of. > > I also replaced [ and ] with | and the EBCDIC logical NOT so that ASCII would > > get along better with EBCDIC. > [ and ] are used by ALGOL. That's true, but Algol uses a lot of other characters too which aren't found in ASCII. While they're removed from the upper-case only subset, the square brackets along with a lot of the other Algol characters are made available in the alternate shifted letters set that occupies much of the control character space. John Savard
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| From | Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 10:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rb7r76$1lfh$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #211696 |
On 03/06/2020 03:46, robin.vowels@gmail.com wrote: > [ and ] are used by ALGOL. Yes, but at least [for the past 61 years anyway] it is not necessary to use "[...]". You can use "(...)" anywhere that "[...]" is expected [and also in place of "begin ... end", "case ... esac" and "if ... fi"]. Other languages may not be so "lucky". OTOH, as seen here, I like to use "[...]" for parenthetic remarks; easier to reach and type on my keyboard. -- Andy Walker, Nottingham.
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| From | Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 12:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rb8069$611$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #211703 |
On 03/06/2020 10:40, I wrote: > Yes, but at least [for the past 61 years anyway] [...] Or even 51 years, he corrects himself hastily before anyone notices. -- Andy Walker, Nottingham.
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 13:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hjplmmFi0eU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #211703 |
On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 10:40:54 +0100, Andy Walker wrote: > On 03/06/2020 03:46, robin.vowels@gmail.com wrote: >> [ and ] are used by ALGOL. > > Yes, but at least [for the past 61 years anyway] it is not > necessary to use "[...]". You can use "(...)" anywhere that "[...]" > is expected [and also in place of "begin ... end", "case ... esac" and > "if ... fi"]. Other languages may not be so "lucky". OTOH, > as seen here, I like to use "[...]" for parenthetic remarks; easier to > reach and type on my keyboard. But that is specifically ALGOL 68 - a very very different language. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 15:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rb8d62$qm1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #211705 |
On 03/06/2020 14:08, Bob Eager wrote: > But that is specifically ALGOL 68 - a very very different language. ??? Different from Algol 60, certainly; different from Algol? Do you feel the need to say of modern C that it is very very different from C, meaning that modern C is not the same as K&R C? Or that Fortran is very very different from Fortran when referring to modern features? -- Andy Walker, Nottingham.
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 17:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hjq4fhFi0eU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #211706 |
On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 15:47:31 +0100, Andy Walker wrote: > On 03/06/2020 14:08, Bob Eager wrote: >> But that is specifically ALGOL 68 - a very very different language. > > ??? Different from Algol 60, certainly; different from Algol? > Do you feel the need to say of modern C that it is very very different > from C, meaning that modern C is not the same as K&R C? Or that Fortran > is very very different from Fortran when referring to modern features? ALGOL 68 bore very little relation to its predecessor. The same can not be said of C. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 17:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rb8mgv$qm9$3@newsreader4.netcologne.de> |
| In reply to | #211708 |
Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> schrieb: > On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 15:47:31 +0100, Andy Walker wrote: > >> On 03/06/2020 14:08, Bob Eager wrote: >>> But that is specifically ALGOL 68 - a very very different language. >> >> ??? Different from Algol 60, certainly; different from Algol? >> Do you feel the need to say of modern C that it is very very different >> from C, meaning that modern C is not the same as K&R C? Or that Fortran >> is very very different from Fortran when referring to modern features? > > ALGOL 68 bore very little relation to its predecessor. The same can not > be said of C. I see a dangling else there... Do you mean that C bears some resemblance to Algol 60, or to B?
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 10:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9308aa4e-c2af-4969-b84a-d01c8a16103f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #211710 |
On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 11:26:56 AM UTC-6, Thomas Koenig wrote: > I see a dangling else there... > > Do you mean that C bears some resemblance to Algol 60, or to B? I think he means that C++ is closer to C than Algol 68 is to Algol 60. He just expressed it wrong. John Savard
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 18:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hjq70aFi0eU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #211712 |
On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 10:35:22 -0700, Quadibloc wrote: > On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 11:26:56 AM UTC-6, Thomas Koenig wrote: > >> I see a dangling else there... >> >> Do you mean that C bears some resemblance to Algol 60, or to B? > > I think he means that C++ is closer to C than Algol 68 is to Algol 60. > He just expressed it wrong. I never mentioned C++, and neither did Andy. He was comparing modern C to K&R C. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 19:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <rb8q33$1mfk$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #211708 |
On 03/06/2020 18:20, Bob Eager wrote: >>> But that is specifically ALGOL 68 - a very very different language. >> ??? Different from Algol 60, certainly; different from Algol? >> [...] > ALGOL 68 bore very little relation to its predecessor. The same can not > be said of C. Yes, but when someone says "Algol", do you automatically think of A60 or A68, and if the former, then why? You don't automatically [surely?] think of K&R C rather than C11 or C99 if someone mentions a feature of recent C's? If someone talks about IBM computers, do you complain if the topic doesn't apply to the 1620? -- Andy Walker, Nottingham.
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 18:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hjq908Fi0eU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #211716 |
On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 19:27:49 +0100, Andy Walker wrote: > On 03/06/2020 18:20, Bob Eager wrote: >>>> But that is specifically ALGOL 68 - a very very different language. >>> ??? Different from Algol 60, certainly; different from Algol? >>> [...] >> ALGOL 68 bore very little relation to its predecessor. The same can not >> be said of C. > > Yes, but when someone says "Algol", do you automatically think > of A60 or A68, and if the former, then why? Because it was used far more, and implemented on more systems, than ALGOL 60 ever was. In my experience, anyway. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 13:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <70c34109-d081-4b73-81e1-f7062a3185f5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #211717 |
On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 12:38:02 PM UTC-6, Bob Eager wrote: > Because it was used far more, and implemented on more systems, than ALGOL > 60 ever was. In my experience, anyway. I think you mean "than Algol 68 ever was". John Savard
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-06-03 21:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <hjqi6tFi0eU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #211720 |
On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 13:41:45 -0700, Quadibloc wrote: > On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 12:38:02 PM UTC-6, Bob Eager wrote: > >> Because it was used far more, and implemented on more systems, than >> ALGOL 60 ever was. In my experience, anyway. > > I think you mean "than Algol 68 ever was". I think I do! Oops. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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