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Nearly there, linuxing ...

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First post2016-06-29 15:11 +0100
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  Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 15:11 +0100
    Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-06-29 16:14 +0200
    Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 16:57 +0100
    Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-06-29 11:02 -0500
      Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-06-29 17:59 +0100
        Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2016-06-29 19:37 +0100
          Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-06-29 19:41 +0100
          Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 20:36 +0100
        Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:20 +0000
          Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-30 19:40 +0100
            Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-30 16:26 -0700
              Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-01 09:40 +0100
            Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-07-01 09:58 +0100
              Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-01 11:20 +0100
                Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-01 12:49 +0000
                Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-01 11:37 -0400
              Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-01 13:09 +0100
    Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> - 2016-06-30 09:06 +0100
      Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:22 +0000

#166121 — Nearly there, linuxing ...

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-29 15:11 +0100
SubjectNearly there, linuxing ...
Message-ID<nl0kue$4q4$1@dont-email.me>
In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names,
and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should
in fact be labelled "/".

Much googling has no revealed the answer.

Anyone here know the answer?

Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing
Windows XP.

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#166122

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-06-29 16:14 +0200
Message-ID<nl0l3l$i5n$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#166121
On 6/29/16 4:11 PM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names,
> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should
> in fact be labelled "/".
>
> Much googling has no revealed the answer.
>
> Anyone here know the answer?
>
> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing
> Windows XP.
>
>
In Linux, partitions are represented as block devices. eg : /dev/sda1
What you think is actually mount point.

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#166133

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-29 16:57 +0100
Message-ID<nl0r59$rmd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#166121
"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote in message 
news:nl0kue$4q4$1@dont-email.me...
> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names,
> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should
> in fact be labelled "/".
> Much googling has no revealed the answer.
> Anyone here know the answer?
> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing
> Windows XP.

All went well except that the menus.lst produced by puppy's version
of grub would not boot windows. So, resorting to the on-line manual,
copied verbatim what the manual said should be for the Windows boot
and now is all hunky dory!


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#166135

FromJon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>
Date2016-06-29 11:02 -0500
Message-ID<AN2dnXOz5_xjbe7KnZ2dnUU7-I3NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#166121
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:

> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names,
> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should
> in fact be labelled "/".
> 
> Much googling has no revealed the answer.
> 
> Anyone here know the answer?
> 
Yes, the "root directory" is /

The partition table is totally separate from the file system, in fact you 
can have several different file systems (Linux, Windows) on one disk in 
different partitions.  For quite some time Linux has been able to boot from 
a single partition, but there are some slight benefits to having the kernel 
and boot files in a separate partition/file system.  That would be the /boot
partiton/file system.  Also, most large desktop systems have a swap 
partition, which does not have a file system on it.

Not sure if I have added confusion with the above, hope not.

> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing
> Windows XP.

I have been using Ubuntu for a long time, and only run a couple CAD packages 
on XP via virtualbox, under the Linux system.  I've been using Linux since 
1998, my family has been using Linux pretty exclusively since the mid 
2000's, I think.

Jon

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#166147

From"Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Date2016-06-29 17:59 +0100
Message-ID<op.yjtv5izlmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup>
In reply to#166135
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:02:05 +0100, Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>  
wrote:

> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>
>> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names,
>> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should
>> in fact be labelled "/".
>>
>> Much googling has no revealed the answer.
>>
>> Anyone here know the answer?
>>
> Yes, the "root directory" is /
>
> The partition table is totally separate from the file system, in fact you
> can have several different file systems (Linux, Windows) on one disk in
> different partitions.  For quite some time Linux has been able to boot  
> from
> a single partition, but there are some slight benefits to having the  
> kernel
> and boot files in a separate partition/file system.  That would be the  
> /boot
> partiton/file system.  Also, most large desktop systems have a swap
> partition, which does not have a file system on it.
>
> Not sure if I have added confusion with the above, hope not.
>
>> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing
>> Windows XP.
>
> I have been using Ubuntu for a long time, and only run a couple CAD  
> packages
> on XP via virtualbox, under the Linux system.  I've been using Linux  
> since
> 1998, my family has been using Linux pretty exclusively since the mid
> 2000's, I think.
>
> Jon

Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo,  
who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll.

-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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#166156

FromMike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com>
Date2016-06-29 19:37 +0100
Message-ID<20160629193742.5113086d@amaterasu>
In reply to#166147
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:59:32 +0100
"Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo,  
> who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll.

Yup, this is collateral damage from the battles in the UK's radio
amateur "community".  They're poisoning a lot of wells.  OTOH gareth 
has been behaving much better in here than in other places, so I 
allow some slack.


Mike

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#166157

From"Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Date2016-06-29 19:41 +0100
Message-ID<op.yjt0vdztmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup>
In reply to#166156
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:37:42 +0100, Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com>  
wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:59:32 +0100
> "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>> Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo,
>> who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll.
>
> Yup, this is collateral damage from the battles in the UK's radio
> amateur "community".  They're poisoning a lot of wells.  OTOH gareth
> has been behaving much better in here than in other places, so I
> allow some slack.

That's generous of you, but once bitten, twice shy, is my motto.
He silently xposted, I think he knows what he's about, just stirring.




-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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#166164

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-29 20:36 +0100
Message-ID<nl180j$d52$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#166156
"Mike Causer" <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> wrote in message 
news:20160629193742.5113086d@amaterasu...
> Yup, this is collateral damage from the battles in the UK's radio
> amateur "community".  They're poisoning a lot of wells.  OTOH gareth
> has been behaving much better in here than in other places, so I
> allow some slack.

I have _ALWAYS_ behaved with the utmost propriety on Usenet
in the 22 years that I have been a subscriber. Do not confuse me
with the Mongolian Hordes of abusive 5-year-olds who cannot
disagree without introducing some rudeness or other and who
stalk me wherever I choose to post.



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#166202

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-06-30 18:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnnal73.1oi.mausg@Smaus.org>
In reply to#166147
On 2016-06-29, Kerr Mudd-John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:02:05 +0100, Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>
>>> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names,
>>> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should
>>> in fact be labelled "/".
>>>
>>> Much googling has no revealed the answer.
>>>
>>> Anyone here know the answer?
>>>
>> Yes, the "root directory" is /
>>
>> The partition table is totally separate from the file system, in fact you
>> can have several different file systems (Linux, Windows) on one disk in
>> different partitions.  For quite some time Linux has been able to boot  
>> from
>> a single partition, but there are some slight benefits to having the  
>> kernel
>> and boot files in a separate partition/file system.  That would be the  
>> /boot
>> partiton/file system.  Also, most large desktop systems have a swap
>> partition, which does not have a file system on it.
>>
>> Not sure if I have added confusion with the above, hope not.
>>
>>> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing
>>> Windows XP.
>>
>> I have been using Ubuntu for a long time, and only run a couple CAD  
>> packages
>> on XP via virtualbox, under the Linux system.  I've been using Linux  
>> since
>> 1998, my family has been using Linux pretty exclusively since the mid
>> 2000's, I think.
>>
>> Jon
>
> Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo,  
> who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll.
>
seconded.

-- 
greymaus.ireland.ie
 .
  .
...

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#166205

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-30 19:40 +0100
Message-ID<nl3p35$hpl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#166202
<mausg@mail.com> wrote in message news:slrnnnal73.1oi.mausg@Smaus.org...
> On 2016-06-29, Kerr Mudd-John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>> Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo,
>> who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll.
>>
> seconded.

With good reason, because of his repeated rudeness, Kerr Mudd John 
(Curmudgeon)
is KFed here.

But I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me but unfortunately there
are a number of you who respond childishly instead of merely voicing
a difference of opinion in a mature fashion.


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#166219

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2016-06-30 16:26 -0700
Message-ID<phabnb586ls3irprhp4u4g3r0b815g1cps@4ax.com>
In reply to#166205
On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 19:40:35 +0100, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339"
<no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:

[snip]

>But I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me but unfortunately there
>are a number of you who respond childishly instead of merely voicing
>a difference of opinion in a mature fashion.

     Pot-kettle-black.

     Continually haranguing others about how they are supposely
childish is not "voicing a difference of opinion in a mature fashion."

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#166228

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-07-01 09:40 +0100
Message-ID<nl5a9q$us$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#166219
"Gene Wirchenko" <genew@telus.net> wrote in message 
news:phabnb586ls3irprhp4u4g3r0b815g1cps@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 19:40:35 +0100, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339"
> <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>But I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me but unfortunately 
>>there
>>are a number of you who respond childishly instead of merely voicing
>>a difference of opinion in a mature fashion.
>
>     Pot-kettle-black.
>
>     Continually haranguing others about how they are supposely
> childish is not "voicing a difference of opinion in a mature fashion."

Nonsense. The way for the childish abusers to hold sway is if
the mature civilised adults remain silent.

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#166229

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2016-07-01 09:58 +0100
Message-ID<dtmpksFgjisU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#166205
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:

> I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me

Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've 
pissed-off so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ...

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#166232

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-07-01 11:20 +0100
Message-ID<nl5g4i$j0r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#166229
"Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message 
news:dtmpksFgjisU2@mid.individual.net...
> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>
>> I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me
>
> Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've pissed-off 
> so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ...

I fail to see how anybody could become pissed off by me.

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#166235

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-07-01 12:49 +0000
Message-ID<PM000536925DB1808D@aca42375.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#166232
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
> "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message
> news:dtmpksFgjisU2@mid.individual.net...
>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>
>>> I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me
>>
>> Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've pissed-off
>> so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ...
>
> I fail to see how anybody could become pissed off by me.
>
>
<snort>  Are you kidding?  I've told you; you still have not
reexamined your assumptions.

/BAH

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#166248

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2016-07-01 11:37 -0400
Message-ID<nl62ni$huh$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#166232
"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes:

> "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message 
> news:dtmpksFgjisU2@mid.individual.net...
>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>
>>> I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me
>>
>> Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've pissed-off 
>> so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ...
>
> I fail to see how anybody could become pissed off by me.

After your claim that you work on systems more complicated than
anyone I decided I'd just not respond.

I wouldn't say I was pissed off though.
Just not interested because you didn't offer any information.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#166233

From"Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Date2016-07-01 13:09 +0100
Message-ID<op.yjw715gfmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup>
In reply to#166229
On Fri, 01 Jul 2016 09:58:03 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>
>> I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me
>
> Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've  
> pissed-off so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ...
>

PDFTT. Or if you do want to, ura (sometimes spelt ukra) is over there -->

-- 
Bah, and indeed, Humbug

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#166184

FromAndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com>
Date2016-06-30 09:06 +0100
Message-ID<5q4dz.73133$S64.61176@fx11.fr7>
In reply to#166121
On 29/06/2016 15:11, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names,
> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should
> in fact be labelled "/".
>
> Much googling has no revealed the answer.
>
> Anyone here know the answer?
>
> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing
> Windows XP.
>

Your disks sit under the /dev/ directory and should be named 
sda/sdb/sdc/... and the active partitions on this disk are normally 
should be sequentially numbered under the disk ID sda1/sda2/sda3/...

/ is not a partition your patition tables and directiory tables are 
different things.

/ is your root directory, all other directories sit under this.

You can physically put /home somewhere else and symbolically link it to 
/. I usually have a dedicated /home partition for ease for backup. 
Additionally I have a swap partition that is 2 or 3 times the size of my 
RAM.

Andy

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#166203

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-06-30 18:22 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnnalbb.1oi.mausg@Smaus.org>
In reply to#166184
On 2016-06-30, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote:
> On 29/06/2016 15:11, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names,
>> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should
>> in fact be labelled "/".
>>
>> Much googling has no revealed the answer.
>>
>> Anyone here know the answer?
>>
>> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing
>> Windows XP.
>>
>
> Your disks sit under the /dev/ directory and should be named 
> sda/sdb/sdc/... and the active partitions on this disk are normally 
> should be sequentially numbered under the disk ID sda1/sda2/sda3/...
>
> / is not a partition your patition tables and directiory tables are 
> different things.
>
> / is your root directory, all other directories sit under this.
>
> You can physically put /home somewhere else and symbolically link it to 
> /. I usually have a dedicated /home partition for ease for backup. 
> Additionally I have a swap partition that is 2 or 3 times the size of my 
> RAM.
>
> Andy
>

You have /home symbolically linked to `/'?.. Hmmm?


-- 
greymaus.ireland.ie
 .
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...

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