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BLISS

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First post2016-06-05 16:10 +0100
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  BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-05 16:10 +0100
    Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-05 15:25 +0000
    Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-05 12:25 -0400
      Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-05 18:41 +0100
    Re: BLISS Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-05 12:20 -0700
      Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-05 23:08 +0100
        Re: BLISS Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-06 07:38 +0200
          Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-06 09:33 +0100
            Re: BLISS Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-06 13:05 +0200
              Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-06 13:35 +0000
              Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-06 14:54 +0100
                Re: BLISS Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-06 08:03 -0700
                  Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-06 16:07 +0100
                    Re: BLISS Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-06 08:11 -0700
                      Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-07 12:11 +0000
                    Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-08 02:31 -0700
                      Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 10:26 +0000
                      Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 12:01 +0100
                  Re: BLISS scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-06 16:48 +0000
                  Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-07 16:14 -0400
        Re: BLISS JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 14:16 -0500
    Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-06 13:35 +0000
    Re: BLISS usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-06-07 21:04 +0000
      Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-07 22:30 +0000
        Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 10:23 +0100
          Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 10:24 +0000
        Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-08 12:09 +0000
          Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 12:27 +0000
          Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-08 07:48 -0700
            Re: BLISS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-08 15:21 +0000
            Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-08 11:50 -0400
              Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-08 09:32 -0700
              Re: BLISS - broken bar Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-08 15:35 -0400
                Re: BLISS - broken bar Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-09 10:52 -0400
                Re: BLISS - broken bar Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2016-06-09 20:11 +0000
                  Re: BLISS - broken bar Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-10 06:45 -0400
            Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-09 12:25 +0000
              Re: BLISS Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-09 10:23 -0500
                Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-09 08:49 -0700
              Re: BLISS "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 20:07 -0400
                Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-09 19:11 -0700
                  Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-09 19:16 -0700
        Re: BLISS "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-06-11 10:09 -0500
          Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-11 16:05 +0000
            Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-11 19:27 +0100
              Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-11 18:46 +0000
            Re: BLISS "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-06-12 09:45 -0500
      Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 10:21 +0100
      Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-08 07:26 -0400
        Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 11:33 +0000
          Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 13:30 +0100
            Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 14:07 +0000
              Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 15:39 +0100
                Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-08 07:56 -0700
                  Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-08 11:50 -0400
                Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 15:27 +0000
                Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-08 11:50 -0400
                  Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 17:13 +0100
                  Re: BLISS mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-09 09:37 +0000
                    Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-09 10:52 -0400
                Re: BLISS Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-06-28 18:53 -0400
                  Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-28 19:47 -0400
                    Re: BLISS "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 20:00 -0400
                      Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 09:19 +0100
                        Re: BLISS "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 04:43 -0400
                  Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 09:17 +0100
                    Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-12 17:07 -0700
                      Re: BLISS mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-13 14:22 +0000
                        Re: BLISS mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-13 14:41 +0000
                          Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-13 16:50 +0100
                            Re: BLISS mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-13 19:24 +0000
                              Re: BLISS Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-07-13 23:13 +0000
                            Re: BLISS Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-07-14 06:06 +0100
                              Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-14 09:12 +0100
              Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-08 15:42 +0100
                Re: BLISS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-08 15:21 +0000
                  Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 16:44 +0100
                  Re: BLISS "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-06-11 10:19 -0500
                    Re: BLISS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-13 16:20 +0000
                Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 15:28 +0000
          Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-08 14:40 +0100
            Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 14:08 +0000
            Re: BLISS Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-07-12 19:15 -0400
              Re: BLISS David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 17:39 +0100
        Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 13:29 +0100

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#164594 — BLISS

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-05 16:10 +0100
SubjectBLISS
Message-ID<nj1fdd$li5$1@dont-email.me>
Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time.

Interesting the dot notation to cause a variable name dereference in sharp
contrast to the C technique of using "&" to force a reference!

I wonder how many bugs came about in BLISS programs because of
the unnatural need to use dot compared to other languages?

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#164595

FromBob Eager <news0006@eager.cx>
Date2016-06-05 15:25 +0000
Message-ID<driuj6FmspuU48@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#164594
On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 16:10:31 +0100, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:

> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first
> time.
> 
> Interesting the dot notation to cause a variable name dereference in
> sharp contrast to the C technique of using "&" to force a reference!

The C technique dates back to at least as early as 1964 or so. It was 
present in BCPL, although that used @ rather than &.



-- 
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#164601

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-06-05 12:25 -0400
Message-ID<480718640.486836623.647027.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#164594
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time.
> 
> Interesting the dot notation to cause a variable name dereference in sharp
> contrast to the C technique of using "&" to force a reference!
> 
> I wonder how many bugs came about in BLISS programs because of
> the unnatural need to use dot compared to other languages?
> 

You're looking at it as a C programmer.  A BLISS programmer would probably
say the '&' is unnatural.

-- 
Pete

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#164612

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-05 18:41 +0100
Message-ID<nj1o99$43g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#164601
"Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:480718640.486836623.647027.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org...
> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time.
>>
>> Interesting the dot notation to cause a variable name dereference in 
>> sharp
>> contrast to the C technique of using "&" to force a reference!
>>
>> I wonder how many bugs came about in BLISS programs because of
>> the unnatural need to use dot compared to other languages?
>>
>
> You're looking at it as a C programmer.  A BLISS programmer would probably
> say the '&' is unnatural.

Not at all. I look at it as a programmer with experience in FORTRAN, many
assemblers, CORAL, RTL/2, PASCAL, PLM51, PLM86, BASIC in its
many manifestations. and C, amongst others.


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#164620

FromAl Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org>
Date2016-06-05 12:20 -0700
Message-ID<nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#164594
On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time.
> 

ELUDOM barada nikto




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#164635

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-05 23:08 +0100
Message-ID<nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#164620
"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message 
news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me...
> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time.
>>
>
> ELUDOM barada nikto

Eh?  Wot?

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#164637

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2016-06-06 07:38 +0200
Message-ID<4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#164635
In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>,
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message 
>news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time.
>>>
>>
>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>
>Eh?  Wot?

ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"

-- mrr

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#164640

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-06 09:33 +0100
Message-ID<nj3che$v8o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#164637
"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
news:4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
> In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>,
> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message
>>news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first 
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>>
>>Eh?  Wot?
>
> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"

Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The
Earth Stood Still.


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#164656

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2016-06-06 13:05 +0200
Message-ID<h02g2d-0b1.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#164640
In article <nj3che$v8o$1@dont-email.me>,
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>> In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>,
>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message
>>>news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first 
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>>>
>>>Eh?  Wot?
>>
>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"
>
>Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The
>Earth Stood Still.

That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough
to me.

-- mrr

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#164663

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-06-06 13:35 +0000
Message-ID<PM0005349BFC7B1BC3@aca407c0.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#164656
Morten Reistad wrote:
> In article <nj3che$v8o$1@dont-email.me>,
> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>>> In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>>>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>>>>
>>>>Eh?  Wot?
>>>
>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"
>>
>>Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The
>>Earth Stood Still.
>
> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough
> to me.

ROTFLMAO.

/BAH

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#164674

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-06 14:54 +0100
Message-ID<nj3va7$1mo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#164656
"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
news:h02g2d-0b1.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
> In article <nj3che$v8o$1@dont-email.me>,
> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>>> In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>,
>>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
>>>>"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>>>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first
>>>>>> time.
>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>>>>Eh?  Wot?
>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"
>>Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The
>>Earth Stood Still.
>
> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough
> to me.

Are you going to let on?

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#164677

FromAl Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org>
Date2016-06-06 08:03 -0700
Message-ID<nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#164674
On 6/6/16 6:54 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:

>>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>>>>> Eh?  Wot?
>>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"
>>> Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The
>>> Earth Stood Still.
>>
>> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough
>> to me.
> 
> Are you going to let on?
> 
> 

BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie.

MODULE
...
...
ELUDOM

I thought that was pretty weird when I ran into that in the late 70's

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#164678

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-06 16:07 +0100
Message-ID<nj43kf$i9s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#164677
"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message 
news:nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me...
> On 6/6/16 6:54 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>>>>>> Eh?  Wot?
>>>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"
>>>> Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The
>>>> Earth Stood Still.
>>> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough
>>> to me.
>> Are you going to let on?
> BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie.
>
> MODULE
> ...
> ...
> ELUDOM

Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in BLISS?

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#164679

FromAl Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org>
Date2016-06-06 08:11 -0700
Message-ID<nj43qd$ija$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#164678
On 6/6/16 8:07 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:

> Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in BLISS?
> 

I'm sure Barb will talk your ear off about how bad BLISS was to use on a 10.

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#164725

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-06-07 12:11 +0000
Message-ID<PM000534AF0DA0E75E@aca202b4.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#164679
Al Kossow wrote:
> On 6/6/16 8:07 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>
>> Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in
BLISS?
>>
>
> I'm sure Barb will talk your ear off about how bad BLISS was to use on a 10.
>
>
There are people who loved BLISS and used it well.  My realtionship with
the language always created a PITA and I didn't write a line a code.
The New BLISS was worse than BLISS-10; there was no such thing as
a clean build.

/BAH

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#164783

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2016-06-08 02:31 -0700
Message-ID<56618bf0-7175-4a92-b8c0-6ced608c3689@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#164678
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-6, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
> "Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message 
> news:nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me...

> > BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie.

> > MODULE
> > ...
> > ...
> > ELUDOM

> Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in BLISS?

I would suppose that since "eludom" looks like gibberish, the allusion to 
Klaatu was intended to poke gentle fun at the use of such strange-looking words 
in Bliss. Of course, it wasn't only BLISS that did this - as the ESAC of Algol 
68 makes clear.

John Savard

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#164785

FromBob Eager <news0006@eager.cx>
Date2016-06-08 10:26 +0000
Message-ID<drqa7eFc6elU28@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#164783
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016 02:31:20 -0700, Quadibloc wrote:

> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-6, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339
> wrote:
>> "Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message
>> news:nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me...
> 
>> > BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie.
> 
>> > MODULE ...
>> > ...
>> > ELUDOM
> 
>> Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in
>> BLISS?
> 
> I would suppose that since "eludom" looks like gibberish, the allusion
> to Klaatu was intended to poke gentle fun at the use of such
> strange-looking words in Bliss. Of course, it wasn't only BLISS that did
> this - as the ESAC of Algol 68 makes clear.

Although with Algol 68 you could avoid using CASE...ESAC by using (...) 
instead, although rather less readable!



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#164786

From"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid>
Date2016-06-08 12:01 +0100
Message-ID<nj8tv8$6hp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#164783
"Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message 
news:56618bf0-7175-4a92-b8c0-6ced608c3689@googlegroups.com...
> On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-6, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 
> wrote:
>> "Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message
>> news:nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me...
>
>> > BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie.
>
>> > MODULE
>> > ...
>> > ...
>> > ELUDOM
>
>> Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in 
>> BLISS?
>
> I would suppose that since "eludom" looks like gibberish, the allusion to
> Klaatu was intended to poke gentle fun at the use of such strange-looking 
> words
> in Bliss. Of course, it wasn't only BLISS that did this - as the ESAC of 
> Algol
> 68 makes clear.

SDRAWKCAB, in fact.

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#164689

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2016-06-06 16:48 +0000
Message-ID<rPh5z.151$G_1.63@fx15.iad>
In reply to#164677
Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> writes:
>On 6/6/16 6:54 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>
>>>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>>>>>> Eh?  Wot?
>>>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"
>>>> Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The
>>>> Earth Stood Still.
>>>
>>> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough
>>> to me.
>> 
>> Are you going to let on?
>> 
>> 
>
>BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie.
>
>MODULE
>...
>...
>ELUDOM
>
>I thought that was pretty weird when I ran into that in the late 70's
>

Burroughs did this with a couple of languages, including the systems
programming language SPRITE that was used for the MCP.

e.g.

ssp_initialize
PROC

VAR
    base_ptr     DAT_POINTER := ioat_ptrs.first_element,
    ch_ptr       PTR TO CHANNEL_TABLE_ENTRY := nil,
    search_done  BOOLEAN := false;
    
    DO
       FIND ioat_ptr OVER base_ptr..ioat_ptrs.last_element
         INTO ioat_ptrs.base@
         WHERE ioat_ptr@.primary_hardware_type = shared_system_processor
       THEN
           ch_ptr := ptr(channel_table_ptrs.base@[ioat_ptr@.primary_channel_number]);
           ch_ptr@.flags.good_firmware_file := false;

           IF ^q2.ten_digit_result_descriptor.exceptions_exist
           THEN
              ...
           FI;
       ELSE
           search_done := true;
       DNIF;
    OD UNTIL search_done;
CORP;

(The FIND verb generated the 'SLT' (Search Linked List) instruction).

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#164746

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-06-07 16:14 -0400
Message-ID<1198122265.486934549.583079.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#164677
Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote:
> On 6/6/16 6:54 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>>>>>> Eh?  Wot?
>>>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"
>>>> Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The
>>>> Earth Stood Still.
>>> 
>>> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough
>>> to me.
>> 
>> Are you going to let on?
>> 
>> 
> 
> BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie.
> 
> MODULE
> ...
> ...
> ELUDOM
> 
> I thought that was pretty weird when I ran into that in the late 70's
> 
> 

This is also an ALGOL-68 "feature".


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Pete

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