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BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-05 16:10 +0100
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-05 15:25 +0000
Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-05 12:25 -0400
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-05 18:41 +0100
Re: BLISS Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-05 12:20 -0700
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-05 23:08 +0100
Re: BLISS Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-06 07:38 +0200
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-06 09:33 +0100
Re: BLISS Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-06 13:05 +0200
Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-06 13:35 +0000
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-06 14:54 +0100
Re: BLISS Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-06 08:03 -0700
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-06 16:07 +0100
Re: BLISS Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-06 08:11 -0700
Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-07 12:11 +0000
Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-08 02:31 -0700
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 10:26 +0000
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 12:01 +0100
Re: BLISS scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-06 16:48 +0000
Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-07 16:14 -0400
Re: BLISS JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-06 14:16 -0500
Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-06 13:35 +0000
Re: BLISS usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-06-07 21:04 +0000
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-07 22:30 +0000
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 10:23 +0100
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 10:24 +0000
Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-08 12:09 +0000
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 12:27 +0000
Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-08 07:48 -0700
Re: BLISS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-08 15:21 +0000
Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-08 11:50 -0400
Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-08 09:32 -0700
Re: BLISS - broken bar Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-08 15:35 -0400
Re: BLISS - broken bar Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-09 10:52 -0400
Re: BLISS - broken bar Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2016-06-09 20:11 +0000
Re: BLISS - broken bar Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-10 06:45 -0400
Re: BLISS jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-09 12:25 +0000
Re: BLISS Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-09 10:23 -0500
Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-09 08:49 -0700
Re: BLISS "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-09 20:07 -0400
Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-09 19:11 -0700
Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-09 19:16 -0700
Re: BLISS "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-06-11 10:09 -0500
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-11 16:05 +0000
Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-11 19:27 +0100
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-11 18:46 +0000
Re: BLISS "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-06-12 09:45 -0500
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 10:21 +0100
Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-08 07:26 -0400
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 11:33 +0000
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 13:30 +0100
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 14:07 +0000
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 15:39 +0100
Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-08 07:56 -0700
Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-08 11:50 -0400
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 15:27 +0000
Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-08 11:50 -0400
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 17:13 +0100
Re: BLISS mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-09 09:37 +0000
Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-09 10:52 -0400
Re: BLISS Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-06-28 18:53 -0400
Re: BLISS Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-28 19:47 -0400
Re: BLISS "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-28 20:00 -0400
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 09:19 +0100
Re: BLISS "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-29 04:43 -0400
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 09:17 +0100
Re: BLISS Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-12 17:07 -0700
Re: BLISS mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-13 14:22 +0000
Re: BLISS mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-13 14:41 +0000
Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-13 16:50 +0100
Re: BLISS mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-13 19:24 +0000
Re: BLISS Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-07-13 23:13 +0000
Re: BLISS Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-07-14 06:06 +0100
Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-14 09:12 +0100
Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-08 15:42 +0100
Re: BLISS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-08 15:21 +0000
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 16:44 +0100
Re: BLISS "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-06-11 10:19 -0500
Re: BLISS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-13 16:20 +0000
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 15:28 +0000
Re: BLISS Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-08 14:40 +0100
Re: BLISS Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-06-08 14:08 +0000
Re: BLISS Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-07-12 19:15 -0400
Re: BLISS David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 17:39 +0100
Re: BLISS "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-08 13:29 +0100
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-05 16:10 +0100 |
| Subject | BLISS |
| Message-ID | <nj1fdd$li5$1@dont-email.me> |
Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time. Interesting the dot notation to cause a variable name dereference in sharp contrast to the C technique of using "&" to force a reference! I wonder how many bugs came about in BLISS programs because of the unnatural need to use dot compared to other languages?
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| From | Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2016-06-05 15:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <driuj6FmspuU48@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #164594 |
On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 16:10:31 +0100, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first > time. > > Interesting the dot notation to cause a variable name dereference in > sharp contrast to the C technique of using "&" to force a reference! The C technique dates back to at least as early as 1964 or so. It was present in BCPL, although that used @ rather than &. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-05 12:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <480718640.486836623.647027.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #164594 |
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: > Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time. > > Interesting the dot notation to cause a variable name dereference in sharp > contrast to the C technique of using "&" to force a reference! > > I wonder how many bugs came about in BLISS programs because of > the unnatural need to use dot compared to other languages? > You're looking at it as a C programmer. A BLISS programmer would probably say the '&' is unnatural. -- Pete
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-05 18:41 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nj1o99$43g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #164601 |
"Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:480718640.486836623.647027.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org... > gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time. >> >> Interesting the dot notation to cause a variable name dereference in >> sharp >> contrast to the C technique of using "&" to force a reference! >> >> I wonder how many bugs came about in BLISS programs because of >> the unnatural need to use dot compared to other languages? >> > > You're looking at it as a C programmer. A BLISS programmer would probably > say the '&' is unnatural. Not at all. I look at it as a programmer with experience in FORTRAN, many assemblers, CORAL, RTL/2, PASCAL, PLM51, PLM86, BASIC in its many manifestations. and C, amongst others.
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| From | Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> |
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| Date | 2016-06-05 12:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #164594 |
On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time. > ELUDOM barada nikto
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-05 23:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #164620 |
"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me... > On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time. >> > > ELUDOM barada nikto Eh? Wot?
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-06 07:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #164635 |
In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message >news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me... >> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first time. >>> >> >> ELUDOM barada nikto > >Eh? Wot? ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!" -- mrr
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-06 09:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nj3che$v8o$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #164637 |
"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message news:4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... > In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>, > gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >>"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message >>news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me... >>> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >>>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first >>>> time. >>>> >>> >>> ELUDOM barada nikto >> >>Eh? Wot? > > ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!" Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The Earth Stood Still.
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-06 13:05 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <h02g2d-0b1.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #164640 |
In article <nj3che$v8o$1@dont-email.me>, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message >news:4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... >> In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>, >> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >>>"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message >>>news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me... >>>> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >>>>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first >>>>> time. >>>>> >>>> >>>> ELUDOM barada nikto >>> >>>Eh? Wot? >> >> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!" > >Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The >Earth Stood Still. That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough to me. -- mrr
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-06 13:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM0005349BFC7B1BC3@aca407c0.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #164656 |
Morten Reistad wrote: > In article <nj3che$v8o$1@dont-email.me>, > gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message >>news:4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... >>> In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>, >>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >>>>"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message >>>>news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me... >>>>> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >>>>>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first >>>>>> time. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto >>>> >>>>Eh? Wot? >>> >>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!" >> >>Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The >>Earth Stood Still. > > That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough > to me. ROTFLMAO. /BAH
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-06 14:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nj3va7$1mo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #164656 |
"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message news:h02g2d-0b1.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... > In article <nj3che$v8o$1@dont-email.me>, > gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message >>news:4sef2d-em.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... >>> In article <nj27sa$s2g$1@dont-email.me>, >>> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >>>>"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message >>>>news:nj1u1t$oki$1@dont-email.me... >>>>> On 6/5/16 8:10 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >>>>>> Inspired by the PL/I thread, I've had a look at BLISS for the first >>>>>> time. >>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto >>>>Eh? Wot? >>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!" >>Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The >>Earth Stood Still. > > That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough > to me. Are you going to let on?
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| From | Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> |
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| Date | 2016-06-06 08:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #164674 |
On 6/6/16 6:54 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto >>>>> Eh? Wot? >>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!" >>> Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The >>> Earth Stood Still. >> >> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough >> to me. > > Are you going to let on? > > BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie. MODULE ... ... ELUDOM I thought that was pretty weird when I ran into that in the late 70's
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-06 16:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nj43kf$i9s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #164677 |
"Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message news:nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me... > On 6/6/16 6:54 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >>>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto >>>>>> Eh? Wot? >>>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!" >>>> Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The >>>> Earth Stood Still. >>> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough >>> to me. >> Are you going to let on? > BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie. > > MODULE > ... > ... > ELUDOM Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in BLISS?
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| From | Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> |
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| Date | 2016-06-06 08:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <nj43qd$ija$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #164678 |
On 6/6/16 8:07 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in BLISS? > I'm sure Barb will talk your ear off about how bad BLISS was to use on a 10.
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-07 12:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM000534AF0DA0E75E@aca202b4.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #164679 |
Al Kossow wrote: > On 6/6/16 8:07 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > >> Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in BLISS? >> > > I'm sure Barb will talk your ear off about how bad BLISS was to use on a 10. > > There are people who loved BLISS and used it well. My realtionship with the language always created a PITA and I didn't write a line a code. The New BLISS was worse than BLISS-10; there was no such thing as a clean build. /BAH
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-06-08 02:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <56618bf0-7175-4a92-b8c0-6ced608c3689@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #164678 |
On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-6, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > "Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message > news:nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me... > > BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie. > > MODULE > > ... > > ... > > ELUDOM > Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in BLISS? I would suppose that since "eludom" looks like gibberish, the allusion to Klaatu was intended to poke gentle fun at the use of such strange-looking words in Bliss. Of course, it wasn't only BLISS that did this - as the ESAC of Algol 68 makes clear. John Savard
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| From | Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2016-06-08 10:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <drqa7eFc6elU28@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #164783 |
On Wed, 08 Jun 2016 02:31:20 -0700, Quadibloc wrote: > On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-6, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 > wrote: >> "Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message >> news:nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me... > >> > BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie. > >> > MODULE ... >> > ... >> > ELUDOM > >> Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in >> BLISS? > > I would suppose that since "eludom" looks like gibberish, the allusion > to Klaatu was intended to poke gentle fun at the use of such > strange-looking words in Bliss. Of course, it wasn't only BLISS that did > this - as the ESAC of Algol 68 makes clear. Although with Algol 68 you could avoid using CASE...ESAC by using (...) instead, although rather less readable! -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-08 12:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nj8tv8$6hp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #164783 |
"Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:56618bf0-7175-4a92-b8c0-6ced608c3689@googlegroups.com... > On Monday, June 6, 2016 at 9:08:00 AM UTC-6, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 > wrote: >> "Al Kossow" <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote in message >> news:nj43bc$g0e$1@dont-email.me... > >> > BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie. > >> > MODULE >> > ... >> > ... >> > ELUDOM > >> Fairy Nuff; and the allusion to Klaatu? To warn me off an interest in >> BLISS? > > I would suppose that since "eludom" looks like gibberish, the allusion to > Klaatu was intended to poke gentle fun at the use of such strange-looking > words > in Bliss. Of course, it wasn't only BLISS that did this - as the ESAC of > Algol > 68 makes clear. SDRAWKCAB, in fact.
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-06 16:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <rPh5z.151$G_1.63@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #164677 |
Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> writes:
>On 6/6/16 6:54 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>
>>>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto
>>>>>> Eh? Wot?
>>>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!"
>>>> Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The
>>>> Earth Stood Still.
>>>
>>> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough
>>> to me.
>>
>> Are you going to let on?
>>
>>
>
>BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie.
>
>MODULE
>...
>...
>ELUDOM
>
>I thought that was pretty weird when I ran into that in the late 70's
>
Burroughs did this with a couple of languages, including the systems
programming language SPRITE that was used for the MCP.
e.g.
ssp_initialize
PROC
VAR
base_ptr DAT_POINTER := ioat_ptrs.first_element,
ch_ptr PTR TO CHANNEL_TABLE_ENTRY := nil,
search_done BOOLEAN := false;
DO
FIND ioat_ptr OVER base_ptr..ioat_ptrs.last_element
INTO ioat_ptrs.base@
WHERE ioat_ptr@.primary_hardware_type = shared_system_processor
THEN
ch_ptr := ptr(channel_table_ptrs.base@[ioat_ptr@.primary_channel_number]);
ch_ptr@.flags.good_firmware_file := false;
IF ^q2.ten_digit_result_descriptor.exceptions_exist
THEN
...
FI;
ELSE
search_done := true;
DNIF;
OD UNTIL search_done;
CORP;
(The FIND verb generated the 'SLT' (Search Linked List) instruction).
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-07 16:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1198122265.486934549.583079.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #164677 |
Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote: > On 6/6/16 6:54 AM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > >>>>>>> ELUDOM barada nikto >>>>>> Eh? Wot? >>>>> ITHM "Safeword! Safeword!" >>>> Still none the wiser although ISTR part of the phrase from The Day The >>>> Earth Stood Still. >>> >>> That he writes this as soon as Bliss is brought up is clear enough >>> to me. >> >> Are you going to let on? >> >> > > BLISS uses the inverse of a keyword to end a range, ie. > > MODULE > ... > ... > ELUDOM > > I thought that was pretty weird when I ran into that in the late 70's > > This is also an ALGOL-68 "feature". -- Pete
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