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What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer?

Started byNeo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com>
First post2016-05-06 02:04 -0700
Last post2016-05-17 20:05 -0400
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  What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Neo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 02:04 -0700
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-05-06 11:00 -0500
      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-06 16:34 +0000
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-06 18:20 +0100
          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-07 07:12 +0000
            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-05-11 14:55 -0400
              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2016-05-11 19:20 +0000
              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-11 21:16 +0200
          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-07 13:14 +0000
      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-07 20:18 -0700
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-08 04:22 +0000
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-05-07 21:46 -0700
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-08 06:58 +0100
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 07:31 -0400
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-06 12:32 -0400
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 02:30 +1000
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2016-05-06 17:19 +0000
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-06 19:41 +0200
      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Neo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 02:43 -0700
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-09 06:58 -0700
          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-09 17:05 +0000
            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-10 12:34 +0000
              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-05-11 14:38 -0400
                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-11 21:13 +0200
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2016-05-12 12:50 +0100
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-12 17:49 +0000
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2016-05-13 12:10 +0100
                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-12 13:04 +0000
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-13 11:18 -0700
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-15 14:09 +0000
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-05-15 21:53 +0100
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-16 12:12 +0000
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-16 06:16 -0700
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-17 12:32 +0000
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-17 10:22 -0500
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-18 07:32 -0400
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-18 12:28 +0000
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-18 19:23 +0000
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-18 20:15 -0400
                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-19 08:06 +0100
                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-19 12:27 +0000
                                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-19 14:41 -0400
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-19 12:27 +0000
                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-21 04:59 -0700
                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-22 13:15 +0000
                                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-23 20:14 -0500
                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-05-24 04:45 +0000
                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-24 12:11 +0000
                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-24 14:19 +0100
                                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-25 13:11 +0000
                                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-25 09:22 -0700
                                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-25 17:31 +0100
                                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-05-26 21:41 +0000
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-18 23:19 +0100
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-19 12:27 +0000
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-16 06:17 -0700
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-23 20:16 -0500
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-05-16 20:08 +0100
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-17 12:32 +0000
          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-09 16:29 -0300
          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Neo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 02:10 -0700
            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-10 06:42 -0400
              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 07:43 -0500
                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Neo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 01:49 -0700
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-05-11 09:06 -0400
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-11 09:47 -0400
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-11 09:33 -0500
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 10:26 -0500
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-11 11:11 -0500
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-11 17:48 +0100
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-16 20:02 -0400
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 12:05 -0500
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-11 14:59 -0500
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 21:32 -0500
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-16 19:59 -0400
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 21:34 -0500
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-12 03:39 +0100
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-12 06:13 +0100
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-12 14:46 -0400
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-11 14:31 -0400
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-11 14:21 -0700
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-11 17:50 -0500
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-11 16:01 -0700
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 21:35 -0500
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-12 02:50 +0000
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-05-12 10:07 +0000
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-12 11:39 +0100
                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-12 17:49 +0000
                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-12 21:55 +0100
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-12 13:12 -0700
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Andy Burns <feb2017-usenet@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-05-12 00:20 +0100
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-11 21:40 -0400
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-05-14 23:47 -0300
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-15 14:09 +0000
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-11 11:37 -0700
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-11 11:40 -0700
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-11 15:15 -0500
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2016-05-11 21:50 +0000
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-11 15:49 -0700
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-05-11 23:36 -0400
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2016-05-12 10:32 +0000
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-13 11:16 -0700
                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-13 15:11 -0700
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 17:42 -0400
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-15 17:34 -0500
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 20:32 -0400
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-15 22:21 -0700
                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 06:57 -0400
                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-16 13:12 -0500
                                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-16 23:25 +0000
                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-16 19:53 -0400
                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 08:23 -0500
                                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-17 09:16 -0500
                                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-17 10:40 -0500
                                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-17 16:59 +0000
                                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-17 13:42 -0500
                                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-17 11:56 -0700
                                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-17 12:10 -0700
                                                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-17 19:58 +0000
                                                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-18 02:50 -0300
                                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-17 23:51 -0700
                                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-18 07:32 -0400
                                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-18 14:28 -0700
                                                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-18 23:18 +0100
                                                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> - 2016-05-19 11:07 +0100
                                                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-05-19 10:00 -0400
                                                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-19 12:53 -0400
                                                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-05-23 10:56 -0400
                                                                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-23 12:59 -0500
                                                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-05-24 00:01 -0300
                                                                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-05-23 18:48 +0000
                                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-19 02:18 -0300
                                                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-19 07:03 +0000
                                                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-19 13:11 +0000
                                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-18 12:28 +0000
                                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-19 02:38 -0300
                                                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-21 21:26 -0400
                                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-18 10:39 -0500
                                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-18 19:21 +0000
                                                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-18 12:35 -0700
                                                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-18 21:06 +0000
                                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-18 12:34 -0700
                                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-17 14:35 -0500
                                                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 15:43 -0500
                                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-17 14:32 -0500
                                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-17 14:53 -0500
                                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-18 07:32 -0400
                                                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-19 02:43 -0300
                                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-17 19:44 +0000
                                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-17 22:40 +0000
                                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-17 14:42 +0000
                                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-17 17:01 +0000
                                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-17 12:09 -0500
                                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-17 14:31 -0300
                                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-18 12:28 +0000
                                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 12:33 -0500
                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-17 10:31 -0500
                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-16 20:37 -0400
                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-17 11:12 +0200
                                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-17 05:49 -0700
                                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-17 08:21 -0500
                                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-05-23 12:23 -0400
                                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-16 22:03 -0700
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 05:09 +1000
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-05-23 09:39 -0400
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-23 09:48 -0500
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-23 13:51 -0400
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-23 13:49 -0500
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-11 11:34 -0700
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-11 14:06 -0500
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-11 17:49 +0200
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-11 16:53 +0000
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-12 03:11 -0300
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2016-05-14 16:59 +0800
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-14 10:48 +0100
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-14 15:53 +0000
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-05-14 09:37 -0700
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-14 12:09 -0500
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-15 14:09 +0000
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-11 17:22 +0100
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-05-11 12:59 -0400
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-21 00:56 +0000
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-20 22:17 -0400
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-22 05:53 +0000
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-05-22 11:26 +0100
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 07:13 -0400
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-21 00:56 +0000
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-22 06:43 +0100
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-05-22 11:22 +0100
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 07:14 -0400
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-05-22 13:35 +0100
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-22 07:29 -0700
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-22 08:35 -0500
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-23 06:41 +0100
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-23 16:11 +0200
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-23 16:43 -0300
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-05-23 16:50 -0400
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-24 01:50 -0300
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-24 12:11 +0000
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-24 13:40 +0100
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-24 19:33 +0000
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-23 21:33 -0400
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 08:54 -0500
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-24 16:38 -0300
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-05-24 20:04 +0000
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-24 22:24 -0400
                                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-25 12:45 -0700
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-24 17:15 -0500
                              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-24 11:55 -0400
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-24 18:18 +0100
                                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-24 13:26 -0500
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-24 11:59 -0700
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-05-24 17:03 -0300
                                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-05-26 17:55 +0000
                                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-24 11:53 -0700
              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-10 17:47 +0100
                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-05-11 14:41 -0400
            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-10 12:34 +0000
              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Neo Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 01:44 -0700
                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-11 11:32 -0700
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-06 13:55 -0500
      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-06 19:29 -0400
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-07 13:14 +0000
      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 05:39 -0400
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-05-07 11:35 +0000
          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 17:38 -0400
            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-05-07 22:30 +0000
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-05-07 13:25 -0700
          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-05-07 17:16 -0700
            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 20:39 -0400
              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-07 21:57 -0400
                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 22:49 -0400
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-08 07:08 -0700
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-08 20:58 -0400
      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-07 13:14 +0000
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-06 12:09 -0700
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-05-07 10:39 +0100
      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-07 20:16 -0700
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-08 13:08 +0000
          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-08 16:20 +0200
            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-09 13:08 +0000
              Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-05-09 15:34 +0200
                Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-10 12:34 +0000
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2016-05-10 13:42 +0000
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-11 12:18 +0000
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-11 13:19 +0000
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-11 16:57 +0100
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-11 16:20 +0000
                            Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-11 17:38 +0100
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-10 15:49 +0200
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-11 12:18 +0000
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-10 11:07 -0400
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-11 12:18 +0000
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-11 13:16 +0000
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-11 09:45 -0400
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-11 16:22 +0100
                          Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-11 15:47 +0000
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-11 10:52 -0400
                        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-11 15:49 +0000
                  Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-10 17:44 +0100
                    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-11 12:18 +0000
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-11 13:44 +0100
                      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-11 17:46 +0200
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Thomas Lake <tomlake07@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 10:47 -0700
      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-05-10 18:36 +0000
    Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-16 19:45 -0400
      Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-17 06:35 +0100
        Re: What Would Be Your Ultimate Computer? Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-17 20:05 -0400

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#163607

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2016-05-11 14:21 -0700
Message-ID<cf87jb9sr51mgcr6ile0rpggicqak207r6@4ax.com>
In reply to#163588
On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:31:55 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
wrote:

>On Wed, 11 May 2016, Dave Garland wrote:

>> * Does anyone from the post-slide-rule** era understand "significant 
>> figures"? I see people translating "one and a third" to be "1.3333333".
>>
>> ** That's "after slide rules". People from the Post slide rule era understand 
>> perfectly well.
>>
>>
>In the age of electronics, it's harder to present those fractions on 
>screen in your average text.  Which is why I certainly write "5.25 floppy 
>disks".

     There is a very simple way of doing it: 5-1/4.

     How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#163610

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2016-05-11 17:50 -0500
Message-ID<nh0cq5$6hl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#163607
On 5/11/2016 4:21 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
> On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:31:55 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Dave Garland wrote:
>
>>> * Does anyone from the post-slide-rule** era understand "significant
>>> figures"? I see people translating "one and a third" to be "1.3333333".
>>>
>>> ** That's "after slide rules". People from the Post slide rule era understand
>>> perfectly well.
>>>
>>>
>> In the age of electronics, it's harder to present those fractions on
>> screen in your average text.  Which is why I certainly write "5.25 floppy
>> disks".
>
>      There is a very simple way of doing it: 5-1/4.
>
>      How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?
>
But we didn't have to worry about the typewriter autocorrecting the 
result to "4.75" (or "1", depending on operator precedence).  Unless 
you had a "¼" key, but I bet some newsreaders won't like that solution.

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#163611

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2016-05-11 16:01 -0700
Message-ID<mce7jb9rv4e5iftblkcmud80e76c4oeqcb@4ax.com>
In reply to#163610
On Wed, 11 May 2016 17:50:58 -0500, Dave Garland
<dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:

>On 5/11/2016 4:21 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:31:55 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Dave Garland wrote:
>>
>>>> * Does anyone from the post-slide-rule** era understand "significant
>>>> figures"? I see people translating "one and a third" to be "1.3333333".
>>>>
>>>> ** That's "after slide rules". People from the Post slide rule era understand
>>>> perfectly well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> In the age of electronics, it's harder to present those fractions on
>>> screen in your average text.  Which is why I certainly write "5.25 floppy
>>> disks".
>>
>>      There is a very simple way of doing it: 5-1/4.
>>
>>      How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?
>>
>But we didn't have to worry about the typewriter autocorrecting the 
>result to "4.75" (or "1", depending on operator precedence).  Unless 
>you had a "¼" key, but I bet some newsreaders won't like that solution.

     Hardly insurmountable.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#163618

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-05-11 21:35 -0500
Message-ID<ktq7jbh21l5a9hi3lbpohj2l5dcg44rc50@4ax.com>
In reply to#163610
On Wed, 11 May 2016 17:50:58 -0500, Dave Garland
<dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>On 5/11/2016 4:21 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:31:55 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Dave Garland wrote:
>>
>>>> * Does anyone from the post-slide-rule** era understand "significant
>>>> figures"? I see people translating "one and a third" to be "1.3333333".
>>>>
>>>> ** That's "after slide rules". People from the Post slide rule era understand
>>>> perfectly well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> In the age of electronics, it's harder to present those fractions on
>>> screen in your average text.  Which is why I certainly write "5.25 floppy
>>> disks".
>>
>>      There is a very simple way of doing it: 5-1/4.
>>
>>      How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?
>>
>But we didn't have to worry about the typewriter autocorrecting the 
>result to "4.75" (or "1", depending on operator precedence).  Unless 
>you had a "¼" key, but I bet some newsreaders won't like that solution.

My grandmother's old Royal Quiet Deluxe had 1/4 and 1/2 and cent keys.

-- 
JimP.

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#163622

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2016-05-12 02:50 +0000
Message-ID<nh0r0q0130v@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#163610
On 2016-05-11, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:

> On 5/11/2016 4:21 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:31:55 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Dave Garland wrote:
>>>
>>>> * Does anyone from the post-slide-rule** era understand "significant
>>>> figures"? I see people translating "one and a third" to be "1.3333333".
>>>>
>>>> ** That's "after slide rules". People from the Post slide rule era
>>>> understand perfectly well.
>>>
>>> In the age of electronics, it's harder to present those fractions on
>>> screen in your average text.  Which is why I certainly write "5.25 floppy
>>> disks".
>>
>>      There is a very simple way of doing it: 5-1/4.
>>
>>      How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?
>
> But we didn't have to worry about the typewriter autocorrecting the 
> result to "4.75" (or "1", depending on operator precedence).  Unless 
> you had a "¼" key, but I bet some newsreaders won't like that solution.

I was taught that the correct notation uses a space instead of a hyphen
(i.e. "5 1/4").  That takes care of that particular ambiguity.

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#163629

FromBob Eager <news0006@eager.cx>
Date2016-05-12 10:07 +0000
Message-ID<dpj2u6Ftl3pU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#163622
On Thu, 12 May 2016 02:50:02 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2016-05-11, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/11/2016 4:21 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:31:55 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Dave Garland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> * Does anyone from the post-slide-rule** era understand "significant
>>>>> figures"? I see people translating "one and a third" to be
>>>>> "1.3333333".
>>>>>
>>>>> ** That's "after slide rules". People from the Post slide rule era
>>>>> understand perfectly well.
>>>>
>>>> In the age of electronics, it's harder to present those fractions on
>>>> screen in your average text.  Which is why I certainly write "5.25
>>>> floppy disks".
>>>
>>>      There is a very simple way of doing it: 5-1/4.
>>>
>>>      How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?
>>
>> But we didn't have to worry about the typewriter autocorrecting the
>> result to "4.75" (or "1", depending on operator precedence).  Unless
>> you had a "¼" key, but I bet some newsreaders won't like that solution.
> 
> I was taught that the correct notation uses a space instead of a hyphen
> (i.e. "5 1/4").  That takes care of that particular ambiguity.

But it's still so vulgar.

-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
 http://www.mirrorservice.org

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#163631

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2016-05-12 11:39 +0100
Message-ID<20160512113908.586786c4dae0b868e77840b4@eircom.net>
In reply to#163629
On 12 May 2016 10:07:02 GMT
Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:

> On Thu, 12 May 2016 02:50:02 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
> > I was taught that the correct notation uses a space instead of a hyphen
> > (i.e. "5 1/4").  That takes care of that particular ambiguity.
> 
> But it's still so vulgar.

	No it's mixed, 26/4 is vulgar, not to mention improper.

-- 
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C:>WIN                                      | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
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#163641

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2016-05-12 17:49 +0000
Message-ID<nh2fo212vp1@news1.newsguy.com>
In reply to#163631
On 2016-05-12, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On 12 May 2016 10:07:02 GMT
> Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 12 May 2016 02:50:02 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> 
>>> I was taught that the correct notation uses a space instead of a hyphen
>>> (i.e. "5 1/4").  That takes care of that particular ambiguity.
>> 
>> But it's still so vulgar.
>
> 	No it's mixed, 26/4 is vulgar, not to mention improper.

How about 22/7?  Vulgar, improper, and inaccurate.

-- 
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#163647

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2016-05-12 21:55 +0100
Message-ID<20160512215532.f42ae294f35dc29bd8b2b56c@eircom.net>
In reply to#163641
On 12 May 2016 17:49:54 GMT
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> On 2016-05-12, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 12 May 2016 10:07:02 GMT
> > Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 12 May 2016 02:50:02 +0000, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I was taught that the correct notation uses a space instead of a
> >>> hyphen (i.e. "5 1/4").  That takes care of that particular ambiguity.
> >> 
> >> But it's still so vulgar.
> >
> > 	No it's mixed, 26/4 is vulgar, not to mention improper.
> 
> How about 22/7?  Vulgar, improper, and inaccurate.

Well we wouldn't want to get irrational about things.

-- 
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C:>WIN                                      | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
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#163646

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2016-05-12 13:12 -0700
Message-ID<qmo9jblka3c88jhs6g6ltfsdhemm9lt6sa@4ax.com>
In reply to#163622
On 12 May 2016 02:50:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:

>On 2016-05-11, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/11/2016 4:21 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

[snip]

>>>      There is a very simple way of doing it: 5-1/4.
>>>
>>>      How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?
>>
>> But we didn't have to worry about the typewriter autocorrecting the 
>> result to "4.75" (or "1", depending on operator precedence).  Unless 
>> you had a "¼" key, but I bet some newsreaders won't like that solution.
>
>I was taught that the correct notation uses a space instead of a hyphen
>(i.e. "5 1/4").  That takes care of that particular ambiguity.

     I have seen both.  The space puts in another ambiguity.  Is
          5 1/4" nails
five nails or discussing long nails?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#163612

FromAndy Burns <feb2017-usenet@adslpipe.co.uk>
Date2016-05-12 00:20 +0100
Message-ID<dpht2aFo7itU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#163607
Gene Wirchenko wrote:

> Michael Black wrote:
>
>> In the age of electronics, it's harder to present those fractions on
>> screen in your average text.  Which is why I certainly write "5.25 floppy
>> disks".
>
> There is a very simple way of doing it: 5-1/4.

Isn't that 4.75?

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#163615

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2016-05-11 21:40 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1605112139280.31672@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#163607
On Wed, 11 May 2016, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

> On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:31:55 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Dave Garland wrote:
>
>>> * Does anyone from the post-slide-rule** era understand "significant
>>> figures"? I see people translating "one and a third" to be "1.3333333".
>>>
>>> ** That's "after slide rules". People from the Post slide rule era understand
>>> perfectly well.
>>>
>>>
>> In the age of electronics, it's harder to present those fractions on
>> screen in your average text.  Which is why I certainly write "5.25 floppy
>> disks".
>
>     There is a very simple way of doing it: 5-1/4.
>
>     How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?
>
I seem to recall that my grandfather's typewriter, which would have been 
the first one I used, had 1/4 and 1/2 on the keyboard.  But you're right, 
however it breaks the flow of typing more than 5.25.

   Michael

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#163689

FromJoy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid>
Date2016-05-14 23:47 -0300
Message-ID<umofjb9kumkgbpmeo1ktauemopugc3r1n1@4ax.com>
In reply to#163607
On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:21:38 -0700, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
wrote:

> How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?

By supplementing the typewriter with a pencil or pen.

For reproduction work, there were rub-on letters.

On a manual typewriter, one could overstrike to create characters. For
example, if you pushed the space bar down, it would prevent the
carriage from moving while you typed an apostrophe and a period to
make an exclamation point.  (They didn't line up properly if you
backspaced instead.)

There were two clicks to a linefeed, so superscripts and subscripts
could be typed by rotating the platen half a line.  I imagine that
vulgar fractions could be made the same way, but I never had a reason
to type a vulgar fraction.  I no longer have a manual typewriter to
experiment with, but I see no reason one couldn't type a superscript
numerator, backspace and underline it, backspace again, roll down one
line, type the denominator, and roll up half a line to continue.


-- 
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post. 
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.

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#163699

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-05-15 14:09 +0000
Message-ID<PM000532E217EF64D2@aca424e3.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#163689
Joy Beeson wrote:
> On Wed, 11 May 2016 14:21:38 -0700, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
> wrote:
>
>> How do you think we managed when typewriters were the usual tech?
>
> By supplementing the typewriter with a pencil or pen.
>
> For reproduction work, there were rub-on letters.
>
> On a manual typewriter, one could overstrike to create characters. For
> example, if you pushed the space bar down, it would prevent the
> carriage from moving while you typed an apostrophe and a period to
> make an exclamation point.  (They didn't line up properly if you
> backspaced instead.)
>
> There were two clicks to a linefeed, so superscripts and subscripts
> could be typed by rotating the platen half a line.  I imagine that
> vulgar fractions could be made the same way, but I never had a reason
> to type a vulgar fraction.  I no longer have a manual typewriter to
> experiment with, but I see no reason one couldn't type a superscript
> numerator, backspace and underline it, backspace again, roll down one
> line, type the denominator, and roll up half a line to continue.

Yup.  And a really good typist who knew her/his machine could
disengage the platen and move it up and down for the subscripting
and then turn it back on to continue typing.  I usally left spaces
for that kind of character and filled in the characters when I
was done typing the page.

/BAH

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#163591

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2016-05-11 11:37 -0700
Message-ID<c8157be8-7b3f-461d-a714-1b77daf01e94@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#163579
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:12:10 AM UTC-6, Dave Garland wrote:

> * Does anyone from the post-slide-rule** era understand "significant 
> figures"? I see people translating "one and a third" to be "1.3333333".

That depends on the context. 4/3 is a rational number, and is indeed 1.3333..., 
that is, one, followed by an _infinite_ series of threes after the decimal 
point.

So if 1 1/3 were, say, the sum of a geometric series, as opposed to the result 
of a physical measurement, that would not be an issue.

> ** That's "after slide rules". People from the Post slide rule era 
> understand perfectly well.

Lol!

John Savard

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#163593

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2016-05-11 11:40 -0700
Message-ID<62c38555-f060-4875-b945-13df26593513@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#163591
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 12:37:52 PM UTC-6, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:12:10 AM UTC-6, Dave Garland wrote:

> > ** That's "after slide rules". People from the Post slide rule era 
> > understand perfectly well.

> Lol!

And, of course, the Post Verilog slide rule was really made for them by Hemmi (in 
Japan)...

John Savard

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#163602

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2016-05-11 15:15 -0500
Message-ID<nh03lo$2t4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#163591
On 5/11/2016 1:37 PM, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:12:10 AM UTC-6, Dave Garland wrote:
>
>> * Does anyone from the post-slide-rule** era understand "significant
>> figures"? I see people translating "one and a third" to be "1.3333333".
>
> That depends on the context. 4/3 is a rational number, and is indeed 1.3333...,
> that is, one, followed by an _infinite_ series of threes after the decimal
> point.
>
Hmm... in which case there are an infinite number of significant 
digits, and a calculator or computer will fail the computation too, 
just with a few more significant digits. But if somebody says "one and 
a third" you can be pretty sure that the number is +/-0.1.

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#163608

Fromcb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen)
Date2016-05-11 21:50 +0000
Message-ID<nh09ec$num$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#163602
In article <nh03lo$2t4$1@dont-email.me>,
Dave Garland  <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>Hmm... in which case there are an infinite number of significant 
>digits, and a calculator or computer will fail the computation too, 
>just with a few more significant digits. But if somebody says "one and 
>a third" you can be pretty sure that the number is +/-0.1.

An interesting development is has been recently presented by
John Gustafson, which presents a new way to look at numbers and 
calculation, breaking with IEEE floating point, but doing so in a way
that has some intriguing possibilities and improvements - especially
regarding the propagation of error intervals:

  https://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/47frn5/unums_20/

// Christian

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#163609

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2016-05-11 15:49 -0700
Message-ID<c8d6926d-664e-450d-83a3-6b5b40f93094@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#163608
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 3:53:37 PM UTC-6, Christian Brunschen wrote:
 
> An interesting development is has been recently presented by
> John Gustafson, which presents a new way to look at numbers and 
> calculation, breaking with IEEE floating point, but doing so in a way
> that has some intriguing possibilities and improvements - especially
> regarding the propagation of error intervals:

There's been some discussion of his UNUMs over on comp.arch . Some people are 
enthusiastic, others highly skeptical. Myself, although sharing many of the 
concerns of the skeptics, I still am somewhat enthusiastic that there is some 
useful potential in the idea.

Basically, the problem with UNUMs is that they're likely to be less efficient 
in calculations. And the main problem they might address can't be completely 
solved by them - the fact that many programmers with floating-point arithmetic 
these days aren't conversant with the subtleties of numerical analysis.

But I'm mildly enthusiastic despite this because I feel that we *won't* solve 
the problem of getting all the programmers who need to be trained properly 
trained... and so the dangers of a false sense of security are outweighed by 
the benefits of a tool which will at least catch many of the mistakes - because 
the need is desperate.

Thus, I'd be in favor of taking as much of the UNUM idea as possible, leaving 
out the hardest part - making numbers variable in size - so that programs could 
run efficiently in a special mode using an alternate floating-point format that 
checks for error. To allow the same program to run both ways, I have suggested 
that one could make a format that is the same as the current standard for 
numbers for the inner part of the exponent range, but has extra features when 
the exponent field begins with the bits which would indicate very large or very 
small numbers.

John Savard

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#163623

FromWalter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Date2016-05-11 23:36 -0400
Message-ID<nh0tn9$37h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#163608
On 2016-05-11 5:50 PM, Christian Brunschen wrote:
> In article <nh03lo$2t4$1@dont-email.me>,
> Dave Garland  <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>> Hmm... in which case there are an infinite number of significant
>> digits, and a calculator or computer will fail the computation too,
>> just with a few more significant digits. But if somebody says "one and
>> a third" you can be pretty sure that the number is +/-0.1.
>
> An interesting development is has been recently presented by
> John Gustafson, which presents a new way to look at numbers and
> calculation, breaking with IEEE floating point, but doing so in a way
> that has some intriguing possibilities and improvements - especially
> regarding the propagation of error intervals:
>
>   https://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/47frn5/unums_20/
>
> // Christian
>
I was part of the C 754 floating group. Gustafson's book is interesting
but the approach doesn't seem to be an advantage over IEEE754 in real
applications. It doesn't deal with the errors any better than 754 it
marginally identifies errors earlier.

w..

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