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Qbasic

Started byphilo <philo@privacy.net>
First post2016-02-05 11:25 -0600
Last post2016-03-22 13:12 +0000
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  Qbasic philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-02-05 11:25 -0600
    Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-05 14:56 -0800
      Re: Qbasic philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-02-05 18:13 -0600
        Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-05 22:40 -0500
          Re: Qbasic philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-02-05 22:32 -0600
            Re: Qbasic "Gene Buckle" <gene.buckle@bbs.retroarchive.org.remove-3hg-this> - 2016-02-11 10:22 -0800
              Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-11 17:16 -0800
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-11 18:49 -0800
                  Re: Qbasic philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-02-12 05:25 -0600
                    Re: Qbasic "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-02-12 11:50 +0000
                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-12 14:02 +0000
                        Re: Qbasic "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-02-12 23:24 +0000
                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-12 09:50 -0800
                  Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 06:53 -0500
                    Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-12 13:40 +0000
                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-12 09:53 -0800
                        Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-13 14:37 +0000
                    Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-12 14:04 +0000
                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-12 09:55 -0800
                        Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-12 20:49 +0000
                          Re: Qbasic Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-12 23:21 +0000
                            Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-12 15:55 -0800
                              Re: Qbasic Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-13 00:26 +0000
                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-16 15:55 +0000
                        Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-12 21:09 +0000
                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-12 17:11 -0600
                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-12 23:27 -0800
                              Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 06:26 -0500
                                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-16 15:54 +0000
                                  Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-17 11:34 -0800
                                    Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 19:56 +0000
                                      Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 12:48 -0800
                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-17 18:52 -0600
                                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-17 19:23 -0800
                                          Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:00 -0600
                                            Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-18 15:02 -0800
                                              Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 20:36 -0500
                                                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-19 04:14 +0000
                                                  Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-19 20:05 -0600
                                                    Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 21:34 -0500
                                                      Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 08:03 -0600
                                                        Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 11:09 -0500
                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:39 -0600
                                                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 12:05 -0600
                                                            Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-20 13:47 -0600
                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 14:21 -0600
                                                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:06 -0600
                                                                  Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
                                                                  Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 23:29 -0500
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-20 22:48 -0600
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 19:37 +1100
                                                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 09:17 +0000
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-21 23:28 +0000
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-18 18:04 -0400
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 05:59 -0500
                                                                        Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:30 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-21 18:34 -0600
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-20 21:03 -0800
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 05:53 -0500
                                                                        Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:27 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 12:52 -0600
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-21 12:23 -0800
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:17 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 18:36 -0700
                                                                          Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 14:03 +1100
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-22 13:14 +0000
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 11:05 -0600
                                                                              Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-22 11:19 -0800
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:39 -0600
                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-25 06:18 -0600
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 06:53 -0700
                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-25 08:45 -0600
                                                                            Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-25 15:56 +0000
                                                                              Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-25 18:19 +0000
                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-25 10:25 -0500
                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-25 16:07 +0000
                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-25 16:28 -0600
                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 16:01 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-25 18:51 -0600
                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 10:15 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:30 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-27 13:06 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-26 19:05 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 20:49 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 14:33 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-26 21:46 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 06:44 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-27 11:51 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:51 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-28 12:58 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 16:34 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-28 17:47 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 07:40 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:28 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:46 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:31 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 17:23 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 18:13 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:14 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-28 21:04 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-29 09:31 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 07:43 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 08:21 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:43 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare pechter@chuckie.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-02-29 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:35 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-29 14:19 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 17:19 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-01 06:02 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-02 10:40 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:31 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-01 13:55 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-01 14:14 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:33 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-02 14:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 10:23 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 08:28 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-03 16:21 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-03 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-03 16:23 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 03:58 +1100
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 15:06 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-03 15:57 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-04 09:58 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-04 11:11 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-04 16:22 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-05 03:05 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 19:31 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-04 19:25 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-05 11:14 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-05 09:50 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-05 17:41 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 20:06 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 20:06 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-05 20:36 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-05 22:08 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-06 09:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-06 09:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-06 18:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-06 17:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-07 01:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-06 17:26 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-15 12:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 18:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-07 14:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 11:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 11:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 16:24 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-08 08:18 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-11 11:40 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-13 10:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:37 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 11:24 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 07:34 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-06 17:25 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 12:14 +1100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare pechter@mongo.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-03-07 02:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 15:47 +1100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-06 19:54 -0600
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 12:02 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-05 14:53 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-05 23:42 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-05 21:57 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-06 00:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-07 01:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 17:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-06 02:52 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 11:16 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 07:30 +1100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-06 17:37 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:12 +1100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 19:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:39 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:59 +1100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-07 14:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 03:11 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-08 13:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 08:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 14:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-09 00:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Basic - lies about Medicare "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 11:58 +1100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Basic - lies about Medicare mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-09 11:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-09 11:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 15:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 07:18 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-08 15:06 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-09 13:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 06:48 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 04:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-10 13:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-10 14:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 05:09 +1100
                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-03-08 11:23 -0800
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-06 09:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:57 +1100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-07 01:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 +1100
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 11:51 +1100
                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:24 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 12:57 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:08 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: computer security hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-04 14:36 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: computer security Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 19:31 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-05 13:57 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:37 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-06 00:35 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 21:34 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-17 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-03-17 14:17 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-18 12:45 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 15:01 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-02 10:37 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 10:47 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:12 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-27 00:28 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 06:44 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-28 14:03 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:47 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 14:52 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 09:25 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:33 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-27 08:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-27 11:21 -0500
                                                                          Re: Qbasic pechter@chuckie.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-02-25 15:31 +0000
                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-25 10:22 -0600
                                                                              Re: Qbasic pechter@chuckie.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-02-25 17:28 +0000
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-25 08:11 -0800
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-25 10:40 -0600
                                                                          Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 04:37 +1100
                                                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-23 12:29 -0600
                                                                        Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-24 13:55 +0000
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 15:24 -0600
                                                                  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 09:13 +0000
                                                                    Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:23 +1100
                                                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 17:38 +0000
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 17:59 +0000
                                                                        Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:41 +1100
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-22 01:21 +0000
                                                                            Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 14:00 +1100
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:48 -0600
                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-22 16:43 -0600
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 20:49 -0600
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 18:15 -0600
                                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 17:59 -0700
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 19:30 -0600
                                                                          Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:20 -0600
                                                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-24 17:58 -0800
                                                                          Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 14:38 +1100
                                                                          Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 05:25 -0500
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-25 10:22 -0500
                                                                            Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 04:31 +1100
                                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 15:53 -0800
                                                                              Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 21:41 -0500
                                                                                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 14:55 +1100
                                                                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 20:18 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:23 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-26 12:15 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:24 -0800
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:14 -0800
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-25 23:34 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:38 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:46 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-26 10:14 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:15 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 14:23 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 15:50 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:46 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:40 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 18:25 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:40 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:32 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 10:39 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:23 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 14:27 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:58 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 07:22 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:03 +1100
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 13:52 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 13:56 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-26 12:51 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-26 23:12 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-27 09:17 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-27 14:37 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-27 17:08 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-28 09:57 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-28 15:56 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-28 19:00 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-29 22:14 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-01 22:26 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:26 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-02 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-02 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-03 05:33 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-02 19:28 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 15:45 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 16:27 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-03 01:02 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-16 17:59 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-17 10:42 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-27 19:43 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:21 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-27 20:19 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 08:27 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:25 -0800
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:30 -0600
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 15:00 -0600
                                                                              Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 13:52 -0800
                                                                              Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 17:16 -0600
                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-27 18:22 -0600
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-27 17:12 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:23 -0600
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 05:43 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:34 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:41 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 11:16 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 14:57 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:55 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-29 09:25 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:46 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:22 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 16:17 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 09:58 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:17 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:59 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:25 +1100
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:38 +1100
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:14 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:20 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:35 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:35 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:19 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-08 00:48 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:49 +1100
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:12 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:49 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 11:03 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:51 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 15:56 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:26 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:30 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:10 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 10:36 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:35 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 18:41 -0600
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:12 -0600
                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:18 -0600
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 03:28 -0700
                                                                            Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:48 +0000
                                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:09 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:15 -0600
                                                                                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:22 +1100
                                                                                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:13 -0600
                                                                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:28 -0800
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-28 12:59 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:32 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:40 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:36 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 18:06 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 20:27 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:22 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:38 +1100
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:40 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 06:42 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:35 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:00 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:54 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 10:51 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:05 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-28 22:06 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:01 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-29 08:58 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 05:01 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0800
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:24 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-01 10:12 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:59 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:59 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 16:06 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 09:12 +1100
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:37 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:24 +1100
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:18 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 06:04 +1100
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:08 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 11:33 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-13 11:25 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:47 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-28 10:58 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:51 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:01 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 04:17 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:38 -0800
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:44 +1100
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:46 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:59 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:56 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 22:53 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:35 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:44 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 14:02 +0100
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:51 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 11:36 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:58 +1100
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:20 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 10:16 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 21:03 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:23 +1100
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:02 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 11:18 +1100
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-01 15:14 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:24 +1100
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:53 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:13 +1100
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:15 +0000
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                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-09 12:38 -0800
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                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 05:06 -0800
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                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 07:42 -0800
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                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:04 +1100
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-02 12:50 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 11:55 +1100
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:37 +1100
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                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:34 +1100
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
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                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 22:07 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:16 +1100
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 15:54 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 03:44 +1100
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 16:59 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-02 15:08 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:19 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:11 +1100
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:56 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:21 +1100
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 10:57 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:56 +1100
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
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                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-01 13:55 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:28 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:41 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:16 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:24 -0800
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 14:41 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-03-21 20:42 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:55 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:16 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:00 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:12 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 18:44 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 21:06 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 23:13 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:25 +1100
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 23:36 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-22 12:56 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:11 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:33 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 10:32 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 10:06 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 17:38 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:10 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-22 19:41 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 05:09 +1100
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:00 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 11:09 +1100
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-25 08:50 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-25 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:34 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 12:58 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:01 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 16:07 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 16:39 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 10:49 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 10:41 +1100
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-29 10:26 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:38 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-29 12:56 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 18:01 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:53 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 19:21 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 20:19 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 20:32 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 16:18 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 14:25 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-02 16:51 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:17 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-10 09:48 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 13:29 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-10 18:27 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 20:14 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-11 11:06 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-11 10:09 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:21 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-11 10:28 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:12 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-11 19:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-10 16:58 -0800
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 17:35 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 00:51 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 18:59 +1100
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-03 10:48 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:52 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 18:11 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-16 20:52 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:26 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 13:52 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:10 +1100
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:44 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 13:36 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 12:55 -0800
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:21 +1100
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-02 08:01 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 11:57 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 15:13 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 17:32 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 13:36 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 19:44 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 12:14 -0800
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 14:43 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 18:06 -0800
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:44 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 11:23 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 15:03 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 14:04 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 16:16 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-11 17:02 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 19:01 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 09:47 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-04 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 12:32 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:34 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:08 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 16:02 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-04 10:54 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-04 20:36 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:41 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:12 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:28 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 17:34 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 14:42 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:28 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 22:37 -0600
                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 09:16 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 09:22 -0600
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:45 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-08 17:28 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 22:11 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 09:10 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 13:07 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 11:27 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 16:28 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Trump vs. Hillary Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 14:05 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 14:28 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 17:37 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 16:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 18:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 20:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:39 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 20:23 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:17 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 20:15 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 08:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 07:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 08:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-08 10:58 -0600
                                                                                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 15:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-09 14:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 10:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-09 09:41 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 04:57 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Trump vs. Hillary Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-09 21:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 15:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-10 17:40 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Trump vs. Hillary scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:31 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:25 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 18:33 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 18:38 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-07 12:59 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 08:44 -0600
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 09:19 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:29 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:21 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 15:45 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 17:52 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:42 +1100
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:11 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-07 13:04 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 10:31 +1100
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-03 19:28 -0600
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:19 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 11:04 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 17:35 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:20 +1100
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-16 22:40 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 09:44 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-16 12:10 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-16 19:53 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 17:01 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-17 07:39 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-18 12:42 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Jim Bank" <jb410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:02 +1100
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-18 12:45 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 10:52 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-19 13:23 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-17 07:41 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 11:54 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 12:55 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-18 15:42 -0600
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 17:54 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-18 17:47 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 19:57 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-18 21:09 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-20 12:55 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-20 14:39 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-21 07:53 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:00 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-21 20:48 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-19 12:56 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-19 17:07 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-20 03:35 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 07:45 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-20 06:09 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 09:16 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "John Akers" <ja5443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 04:41 +1100
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 13:21 -0600
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "John Akers" <ja5443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 08:09 +1100
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 16:37 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 17:02 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 18:04 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-21 15:57 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-21 11:24 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 16:51 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-21 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 12:55 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:03 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 16:26 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 07:00 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:56 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 10:56 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 11:14 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:07 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-22 17:08 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-23 10:08 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-13 07:57 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-21 19:45 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:13 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:27 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:31 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 08:31 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-21 20:17 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 12:42 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:33 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:58 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 16:28 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-19 13:12 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 16:48 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-03-20 00:37 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-20 12:57 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 13:05 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-20 12:43 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 14:04 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 19:06 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:04 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 16:52 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 19:06 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:06 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 19:03 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 12:04 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 12:17 -0600
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 12:40 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 12:55 -0600
                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-22 11:20 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 14:00 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 14:32 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:53 +1100
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 19:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 17:57 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 21:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-23 18:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 14:39 +1100
                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 07:00 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-23 09:40 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-23 16:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-23 17:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-23 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:30 +1100
                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-23 15:16 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:51 +1100
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-24 01:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-23 22:36 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 19:02 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 14:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-24 13:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-25 12:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-25 09:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:03 +1100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-26 13:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:14 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 12:00 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 07:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last,name.invalid> - 2016-03-29 17:12 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 09:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 05:43 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 05:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 17:26 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 23:06 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:08 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 15:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-31 11:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 05:37 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 15:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 09:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 17:59 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-30 11:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-30 15:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:14 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 15:53 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 20:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic pechter@cobalt.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-04-01 16:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-01 12:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:52 -0500
                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-29 14:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 20:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 09:41 +1100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 15:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:07 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:22 +1100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 16:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:45 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-29 22:04 -0700
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 17:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-02 13:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 15:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:58 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 19:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:13 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 09:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 21:19 +1100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-31 11:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:38 +1100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-31 12:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-31 12:16 +0200
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:00 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-31 12:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-31 13:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-31 11:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:39 +1100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:11 +1100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-30 11:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 15:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:11 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-31 16:41 -0400
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:10 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 16:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-29 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 17:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-29 23:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-31 11:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 19:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-02 13:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-03 08:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 13:47 +0200
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:48 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 12:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 14:49 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 18:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-09 18:23 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 14:49 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 20:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 04:03 +1000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:45 -0400
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-03 14:45 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-05 13:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-05 10:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-25 12:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-26 11:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-26 12:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:55 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 12:24 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:24 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-28 15:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 21:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-25 22:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-26 07:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-26 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-26 19:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-26 20:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 04:34 -0300
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-27 09:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-27 17:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-27 13:28 +0000
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#161467

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-03-24 12:58 -0700
Message-ID<0682c06b-a324-409f-ada1-ad40e1407d90@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#161291
On Monday, March 21, 2016 at 3:41:38 PM UTC-4, Stephen Sprunk wrote:

P.S.

> On 29-Feb-16 18:24, hancock4 wrote:


> > I've seen far too many liberals not care about a program's
> > effectiveness.
> 
> You have very strange liberals there, or you are misinterpreting what
> you're seeing.
> 
> Every liberal I know wants to help people, and they don't want to waste
> time or money on projects that don't.  I'll grant that a lot of them are
> prone to anecdotes rather than statistics, but the same is often true of
> their opponents, e.g. calls to end food stamps entirely because Faux
> News found one guy who used them to buy a lobster--once.

I came across Doris Kerns' bio of LBJ, and she describes the mess
of Great Society programs.  First, they thought certain things
would be a lot easier than it was, such as job training for the
hard core unemployed.  Secondly, in order to protect themselves
from scrutiny and keep funds coming in, they would like on their
status reports.  (Heroin addicts learned they could come in for
a few days and get paid for their next fix.)  The problems were
similar to Johnson's problems in Vietnam.

The Community Action programs were a notorious failure and 
highly counter productive.



> > Unfortunately, a great many liberals aren't very good managers or
> > administrators.
> 
> Ditto for a great many non-liberals.  Unfortunately, people who _are_
> good at those things tend to seek high-paying jobs, and public service
> doesn't pay very well (or at all) due to limited funds available. 

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#160358

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-02-29 14:01 -0600
Message-ID<nb27sh$iiu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160331
On 29-Feb-16 07:02, Morten Reistad wrote:
> Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>> But without government, you have no rights, no property, no 
>> corporations, no constitutions, no ownership, other than what you
>> can secure and hold by your own hand. And it likely won't be much,
>> or for long.
>> 
>> We're a social species. And once there are more than a handful of
>> us, that seems to imply government, of one form or another, whether
>> based on nation-states or something else..
> 
> The state is the legal monopoly on physical force. That is the common
> definition.

That's a useful one in the abstract, but it's rather incomplete and not
universal, and IMHO insufficient for this conversation--in particular
because it doesn't address _why_ we have govts.

I define govt as the institution created by society to enforce its
rules, and to do that effectively, it needs a monopoly on force.

> This implies that it is ruled by law,

For varying definitions of "law", of course.

> and that it can outgun anyone else on it's territory.

Yes; if it can't, it can't collect enough taxes to at least sustain
itself, which results in a failed state, i.e. no govt at all, and that
is a difficult hole for society to dig itself out of.

> But we must watch out; the tax tends to stifle everything when it
> approaches 50%. I pay 32%, plus a 25% VAT; which gives 49% total. The
> government spending as a part of GDP is 46%. The US is around 40,
> varying by nearly 10% by state or local location.

2016 govt spending is 36.4% of GDP in total, comprising 17.78% federal,
8.75% state and 9.87% local.  Some states/locals spend more than others,
of course, but that is the total nationwide.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#160369

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2016-02-29 16:07 -0600
Message-ID<djjtohFpte6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#160331
"Morten Reistad"

> The state is the legal monopoly on physical force. That is the
> common definition. This implies that it is ruled by law, and that
> it can outgun anyone else on it's territory.
>
> This means that it needs courts, police and a military force. It may
> also have civil servants, but that is technically optional.
>
> That is it.
>
> However, we have come to the conclusion that the state can operate
> a lot of stuff more efficiently than a set of private persons or
> corporations, or that it can regulate the private persons/corporations
> to do things more sensibly. Like the FAA regulates air safety, and
> the FCC regulates air frequencies. Both of these would be a likely
> chaos if left totally to private enterprise.
>
> But the argument does not stop there. Even health can be regulated
> and/or provided a lot more efficiently by private enterprise. Take
> France, the home of "dirigism", vs the US. France pays less than half
> of what the US pays per person in health expenditures, and lands
> as the top nation in the world regarding the quality of that health
> privisioning, whereas the US lands as 33rd or something like that.
>
> Yes, this payment is coerced from the people in the form of
> taxes, but it is an expense you really cannot avoid and still live
> a good life; so it is generally deemed as worthwhile.
>
> And we haven't had a big epidemic since 1920; where the whole
> society had to stand up as one. I fear for the US when (not if)
> this happens next.
>
> We have also identified roads and partly rail as natural for
> state involvement. There are a lot of other such areas, but e.g.
> national grids for electricty and gas can be kept private and
> regulated strongly, and kept operationally integrated threreby.
>
> But we must watch out; the tax tends to stifle everything when
> it approaches 50%. I pay 32%, plus a 25% VAT; which gives 49%
> total. The government spending as a part of GDP is 46%. The
> US is around 40, varying by nearly 10% by state or local location.

Some consider the Polio outbreak in 1952 as an epidemic in the US.

A VAT sounds much like a flat tax to me and it surprises me that a European 
nation would accept such a large potion of taxes be from such a "flat" base. 
I get much of my image of what Europe is like from your very informative 
posts - keep them coming! 

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#160372

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-02-29 16:39 -0600
Message-ID<nb2h4p$n6m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160369
On 29-Feb-16 16:07, Osmium wrote:
> "Morten Reistad"
>> But we must watch out; the tax tends to stifle everything when it
>> approaches 50%. I pay 32%, plus a 25% VAT; which gives 49% total.
>> The government spending as a part of GDP is 46%. The US is around
>> 40, varying by nearly 10% by state or local location.
> 
> A VAT sounds much like a flat tax to me and it surprises me that a 
> European nation would accept such a large potion of taxes be from
> such a "flat" base. I get much of my image of what Europe is like
> from your very informative posts - keep them coming!

A VAT is only "flat" if you don't exempt anything from it.  However,
like state sales taxes in the US, "necessities of life" are generally
exempt, and since the fraction of income spent on such things falls as
income rises, that makes it a progressive tax in practice.

Many countries favor VAT over income/payroll tax because the former gets
applied to imports whereas the latter gets applied to exports; a similar
strategy change here would drastically cut our trade deficit--and reduce
the incentive to offshore jobs.

However, it would be very difficult to reconcile a national VAT with
state sales taxes and even more difficult to reconcile state VATs; the
only practical way would be to have a distribute a fixed portion of a
national VAT to states that repealed their own sales taxes, and then
they'd all be bickering over how that was divided up.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#160376

From"Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-01 10:49 +1100
Message-ID<djk3oeFrc84U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#160372

"Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote in message 
news:nb2h4p$n6m$1@dont-email.me...
> On 29-Feb-16 16:07, Osmium wrote:
>> "Morten Reistad"
>>> But we must watch out; the tax tends to stifle everything when it
>>> approaches 50%. I pay 32%, plus a 25% VAT; which gives 49% total.
>>> The government spending as a part of GDP is 46%. The US is around
>>> 40, varying by nearly 10% by state or local location.
>>
>> A VAT sounds much like a flat tax to me and it surprises me that a
>> European nation would accept such a large potion of taxes be from
>> such a "flat" base. I get much of my image of what Europe is like
>> from your very informative posts - keep them coming!
>
> A VAT is only "flat" if you don't exempt anything from it.  However,
> like state sales taxes in the US, "necessities of life" are generally
> exempt, and since the fraction of income spent on such things falls as
> income rises, that makes it a progressive tax in practice.
>
> Many countries favor VAT over income/payroll tax

Hardly any do, they have both.

because the former gets
> applied to imports

It doesn’t in plenty of jurisdictions.

whereas the latter gets applied to exports; a similar
> strategy change here would drastically cut our trade
> deficit--and reduce the incentive to offshore jobs.

Like hell it would do either. The EU has in fact seen
precisely the same problem with both trade deficits
and offshored jobs as the US has.

> However, it would be very difficult to reconcile a national VAT with
> state sales taxes

What Australia did was to have the federal govt collect all
the equivalent a national VAT and hand it ALL to the states.

But that doesn’t allow each state to have its own VAT
rate and you end up with a megashit fight about what
percentage of the national VAT each state gets.

and even more difficult to reconcile state VATs; the
> only practical way would be to have a distribute a fixed portion of a
> national VAT to states that repealed their own sales taxes, and then
> they'd all be bickering over how that was divided up.

They do indeed it isnt even feasible to give the VAT that was
collected in the state back to that state either, because so many
transaction aren't done in just one state anymore.

It isnt even feasible to allow each state to set
its own VAT rate as the EU has discovered. 

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#160375

From"Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-01 10:41 +1100
Message-ID<djk3a9Fr8tsU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#160369

"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:djjtohFpte6U1@mid.individual.net...
> "Morten Reistad"
>
>> The state is the legal monopoly on physical force. That is the
>> common definition. This implies that it is ruled by law, and that
>> it can outgun anyone else on it's territory.
>>
>> This means that it needs courts, police and a military force. It may
>> also have civil servants, but that is technically optional.
>>
>> That is it.
>>
>> However, we have come to the conclusion that the state can operate
>> a lot of stuff more efficiently than a set of private persons or
>> corporations, or that it can regulate the private persons/corporations
>> to do things more sensibly. Like the FAA regulates air safety, and
>> the FCC regulates air frequencies. Both of these would be a likely
>> chaos if left totally to private enterprise.
>>
>> But the argument does not stop there. Even health can be regulated
>> and/or provided a lot more efficiently by private enterprise. Take
>> France, the home of "dirigism", vs the US. France pays less than half
>> of what the US pays per person in health expenditures, and lands
>> as the top nation in the world regarding the quality of that health
>> privisioning, whereas the US lands as 33rd or something like that.
>>
>> Yes, this payment is coerced from the people in the form of
>> taxes, but it is an expense you really cannot avoid and still live
>> a good life; so it is generally deemed as worthwhile.
>>
>> And we haven't had a big epidemic since 1920; where the whole
>> society had to stand up as one. I fear for the US when (not if)
>> this happens next.
>>
>> We have also identified roads and partly rail as natural for
>> state involvement. There are a lot of other such areas, but e.g.
>> national grids for electricty and gas can be kept private and
>> regulated strongly, and kept operationally integrated threreby.
>>
>> But we must watch out; the tax tends to stifle everything when
>> it approaches 50%. I pay 32%, plus a 25% VAT; which gives 49%
>> total. The government spending as a part of GDP is 46%. The
>> US is around 40, varying by nearly 10% by state or local location.
>
> Some consider the Polio outbreak in 1952 as an epidemic in the US.
>
> A VAT sounds much like a flat tax to me

No it is not. Not only isnt it an income tax, it isnt a flat tax in the
sense that it is hardly ever applied at a uniform rate on all goods
and services. Normally some stuff like bank transactions are exempt.

> and it surprises me that a European nation would accept such a large 
> potion of taxes be from such a "flat" base.

Its isnt necessarily all that large and works a lot better than a simple
sales tax system, both because it applies to both goods and services
and because it doesn't just apply to the final retail transaction, it
applies at every level with the intermediaries being able to claim
the VAT they pay when they charge the next level a VAT on the
transaction.

> I get much of my image of what Europe is like from your very informative 
> posts - keep them coming!
 

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#160325

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2016-02-29 10:26 -0500
Message-ID<nb1npm$eh4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160296
Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> writes:

> On 2016-02-28, Alexis <ggyy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Many people do not like lots of semi-poor people not having health cover. 
>>> Government is the organisation for collective action
>>
>> Yes.
>
> No. Government is the organization for murder, theft, extortion, slavery,
> destruction, and a wide variety of criminal activities on a mass scale.
> That's not even up for debate, any history book will confirm that this
> is the case.

Actually, there is only one poster here that advocates the murder of
half the population.  The one that wants to hang citizens from
lamp posts.

Why don't you go somewhere else to spread your message of hate?

-- 
Dan Espen

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#160342

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2016-02-29 17:38 +0000
Message-ID<20160229123652@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#160325
On 2016-02-29, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> Why don't you go somewhere else to spread your message of hate?

I would say those who support, embrace, and lionize an institution
based on violence and coercion are the haters. 

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#160345

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2016-02-29 12:56 -0500
Message-ID<nb20jh$jn6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160342
Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> writes:

> On 2016-02-29, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Why don't you go somewhere else to spread your message of hate?
>
> I would say those who support, embrace, and lionize an institution
> based on violence and coercion are the haters. 

That's f-ing ridiculous.
You make claims about some nebulous enemy and yet you openly advocate
killing 100s of millions of our own citizens.

You're sick.

-- 
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#160347

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2016-02-29 18:01 +0000
Message-ID<20160229130317@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#160345
On 2016-02-29, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> That's f-ing ridiculous.

You are f-ing ridiculous, and appear to be sick in the head. I suggest you
seek professional help before it is too late.

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#160354

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-02-29 10:53 -0800
Message-ID<07591c61-db62-4649-8ebe-02233cb8336d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#160342
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 12:41:35 PM UTC-5, Roger Blake wrote:

> I would say those who support, embrace, and lionize an institution
> based on violence and coercion are the haters. 

What is "violence"?  What is "coercion"?  What is an "institution"?

Who gets to decide the definitions?

Who gets to decide what common resources are assigned to one person?

Long, long ago, mankind developed rules for people to live and function
together.  Mankind defined rights and responsibilities.

Unless you are willing to live ALONE isolated from everyone else in
every way, you must submit to society's rules and discharge your
responsibilities.

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#160357

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2016-02-29 19:21 +0000
Message-ID<SS0By.20303$8W3.13800@fx10.iad>
In reply to#160354
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
>On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 12:41:35 PM UTC-5, Roger Blake wrote:
>
>> I would say those who support, embrace, and lionize an institution
>> based on violence and coercion are the haters. 
>
>What is "violence"?  What is "coercion"?  What is an "institution"?

Roger clearly prefers the political system in somalia or libya
over the political system in any enlightened western society.

He's free to move to one of those countries any time he likes,
just as we're free to ignore his unthinking rants.

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#160360

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2016-02-29 20:19 +0000
Message-ID<20160229144506@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#160357
On 2016-02-29, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> Roger clearly prefers the political system in somalia or libya
> over the political system in any enlightened western society.

Nonsense. However you obviously have no problem with an "enlightened"
system that practices murder, theft, extortion, and various other
sundry activities - activities that you would *never* accept from
any private organization - 

> He's free to move to one of those countries any time he likes,

Ah, the old jurisdictional argument. Don't like the protection racket
being imposed by the local mobsters? Move to a place where the mobsters
have rackets more to your liking.

> just as we're free to ignore his unthinking rants.

Clearly you are not thinking here, you are engaging in a knee-jerk
reaction. This is perfectly understandable. Most people have had their
brains washed to give government an unquestioned "special" status where
the normal rules that you might otherwise use to judge its behavior do
not apply. Would you accept the activities routinely practiced by your
beloved "enlightened" system if they were practiced by by any individual
or private concern? (Most likely not.)

If AT&T provided services you saw as beneficial to society, but also
laid claim to dispose of your life as it saw fit would you simply accept
that? If they reserved the right to cage you or kill you if you don't go
along with their determinations? If Comcast forced you to register for
the possibility of being impressed into their army at its whim would
you just go along with that? How about if Sears were spying on all of
your email and phone conversations, and were demanding the keys to
any encryption you might be using, would you find that acceptable as
well? Perhaps you would, but I suspect not.

Once the inherent criminality of government is understood, then we can attempt
to figure out what to do about it. It certainly is not difficult to make
the case that the State is too dangerous to be permitted to exist:

   http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/08/robert-higgs-state-is-too-dangerous-to.html

Of course having no government at all may not be possible, despite its
inherent criminality. It may be an ideal that can be approached but not
fully realized, at least at our current level of development. But the
first step is to overcome the years of State-inflicted propaganda and
programming to understand the problem in the first place.

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#160362

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2016-02-29 20:32 +0000
Message-ID<gV1By.30507$uT1.7832@fx27.iad>
In reply to#160360
Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> writes:
>On 2016-02-29, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>> Roger clearly prefers the political system in somalia or libya
>> over the political system in any enlightened western society.
>
>Nonsense. However you obviously have no problem with an "enlightened"
>system that practices murder, theft, extortion, and various other
>sundry activities - activities that you would *never* accept from
>any private organization 


You're the only person in the world who believes that the U.S. Government
practics "murder, theft, extortion and other sundry activities" against
its own citizens.  You're the out-liar here.

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#160428

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2016-03-01 16:18 -0600
Message-ID<nb54af$it0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160362
On 2/29/2016 2:32 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> writes:
>> On 2016-02-29, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>>> Roger clearly prefers the political system in somalia or libya
>>> over the political system in any enlightened western society.
>>
>> Nonsense. However you obviously have no problem with an "enlightened"
>> system that practices murder, theft, extortion, and various other
>> sundry activities - activities that you would *never* accept from
>> any private organization
>
>
> You're the only person in the world who believes that the U.S. Government
> practics "murder, theft, extortion and other sundry activities" against
> its own citizens.  You're the out-liar here.
>

While I think Roger is engaging in rhetorical excess, and I seldom 
agree with his politics, I don't think he explicitly said "against its 
own citizens". It's not too hard to find examples where the US 
Government has committed those acts against others (even if we don't 
count the assassination in Yemen via drone strike of Abdulrahman 
al-Awlaki, a native-born American citizen). Though some of his 
examples did mention citizens being killed by police in routine 
traffic stops. Since police are government (though not Federal) 
employees, I'd say those count as government killings. I'd say those 
were aberrations but the lack of vigorous prosecution does suggest 
that government doesn't care, any more than they cared to prosecute 
the responsible (higher-up) parties for My Lai or Abu Gharib.

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#160475

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-03-02 14:25 -0600
Message-ID<nb7i1j$o57$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160428
On 01-Mar-16 16:18, Dave Garland wrote:
> On 2/29/2016 2:32 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> You're the only person in the world who believes that the U.S.
>> Government practics "murder, theft, extortion and other sundry
>> activities" against its own citizens.  You're the out-liar here.
> 
> While I think Roger is engaging in rhetorical excess, and I seldom
> agree with his politics, I don't think he explicitly said "against
> its own citizens". It's not too hard to find examples where the US
> Government has committed those acts against others

There's a totally different set of arguments for such cases, but they
generally fall under a society's right to defend itself against acts
committed by other societies.  I do grant that the US often takes that
further than such logic supports, e.g. preemptive attacks.

> (even if we don't count the assassination in Yemen via drone strike
> of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a native-born American citizen).

There are always going to be corner cases that require tweaking what
starts out as a simple general rule.  For that one, I think the right
answer is that US law says he forfeit his citizenship by voluntarily
joining a foreign army.

(Dual citizens being drafted are the reason for the "voluntarily"
exception, but AFAIK that doesn't apply in this case.)

> Though some of his examples did mention citizens being killed by
> police in routine traffic stops. Since police are government (though
> not Federal) employees, I'd say those count as government killings.
> I'd say those were aberrations but the lack of vigorous prosecution
> does suggest that government doesn't care,

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

"The govt" is made up of people, and some of them do in fact care about
such issues, but they're hamstrung by a vocal minority who don't.

> any more than they cared to prosecute the responsible (higher-up)
> parties for My Lai or Abu Gharib.

I don't know enough about My Lai, but in the case of Abu Ghraib, it is
still unclear whether any laws were actually broken.  (If not, IMHO we
need to make better laws, but they couldn't be retroactive.)

S

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#160481

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2016-03-02 16:51 -0600
Message-ID<nb7qlt$rj4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160475
On 3/2/2016 2:25 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> On 01-Mar-16 16:18, Dave Garland wrote:
>> On 2/29/2016 2:32 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> You're the only person in the world who believes that the U.S.
>>> Government practics "murder, theft, extortion and other sundry
>>> activities" against its own citizens.  You're the out-liar here.
>>
>> While I think Roger is engaging in rhetorical excess, and I seldom
>> agree with his politics, I don't think he explicitly said "against
>> its own citizens". It's not too hard to find examples where the US
>> Government has committed those acts against others
>
> There's a totally different set of arguments for such cases, but they
> generally fall under a society's right to defend itself against acts
> committed by other societies.  I do grant that the US often takes that
> further than such logic supports, e.g. preemptive attacks.

But now you're discussing the rationale for such acts, not whether or 
not they occur.

>> (even if we don't count the assassination in Yemen via drone strike
>> of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a native-born American citizen).
>
> There are always going to be corner cases that require tweaking what
> starts out as a simple general rule.  For that one, I think the right
> answer is that US law says he forfeit his citizenship by voluntarily
> joining a foreign army.

I am not aware of any evidence that he had joined a foreign army. 
(When killed, he was apparently sitting at an outdoor cafe.) In any 
case, to forfeit citizenship, US law requires that the individual 
intend to relinquish US citizenship when joining the foreign army, a 
situation that the State Department's website says is rare. He did 
have the misfortune of having a father that the US wanted dead.

> (Dual citizens being drafted are the reason for the "voluntarily"
> exception, but AFAIK that doesn't apply in this case.)

True. I don't believe that he was a dual citizen, or that he had been 
drafted.

>> Though some of his examples did mention citizens being killed by
>> police in routine traffic stops. Since police are government (though
>> not Federal) employees, I'd say those count as government killings.
>> I'd say those were aberrations but the lack of vigorous prosecution
>> does suggest that government doesn't care,
>
> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>
> "The govt" is made up of people, and some of them do in fact care about
> such issues, but they're hamstrung by a vocal minority who don't.

Again, you're speaking to the reasons, not denying that the acts 
happen. I realize that there are reasons (which may be good or bad), 
but it's hiding your head in the sand to pretend the acts don't occur.

>> any more than they cared to prosecute the responsible (higher-up)
>> parties for My Lai or Abu Gharib.
>
> I don't know enough about My Lai, but in the case of Abu Ghraib, it is
> still unclear whether any laws were actually broken.  (If not, IMHO we
> need to make better laws, but they couldn't be retroactive.)

Of course laws were broken. Its that there was no will to follow up 
(except for a few low-level scapegoats) because ultiimately Important 
People would be threatened. But in any case, it's mostly impossible 
for an individual to go though a day without breaking laws, if the 
authorities want to find them badly enough. ("If you give me six lines 
written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something 
in them which will hang him." -Cardinal Richelieu)  They weren't after 
Al Capone because he cheated on his taxes, but that was the hammer 
that worked.

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#160490

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-03 12:17 +1100
Message-ID<djphkmF93cgU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#160481

"Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
news:nb7qlt$rj4$1@dont-email.me...
> On 3/2/2016 2:25 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>> On 01-Mar-16 16:18, Dave Garland wrote:
>>> On 2/29/2016 2:32 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> You're the only person in the world who believes that the U.S.
>>>> Government practics "murder, theft, extortion and other sundry
>>>> activities" against its own citizens.  You're the out-liar here.
>>>
>>> While I think Roger is engaging in rhetorical excess, and I seldom
>>> agree with his politics, I don't think he explicitly said "against
>>> its own citizens". It's not too hard to find examples where the US
>>> Government has committed those acts against others
>>
>> There's a totally different set of arguments for such cases, but they
>> generally fall under a society's right to defend itself against acts
>> committed by other societies.  I do grant that the US often takes that
>> further than such logic supports, e.g. preemptive attacks.
>
> But now you're discussing the rationale for such acts, not whether or not 
> they occur.
>
>>> (even if we don't count the assassination in Yemen via drone strike
>>> of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a native-born American citizen).
>>
>> There are always going to be corner cases that require tweaking what
>> starts out as a simple general rule.  For that one, I think the right
>> answer is that US law says he forfeit his citizenship by voluntarily
>> joining a foreign army.
>
> I am not aware of any evidence that he had joined a foreign army. (When 
> killed, he was apparently sitting at an outdoor cafe.) In any case, to 
> forfeit citizenship, US law requires that the individual intend to 
> relinquish US citizenship when joining the foreign army, a situation that 
> the State Department's website says is rare. He did have the misfortune of 
> having a father that the US wanted dead.
>
>> (Dual citizens being drafted are the reason for the "voluntarily"
>> exception, but AFAIK that doesn't apply in this case.)
>
> True. I don't believe that he was a dual citizen, or that he had been 
> drafted.
>
>>> Though some of his examples did mention citizens being killed by
>>> police in routine traffic stops. Since police are government (though
>>> not Federal) employees, I'd say those count as government killings.
>>> I'd say those were aberrations but the lack of vigorous prosecution
>>> does suggest that government doesn't care,
>>
>> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>>
>> "The govt" is made up of people, and some of them do in fact care about
>> such issues, but they're hamstrung by a vocal minority who don't.
>
> Again, you're speaking to the reasons, not denying that the acts happen. I 
> realize that there are reasons (which may be good or bad), but it's hiding 
> your head in the sand to pretend the acts don't occur.
>
>>> any more than they cared to prosecute the responsible (higher-up)
>>> parties for My Lai or Abu Gharib.
>>
>> I don't know enough about My Lai, but in the case of Abu Ghraib, it is
>> still unclear whether any laws were actually broken.  (If not, IMHO we
>> need to make better laws, but they couldn't be retroactive.)
>
> Of course laws were broken. Its that there was no will to follow up 
> (except for a few low-level scapegoats) because ultiimately Important 
> People would be threatened. But in any case, it's mostly impossible for an 
> individual to go though a day without breaking laws, if the authorities 
> want to find them badly enough. ("If you give me six lines written by the 
> hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will 
> hang him." -Cardinal Richelieu)

That is a completely silly claim.

> They weren't after Al Capone because he cheated on his taxes, but that was 
> the hammer that worked.
> 

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#160804

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-03-10 09:48 -0600
Message-ID<nbs4qs$qff$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160481
On 02-Mar-16 16:51, Dave Garland wrote:
> On 3/2/2016 2:25 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>> On 01-Mar-16 16:18, Dave Garland wrote:
>>> On 2/29/2016 2:32 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> You're the only person in the world who believes that the U.S. 
>>>> Government practics "murder, theft, extortion and other sundry 
>>>> activities" against its own citizens.  You're the out-liar
>>>> here.
>>> 
>>> While I think Roger is engaging in rhetorical excess, and I
>>> seldom agree with his politics, I don't think he explicitly said
>>> "against its own citizens". It's not too hard to find examples
>>> where the US Government has committed those acts against others
>> 
>> There's a totally different set of arguments for such cases, but
>> they generally fall under a society's right to defend itself
>> against acts committed by other societies.  I do grant that the US
>> often takes that further than such logic supports, e.g. preemptive
>> attacks.
> 
> But now you're discussing the rationale for such acts, not whether
> or not they occur.

There is no legitimate debate as to whether govts kill people; however,
why they do so affects whether it counts as "murder".  Ditto for his
many other accusations.

>>> (even if we don't count the assassination in Yemen via drone
>>> strike of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a native-born American
>>> citizen).
>> 
>> There are always going to be corner cases that require tweaking
>> what starts out as a simple general rule.  For that one, I think
>> the right answer is that US law says he forfeit his citizenship by
>> voluntarily joining a foreign army.
> 
> I am not aware of any evidence that he had joined a foreign army.
> (When killed, he was apparently sitting at an outdoor cafe.)

Wasn't this the guy who joined al Qaeda?

>>> Though some of his examples did mention citizens being killed by 
>>> police in routine traffic stops. Since police are government
>>> (though not Federal) employees, I'd say those count as government
>>> killings. I'd say those were aberrations but the lack of vigorous
>>> prosecution does suggest that government doesn't care,
>> 
>> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>> 
>> "The govt" is made up of people, and some of them do in fact care
>> about such issues, but they're hamstrung by a vocal minority who
>> don't.
> 
> Again, you're speaking to the reasons, not denying that the acts
> happen. I realize that there are reasons (which may be good or bad),
> but it's hiding your head in the sand to pretend the acts don't
> occur.

I agree that cops kill people, including unarmed ones that are not in
any way resisting arrest or threatening the cops.  I also agree that
such cops should be prosecuted--and so do many others, both inside and
outside the govt.  But some do not.

The problem in practice is that local prosecutors and judges work with
those cops every day, which creates an obvious conflict of interest;
such cases should automatically have a change of venue and a special
prosecutor assigned to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.

>>> any more than they cared to prosecute the responsible
>>> (higher-up) parties for My Lai or Abu Gharib.
>> 
>> I don't know enough about My Lai, but in the case of Abu Ghraib, it
>> is still unclear whether any laws were actually broken.  (If not,
>> IMHO we need to make better laws, but they couldn't be
>> retroactive.)
> 
> Of course laws were broken.

Which ones?

There are a lot of things that people assume are illegal but aren't and
vice versa.

S

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#160816

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2016-03-10 13:29 -0600
Message-ID<nbshon$jjf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#160804
On 3/10/2016 9:48 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> On 02-Mar-16 16:51, Dave Garland wrote:
>> On 3/2/2016 2:25 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>>> On 01-Mar-16 16:18, Dave Garland wrote:
>>>> On 2/29/2016 2:32 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>> You're the only person in the world who believes that the U.S.
>>>>> Government practics "murder, theft, extortion and other sundry
>>>>> activities" against its own citizens.  You're the out-liar
>>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> While I think Roger is engaging in rhetorical excess, and I
>>>> seldom agree with his politics, I don't think he explicitly said
>>>> "against its own citizens". It's not too hard to find examples
>>>> where the US Government has committed those acts against others
>>>
>>> There's a totally different set of arguments for such cases, but
>>> they generally fall under a society's right to defend itself
>>> against acts committed by other societies.  I do grant that the US
>>> often takes that further than such logic supports, e.g. preemptive
>>> attacks.
>>
>> But now you're discussing the rationale for such acts, not whether
>> or not they occur.
>
> There is no legitimate debate as to whether govts kill people; however,
> why they do so affects whether it counts as "murder".  Ditto for his
> many other accusations.

I'm not sure that I agree that it depends on why they did the act. 
John Hinkley was trying to assassinate Ronald Reagan, not shoot his 
press secretary. We didn't say "he didn't intend to shoot Jim Brady, 
so he shouldn't be prosecuted for that" We know now that the Vietnam 
War went on because President Johnson didn't want to look like a loser.

How can anyone know "why" they do so? We cannot assume that the 
government inevitably tells us the truth. We don't automatically 
accept the word of the perpetrator in other instances. We inquire, 
adjudicate, and if the perp's profession of innocence or necessity 
appears to be BS, we punish.

>>>> (even if we don't count the assassination in Yemen via drone
>>>> strike of Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a native-born American
>>>> citizen).
>>>
>>> There are always going to be corner cases that require tweaking
>>> what starts out as a simple general rule.  For that one, I think
>>> the right answer is that US law says he forfeit his citizenship by
>>> voluntarily joining a foreign army.
>>
>> I am not aware of any evidence that he had joined a foreign army.
>> (When killed, he was apparently sitting at an outdoor cafe.)
>
> Wasn't this the guy who joined al Qaeda?

His dad was a big figure in AQ. Did he join? (What exactly does 
"joining" mean?) He was 16 and allegedly trying to find his dad. How 
would we know, aside from the word of his killer (who may be mistaken, 
or may be lying)?

>>>> Though some of his examples did mention citizens being killed by
>>>> police in routine traffic stops. Since police are government
>>>> (though not Federal) employees, I'd say those count as government
>>>> killings. I'd say those were aberrations but the lack of vigorous
>>>> prosecution does suggest that government doesn't care,
>>>
>>> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
>>>
>>> "The govt" is made up of people, and some of them do in fact care
>>> about such issues, but they're hamstrung by a vocal minority who
>>> don't.
>>
>> Again, you're speaking to the reasons, not denying that the acts
>> happen. I realize that there are reasons (which may be good or bad),
>> but it's hiding your head in the sand to pretend the acts don't
>> occur.
>
> I agree that cops kill people, including unarmed ones that are not in
> any way resisting arrest or threatening the cops.  I also agree that
> such cops should be prosecuted--and so do many others, both inside and
> outside the govt.  But some do not.
>
> The problem in practice is that local prosecutors and judges work with
> those cops every day, which creates an obvious conflict of interest;
> such cases should automatically have a change of venue and a special
> prosecutor assigned to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.

Of course that is much of the problem. We agree on that.

If a government employee kills someone, and "the government" (local 
prosecutors and judges) fails to act, or just circles the wagons, I'd 
say that by default the killing was tacitly approved, and an act of 
"the government", some level of government. However much you and I may 
complain that we don't approve.

No different from a lynching in Jim Crow days. If the government 
didn't act to find, arrest, and try the perps, we can assume that some 
level of government was giving its tacit approval.

>
>>>> any more than they cared to prosecute the responsible
>>>> (higher-up) parties for My Lai or Abu Gharib.
>>>
>>> I don't know enough about My Lai, but in the case of Abu Ghraib, it
>>> is still unclear whether any laws were actually broken.  (If not,
>>> IMHO we need to make better laws, but they couldn't be
>>> retroactive.)
>>
>> Of course laws were broken.
>
> Which ones?

I'm pretty sure it's a war crime to round up 400 civilians and execute 
them in cold blood. After WWII we hung Germans and Japanese for acts 
like that.

Abu Gharib? Torture, rape, sodomy, murder (see the wikipedia article). 
A handful of grunt soldiers (some of those carrying out the acts) were 
prosecuted, but not their superiors (up the chain to the Pentagon) who 
encouraged and authorized the acts. Well, the commanding general was 
demoted. Perhaps that's all the punishment called for, for torture, 
rape, sodomy, and murder. If so, somebody should let our local 
prosecutors know.

> There are a lot of things that people assume are illegal but aren't and
> vice versa.

Indeed.

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