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| Started by | philo <philo@privacy.net> |
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| First post | 2016-02-05 11:25 -0600 |
| Last post | 2016-03-22 13:12 +0000 |
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Qbasic philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-02-05 11:25 -0600
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-05 14:56 -0800
Re: Qbasic philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-02-05 18:13 -0600
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-05 22:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-02-05 22:32 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Gene Buckle" <gene.buckle@bbs.retroarchive.org.remove-3hg-this> - 2016-02-11 10:22 -0800
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-11 17:16 -0800
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-11 18:49 -0800
Re: Qbasic philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-02-12 05:25 -0600
Re: Qbasic "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-02-12 11:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-12 14:02 +0000
Re: Qbasic "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-02-12 23:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-12 09:50 -0800
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 06:53 -0500
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-12 13:40 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-12 09:53 -0800
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-13 14:37 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-12 14:04 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-12 09:55 -0800
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-12 20:49 +0000
Re: Qbasic Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-12 23:21 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-12 15:55 -0800
Re: Qbasic Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-13 00:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-16 15:55 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-12 21:09 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-12 17:11 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-12 23:27 -0800
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 06:26 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-16 15:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-17 11:34 -0800
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 19:56 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 12:48 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-17 18:52 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-17 19:23 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:00 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-18 15:02 -0800
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 20:36 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-19 04:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-19 20:05 -0600
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 21:34 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 08:03 -0600
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 11:09 -0500
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:39 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 12:05 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-20 13:47 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 14:21 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:06 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 23:29 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-20 22:48 -0600
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 19:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 09:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-21 23:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-18 18:04 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 05:59 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:30 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-21 18:34 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-20 21:03 -0800
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 05:53 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:27 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 12:52 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-21 12:23 -0800
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:17 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 18:36 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 14:03 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-22 13:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 11:05 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-22 11:19 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:39 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-25 06:18 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-25 06:53 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-25 08:45 -0600
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-25 15:56 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-25 18:19 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-25 10:25 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-25 16:07 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-25 16:28 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 16:01 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-25 18:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 10:15 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:30 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-27 13:06 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-26 19:05 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 20:49 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 14:33 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-26 21:46 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 06:44 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-27 11:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-28 12:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 16:34 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-28 17:47 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 07:40 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:28 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:46 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:31 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 17:23 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 18:13 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:14 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-28 21:04 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-29 09:31 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 07:43 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 08:21 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:43 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare pechter@chuckie.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-02-29 17:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-29 14:19 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 17:19 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-01 06:02 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-02 10:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:31 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-01 13:55 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-01 14:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:33 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-02 14:19 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 10:23 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 08:28 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-03 16:21 +0100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-03 16:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-03 16:23 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 03:58 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 15:06 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-03 15:57 +0100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-04 09:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-04 11:11 +0100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-04 16:22 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-05 03:05 +0100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 19:31 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-04 19:25 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-05 11:14 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-05 09:50 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-05 17:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 20:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 20:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-05 20:36 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-05 22:08 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-06 09:46 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-06 09:59 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-06 18:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-06 17:25 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-07 01:13 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-06 17:26 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-15 12:32 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 18:04 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-07 14:09 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 11:18 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 11:57 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 16:24 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-08 08:18 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-11 11:40 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-13 10:14 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 11:24 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 07:34 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-06 17:25 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 12:14 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare pechter@mongo.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-03-07 02:49 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 15:47 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-06 19:54 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 12:02 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-05 14:53 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-05 23:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-05 21:57 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-06 00:26 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-07 01:13 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 17:29 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-06 02:52 -0400
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 11:16 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 07:30 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-06 17:37 -0400
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:12 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 19:52 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:39 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:59 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-07 14:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 03:11 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-08 13:16 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 08:07 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 14:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-09 00:32 +0000
Re: Basic - lies about Medicare "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 11:58 +1100
Re: Basic - lies about Medicare mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-09 11:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-09 11:25 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 15:01 -0800
Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 07:18 -0700
Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-08 15:06 -0400
Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-09 13:41 +0000
Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 06:48 -0700
Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 04:44 +1100
Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-10 13:24 +0000
Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-10 14:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 05:09 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-03-08 11:23 -0800
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-06 09:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:57 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-07 01:13 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 11:51 +1100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:38 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 12:57 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:08 -0700
Re: computer security hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-04 14:36 -0800
Re: computer security Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 19:31 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-05 13:57 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:37 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-06 00:35 +0100
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 21:34 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-17 13:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-03-17 14:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-18 12:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 15:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-02 10:37 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 10:47 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-27 00:28 -0500
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 06:44 -0700
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-28 14:03 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:47 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 14:52 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 09:25 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:33 -0600
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-27 08:32 +0000
Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-27 11:21 -0500
Re: Qbasic pechter@chuckie.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-02-25 15:31 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-25 10:22 -0600
Re: Qbasic pechter@chuckie.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-02-25 17:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-25 08:11 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-25 10:40 -0600
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 04:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-23 12:29 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-24 13:55 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 15:24 -0600
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 09:13 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:23 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 17:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 17:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:41 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-22 01:21 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 14:00 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:48 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-22 16:43 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 20:49 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 18:15 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 17:59 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 19:30 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:20 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-24 17:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 14:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 05:25 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-25 10:22 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 04:31 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 15:53 -0800
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 21:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 14:55 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 20:18 -0800
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:23 -0500
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-26 12:15 +0100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:24 -0800
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:14 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-25 23:34 -0600
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:38 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:46 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-26 10:14 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:15 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 14:23 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 15:50 -0500
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:46 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 18:25 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:40 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:32 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 10:39 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:23 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 14:27 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 07:22 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:03 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 13:52 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 13:56 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-26 12:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-26 23:12 -0500
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-27 09:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-27 14:37 -0500
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-27 17:08 -0800
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-28 09:57 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-28 15:56 +0100
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-28 19:00 -0800
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-29 22:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-01 22:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-02 13:46 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-02 21:09 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-03 05:33 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-02 19:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 15:45 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 16:27 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-03 01:02 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-16 17:59 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-17 10:42 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-27 19:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:21 -0800
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-27 20:19 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 08:27 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:25 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:30 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 15:00 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 13:52 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 17:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-27 18:22 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-27 17:12 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:23 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 05:43 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:34 +1100
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:41 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 11:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 14:57 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:55 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-29 09:25 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:46 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:22 -0600
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 16:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 09:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:17 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:25 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:20 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:35 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:35 +1100
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:19 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-08 00:48 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:49 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:49 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 11:03 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 15:56 -0600
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:30 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0600
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:10 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 10:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 18:41 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:12 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:18 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 03:28 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:48 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:09 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:15 -0600
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:22 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:13 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:28 -0800
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-28 12:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:32 +1100
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:40 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:36 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 18:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 20:27 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:22 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:40 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 06:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:35 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:00 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:54 +1100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 10:51 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:05 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-28 22:06 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:01 +1100
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-29 08:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 05:01 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0800
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-01 10:12 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:59 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:59 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 16:06 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 09:12 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:37 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:24 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:18 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 06:04 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 11:33 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-13 11:25 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:47 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-28 10:58 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:51 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 04:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:38 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:44 +1100
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:46 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:59 +1100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:56 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 22:53 -0600
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:44 -0600
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 14:02 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:51 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 11:36 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:58 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:20 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 10:16 -0800
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0800
Re: Qbasic Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 21:03 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:23 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:02 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 11:18 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:19 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-01 15:14 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:24 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:53 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:13 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:15 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-09 12:38 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-09 19:15 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 05:06 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 09:35 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 07:42 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 04:14 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-10 15:52 -0600
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-02 14:19 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 07:23 -0700
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-02 07:29 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:04 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-02 12:50 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 11:55 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 19:40 +0000
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:34 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 11:47 -0800
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 22:07 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:16 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 15:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 03:44 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 16:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-02 15:08 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:19 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:11 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:56 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:21 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 10:57 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:56 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-01 13:55 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:28 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:41 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:24 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 14:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-03-21 20:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:16 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 18:44 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 21:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 23:13 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:25 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 23:36 -0500
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-22 12:56 +0100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:11 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:33 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 10:32 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 10:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 17:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:10 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-22 19:41 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 05:09 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 11:09 +1100
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-25 08:50 -0400
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-25 10:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:34 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 12:58 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:01 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 16:07 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 16:39 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 10:49 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 10:41 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-29 10:26 -0500
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-29 12:56 -0500
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 18:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:53 -0800
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 19:21 +0000
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 20:19 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 20:32 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 16:18 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 14:25 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-02 16:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:17 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-10 09:48 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 13:29 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-10 18:27 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 20:14 -0600
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-11 11:06 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-11 10:09 -0600
Re: Qbasic Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:21 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-11 10:28 -0800
Re: Qbasic Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:12 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-11 19:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-10 16:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 17:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 00:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 18:59 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-03 10:48 -0600
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:52 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 18:11 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-16 20:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:26 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 13:52 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:10 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:44 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 13:36 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 12:55 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:21 +1100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-02 08:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 11:57 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 15:13 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 17:32 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 13:36 -0600
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 19:44 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 12:14 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 14:43 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 18:06 -0800
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:44 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 11:23 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 15:03 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 14:04 -0800
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 16:16 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-11 17:02 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 19:01 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 09:47 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-04 11:25 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 12:32 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:34 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 16:02 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-04 10:54 -0800
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-04 20:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:41 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:28 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 17:34 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 14:42 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 22:37 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 09:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 09:22 -0600
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:45 -0400
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-08 17:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 10:38 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 22:11 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 09:10 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:38 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 13:07 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 11:27 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 16:28 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 14:05 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 14:28 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 17:37 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 16:10 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 18:00 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:07 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 20:06 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:39 -0400
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 20:23 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:17 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 20:15 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 08:13 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 07:24 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 08:53 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-08 10:58 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 15:34 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-09 14:39 +0000
Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 10:05 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-09 09:41 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 04:57 +1100
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-09 21:11 +0000
Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 15:23 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-10 17:40 +0000
Re: Trump vs. Hillary scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:31 +0000
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:25 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 18:33 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 18:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-07 12:59 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 08:44 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 09:19 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:29 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:21 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 15:45 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 17:52 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:42 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:11 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-07 13:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 10:31 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-03 19:28 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:19 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 11:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 17:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:20 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-16 22:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 09:44 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-16 12:10 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-16 19:53 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 17:01 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-17 07:39 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-18 12:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Jim Bank" <jb410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:02 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-18 12:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 10:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-19 13:23 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-17 07:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 11:54 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 12:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-18 15:42 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 17:54 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-18 17:47 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 19:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-18 21:09 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-20 12:55 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-20 14:39 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-21 07:53 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-21 20:48 -0400
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-19 12:56 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-19 17:07 -0600
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-20 03:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 07:45 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-20 06:09 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 09:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic "John Akers" <ja5443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 04:41 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 13:21 -0600
Re: Qbasic "John Akers" <ja5443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 08:09 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 16:37 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 13:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 17:02 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 18:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-21 15:57 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-21 11:24 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 16:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-21 17:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 12:55 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:03 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 16:26 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 07:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:56 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 10:56 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 11:14 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:07 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-22 17:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-23 10:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-13 07:57 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-21 19:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:13 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:27 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:31 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 08:31 -0700
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-21 20:17 +0100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 12:42 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:33 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:58 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 16:28 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-19 13:12 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 16:48 -0700
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-03-20 00:37 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-20 12:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 13:05 -0600
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-20 12:43 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 14:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 19:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 16:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 19:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:06 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 19:03 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 12:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 12:17 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 12:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 17:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 12:55 -0600
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-22 11:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 14:00 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 14:32 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:53 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:03 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 19:34 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 17:57 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 21:47 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-23 18:34 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 14:39 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 07:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-23 09:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-23 16:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-23 17:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-23 18:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:30 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-23 15:16 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:51 +1100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-24 01:14 +0100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-23 22:36 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 19:02 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 14:29 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-24 13:03 +0000
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-25 12:57 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-25 09:22 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:03 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-26 13:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:14 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 12:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 07:55 +0100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-29 13:55 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last,name.invalid> - 2016-03-29 17:12 +0200
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 09:17 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 05:43 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 05:39 +0100
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 17:26 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 09:56 +0100
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:29 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 23:06 +0100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:14 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:08 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 15:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-31 11:17 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 05:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 15:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 09:17 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 17:59 +0100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:17 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-30 11:01 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-30 15:13 -0600
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:14 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 15:53 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 20:02 +0000
Re: Qbasic pechter@cobalt.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-04-01 16:02 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-01 12:27 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-29 14:05 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 20:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 09:41 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:15 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 15:17 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:07 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:22 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 16:05 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:45 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:06 -0500
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:22 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-29 22:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 17:29 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:19 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 19:52 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-02 13:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 15:16 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:58 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 19:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:13 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 09:15 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 21:19 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-31 11:23 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-31 12:33 -0700
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-31 12:16 +0200
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:00 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-31 12:41 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-31 13:10 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-31 11:27 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:39 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:55 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:11 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:20 -0500
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-30 11:48 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 15:56 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:11 +1100
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-31 16:41 -0400
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:10 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 16:27 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-29 17:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 17:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-29 23:20 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-31 11:19 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 19:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-02 13:24 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-03 08:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 13:47 +0200
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:48 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 12:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 14:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 18:38 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-09 18:23 +0200
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 14:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 20:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 04:03 +1000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:45 -0400
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-03 14:45 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:34 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-05 13:10 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-05 10:16 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:05 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-25 12:15 -0600
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-26 11:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-26 12:43 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 12:24 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:31 +1100
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:24 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-28 15:53 -0600
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 21:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-25 22:48 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-26 07:04 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:18 +1100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-26 17:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-26 19:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-26 20:22 +0000
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 04:34 -0300
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-27 09:18 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-27 17:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-27 13:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 04:21 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-26 13:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:17 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-26 12:47 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:50 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:48 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 07:29 +0100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 09:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-24 09:52 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 10:18 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-24 10:39 -0600
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 09:21 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 10:37 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 11:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 14:19 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-11 23:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 13:25 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 07:15 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 13:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 05:26 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 13:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-25 12:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:09 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 13:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 04:43 -0300
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-27 13:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 04:45 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-27 13:02 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-27 19:11 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-27 15:25 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-27 15:40 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-27 17:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 11:10 +1100
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 11:08 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 09:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 11:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 12:02 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 07:32 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-27 17:48 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-27 15:53 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-28 13:29 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 12:50 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:34 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 21:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 13:11 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 14:47 +0100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 15:49 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:15 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:17 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:22 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:25 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 20:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-01 07:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-01 09:14 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-01 13:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-02 06:23 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-02 08:33 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 12:27 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 20:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 17:45 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-28 13:30 -0500
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 13:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 18:31 -0300
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 16:32 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 09:30 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 04:17 +1100
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 04:57 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 12:50 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 04:30 +1100
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:55 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-04 11:01 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-04 19:43 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-04 23:31 +0200
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-04 17:15 -0500
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-05 00:42 +0200
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:41 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:20 +1100
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-28 14:56 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:30 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 12:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:11 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-29 20:33 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:18 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 16:07 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 15:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 09:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-23 19:58 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:45 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:07 -0600
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 07:20 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:24 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-22 19:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-23 11:05 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-23 09:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 06:30 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 10:07 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 10:37 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-24 14:03 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 14:46 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-24 16:59 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 13:59 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:23 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-25 13:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:54 -0700
Re: Qbasic Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-21 17:46 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-22 11:31 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-22 13:15 +0100
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 04:48 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Jim Bank" <jb410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-16 18:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 21:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:48 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 00:49 -0700
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-17 09:28 +0100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-17 10:45 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:16 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-17 12:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 06:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 13:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:22 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-18 18:12 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-18 17:47 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 20:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 07:28 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 13:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:12 +0000
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2124431029.478723523.365881.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #160530 |
Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: > On 03-Mar-16 03:08, Andrew Swallow wrote: >> On 01/03/2016 18:18, Stephen Sprunk wrote: >>> On 01-Mar-16 04:37, Andrew Swallow wrote: >>>> A threshold for a flat tax can be introduced. People would get a >>>> tax refund. >>> >>> Congratulations; you have reinvented the "Negative Income Tax". >>> If we're going to tax income at all, that's the best way to do it, >>> mostly because it eliminates the need for a separate welfare >>> system. >> >> The big problems are only one rebate a year > > For cash flow reasons, it would be much better for the govt to issue > refunds monthly rather than an annual lump sum, even if the filing is > done annually (or quarterly, for some people). > >> and it is a year behind. > > That's only an issue for the first year, and even that could be easily > solved by moving to quarterly filing. > >> This makes life very difficult for people with out an income. > > Only if you deliberately implement it wrong, and if you're doing that, > why not just stick with the broken system we already have? > > S > "Just send us all your money, and we'll send you back enough to live on." -- Pete
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-13 11:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <871t7enskj.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #160306 |
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes: > in addition to the tax evasion that was legalized last decade, in 2009, > IRS announced there was still another $400B in unpaid taxes on money > illegally hidden off-shore and were going after the 52,000 wealthy > americans responsible. Then in 2011, the new congress announces it was > cutting the budget of the IRS department responsible for recoverying the > funds > http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#tax.evasion since then there has been news about a few billion in fines for the "too big to fail" that facilitated the tax evasion http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail ... but nothing about recoverying the $400B. given the record on funding recovery of the $400B in tax evasion, what is the chance of this (recovery $134 for every dollar appropriated): GAO to lawmakers: Spend money with us to save money governmentwide http://federalnewsradio.com/hearingsoversight/2016/03/gao-lawmakers-spend-money-save-money/ and to further upset the military-industrial-congressional complex http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex Pentagon Watchdog Changed Files Ahead of GAO Audit http://www.pogo.org/straus/issues/military-reform/2016/letter-to-pentagon-watchdog.html A Guaranteed Taxpayer Rip-Off? http://www.pogo.org/blog/2016/03/a-guaranteed-taxpayer-ripoff.html re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#65 Qbasic http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#67 Qbasic http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#83 Qbasic - lies about Medicare http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#84 Trump vs. Hillary http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#85 Qbasic - lies about Medicare http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#98 Qbasic - lies about Medicare http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#107 Qbasic - lies about Medicare -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 09:47 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <djhborF5m3gU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160273 |
"Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:1587a5a2-67ca-4564-8ace-daf48293ec4d@googlegroups.com... > On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 9:32:07 AM UTC-7, Alexis wrote: >> On 26/02/2016 18:20, Peter Flass wrote: >>> Many people do not like lots of semi-poor people not having health >>> cover. >>> Government is the organisation for collective action >> Yes. where >>> payment is compulsory. >> No. You are free to not earn any taxable income so >> you don't have to pay any income tax > > That does not negate the coercive nature of taxation. I was JUST commenting on the claim that payment is compulsory. It isn't. > People earn money through a voluntary agreement with their employer; Quit often they don't and what the employer pays is determined by minimum wage law etc. > they purchase things through a voluntary agreement with the seller; Not necessarily, depends on what other sellers are offering. > they pay rent for accommodations through > a voluntary agreement with the landlord. Not necessarily, particularly with public housing. > The taxation added on to this, though, is just > imposed coercively on the contracting parties. Not it is not, you are free to do things in a way that does not incur taxation.
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| From | "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-28 10:58 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <djgn9uF9ndU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160270 |
"Alexis" wrote: > "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:Mb-dnSnVnqJtc0_LnZ2dnUU78L2dnZ2d@giganews.com... >> On 26/02/2016 18:20, Peter Flass wrote: >>> If that were true, why does the government thinks it has to tell people >>> what kind of health insurance to have? Good, bad, or terrible, it >>> should >>> be up to the individual. >> >> Because they like bossing people around? >> >> Many people do not like lots of semi-poor people not having health cover. >> Government is the organisation for collective action > > Yes. > > where >> payment is compulsory. > > No. You are free to not earn any taxable income so > you don’t have to pay any income tax, free to grow > your own food so you don’t have to pay sales tax, > free to not own a house etc so you don’t pay > property tax, free to not rent where you stay so > you don’t even pay any property tax indirectly, > free to never pay to use a car, just walk everywhere > or ride a free bike you got off freecycle etc. > > Of course that will cripple your lifestyle considerably, > but it is still perfectly legal to do it that way. Have you switched sides?
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| From | "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 09:51 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <djhbvsF5nt0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160278 |
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message news:djgn9uF9ndU1@mid.individual.net... > "Alexis" wrote: > >> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:Mb-dnSnVnqJtc0_LnZ2dnUU78L2dnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> On 26/02/2016 18:20, Peter Flass wrote: >>>> If that were true, why does the government thinks it has to tell people >>>> what kind of health insurance to have? Good, bad, or terrible, it >>>> should >>>> be up to the individual. >>> >>> Because they like bossing people around? >>> >>> Many people do not like lots of semi-poor people not having health >>> cover. Government is the organisation for collective action >> >> Yes. >> >> where >>> payment is compulsory. >> >> No. You are free to not earn any taxable income so >> you don’t have to pay any income tax, free to grow >> your own food so you don’t have to pay sales tax, >> free to not own a house etc so you don’t pay >> property tax, free to not rent where you stay so >> you don’t even pay any property tax indirectly, >> free to never pay to use a car, just walk everywhere >> or ride a free bike you got off freecycle etc. >> >> Of course that will cripple your lifestyle considerably, >> but it is still perfectly legal to do it that way. > > Have you switched sides? No, and there are no sides.
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| From | mausg@mail.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 16:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnd8qqu.19h.mausg@smaus.org> |
| In reply to | #160288 |
On 2016-02-28, Alexis <ggyy@gmail.com> wrote: > > > "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:djgn9uF9ndU1@mid.individual.net... >> "Alexis" wrote: >> >>> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:Mb-dnSnVnqJtc0_LnZ2dnUU78L2dnZ2d@giganews.com... >>>> On 26/02/2016 18:20, Peter Flass wrote: >>>>> If that were true, why does the government thinks it has to tell people >>>>> what kind of health insurance to have? Good, bad, or terrible, it >>>>> should >>>>> be up to the individual. >>>> >>>> Because they like bossing people around? >>>> >>>> Many people do not like lots of semi-poor people not having health >>>> cover. Government is the organisation for collective action >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> where >>>> payment is compulsory. >>> >>> No. You are free to not earn any taxable income so >>> you don???t have to pay any income tax, free to grow >>> your own food so you don???t have to pay sales tax, >>> free to not own a house etc so you don???t pay >>> property tax, free to not rent where you stay so >>> you don???t even pay any property tax indirectly, >>> free to never pay to use a car, just walk everywhere >>> or ride a free bike you got off freecycle etc. >>> >>> Of course that will cripple your lifestyle considerably, >>> but it is still perfectly legal to do it that way. >> >> Have you switched sides? > > No, and there are no sides. > Moebius? -- greymaus . . ...
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| From | Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 04:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160228225831@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #160270 |
On 2016-02-28, Alexis <ggyy@gmail.com> wrote: >> Many people do not like lots of semi-poor people not having health cover. >> Government is the organisation for collective action > > Yes. No. Government is the organization for murder, theft, extortion, slavery, destruction, and a wide variety of criminal activities on a mass scale. That's not even up for debate, any history book will confirm that this is the case. To get the fuzzballs out of your head you need to stop giving the institution of government a special status that it does not merit and view its behavior and operating methods the same way as you would for any private organization or individual. Once you do so government's true nature, that of a particularly violent and bloodthirsty criminal enterprise, quickly becomes apparent. The essential criminal nature of the State does not change if it is believed to be "necessary" or if it happens to build roads or provide other services you may find desirable. It also does not change whether or not an immediately articulable alternative to its existence is available. Nor does that intrinsic nature change if those laboring under government's iron fist (velvent glove or not) are permitted to choose the dons who rule over them. Criminality is still criminality and necessary evils are still evil. Apologists for the State say if you don't like government go live in the woods. This is no different than saying if you don't like your local hoodlums' protection scheme just move away from them and see if you like the hoodlums down the road better. Some government lays claim to virtually every square inch of the planet and will enforce its protection racket with whatever level of violence it deems necessary. (As the saying goes, the State reserves the right to kill you over an overdue library book.) Even if you do attempt to get off the plantation by going to some out of the way place, the State will ultimately still come after you. Some have found this out the hard way. The territory-based claim of government "jurisdiction" is no different than that of gangsters engaging in a protection racket. In both cases, "authority" is based on their ability to physically lay their hands on you and commit violence against your person. Sorry, I will not sing the praises of an organization that operates on violence and coercion and whose major discernable difference from the Mafia is that it is has more blood on its hands. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-02-28 20:38 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <b37765be-d09a-40db-a07d-7a22bceb8a6e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #160296 |
On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 9:20:43 PM UTC-7, Roger Blake wrote: > No. Government is the organization for murder, theft, extortion, slavery, > destruction, and a wide variety of criminal activities on a mass scale. > That's not even up for debate, any history book will confirm that this > is the case. > > To get the fuzzballs out of your head you need to stop giving the > institution of government a special status that it does not merit and > view its behavior and operating methods the same way as you would for > any private organization or individual. Once you do so government's > true nature, that of a particularly violent and bloodthirsty criminal > enterprise, quickly becomes apparent. > > The essential criminal nature of the State does not change if it is > believed to be "necessary" or if it happens to build roads or provide > other services you may find desirable. It also does not change whether > or not an immediately articulable alternative to its existence is > available. Nor does that intrinsic nature change if those laboring > under government's iron fist (velvent glove or not) are permitted to > choose the dons who rule over them. Criminality is still criminality > and necessary evils are still evil. > > Apologists for the State say if you don't like government go live in > the woods. This is no different than saying if you don't like your > local hoodlums' protection scheme just move away from them and see > if you like the hoodlums down the road better. Some government lays > claim to virtually every square inch of the planet and will enforce its > protection racket with whatever level of violence it deems necessary. (As > the saying goes, the State reserves the right to kill you over an overdue > library book.) Even if you do attempt to get off the plantation by going > to some out of the way place, the State will ultimately still come after > you. Some have found this out the hard way. > > The territory-based claim of government "jurisdiction" is no different > than that of gangsters engaging in a protection racket. In both cases, > "authority" is based on their ability to physically lay their hands on > you and commit violence against your person. > > Sorry, I will not sing the praises of an organization that operates on > violence and coercion and whose major discernable difference from the Mafia > is that it is has more blood on its hands. There is truth in what you have written here. And, no doubt, you believe what you are writing because you read similar sentiments as those written down by others. I think you've been fooled, though. Lies which contain truth are the most deceptive, as Rudyard Kipling noted - oh, good heavens, when I Googled the exact quote, it's actually Alfred, Lord Tennyson who wrote And the parson made it his text that week, and he said likewise, That a lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies, That a lie which is all a lie may be met and fought with outright, But a lie which is part a truth is a harder matter to fight. in his poem "The Grandmother". However, your paragraph > The essential criminal nature of the State does not change if it is > believed to be "necessary" or if it happens to build roads or provide > other services you may find desirable. It also does not change whether > or not an immediately articulable alternative to its existence is > available. Nor does that intrinsic nature change if those laboring > under government's iron fist (velvent glove or not) are permitted to > choose the dons who rule over them. Criminality is still criminality > and necessary evils are still evil. concedes enough for me. I don't think that an alternative to government is available under present circumstances, at least I've seen no practical proposal for one. Given that, though, of course government is still a "necessary evil", and it would be nice if we could do without it. But many of us feel that Utopian dreams are a waste of time. So if your point were _merely_ that from a standpoint of abstract morality, government is wrong, I would not have a problem with it. From a more practical standpoint, though, I believe that the form of government known as representative democracy is the best known form of social organization for the purpose of securing as much individual liberty as can actually be secured in real life in the real world. The blame for this limitation goes to foreign tyrants, not our own politicians. John Savard
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| From | "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 16:44 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dji45hFb2skU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160298 |
"Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message news:b37765be-d09a-40db-a07d-7a22bceb8a6e@googlegroups.com... > On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 9:20:43 PM UTC-7, Roger Blake wrote: > >> No. Government is the organization for murder, theft, extortion, slavery, >> destruction, and a wide variety of criminal activities on a mass scale. >> That's not even up for debate, any history book will confirm that this >> is the case. >> >> To get the fuzzballs out of your head you need to stop giving the >> institution of government a special status that it does not merit and >> view its behavior and operating methods the same way as you would for >> any private organization or individual. Once you do so government's >> true nature, that of a particularly violent and bloodthirsty criminal >> enterprise, quickly becomes apparent. >> >> The essential criminal nature of the State does not change if it is >> believed to be "necessary" or if it happens to build roads or provide >> other services you may find desirable. It also does not change whether >> or not an immediately articulable alternative to its existence is >> available. Nor does that intrinsic nature change if those laboring >> under government's iron fist (velvent glove or not) are permitted to >> choose the dons who rule over them. Criminality is still criminality >> and necessary evils are still evil. >> >> Apologists for the State say if you don't like government go live in >> the woods. This is no different than saying if you don't like your >> local hoodlums' protection scheme just move away from them and see >> if you like the hoodlums down the road better. Some government lays >> claim to virtually every square inch of the planet and will enforce its >> protection racket with whatever level of violence it deems necessary. (As >> the saying goes, the State reserves the right to kill you over an overdue >> library book.) Even if you do attempt to get off the plantation by going >> to some out of the way place, the State will ultimately still come after >> you. Some have found this out the hard way. >> >> The territory-based claim of government "jurisdiction" is no different >> than that of gangsters engaging in a protection racket. In both cases, >> "authority" is based on their ability to physically lay their hands on >> you and commit violence against your person. >> >> Sorry, I will not sing the praises of an organization that operates on >> violence and coercion and whose major discernable difference from the >> Mafia >> is that it is has more blood on its hands. > > There is truth in what you have written here. No there is not. > And, no doubt, you believe what you are writing because you read similar > sentiments as those written down by others. Or he has decided that for himself. Just like you do. > I think you've been fooled, though. He's fooled himself. > Lies which contain truth are the most deceptive, as Rudyard Kipling > noted - oh, good heavens, when I Googled the exact quote, it's > actually Alfred, Lord Tennyson who wrote > And the parson made it his text that week, and he said likewise, > That a lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies, > That a lie which is all a lie may be met and fought with outright, > But a lie which is part a truth is a harder matter to fight. > > in his poem "The Grandmother". > > However, your paragraph >> The essential criminal nature of the State does not change if it is >> believed to be "necessary" or if it happens to build roads or provide >> other services you may find desirable. It also does not change whether >> or not an immediately articulable alternative to its existence is >> available. Nor does that intrinsic nature change if those laboring >> under government's iron fist (velvent glove or not) are permitted to >> choose the dons who rule over them. Criminality is still criminality >> and necessary evils are still evil. > > concedes enough for me. > > I don't think that an alternative to government is available under present > circumstances, Under any circumstances except tiny groups of isolated individuals in fact. > at least I've seen no practical proposal for one. > > Given that, though, of course government is still a "necessary evil", It isnt an evil. > and it would be nice if we could do without it. But we can't. > But many of us feel that Utopian dreams are a waste of time. And don't work. > So if your point were _merely_ that from a standpoint of abstract > morality, > government is wrong, I would not have a problem with it. More fool you. > From a more practical standpoint, though, I believe that the form of > government > known as representative democracy is the best known form of social > organization > for the purpose of securing as much individual liberty as can actually be > secured in real life in the real world. > > The blame for this limitation goes to foreign tyrants, not our own > politicians. There are no relevant foreign tyrants anymore.
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| From | Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 05:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160229004647@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #160304 |
On 2016-02-29, Sangmo <ju410@gmail.com> wrote: > It isnt an evil. So you are OK with violence, coercion, murder, torture, theft, extortion, etc., as long as the organization doing these acts calls itself "government." Those things are not "evil" as far as you are concerned as long as the State is doing the dirty work in a controlled manner that suits you. (And of course as long as you are not on the receiving end of the State's wrath.) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 18:59 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <djic2aFct3gU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160305 |
"Roger Blake" <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote in message news:20160229004647@news.eternal-september.org... > On 2016-02-29, Sangmo <ju410@gmail.com> wrote: >> It isnt an evil. > > So you are OK with violence, coercion, murder, torture, theft, extortion, > etc., as long as the organization doing these acts calls itself > "government." Hurling insults is hardly rational argument. > Those things are not "evil" as far as you are concerned as long > as the State is doing the dirty work in a controlled manner that > suits you. Nothing to do with what suits me. What matter is what the voters have decided they want government to do. > (And of course as long as you are not on > the receiving end of the State's wrath.) Not going to happen because I'm not actually stupid enough to run around with guns playing cowboys and indians. I gave that up more than 60 years ago now.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 09:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160229095636.ddc791940a37321123c2ce92@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #160298 |
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:38:35 -0800 (PST) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote: > On Sunday, February 28, 2016 at 9:20:43 PM UTC-7, Roger Blake wrote: > > > No. Government is the organization for murder, theft, extortion, > > slavery, destruction, and a wide variety of criminal activities on a > > mass scale. That's not even up for debate, any history book will > > confirm that this is the case. > > > > To get the fuzzballs out of your head you need to stop giving the > > institution of government a special status that it does not merit and > > view its behavior and operating methods the same way as you would for > > any private organization or individual. Once you do so government's > > true nature, that of a particularly violent and bloodthirsty criminal > > enterprise, quickly becomes apparent. > > > > The essential criminal nature of the State does not change if it is > > believed to be "necessary" or if it happens to build roads or provide > > other services you may find desirable. It also does not change whether > > or not an immediately articulable alternative to its existence is > > available. Nor does that intrinsic nature change if those laboring > > under government's iron fist (velvent glove or not) are permitted to > > choose the dons who rule over them. Criminality is still criminality > > and necessary evils are still evil. > > > > Apologists for the State say if you don't like government go live in > > the woods. This is no different than saying if you don't like your > > local hoodlums' protection scheme just move away from them and see > > if you like the hoodlums down the road better. Some government lays > > claim to virtually every square inch of the planet and will enforce its > > protection racket with whatever level of violence it deems necessary. > > (As the saying goes, the State reserves the right to kill you over an > > overdue library book.) Even if you do attempt to get off the > > plantation by going to some out of the way place, the State will > > ultimately still come after you. Some have found this out the hard way. > > > > The territory-based claim of government "jurisdiction" is no different > > than that of gangsters engaging in a protection racket. In both cases, > > "authority" is based on their ability to physically lay their hands on > > you and commit violence against your person. > > > > Sorry, I will not sing the praises of an organization that operates on > > violence and coercion and whose major discernable difference from the > > Mafia is that it is has more blood on its hands. > > There is truth in what you have written here. Yes there is - it misses the detail that government, now, exists primarily to serve the people it taxes unlike any other organisation - at least that's the idea[1]. It also lacks any hint of suggestion of a better alternative - suggestions that he may prefer Somalia have been ignored (I seriously doubt he - or anyone - would). I would love to know of a system better than a tax imposing government for maintaining a good place to live. So far I've not come across one except as completely untried theory. [1] There's some sort of government quality measure in there - the extent to which it serves the people vs. the extent to which it serves itself. Very hard to define but perhaps not too hard to form reasonable impressions. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-28 22:53 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nb0iml$omk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #160296 |
On 2/28/2016 10:17 PM, Roger Blake wrote: > On 2016-02-28, Alexis <ggyy@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Many people do not like lots of semi-poor people not having health cover. >>> Government is the organisation for collective action >> >> Yes. > > No. Government is the organization for murder, theft, extortion, slavery, > destruction, and a wide variety of criminal activities on a mass scale. > That's not even up for debate, any history book will confirm that this > is the case. C'mon Roger, you're just thinking about the military.
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| From | Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 05:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160229002801@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #160299 |
On 2016-02-29, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: > C'mon Roger, you're just thinking about the military. Who commands the military? How many people were traumatized, maimed, butchered, and/or killed in Vietnam? Iraq? Who was brought to justice for initiating those criminal acts? (None, of course. And that is only two examples.) The State leaves a trail of bloody, beaten corpses in its wake as matter of course. (Would you tolerate this from any privately-owned company, no matter what services it provided?) Government at all levels has indulged in death, destruction, and plunder. Hell, people have been brutalized and even killed over routine traffic stops because they didn't submit fast enough to a cop's author-itay. As far as government is concerned THEY OWN YOU. Your life and your property are theirs to dispose of as they see fit. If you don't like it and offer resistance they will cage you or kill you. Bottom line. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 06:44 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nb1eaf$d1a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #160302 |
On 2/28/2016 11:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote: > On 2016-02-29, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >> C'mon Roger, you're just thinking about the military. > > Who commands the military? How many people were traumatized, maimed, > butchered, and/or killed in Vietnam? Iraq? Who was brought to justice > for initiating those criminal acts? (None, of course. And that is only > two examples.) The State leaves a trail of bloody, beaten corpses in > its wake as matter of course. (Would you tolerate this from any > privately-owned company, no matter what services it provided?) > > Government at all levels has indulged in death, destruction, and plunder. > Hell, people have been brutalized and even killed over routine traffic > stops because they didn't submit fast enough to a cop's author-itay. > > As far as government is concerned THEY OWN YOU. Your life and your property > are theirs to dispose of as they see fit. If you don't like it and offer > resistance they will cage you or kill you. Bottom line. > That is all true. But without government, you have no rights, no property, no corporations, no constitutions, no ownership, other than what you can secure and hold by your own hand. And it likely won't be much, or for long. We're a social species. And once there are more than a handful of us, that seems to imply government, of one form or another, whether based on nation-states or something else..
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 14:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <u3sdqc-sc5.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #160317 |
In article <nb1eaf$d1a$1@dont-email.me>, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >On 2/28/2016 11:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote: >> On 2016-02-29, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >>> C'mon Roger, you're just thinking about the military. >> >> Who commands the military? How many people were traumatized, maimed, >> butchered, and/or killed in Vietnam? Iraq? Who was brought to justice >> for initiating those criminal acts? (None, of course. And that is only >> two examples.) The State leaves a trail of bloody, beaten corpses in >> its wake as matter of course. (Would you tolerate this from any >> privately-owned company, no matter what services it provided?) >> >> Government at all levels has indulged in death, destruction, and plunder. >> Hell, people have been brutalized and even killed over routine traffic >> stops because they didn't submit fast enough to a cop's author-itay. >> >> As far as government is concerned THEY OWN YOU. Your life and your property >> are theirs to dispose of as they see fit. If you don't like it and offer >> resistance they will cage you or kill you. Bottom line. >> >That is all true. > >But without government, you have no rights, no property, no >corporations, no constitutions, no ownership, other than what you can >secure and hold by your own hand. And it likely won't be much, or for >long. > >We're a social species. And once there are more than a handful of us, >that seems to imply government, of one form or another, whether based >on nation-states or something else.. The state is the legal monopoly on physical force. That is the common definition. This implies that it is ruled by law, and that it can outgun anyone else on it's territory. This means that it needs courts, police and a military force. It may also have civil servants, but that is technically optional. That is it. However, we have come to the conclusion that the state can operate a lot of stuff more efficiently than a set of private persons or corporations, or that it can regulate the private persons/corporations to do things more sensibly. Like the FAA regulates air safety, and the FCC regulates air frequencies. Both of these would be a likely chaos if left totally to private enterprise. But the argument does not stop there. Even health can be regulated and/or provided a lot more efficiently by private enterprise. Take France, the home of "dirigism", vs the US. France pays less than half of what the US pays per person in health expenditures, and lands as the top nation in the world regarding the quality of that health privisioning, whereas the US lands as 33rd or something like that. Yes, this payment is coerced from the people in the form of taxes, but it is an expense you really cannot avoid and still live a good life; so it is generally deemed as worthwhile. And we haven't had a big epidemic since 1920; where the whole society had to stand up as one. I fear for the US when (not if) this happens next. We have also identified roads and partly rail as natural for state involvement. There are a lot of other such areas, but e.g. national grids for electricty and gas can be kept private and regulated strongly, and kept operationally integrated threreby. But we must watch out; the tax tends to stifle everything when it approaches 50%. I pay 32%, plus a 25% VAT; which gives 49% total. The government spending as a part of GDP is 46%. The US is around 40, varying by nearly 10% by state or local location. -- mrr
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| From | "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-01 04:51 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <djjeo7FlukkU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160331 |
"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message news:u3sdqc-sc5.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... > In article <nb1eaf$d1a$1@dont-email.me>, > Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >>On 2/28/2016 11:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote: >>> On 2016-02-29, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >>>> C'mon Roger, you're just thinking about the military. >>> >>> Who commands the military? How many people were traumatized, maimed, >>> butchered, and/or killed in Vietnam? Iraq? Who was brought to justice >>> for initiating those criminal acts? (None, of course. And that is only >>> two examples.) The State leaves a trail of bloody, beaten corpses in >>> its wake as matter of course. (Would you tolerate this from any >>> privately-owned company, no matter what services it provided?) >>> >>> Government at all levels has indulged in death, destruction, and >>> plunder. >>> Hell, people have been brutalized and even killed over routine traffic >>> stops because they didn't submit fast enough to a cop's author-itay. >>> >>> As far as government is concerned THEY OWN YOU. Your life and your >>> property >>> are theirs to dispose of as they see fit. If you don't like it and offer >>> resistance they will cage you or kill you. Bottom line. >>> >>That is all true. >> >>But without government, you have no rights, no property, no >>corporations, no constitutions, no ownership, other than what you can >>secure and hold by your own hand. And it likely won't be much, or for >>long. >> >>We're a social species. And once there are more than a handful of us, >>that seems to imply government, of one form or another, whether based >>on nation-states or something else.. > > The state is the legal monopoly on physical force. That is the > common definition. This implies that it is ruled by law, and that > it can outgun anyone else on it's territory. > > This means that it needs courts, police and a military force. It may > also have civil servants, but that is technically optional. > > That is it. > > However, we have come to the conclusion that the state can operate > a lot of stuff more efficiently than a set of private persons or > corporations, or that it can regulate the private persons/corporations > to do things more sensibly. Like the FAA regulates air safety, and > the FCC regulates air frequencies. Both of these would be a likely > chaos if left totally to private enterprise. > > But the argument does not stop there. Even health can be regulated > and/or provided a lot more efficiently by private enterprise. Take > France, the home of "dirigism", vs the US. France pays less than half > of what the US pays per person in health expenditures, and lands > as the top nation in the world regarding the quality of that health > privisioning, whereas the US lands as 33rd or something like that. > > Yes, this payment is coerced from the people in the form of > taxes, but it is an expense you really cannot avoid and still live > a good life; so it is generally deemed as worthwhile. > > And we haven't had a big epidemic since 1920; where the whole > society had to stand up as one. I fear for the US when (not if) > this happens next. I don’t. I believe the US would handle that well and I don’t believe it is a when (not if) either now that we understand how to identify and handle those so well now. If for example ebola had happened in the US it would have been handled much more effectively than it was in Africa. > We have also identified roads and partly rail as natural for > state involvement. There are a lot of other such areas, but e.g. > national grids for electricty and gas can be kept private and > regulated strongly, and kept operationally integrated threreby. > > But we must watch out; the tax tends to stifle everything when > it approaches 50%. I pay 32%, plus a 25% VAT; which gives 49% > total. The government spending as a part of GDP is 46%. The > US is around 40, varying by nearly 10% by state or local location. But has one of the lowest tax as a percentage of GDP in the entire world of countries providing a high level of government services. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_as_percentage_of_GDP
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 11:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <463221159.478463574.817156.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #160344 |
Sangmo <ju410@gmail.com> wrote: > > > "Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message > news:u3sdqc-sc5.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... >> In article <nb1eaf$d1a$1@dont-email.me>, >> Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >>> On 2/28/2016 11:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote: >>>> On 2016-02-29, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >>>>> C'mon Roger, you're just thinking about the military. >>>> >>>> Who commands the military? How many people were traumatized, maimed, >>>> butchered, and/or killed in Vietnam? Iraq? Who was brought to justice >>>> for initiating those criminal acts? (None, of course. And that is only >>>> two examples.) The State leaves a trail of bloody, beaten corpses in >>>> its wake as matter of course. (Would you tolerate this from any >>>> privately-owned company, no matter what services it provided?) >>>> >>>> Government at all levels has indulged in death, destruction, and >>>> plunder. >>>> Hell, people have been brutalized and even killed over routine traffic >>>> stops because they didn't submit fast enough to a cop's author-itay. >>>> >>>> As far as government is concerned THEY OWN YOU. Your life and your >>>> property >>>> are theirs to dispose of as they see fit. If you don't like it and offer >>>> resistance they will cage you or kill you. Bottom line. >>>> >>> That is all true. >>> >>> But without government, you have no rights, no property, no >>> corporations, no constitutions, no ownership, other than what you can >>> secure and hold by your own hand. And it likely won't be much, or for >>> long. >>> >>> We're a social species. And once there are more than a handful of us, >>> that seems to imply government, of one form or another, whether based >>> on nation-states or something else.. >> >> The state is the legal monopoly on physical force. That is the >> common definition. This implies that it is ruled by law, and that >> it can outgun anyone else on it's territory. >> >> This means that it needs courts, police and a military force. It may >> also have civil servants, but that is technically optional. >> >> That is it. >> >> However, we have come to the conclusion that the state can operate >> a lot of stuff more efficiently than a set of private persons or >> corporations, or that it can regulate the private persons/corporations >> to do things more sensibly. Like the FAA regulates air safety, and >> the FCC regulates air frequencies. Both of these would be a likely >> chaos if left totally to private enterprise. >> >> But the argument does not stop there. Even health can be regulated >> and/or provided a lot more efficiently by private enterprise. Take >> France, the home of "dirigism", vs the US. France pays less than half >> of what the US pays per person in health expenditures, and lands >> as the top nation in the world regarding the quality of that health >> privisioning, whereas the US lands as 33rd or something like that. >> >> Yes, this payment is coerced from the people in the form of >> taxes, but it is an expense you really cannot avoid and still live >> a good life; so it is generally deemed as worthwhile. >> >> And we haven't had a big epidemic since 1920; where the whole >> society had to stand up as one. I fear for the US when (not if) >> this happens next. > > I don’t. I believe the US would handle that well and I don’t > believe it is a when (not if) either now that we understand > how to identify and handle those so well now. If for example > ebola had happened in the US it would have been handled > much more effectively than it was in Africa. Yes Rod, didn't we do a wonderful job with that? If it hadn't been so serious it would have made a good three stooges movie. Christie did manage to get that one nurse quarentined, but she and others fought like heck that this was "violating her rights." If there had been hundreds instead of a couple it would have looked like the zombie apocalypse. > >> We have also identified roads and partly rail as natural for >> state involvement. There are a lot of other such areas, but e.g. >> national grids for electricty and gas can be kept private and >> regulated strongly, and kept operationally integrated threreby. >> >> But we must watch out; the tax tends to stifle everything when >> it approaches 50%. I pay 32%, plus a 25% VAT; which gives 49% >> total. The government spending as a part of GDP is 46%. The >> US is around 40, varying by nearly 10% by state or local location. > > But has one of the lowest tax as a percentage of GDP in the entire > world of countries providing a high level of government services. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_as_percentage_of_GDP > > -- Pete
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| From | "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-01 08:58 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <djjt7tFpp9mU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160348 |
"Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:463221159.478463574.817156.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org... > Sangmo <ju410@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> "Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message >> news:u3sdqc-sc5.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... >>> In article <nb1eaf$d1a$1@dont-email.me>, >>> Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >>>> On 2/28/2016 11:35 PM, Roger Blake wrote: >>>>> On 2016-02-29, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote: >>>>>> C'mon Roger, you're just thinking about the military. >>>>> >>>>> Who commands the military? How many people were traumatized, maimed, >>>>> butchered, and/or killed in Vietnam? Iraq? Who was brought to justice >>>>> for initiating those criminal acts? (None, of course. And that is only >>>>> two examples.) The State leaves a trail of bloody, beaten corpses in >>>>> its wake as matter of course. (Would you tolerate this from any >>>>> privately-owned company, no matter what services it provided?) >>>>> >>>>> Government at all levels has indulged in death, destruction, and >>>>> plunder. >>>>> Hell, people have been brutalized and even killed over routine traffic >>>>> stops because they didn't submit fast enough to a cop's author-itay. >>>>> >>>>> As far as government is concerned THEY OWN YOU. Your life and your >>>>> property >>>>> are theirs to dispose of as they see fit. If you don't like it and >>>>> offer >>>>> resistance they will cage you or kill you. Bottom line. >>>>> >>>> That is all true. >>>> >>>> But without government, you have no rights, no property, no >>>> corporations, no constitutions, no ownership, other than what you can >>>> secure and hold by your own hand. And it likely won't be much, or for >>>> long. >>>> >>>> We're a social species. And once there are more than a handful of us, >>>> that seems to imply government, of one form or another, whether based >>>> on nation-states or something else.. >>> >>> The state is the legal monopoly on physical force. That is the >>> common definition. This implies that it is ruled by law, and that >>> it can outgun anyone else on it's territory. >>> >>> This means that it needs courts, police and a military force. It may >>> also have civil servants, but that is technically optional. >>> >>> That is it. >>> >>> However, we have come to the conclusion that the state can operate >>> a lot of stuff more efficiently than a set of private persons or >>> corporations, or that it can regulate the private persons/corporations >>> to do things more sensibly. Like the FAA regulates air safety, and >>> the FCC regulates air frequencies. Both of these would be a likely >>> chaos if left totally to private enterprise. >>> >>> But the argument does not stop there. Even health can be regulated >>> and/or provided a lot more efficiently by private enterprise. Take >>> France, the home of "dirigism", vs the US. France pays less than half >>> of what the US pays per person in health expenditures, and lands >>> as the top nation in the world regarding the quality of that health >>> privisioning, whereas the US lands as 33rd or something like that. >>> >>> Yes, this payment is coerced from the people in the form of >>> taxes, but it is an expense you really cannot avoid and still live >>> a good life; so it is generally deemed as worthwhile. >>> >>> And we haven't had a big epidemic since 1920; where the whole >>> society had to stand up as one. I fear for the US when (not if) >>> this happens next. >> >> I don’t. I believe the US would handle that well and I don’t >> believe it is a when (not if) either now that we understand >> how to identify and handle those so well now. If for example >> ebola had happened in the US it would have been handled >> much more effectively than it was in Africa. > > Yes Rod, didn't we do a wonderful job with that? If it hadn't been so > serious it would have made a good three stooges movie. Christie did > manage > to get that one nurse quarentined, but she and others fought like heck > that > this was "violating her rights." If there had been hundreds instead of a > couple it would have looked like the zombie apocalypse. Nope, if it had been hundreds instead of a couple, the fools that went on about violating their rights would have been ignored completely and quarantined. >>> We have also identified roads and partly rail as natural for >>> state involvement. There are a lot of other such areas, but e.g. >>> national grids for electricty and gas can be kept private and >>> regulated strongly, and kept operationally integrated threreby. >>> >>> But we must watch out; the tax tends to stifle everything when >>> it approaches 50%. I pay 32%, plus a 25% VAT; which gives 49% >>> total. The government spending as a part of GDP is 46%. The >>> US is around 40, varying by nearly 10% by state or local location. >> >> But has one of the lowest tax as a percentage of GDP in the entire >> world of countries providing a high level of government services. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_as_percentage_of_GDP
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| From | Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-01 10:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <LZSdnbxURZIK8UjLnZ2dnUU78T3NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #160348 |
On 29/02/2016 18:36, Peter Flass wrote:
> Sangmo <ju410@gmail.com> wrote:
{snip}
>> I don’t. I believe the US would handle that well and I don’t
>> believe it is a when (not if) either now that we understand
>> how to identify and handle those so well now. If for example
>> ebola had happened in the US it would have been handled
>> much more effectively than it was in Africa.
>
> Yes Rod, didn't we do a wonderful job with that? If it hadn't been so
> serious it would have made a good three stooges movie. Christie did manage
> to get that one nurse quarentined, but she and others fought like heck that
> this was "violating her rights." If there had been hundreds instead of a
> couple it would have looked like the zombie apocalypse.
>
The Second Amendment means that in the USA people with Ebola who left
hospital would soon start being killed by gun shoots.
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