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| Started by | "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> |
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| First post | 2016-02-16 10:37 -0600 |
| Last post | 2016-02-19 12:55 -0600 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 317 — 37 participants |
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Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-16 10:37 -0600
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 09:54 -0800
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-16 19:41 +0100
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-16 21:11 +0100
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-17 02:16 +0100
Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 22:05 +0000
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 23:35 +0100
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:41 -0700
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 18:52 -0700
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:13 +1100
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-17 04:53 +0100
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 04:21 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 17:24 +1100
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 15:07 +0100
Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:02 +0000
Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-17 08:03 +0000
Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:02 +0000
Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-17 08:01 +0000
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 18:07 +0000
Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-17 14:01 -0500
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:41 -0700
Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 18:09 -0800
Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-17 20:45 -0700
Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-17 22:34 -0600
Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 11:16 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:44 +1100
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 15:00 +1100
Re: Ransomware Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-18 02:12 +0000
Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-17 22:47 -0500
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 15:10 +1100
Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 21:29 -0800
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:56 +1100
Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 23:15 -0800
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 18:35 +1100
Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-18 17:58 -0800
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 13:44 +1100
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-17 20:44 -0800
Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-18 08:03 -0600
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:14 -0600
Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-18 19:10 -0600
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-18 20:13 -0800
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:26 +1100
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 09:34 -0600
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 16:26 +0000
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 14:58 -0600
Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-19 18:21 -0500
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 18:43 -0700
Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-19 23:32 -0500
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:34 -0800
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 19:59 +1100
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 07:25 -0500
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:30 -0600
Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-20 10:58 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 04:25 +1100
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-20 19:56 +0000
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 13:26 +1100
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 04:16 +1100
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 13:22 +1100
Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-19 17:36 -0500
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:01 +1100
Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-20 16:26 -0800
Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-21 13:52 -0800
Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-21 18:51 -0500
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:18 -0800
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 15:03 +1100
Re: Ransomware Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-20 16:12 +0000
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 15:59 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 09:59 +1100
Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-19 18:43 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 14:36 +1100
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 17:01 -0600
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 18:54 -0600
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 19:48 -0600
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-20 16:20 -0600
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:17 -0600
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:53 -0800
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 18:43 -0700
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 21:33 -0500
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:23 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 14:48 +1100
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:56 -0800
Re: Ransomware Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-19 23:18 -0500
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:35 -0600
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:12 -0600
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-20 15:33 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 12:11 +1100
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 18:43 -0700
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 20:00 -0800
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 01:51 -0700
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:34 -0600
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:19 -0600
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:40 -0800
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:46 +1100
Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-18 23:55 -0600
Re: Ransomware mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-19 10:48 +0000
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:56 -0500
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 09:50 -0600
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 16:29 +0000
Re: Ransomware Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-19 16:54 +0000
Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 17:55 +0000
Re: Ransomware Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-20 08:30 +0000
Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-20 15:29 +0000
Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-20 10:06 -0600
Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 11:03 -0600
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 16:14 -0600
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 16:27 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 09:49 +1100
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:29 +1100
Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 18:53 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 09:42 +1100
Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 -0500
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 14:58 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:24 +1100
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:53 +1100
Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 18:15 +0000
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 17:55 -0800
Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-18 11:19 -0500
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:19 -0600
Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-18 11:46 -0500
Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-18 18:01 +0000
Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-18 14:36 -0500
Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 11:23 +0000
Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-19 09:28 -0500
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:19 +1100
Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-18 11:06 -0600
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 10:24 -0700
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-18 12:27 -0800
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:22 +1100
Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-19 00:07 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 18:34 +1100
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:41 -0500
Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-19 07:43 -0600
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 16:13 +0000
Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-19 08:01 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:50 +1100
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:34 +0000
Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-18 13:34 -0600
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:34 -0500
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:33 +1100
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 21:04 -0500
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 13:46 +1100
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:34 -0500
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:47 +1100
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-18 11:03 -0500
Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-18 19:21 +0000
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-18 20:56 +0000
Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-18 21:19 +0000
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:48 +0000
Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-19 14:12 +0000
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 09:54 -0600
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:29 +1100
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:42 -0600
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-21 15:48 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:43 +1100
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 12:55 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:53 +1100
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-23 13:13 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 04:49 +1100
Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-21 19:56 +0000
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 16:19 +0000
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 18:08 -0800
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 18:18 -0800
Re: Ransomware mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-19 18:10 +0000
Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-19 21:43 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 09:52 +1100
Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-19 16:53 -0800
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 18:37 -0600
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:32 +1100
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:13 -0600
Re: Ransomware Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-16 17:57 +0000
Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-16 14:19 -0600
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 03:42 +0000
Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-17 08:05 +0000
Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-17 12:03 +0000
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-02-17 15:21 +0100
Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-17 07:38 -0700
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 18:07 +0000
Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:10 -0600
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:34 +0000
Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:06 -0600
Re: Ransomware Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-16 12:49 -0800
Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-16 16:55 -0600
Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-16 17:31 -0600
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 16:11 -0800
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:26 +1100
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:19 -0600
Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-17 12:05 -0600
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 17:58 -0600
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:41 -0700
Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 18:39 -0800
Re: Ransomware Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-16 16:44 -0400
Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-16 15:30 -0600
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 00:20 +0100
Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:03 +0000
Re: Ransomware Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-17 18:48 -0500
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@Last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 16:46 +0100
Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-18 11:06 -0800
Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 14:43 -0500
Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 14:06 -0600
Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 15:48 -0500
Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 15:36 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:30 +1100
Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 19:38 -0500
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:43 +0000
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-19 00:51 +0100
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:45 +0000
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-19 15:00 +0100
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 07:01 -0700
Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-19 10:16 -0500
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 11:15 -0700
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 11:19 -0700
Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 18:55 +0000
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 12:54 -0700
Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-20 17:46 -0800
Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:08 -0600
Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-23 16:01 -0600
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 21:24 -0500
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:58 +1100
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:40 +0000
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:06 +1100
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:11 +1100
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:44 +0100
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:13 +1100
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-19 17:08 +0100
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:41 +1100
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 09:35 +0100
Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-21 10:18 +0000
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 16:48 +0100
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-21 18:40 -0600
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 01:53 +0100
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 18:36 -0700
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 00:12 -0600
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 09:37 +0100
Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 09:17 -0500
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 15:29 +0100
Re: Ransomware using libc Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 09:42 -0500
Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 15:52 +0100
Re: Ransomware using libc Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 10:23 -0500
Re: Ransomware using libc scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-22 17:24 +0000
Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 20:29 +0100
Re: Ransomware using libc Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-22 19:38 +0000
Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 21:31 +0100
Re: Ransomware using libc Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:17 +0000
Re: Ransomware using libc Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 14:41 -0600
Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 22:07 +0100
Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-22 09:16 -0700
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 17:21 +0100
Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-22 09:34 -0700
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 11:11 -0600
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 18:25 +0100
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:15 -0600
Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 22:28 +0100
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 21:46 -0600
Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:05 +1100
Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:31 +1100
Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-18 13:56 -0600
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:16 +1100
Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-19 17:09 -0600
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:55 +1100
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-20 19:56 +0000
Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-22 14:07 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 07:15 +1100
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 18:30 -0500
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-23 01:49 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:09 +1100
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:03 +1100
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 13:12 -0600
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:29 -0500
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 13:35 -0600
Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-20 09:55 +0000
Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 07:30 -0700
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 11:11 -0500
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 04:05 +1100
Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 11:55 +0000
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 14:04 +0100
Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 13:57 +0000
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-21 23:28 +0000
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:34 +1100
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:32 +1100
Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-21 12:14 -0600
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:47 +1100
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 14:03 +0000
Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-17 15:20 -0600
Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 21:31 +0000
Re: Ransomware Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-18 08:23 +0000
Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-18 11:42 -0600
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:23 -0500
Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-18 11:43 -0600
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:48 -0500
Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 17:04 -0800
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:42 +1100
Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 04:17 +0000
Re: Ransomware Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-17 04:08 -0400
Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:04 +0000
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:38 -0500
Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 13:38 +0100
Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:57 -0500
Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:24 +1100
Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:03 +0000
Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 16:43 -0800
Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 12:55 -0600
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| From | "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-23 13:03 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dj1susF6rgiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160142 |
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.31356422eefe04f1989fa3@news.eternal-september.org... > In article <VoqdnSSOu64J91bLnZ2dnUU7-RmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > jmelson@wustl.edu says... >> >> Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >> > >> > There's one thing I'd like to see in a manual which used to be common >> > but isn't there anymore: a section titled "Theory of Operation". >> > But then, I'm one of those freaks who has to know how things work. >> > >> OHHHH, MY! The theory of operation for a modern PC, plus OS, would be >> QUITE >> a manual! In the tone of earlier versions of that, they'd have to get >> QUITE >> detailed, there is a LOT of technology, protocols, interfaces, etc. in a >> modern desktop PC. Phones might have a few less things in them, but >> still a >> lot. I'd guess such a manual would take up a whole shelf. > > Consider that the architecture of a typical PC today is more complex > than a maxed-out 370 and the notion of IBM-style documentation for it > becomes rather daunting. And completely useless for anyone owning the typical PC today.
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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 13:12 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <na7p9r$jj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #159616 |
On 17-Feb-16 17:03, Questor wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 00:20:49 +0100, Morten Reistad > <first@last.name.invalid> wrote: >> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still >> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It >> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning. >> >> There are lots of "spelling trapdoors" out there, like >> micros0ft.com, etc. > > Not letting your relatives run as admin makes cleanup a *lot* > easier. Microsoft convincing people it was okay to run as admin (and worse, autologin as admin on home editions) for normal usage is one of the worst security disasters of all time. One of the first things I learned as a *ix admin was to _never_ run as root; I always use sudo, and that way I know exactly when I'm doing something dangerous--and there's a log, which is important when you have multiple admins around so you know who to blame :) Windows has gotten a little better in recent years, with some actions requiring explicit acknowledgement of using admin powers, but it uses the same account password, so you can't let admins and non-admins (e.g. kids) share the same account--and home editions of Windows don't have the easy switching between accounts that the business editions do. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 06:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.312f7509bde44c55989f87@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #159529 |
In article <hfncpc-n4s.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>, first@last.name.invalid says... > > In article <xfKdnbRd9ZJNCV7LnZ2dnUU7-XmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: > >Mike Spencer wrote: > > > > > >> > >> I submit that software/computers is/are approaching a complexity > >> catastrophe. > >Yes, you could be right. > > > >On the other hand, I run pretty exclusively on Linux desktops. I also have > >a web/mail/ftp server. That used to be targeted heavily by hackers, until I > >put denyhosts on it. Two weeks, to the HOUR, after I set that up, the > >attacks went from 1000+ a day to 3 a day. Obviously, the botnets keep track > >of the horizon on how long a particular attacking IP is locked out, and if > >it is over 2 weeks, they decide your site is impenetrable. > > I do the same. I also run a number of public SIP servers with some tens > of thousands of clients. I run a blacklist of IP networks where the attacks > come from. I can prune it down to 38 networks and get rid of ~98.5% of the > attacks. > > I use honeypot accounts. Any IP that register to one of these and place > a call three times will be blocked for a month; and then I review the new blocked > ones. The list of malperforming IPs is _very_ stable. > > >But, on the user desktops, I run with no special protection. No antivirus > >software at all, no unusual settings, just general awareness to the fact > >that there could be bad stuff out there. I've been doing this for 18 years > >now, with no trouble at all. Some of my kids used to watch all sorts of > >pirated movies from Chinese web sites, and they did get some add-ons to the > >browser that caused a little annoyance. I simply removed those add-ons. > > > >Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed Windows. > >Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they were behind a > >firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked directly from the outside. > >Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was easily able to corrupt those systems. > > My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still her XP > machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It got to be a > quite tall order to keep cleaning. What are these people _doing_? > There are lots of "spelling trapdoors" out there, like micros0ft.com, etc. > > -- mrr
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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 13:35 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <na7qkm$68l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #159655 |
On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote: > first@last.name.invalid says... >> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: >>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed >>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they >>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked >>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was >>> easily able to corrupt those systems. >> >> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still >> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It >> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning. > > What are these people _doing_? Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the malware that has accumulated since my last visit. Why? Because it has only one (admin) account, and toddlers don't understand security dialogs; they just click "OK" so they can play whatever game caught their eye. Worse, I need a half-dozen different anti-malware programs because none of them catch even half of it, and I have to run them in sequence two or three times because each misses some things unless other things are removed by one of the others. If even _one_ of them worked halfway decently, I could just tell my sister to run it weekly. There are many problems with the iThing/Android security model, but denying admin rights to users does prevent these sorts of problems. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-20 09:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <diqrfpFc6nfU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #159843 |
On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote:
>> first@last.name.invalid says...
>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote:
>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed
>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they
>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked
>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was
>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems.
>>>
>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still
>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It
>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning.
>>
>> What are these people _doing_?
>
> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the malware
> that has accumulated since my last visit.
Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is a nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her. She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's gone. Sigh.
Fucking Windows.
--
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my
attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-20 07:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <50592711.477671178.858597.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #159915 |
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote: >>> first@last.name.invalid says... >>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: >>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed >>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they >>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked >>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was >>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems. >>>> >>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still >>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It >>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning. >>> >>> What are these people _doing_? >> >> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the malware >> that has accumulated since my last visit. > > Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to > click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets > malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is a > nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the > more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her. > She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't > even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's gone. Sigh. This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to take on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens' community. > > Fucking Windows. > Amen. -- Pete
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-20 11:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.31325a3b93c76a73989f9e@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #159922 |
In article <50592711.477671178.858597.peter_flass- yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>, peter_flass@yahoo.com says... > > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > > On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: > >> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote: > >>> first@last.name.invalid says... > >>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: > >>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed > >>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they > >>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked > >>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was > >>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems. > >>>> > >>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still > >>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It > >>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning. > >>> > >>> What are these people _doing_? > >> > >> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the malware > >> that has accumulated since my last visit. > > > > Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to > > click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets > > malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is a > > nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the > > more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her. > > She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't > > even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's gone. Sigh. > > This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to take > on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens' > community. I guarantee that it will be an education for anyone who chooses to take it on.
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| From | "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-21 04:05 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dirkmkFirjpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #159939 |
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message news:MPG.31325a3b93c76a73989f9e@news.eternal-september.org... > In article <50592711.477671178.858597.peter_flass- > yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>, peter_flass@yahoo.com says... >> >> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >> > On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >> >> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote: >> >>> first@last.name.invalid says... >> >>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: >> >>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed >> >>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they >> >>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked >> >>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was >> >>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems. >> >>>> >> >>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still >> >>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It >> >>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning. >> >>> >> >>> What are these people _doing_? >> >> >> >> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the >> >> malware >> >> that has accumulated since my last visit. >> > >> > Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to >> > click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets >> > malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is >> > a >> > nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the >> > more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her. >> > She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't >> > even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's >> > gone. Sigh. >> >> This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to >> take >> on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens' >> community. > > I guarantee that it will be an education for anyone who chooses to take it > on. It wasn't for me, because I have always done that for all communities and have often been the only one doing that.
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-21 11:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ditmtgF40itU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #159922 |
On 2016-02-20, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>>> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> first@last.name.invalid says...
>>>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed
>>>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they
>>>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked
>>>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was
>>>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems.
>>>>>
>>>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still
>>>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It
>>>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning.
>>>>
>>>> What are these people _doing_?
>>>
>>> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the malware
>>> that has accumulated since my last visit.
>>
>> Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to
>> click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets
>> malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is a
>> nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the
>> more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her.
>> She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't
>> even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's gone. Sigh.
>
> This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to take
> on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens'
> community.
Good luck with that. They'd drive you crazy.
--
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my
attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-21 14:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <77popc-94c.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #160031 |
In article <ditmtgF40itU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge <usenet@huge.org.uk> wrote: >On 2016-02-20, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >>>> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>> first@last.name.invalid says... >>>>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed >>>>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they >>>>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked >>>>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was >>>>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems. >>>>>> >>>>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still >>>>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It >>>>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning. >>>>> >>>>> What are these people _doing_? >>>> >>>> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the malware >>>> that has accumulated since my last visit. >>> >>> Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to >>> click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets >>> malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is a >>> nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the >>> more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her. >>> She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't >>> even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's gone. Sigh. >> >> This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to take >> on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens' >> community. > >Good luck with that. They'd drive you crazy. I have volunteered for family and friends to support their endeavour towards Linux, BSDs, or even macOS. No takers. When they ask about windows I just state that the last time I ran windows on the raw iron was in 2007; and I never used anything newer than XP as a pure user on other people's computers. -- mrr
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-21 13:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ditu2gF5b3rU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160032 |
On 2016-02-21, Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ditmtgF40itU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Huge <usenet@huge.org.uk> wrote:
>>On 2016-02-20, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>> first@last.name.invalid says...
>>>>>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed
>>>>>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they
>>>>>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked
>>>>>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was
>>>>>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still
>>>>>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It
>>>>>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are these people _doing_?
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the malware
>>>>> that has accumulated since my last visit.
>>>>
>>>> Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to
>>>> click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets
>>>> malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is a
>>>> nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the
>>>> more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her.
>>>> She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't
>>>> even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's gone. Sigh.
>>>
>>> This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to take
>>> on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens'
>>> community.
>>
>>Good luck with that. They'd drive you crazy.
>
> I have volunteered for family and friends to support their endeavour
> towards Linux, BSDs, or even macOS. No takers. When they ask about
> windows I just state that the last time I ran windows on the raw
> iron was in 2007; and I never used anything newer than XP as a pure
> user on other people's computers.
More or less where I'm at. I don't run Windows at home, so am not in the best position to support it. And most people don't even know what you're talking about if you mention other O/S's.
--
I don't have an attitude problem. If you have a problem with my
attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-02-21 23:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nadh6l01tt2@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #160035 |
On 2016-02-21, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > On 2016-02-21, Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote: >> >> I have volunteered for family and friends to support their endeavour >> towards Linux, BSDs, or even macOS. No takers. When they ask about >> windows I just state that the last time I ran windows on the raw >> iron was in 2007; and I never used anything newer than XP as a pure >> user on other people's computers. > > More or less where I'm at. I don't run Windows at home, so am not > in the best position to support it. And most people don't even know > what you're talking about if you mention other O/S's. I have to use Windows for work, but all my boxes run Linux natively. I run XP under VirtualBox. I'm not worried about security; my home box sits behind a firewall and I plug my laptop into it when at home. VirtualBox can't bridge to a wifi adapter, so when my laptop is unplugged the virtual XP machine is completely isolated from the Internet. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
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| From | "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-02-22 03:34 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <diu78rF8bg2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160032 |
"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message news:77popc-94c.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... > In article <ditmtgF40itU1@mid.individual.net>, > Huge <usenet@huge.org.uk> wrote: >>On 2016-02-20, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >>>>> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>>> first@last.name.invalid says... >>>>>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: >>>>>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed >>>>>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they >>>>>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked >>>>>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was >>>>>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still >>>>>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It >>>>>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning. >>>>>> >>>>>> What are these people _doing_? >>>>> >>>>> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the >>>>> malware >>>>> that has accumulated since my last visit. >>>> >>>> Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to >>>> click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets >>>> malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is >>>> a >>>> nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the >>>> more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her. >>>> She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't >>>> even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's >>>> gone. Sigh. >>> >>> This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to >>> take >>> on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens' >>> community. >> >>Good luck with that. They'd drive you crazy. > > I have volunteered for family and friends to support their endeavour > towards Linux, BSDs, or even macOS. No takers. When they ask about > windows I just state that the last time I ran windows on the raw > iron was in 2007; and I never used anything newer than XP as a pure > user on other people's computers. I do what needs to be done whatever they choose to run. I don’t even attempt to encourage them to run something other than Win. They do fine. Even Barb uses it.
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| From | "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-22 03:32 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <diu74qF8ai2U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160031 |
"Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message news:ditmtgF40itU1@mid.individual.net... > On 2016-02-20, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: >>> On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >>>> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>> first@last.name.invalid says... >>>>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed >>>>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they >>>>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked >>>>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was >>>>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems. >>>>>> >>>>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still >>>>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It >>>>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning. >>>>> >>>>> What are these people _doing_? >>>> >>>> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the malware >>>> that has accumulated since my last visit. >>> >>> Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to >>> click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets >>> malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is >>> a >>> nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the >>> more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her. >>> She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't >>> even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's >>> gone. Sigh. >> >> This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to >> take >> on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens' >> community. > > Good luck with that. They'd drive you crazy. They don’t drive me crazy, even when they so things as stupidly as Barb does and she does her computing and net access much more stupidly than anyone else in here does.
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| From | Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-02-21 12:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nacul4$ckd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #160031 |
On 2/21/2016 5:55 AM, Huge wrote:
> On 2016-02-20, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>>>> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> first@last.name.invalid says...
>>>>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed
>>>>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they
>>>>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked
>>>>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was
>>>>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still
>>>>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It
>>>>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are these people _doing_?
>>>>
>>>> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the malware
>>>> that has accumulated since my last visit.
>>>
>>> Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to
>>> click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets
>>> malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is a
>>> nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the
>>> more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her.
>>> She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't
>>> even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's gone. Sigh.
>>
>> This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to take
>> on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens'
>> community.
>
> Good luck with that. They'd drive you crazy.
>
I provide support for a number of seniors (a lot of us seem to qualify
as one also). Not for an entire building, though some of them tell
others to call me. It's not really much different from supporting any
other segment of the general public. They range from the utterly naive
and helpless ("no, the computer is that box on the floor") to pretty
sophisticated ("if you're going to connect several computers
simultaneously via VPN, having them independently connect to the same
VPN server and port isn't a good idea"). Some of them are malware
magnets, and some practice pretty decent security (as much as is
likely while running Win, anyhow). None runs at as high a level of
paranoia as I do, but younger people don't either.
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| From | "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-22 07:47 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dium31Fc9efU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160057 |
"Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message
news:nacul4$ckd$1@dont-email.me...
> On 2/21/2016 5:55 AM, Huge wrote:
>> On 2016-02-20, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-02-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 18-Feb-16 05:29, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>> first@last.name.invalid says...
>>>>>>> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Now, some of my kids bought personal laptops, with pre-installed
>>>>>>>> Windows. Those never lasted more than 6 months, even though they
>>>>>>>> were behind a firewall with NAT, so they could NOT be attacked
>>>>>>>> directly from the outside. Stuff they unwittingly downloaded was
>>>>>>>> easily able to corrupt those systems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still
>>>>>>> her XP machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It
>>>>>>> got to be a quite tall order to keep cleaning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are these people _doing_?
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever I visit my sister, I spend a few hours cleaning up the
>>>>> malware
>>>>> that has accumulated since my last visit.
>>>>
>>>> Ditto, only with my Mother. And I have her very well trained not to
>>>> click on random stuff, especially in emails. And yet she still gets
>>>> malware infections. She's 2000 miles away, and 83, so supporting her is
>>>> a
>>>> nightmare. She lives in an old people's community, and she's among the
>>>> more switched-on residents, so she can't ask anyone else to help her.
>>>> She presently has some kind of boot-up advertising malware, so I can't
>>>> even see it remotely, because by the time I log on to her machine, it's
>>>> gone. Sigh.
>>>
>>> This presents an interesting opportunity for people who might like to
>>> take
>>> on some volunteer work - tech support for a local senior citizens'
>>> community.
>>
>> Good luck with that. They'd drive you crazy.
>>
> I provide support for a number of seniors (a lot of us seem to qualify as
> one also). Not for an entire building, though some of them tell others to
> call me.
All of mine do.
> It's not really much different from supporting any other segment of the
> general public.
True, tho I don’t actually have any with advanced dementia or altzhiemers.
They range from the utterly naive
> and helpless ("no, the computer is that box on the floor")
Quite a few of the kids don’t even understand that the
monitor isnt the computer, presumably because they
don’t have any real exposure to desktop systems anymore.
to pretty
> sophisticated ("if you're going to connect several computers
> simultaneously via VPN, having them independently connect to the same VPN
> server and port isn't a good idea"). Some of them are malware magnets, and
> some practice pretty decent security (as much as is likely while running
> Win, anyhow). None runs at as high a level of paranoia as I do, but
> younger people don't either.
I'm not into paranoia myself. I have just organised myself
so that the worst result would be a minor nuisance to fix.
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 14:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <H4%wy.168$LT.122@fx12.iad> |
| In reply to | #159520 |
Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> writes: >Mike Spencer wrote: > > >> >> I submit that software/computers is/are approaching a complexity >> catastrophe. >Yes, you could be right. > >On the other hand, I run pretty exclusively on Linux desktops. I also have >a web/mail/ftp server. That used to be targeted heavily by hackers, until I >put denyhosts on it. Two weeks, to the HOUR, after I set that up, the >attacks went from 1000+ a day to 3 a day. Obviously, the botnets keep track >of the horizon on how long a particular attacking IP is locked out, and if >it is over 2 weeks, they decide your site is impenetrable. > You run your sshd on port 22? Consider selecting a different port number to reduce the attack surface.
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| From | Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 15:20 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <DJSdnSACaPBPflnLnZ2dnUU7-c-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #159582 |
Scott Lurndal wrote: > Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> writes: >>Mike Spencer wrote: >> >> >>> >>> I submit that software/computers is/are approaching a complexity >>> catastrophe. >>Yes, you could be right. >> >>On the other hand, I run pretty exclusively on Linux desktops. I also >>have >>a web/mail/ftp server. That used to be targeted heavily by hackers, until >>I >>put denyhosts on it. Two weeks, to the HOUR, after I set that up, the >>attacks went from 1000+ a day to 3 a day. Obviously, the botnets keep >>track of the horizon on how long a particular attacking IP is locked out, >>and if it is over 2 weeks, they decide your site is impenetrable. >> > > You run your sshd on port 22? Consider selecting a different port number > to reduce the attack surface. Not a problem. I have only ONE user account on that machine that can be accessed from outside, the password is 15 characters long and would NOT be easily guessed, and I have most of the botnets blocked off, so I get VERY few ssh login failures a day. I think denyhosts is a LOT more effective at knocking off the botnets than just changing the sshd port. If I move the port, they will find it in short order. Jon
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 21:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vE5xy.61390$SO7.42513@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #159608 |
Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> writes: >Scott Lurndal wrote: > >> Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> writes: >>>Mike Spencer wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I submit that software/computers is/are approaching a complexity >>>> catastrophe. >>>Yes, you could be right. >>> >>>On the other hand, I run pretty exclusively on Linux desktops. I also >>>have >>>a web/mail/ftp server. That used to be targeted heavily by hackers, until >>>I >>>put denyhosts on it. Two weeks, to the HOUR, after I set that up, the >>>attacks went from 1000+ a day to 3 a day. Obviously, the botnets keep >>>track of the horizon on how long a particular attacking IP is locked out, >>>and if it is over 2 weeks, they decide your site is impenetrable. >>> >> >> You run your sshd on port 22? Consider selecting a different port number >> to reduce the attack surface. >Not a problem. I have only ONE user account on that machine that can be >accessed from outside, the password is 15 characters long and would NOT be >easily guessed, and I have most of the botnets blocked off, so I get VERY >few ssh login failures a day. I think denyhosts is a LOT more effective at >knocking off the botnets than just changing the sshd port. If I move the >port, they will find it in short order. > >Jon I've had mine on a non-standard port[*] and have never noted attempts to break in logged in /var/log/secure over the last decade. Knock on wood. [*] Password auth, ssh1 & root login, are of course, all disabled.
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| From | Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-18 08:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnncavrk.9c7.plan.b@ID-309335.user.uni-berlin.de> |
| In reply to | #159608 |
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 15:20:07 -0600, Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: > Scott Lurndal wrote: >> You run your sshd on port 22? Consider selecting a different port number >> to reduce the attack surface. > Not a problem. I have only ONE user account on that machine that can be > accessed from outside, the password is 15 characters long and would NOT be > easily guessed, and I have most of the botnets blocked off, so I get VERY > few ssh login failures a day. I think denyhosts is a LOT more effective at > knocking off the botnets than just changing the sshd port. If I move the > port, they will find it in short order. I've found that many of these attacks are preceded by a port scan to find open ports so they'd soon find it anyway. -- Stan Barr plan.b@bluesomatic.org
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