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DEC and The Americans

Started byRS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com>
First post2016-01-25 17:26 +0300
Last post2016-01-30 20:36 +0000
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  DEC and The Americans RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-01-25 17:26 +0300
    Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-25 15:45 +0000
      Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-25 10:53 -0500
        Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-26 13:56 +0000
          Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 04:48 +1100
          Re: DEC and The Americans terry-groups@glaver.org - 2016-01-26 14:14 -0800
            Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-26 17:21 -0500
            Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-27 15:42 +0000
    Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-25 10:58 -0500
      Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-25 16:17 +0000
      Re: DEC and The Americans Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-25 11:47 -0500
      Re: DEC and The Americans John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2016-01-25 16:47 +0000
        Re: DEC and The Americans Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-25 17:41 +0000
          Re: DEC and The Americans mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2016-01-25 19:25 +0000
          Re: DEC and The Americans Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-01-25 16:15 -0500
        Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-25 13:17 -0500
          Re: DEC and The Americans Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-26 08:20 +0000
            Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-26 11:32 +0000
            Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-26 17:23 -0600
          Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-26 17:20 -0600
            Re: DEC and The Americans scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) - 2016-01-27 19:40 +0000
          Re: DEC and The Americans Yeechang Lee <ylee@columbia.edu> - 2016-01-27 22:40 -0800
        Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-25 15:07 -0800
          Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-25 19:34 -0500
            Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-25 19:38 -0800
              Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-25 23:55 -0500
              Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-26 17:32 -0600
                Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 19:31 -0800
                  Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-27 21:10 +0000
                    Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-28 11:49 -0500
                      Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-28 15:33 -0600
                        Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-28 19:00 -0500
                        Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-28 19:23 -0500
                          Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 00:48 +0000
                          Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-28 21:02 -0500
                            Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 07:32 -0500
                  Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-28 15:32 -0600
                    Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-28 19:03 -0500
                    Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-28 19:23 -0500
                      Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-28 20:58 -0500
                        Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-29 10:40 +0000
                        Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-29 19:11 -0600
                          Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-29 23:21 -0500
                            Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-30 03:45 -0800
                            Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:25 -0600
                            Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-01 17:45 -0600
                              Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-01 21:29 -0500
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-02 00:33 -0600
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-02 03:04 -0500
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-02 15:42 -0600
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-02 18:40 -0800
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-03 12:39 -0500
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-03 12:43 -0500
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 22:35 -0600
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-03 23:59 -0600
                                            Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 06:03 -0700
                                              Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-04 11:24 -0500
                                                Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-04 10:51 -0700
                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 05:12 +1100
                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-04 19:29 +0000
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-04 11:26 -0500
                                            Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-05 02:51 -0600
                                              Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-05 10:45 +0000
                                                Re: DEC and The Americans Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-05 10:47 -0600
                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-05 10:21 -0800
                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Dave Pitts <dpitts@cozx.com> - 2016-02-06 08:06 -0700
                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-06 10:02 -0800
                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-06 19:20 -0600
                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Clark G <clarkm.geimsler@ieeemmm.org> - 2016-02-16 04:41 +0000
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Dave Pitts <dpitts@cozx.com> - 2016-02-17 07:45 -0700
                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-06 19:18 -0600
                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans terry-groups@glaver.org - 2016-02-05 20:35 -0800
                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-05 23:12 -0600
                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans terry-groups@glaver.org - 2016-02-06 01:34 -0800
                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-06 07:39 -0700
                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-08 14:02 +0000
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-08 10:01 -0800
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-08 19:36 +0000
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-08 11:45 -0800
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-08 19:14 +0100
                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-06 22:35 -0600
                                                Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 18:19 -0500
                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-06 22:45 -0600
                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 08:08 -0500
                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-07 07:09 -0700
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-07 19:57 +0000
                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-07 07:09 -0700
                                              Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-05 19:05 -0500
                                                Re: DEC and The Americans Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-05 21:32 -0600
                                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-06 22:49 -0600
                        Re: DEC and The Americans Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 21:18 -0600
                          Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-02 02:59 -0500
                            Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-02 15:38 -0600
                              Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-03 12:43 -0500
                      Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-29 18:58 -0600
                Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:46 +0000
                Re: DEC and The Americans Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-27 06:14 +0000
                Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-27 14:28 +0000
            Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-26 13:56 +0000
            Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-26 17:26 -0600
              Re: DEC and The Americans Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-26 17:57 -0600
          Re: DEC and The Americans RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-01-26 14:35 +0000
            Re: DEC and The Americans Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-26 14:53 +0000
              Re: DEC and The Americans Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-26 09:58 -0800
                Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 11:05 -0800
                  Re: DEC and The Americans Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-26 11:41 -0800
                    Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 12:38 -0800
                      Re: DEC and The Americans Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-26 15:26 -0800
                        Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 19:25 -0800
              Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 18:38 -0500
            Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 07:54 -0800
            Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-26 11:36 -0500
            Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-26 17:39 -0600
        Re: DEC and The Americans Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2016-01-26 21:16 +0200
          Re: DEC and The Americans "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2016-01-28 10:07 -0800
      Re: DEC and The Americans "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-26 05:48 +1100
      Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-26 13:56 +0000
        Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-26 17:43 -0600
          Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-27 15:42 +0000
            Re: DEC and The Americans pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-02-03 00:36 +0000
              Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-02 18:42 -0800
              Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-03 14:25 +0000
                Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-03 12:58 -0800
                  Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-04 15:14 +0000
                    Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-05 05:01 +1100
                      Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-05 14:41 +0000
                        Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 04:42 +1100
                          Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-06 14:35 +0000
                            Re: DEC and The Americans "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-06 11:45 -0600
                              Re: DEC and The Americans Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-06 18:09 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-06 15:49 -0600
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-07 05:33 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-07 15:12 +0000
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-07 11:12 -0800
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-07 11:42 -0600
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-07 20:06 -0600
                              Re: DEC and The Americans "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 06:06 +1100
                              Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-07 15:12 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-07 09:52 -0600
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 11:56 -0500
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 12:33 -0600
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 16:34 -0600
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-08 14:28 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 04:08 +1100
                            Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 06:10 +1100
                    Re: DEC and The Americans Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-04 13:42 -0600
                      Re: DEC and The Americans Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-04 14:23 -0600
                      Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-05 14:41 +0000
                        Re: DEC and The Americans Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-05 14:32 -0600
                          Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-05 13:05 -0800
                            Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-06 10:34 +0000
                          Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-05 13:08 -0800
                        Re: DEC and The Americans Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-05 15:34 -0600
                          Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-06 14:35 +0000
                            Re: DEC and The Americans Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-06 14:45 +0000
                              Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-07 15:12 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 04:05 +1100
                                Re: DEC and The Americans Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-02-07 17:27 +0000
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-02-07 17:28 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-07 12:07 -0800
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-08 21:07 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-07 19:56 +0000
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-08 13:53 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-08 19:11 +0100
                                Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-08 13:49 +0000
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-08 14:28 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-08 16:43 +0000
                            Re: DEC and The Americans Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-06 13:18 -0600
                              Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-06 20:08 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 14:22 -0600
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-06 20:52 +0000
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-07 07:09 -0700
                                Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-06 16:38 -0500
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-06 20:09 -0800
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 18:36 -0500
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-07 06:18 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 08:10 -0500
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-07 19:57 +0000
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-07 19:24 -0800
                              Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-07 15:12 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-07 09:45 -0600
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-08 14:28 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 04:16 +1100
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-08 17:19 -0700
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 12:22 +1100
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-09 11:16 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-09 13:55 -0600
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 11:49 -0500
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-08 14:28 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-08 16:11 -0600
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 17:47 -0500
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-09 14:21 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 04:01 +1100
                            Re: DEC and The Americans Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-06 16:13 -0600
                              Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-07 15:12 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 03:49 +1100
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-07 12:12 -0800
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-08 14:28 +0000
                            Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 18:26 -0500
                              Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-07 15:12 +0000
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 11:09 -0500
                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 03:56 +1100
                                Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-08 13:59 +0000
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-08 14:28 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-08 14:38 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2016-02-08 15:56 +0000
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-09 14:21 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-08 19:17 +0100
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-08 17:19 -0700
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-09 14:21 +0000
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 02:03 +1100
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-09 15:09 +0000
                                            Re: DEC and The Americans Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-09 17:27 +0000
                                              Re: DEC and The Americans tracymnelson@gmail.com - 2016-02-09 10:36 -0800
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-09 15:07 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-02-08 19:08 +0000
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-09 14:21 +0000
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-09 15:10 +0000
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-10 12:46 +0000
                                            Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 02:52 +1100
                                              Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-11 13:30 +0000
                                                Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-11 14:12 +0000
                                                Re: DEC and The Americans Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-11 11:20 -0600
                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 04:58 +1100
                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 13:57 -0600
                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-11 21:22 +0000
                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-11 17:07 -0600
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 17:11 -0600
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-11 15:32 -0800
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-11 17:56 -0600
                                                            Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-11 22:36 -0500
                                                              Re: DEC and The Americans Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-12 00:35 -0600
                                                                Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-12 23:47 -0800
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 05:04 -0600
                                                              Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-12 04:22 -0400
                                                              Re: DEC and The Americans davidmylastname@acm.org (David Griffith) - 2016-02-12 23:19 +0000
                                                              Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-12 23:42 -0800
                                                            Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-12 23:32 -0800
                                                              Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-16 15:58 +0000
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-11 22:39 -0500
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 15:35 +1100
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans terry-groups@glaver.org - 2016-02-11 17:47 -0800
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-11 22:39 -0600
                                                            Re: DEC and The Americans Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-12 12:22 +0000
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-12 07:23 -0700
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-12 14:50 -0500
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Clark G <clarkm.geimsler@ieeemmm.org> - 2016-02-16 01:39 +0000
                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-12 04:17 -0400
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-12 23:50 -0800
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-13 08:48 +0000
                                                            Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-13 16:54 -0400
                                                              Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 19:06 -0800
                                                                Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-14 03:50 -0400
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-14 14:11 -0600
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-15 07:35 +1100
                                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-15 10:37 +0000
                                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 05:09 +1100
                                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-15 17:05 -0400
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-14 18:07 -0800
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-14 19:35 -0800
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-15 10:33 +0000
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-14 17:58 -0800
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-15 03:08 -0400
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-15 08:21 +0000
                                                                Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-14 10:07 +0100
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-14 16:25 +0000
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-14 21:43 +0100
                                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-14 22:07 +0000
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-15 21:27 +0000
                                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-16 00:36 +0100
                                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 03:42 +0000
                                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 21:25 -0800
                                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-17 09:40 +0000
                                                                            Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 15:04 +0100
                                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 14:57 +0100
                                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-16 09:09 +0000
                                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2016-02-17 01:08 +0800
                                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-16 18:55 +0100
                                                                Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-14 15:24 +0000
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-15 04:48 +1100
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-14 21:40 +0100
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-15 11:42 +1100
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-15 10:29 +0000
                                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-15 06:02 -0800
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-14 17:22 -0400
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-14 18:13 -0800
                                                                Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-15 21:27 +0000
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-15 23:45 -0500
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 00:16 +0000
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-15 21:00 -0800
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 03:42 +0000
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-16 09:12 +0000
                                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-16 15:29 -0500
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-13 16:47 -0400
                                                            Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-13 18:54 -0800
                                                              Re: DEC and The Americans Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-13 22:05 -0600
                                                      Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-12 13:40 +0000
                                                        Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-12 23:54 -0800
                                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-13 16:27 +0000
                                                            Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-13 18:05 +0000
                                                              Re: DEC and The Americans roger.ivie@gmail.com - 2016-02-13 11:18 -0800
                                                                Re: DEC and The Americans Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-02-15 22:19 -0500
                                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-15 23:47 -0500
                                                Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 04:44 +1100
                                                  Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-12 13:40 +0000
                                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 05:18 +1100
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-09 18:42 +0100
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-10 12:46 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-08 21:09 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Warren Adams <adamswa@hiwaay.net> - 2016-02-08 17:00 -0600
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-09 03:18 +0000
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-08 08:14 -0800
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-08 16:46 +0000
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2016-02-08 16:50 +0000
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-02-08 19:13 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 11:26 -0600
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-08 18:26 +0000
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 17:26 -0600
                                Re: DEC and The Americans Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-08 16:16 -0600
                                  Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-09 14:21 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "Hilo Black" <hbk897@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 02:05 +1100
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-09 15:49 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-09 15:07 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-09 15:47 +0000
                                    Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 19:01 -0500
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-10 12:46 +0000
                                      Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-10 07:34 +0100
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-11 04:30 -0400
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-11 13:30 +0000
                                            Re: DEC and The Americans "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-12 04:40 +1100
                                            Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-12 04:03 -0400
                                              Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-12 13:40 +0000
                                                Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-12 15:51 -0400
                                        Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-11 14:09 +0000
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-11 18:42 +0000
                                            Re: DEC and The Americans JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-11 13:59 -0600
                                            Re: DEC and The Americans Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-12 08:13 +0000
                                              Re: DEC and The Americans "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-12 12:42 -0600
                                            Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-12 04:46 -0400
                                              Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-12 12:20 +0000
                                          Re: DEC and The Americans Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-12 04:33 -0400
    Re: DEC and The Americans Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2016-01-25 17:27 +0000
      Re: DEC and The Americans Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-25 11:18 -0800
    Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-25 10:24 -0800
      Re: DEC and The Americans "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-26 06:14 +1100
      Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-25 17:53 -0500
        Re: DEC and The Americans "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-26 10:40 +1100
    Re: DEC and The Americans "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-26 05:40 +1100
    Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 19:12 -0500
      Re: DEC and The Americans RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-01-26 14:22 +0000
        Re: DEC and The Americans Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-26 16:20 +0100
          Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-26 11:36 -0500
          Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 18:37 -0500
            Re: DEC and The Americans Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-27 03:58 +0000
              Re: DEC and The Americans Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-27 06:16 +0000
              Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-27 15:42 +0000
              Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-27 18:14 +0000
        Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 18:34 -0500
    Re: DEC and The Americans Evan Koblentz <ekoblentz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 09:03 -0800
      Re: DEC and The Americans Evan Koblentz <ekoblentz@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 09:07 -0800
      Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-27 17:31 -0500
      Re: DEC and The Americans RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2016-01-28 10:17 +0000
        Re: DEC and The Americans Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-28 07:26 -0800
        Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-28 11:36 -0500
        Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-28 10:31 -0800
          Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-28 19:23 -0500
            Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-29 14:07 +0000
              Re: DEC and The Americans Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 20:12 +0000
                Re: DEC and The Americans mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-29 21:11 +0000
                  Re: DEC and The Americans Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 19:30 -0500
                    Re: DEC and The Americans Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-01-29 21:20 -0400
                      Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-30 12:48 -0800
                        Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-31 11:17 -0500
                          Re: DEC and The Americans hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-02 15:09 -0800
                            Re: DEC and The Americans Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-03 12:40 -0500
                      Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-01 14:42 +0000
                        Re: DEC and The Americans jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-01 16:03 +0000
                          Re: DEC and The Americans scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-01 17:11 +0000
    Re: DEC and The Americans bleep@compy.0-0 (Colonel Bleep) - 2016-01-30 07:07 +0000
      Re: DEC and The Americans "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:43 -0500
      Re: DEC and The Americans Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-01-30 20:36 +0000

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#159148

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-02-11 13:30 +0000
Message-ID<PM00052B7E94B969D8@aca41ec9.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#159136
Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:PM00052B69D8F8E8E1@aca446e2.ipt.aol.com...
>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>>>Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can 3D printer do metals?  I had assume they were plastics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Over 10 years ago I bought some 3D printed "mathematical art", I
>>>>> understand they're made from layers of powdered steel that's sintered
>>>>> by
>>>>> laser, then the resulting form is soaked in bronze and polished by
>>>>> hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt/process>
>>>>
>>>>I'd forgotten about laser.  I was thinking of metals like I saw
>>>>when my grade school class spent a day at Ford Motors.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There has been a fair amount of progress in the last fifty years.
>>>
>>> You'd likely not recognize a modern automobile manufacturing facility.
>>
>> I don't think they roll their own metal sheets anymore...right?
>> It's really too bad that companies can't show their methods to
>> school kids.
>
> They do, in docos like Ultimate Factories and Megafactories,
> and show you a hell of a lot more, and a hell of a lot better
> than any visit by a group of school kids can ever do.

TV doesn't provide the sounds, smells, nor temperatures of a
production line.  NOr does it give a body a sense of the size
of a production plant.

/BAH

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#159151

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2016-02-11 14:12 +0000
Message-ID<bF0vy.39917$kI5.26435@fx04.iad>
In reply to#159148
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:

>
>TV doesn't provide the sounds, smells, nor temperatures of a
>production line.  NOr does it give a body a sense of the size
>of a production plant.
>
>/BAH

https://forums.teslamotors.com/forum/forums/factory-tour-notes

Tesla is in the former NUMI facility (GM/Toyota joint venture).

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#159152

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2016-02-11 11:20 -0600
Message-ID<n9ifot$1oj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#159148
On 2/11/2016 7:30 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:PM00052B69D8F8E8E1@aca446e2.ipt.aol.com...
>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can 3D printer do metals?  I had assume they were plastics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over 10 years ago I bought some 3D printed "mathematical art", I
>>>>>> understand they're made from layers of powdered steel that's sintered
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> laser, then the resulting form is soaked in bronze and polished by
>>>>>> hand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt/process>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd forgotten about laser.  I was thinking of metals like I saw
>>>>> when my grade school class spent a day at Ford Motors.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There has been a fair amount of progress in the last fifty years.
>>>>
>>>> You'd likely not recognize a modern automobile manufacturing facility.
>>>
>>> I don't think they roll their own metal sheets anymore...right?
>>> It's really too bad that companies can't show their methods to
>>> school kids.
>>
>> They do, in docos like Ultimate Factories and Megafactories,
>> and show you a hell of a lot more, and a hell of a lot better
>> than any visit by a group of school kids can ever do.
>
> TV doesn't provide the sounds, smells, nor temperatures of a
> production line.  NOr does it give a body a sense of the size
> of a production plant.
>
Gotta agree. A TV show may provide data that is more organized, but 
it's not "real", it's just a TV show. A physical visit conveys much 
more of the feel of the real thing. When I was in middle school/high 
school I got to visit the telco switching office (still relay-based 
and it made a hell of a noise), a couple of labs, a machine shop, a 
glass factory, etc. I expect a TV prog would have conveyed far more 
theoretical knowledge, but none of the experience.

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#159155

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-12 04:58 +1100
Message-ID<di40enFgcb5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#159152

"Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
news:n9ifot$1oj$1@dont-email.me...
> On 2/11/2016 7:30 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:PM00052B69D8F8E8E1@aca446e2.ipt.aol.com...
>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>>>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can 3D printer do metals?  I had assume they were plastics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over 10 years ago I bought some 3D printed "mathematical art", I
>>>>>>> understand they're made from layers of powdered steel that's 
>>>>>>> sintered
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> laser, then the resulting form is soaked in bronze and polished by
>>>>>>> hand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt/process>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd forgotten about laser.  I was thinking of metals like I saw
>>>>>> when my grade school class spent a day at Ford Motors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There has been a fair amount of progress in the last fifty years.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd likely not recognize a modern automobile manufacturing facility.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think they roll their own metal sheets anymore...right?
>>>> It's really too bad that companies can't show their methods to
>>>> school kids.
>>>
>>> They do, in docos like Ultimate Factories and Megafactories,
>>> and show you a hell of a lot more, and a hell of a lot better
>>> than any visit by a group of school kids can ever do.
>>
>> TV doesn't provide the sounds, smells, nor temperatures of a
>> production line.  NOr does it give a body a sense of the size
>> of a production plant.

> Gotta agree.

I obviously don’t.

> A TV show may provide data that is more organized,

And provides exposure to the people no tour ever does like
the designers and why things are done in a particular way, like
why very little of what is done is done with 3D printers for example.

> but it's not "real",

It can be much more real, particularly with the stuff like where
they do the testing of the Abrahams tank after its been made
etc. Something no tour can ever do anything like as well.

> it's just a TV show.

That's as silly as saying a tour is just a tour.

> A physical visit conveys much more of the feel of the real thing.

Yes, but misses out on showing you the fundamentals of
the operation that can't be seen close up by the kids doing
the tour for safety reasons.

> When I was in middle school/high school I got to visit the telco switching 
> office (still relay-based and it made a hell of a noise),

I got my own personal tour of ours, because I knew the people
involved. And while you do get some stuff like the noise rather
better in a tour than in a doco, you miss out on the stuff that
it isnt feasible to show someone on a tour, like what's involved
in the installation and heavy maintenance etc.

Same with the local TV transmission tower and the transmitters.

> a couple of labs, a machine shop, a glass factory, etc. I expect a TV prog 
> would have conveyed far more theoretical knowledge, but none of the 
> experience.

The best of them can in fact provide much more experience
of some of areas where no tour would ever be allowed to go,
like with the way the Abraham tank is tested once its been made.

In spades with aircraft and even cars.

I got the same thing a couple of months ago, had a day to piss
against the wall in Sydney. Went to our PowerHouse Museum
which is one of the best of the technology museums. Kept
thinking as I wandered around the mostly static displays
with most a card describing the significance of each one,
how much better a doco could have done each display.

There was in fact a tour group of kids there at the time
and they spend most of their time running around playing
silly buggers in the media section of the displays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerhouse_Museum 

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#159158

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-11 13:57 -0600
Message-ID<roppbbt56qbrc5j8l0lv7g5q5u37drcsj5@4ax.com>
In reply to#159152
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 11:20:39 -0600, Dave Garland
<dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:
>On 2/11/2016 7:30 AM, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:PM00052B69D8F8E8E1@aca446e2.ipt.aol.com...
>>>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>>>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>>>>> jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can 3D printer do metals?  I had assume they were plastics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over 10 years ago I bought some 3D printed "mathematical art", I
>>>>>>> understand they're made from layers of powdered steel that's sintered
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> laser, then the resulting form is soaked in bronze and polished by
>>>>>>> hand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.bathsheba.com/sculpt/process>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd forgotten about laser.  I was thinking of metals like I saw
>>>>>> when my grade school class spent a day at Ford Motors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There has been a fair amount of progress in the last fifty years.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'd likely not recognize a modern automobile manufacturing facility.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think they roll their own metal sheets anymore...right?
>>>> It's really too bad that companies can't show their methods to
>>>> school kids.
>>>
>>> They do, in docos like Ultimate Factories and Megafactories,
>>> and show you a hell of a lot more, and a hell of a lot better
>>> than any visit by a group of school kids can ever do.
>>
>> TV doesn't provide the sounds, smells, nor temperatures of a
>> production line.  NOr does it give a body a sense of the size
>> of a production plant.
>>
>Gotta agree. A TV show may provide data that is more organized, but 
>it's not "real", it's just a TV show. A physical visit conveys much 
>more of the feel of the real thing. When I was in middle school/high 
>school I got to visit the telco switching office (still relay-based 
>and it made a hell of a noise), a couple of labs, a machine shop, a 
>glass factory, etc. I expect a TV prog would have conveyed far more 
>theoretical knowledge, but none of the experience.

I remember a Saturday show, most were about 5 minutes, called
'Industry on Parade'.

They showed industry processes with the noise and the steam plumes,
etc. Only smell was absent.

-- 
JimP.

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#159160

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2016-02-11 21:22 +0000
Message-ID<n9iu2c01o3t@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#159158
On 2016-02-11, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:

> I remember a Saturday show, most were about 5 minutes, called
> 'Industry on Parade'.
>
> They showed industry processes with the noise and the steam plumes,
> etc. Only smell was absent.

I remember that show too.  Great fun.

Still, as others pointed out, there's nothing quite like seeing,
hearing, and feeling the real thing.

-- 
/~\  cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs)
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 X   Top-posted messages will probably be ignored.  See RFC1855.
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#159161

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2016-02-11 17:07 -0600
Message-ID<di4ii8Fl29lU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#159160
"Charlie Gibbs" wrote:

> On 2016-02-11, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember a Saturday show, most were about 5 minutes, called
>> 'Industry on Parade'.
>>
>> They showed industry processes with the noise and the steam plumes,
>> etc. Only smell was absent.
>
> I remember that show too.  Great fun.
>
> Still, as others pointed out, there's nothing quite like seeing,
> hearing, and feeling the real thing.

My guess is that the lawyers have pretty well eliminated industrial tours 
from the face of the USA.  That would be a shame because they were the best 
part of the last few years of grade school.   I remember visiting the 
Merrill, Lynch, Pearce, Fenner and Beane offices.  Bunch of old geezers 
sitting on uncomfortable oak chairs watching a blackboard and just waiting 
to make their killing on the market.

Less fond memories.  I think we spent two or three days determining whether 
the guys were sitting or setting. 

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#159162

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-11 17:11 -0600
Message-ID<e75qbbtef243i0la7bput9daoqeqc0g9t6@4ax.com>
In reply to#159161
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 17:07:56 -0600, "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
wrote:

>"Charlie Gibbs" wrote:
>
>> On 2016-02-11, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I remember a Saturday show, most were about 5 minutes, called
>>> 'Industry on Parade'.
>>>
>>> They showed industry processes with the noise and the steam plumes,
>>> etc. Only smell was absent.
>>
>> I remember that show too.  Great fun.
>>
>> Still, as others pointed out, there's nothing quite like seeing,
>> hearing, and feeling the real thing.
>
>My guess is that the lawyers have pretty well eliminated industrial tours 
>from the face of the USA.  That would be a shame because they were the best 
>part of the last few years of grade school.   I remember visiting the 
>Merrill, Lynch, Pearce, Fenner and Beane offices.  Bunch of old geezers 
>sitting on uncomfortable oak chairs watching a blackboard and just waiting 
>to make their killing on the market.
>
>Less fond memories.  I think we spent two or three days determining whether 
>the guys were sitting or setting. 

We went to a honey plant, with a closed tunnel so bees could enter the
building where the tours came in. Scared us kids.

-- 
JimP.

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#159163

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-02-11 15:32 -0800
Message-ID<5ac8f576-584f-4652-8f2e-b2ccd556542d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#159161
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 6:07:54 PM UTC-5, Osmium wrote:

> My guess is that the lawyers have pretty well eliminated industrial tours 
> from the face of the USA.  That would be a shame because they were the best 
> part of the last few years of grade school.   I remember visiting the 
> Merrill, Lynch, Pearce, Fenner and Beane offices.  Bunch of old geezers 
> sitting on uncomfortable oak chairs watching a blackboard and just waiting 
> to make their killing on the market.

We had some really great school tours of industry back in grade school.

But in hindsight, I am amazed that they allowed children into production
areas, including food preparation.  For instance, we had a fantastic
tour of a commercial bakery, right up close to the mixers, fermentation
room, ovens, and wrappers.  Little kids being little kids, undoubtedly
some kids sneezed into the dough.  I am amazed no kid got his sleeve 
caught in the machinery.

When we visited the US Mint, we watched from a gallery behind glass,
which wasn't as much fun.  We assumed that was for security reasons,
not safety.  (Kids grabbing free samples.  Heck, we each got a free loaf
of bread to take home at the bakery).

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#159164

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2016-02-11 17:56 -0600
Message-ID<n9j6u7$2hv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#159163
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
news:5ac8f576-584f-4652-8f2e-b2ccd556542d@googlegroups.com...
>
>            [snip...]                  [snip...] 
> [snip...]
>
> When we visited the US Mint, we watched from a gallery behind glass,
> which wasn't as much fun.  We assumed that was for security reasons,
> not safety.  (Kids grabbing free samples.  Heck, we each got a free loaf
> of bread to take home at the bakery).
>

A couple of years ago, I saw on TV where the Director of the Mint met with 
some school kids (perhaps girl and boy scouts).  He gave each one of the 
kids a "Presidential dollar" coin.  Why *not*??? I mean... it's *not* like a 
dollar is worth anything now.  :-)

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#159168

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2016-02-11 22:36 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1602112234440.11579@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#159164
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, Charles Richmond wrote:

> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
> news:5ac8f576-584f-4652-8f2e-b2ccd556542d@googlegroups.com...
>>
>>            [snip...]                  [snip...] [snip...]
>> 
>> When we visited the US Mint, we watched from a gallery behind glass,
>> which wasn't as much fun.  We assumed that was for security reasons,
>> not safety.  (Kids grabbing free samples.  Heck, we each got a free loaf
>> of bread to take home at the bakery).
>> 
>
> A couple of years ago, I saw on TV where the Director of the Mint met with 
> some school kids (perhaps girl and boy scouts).  He gave each one of the kids 
> a "Presidential dollar" coin.  Why *not*??? I mean... it's *not* like a 
> dollar is worth anything now.  :-)
>
Couldn't they just whip up some souvenir coins that have no value as 
money? Though I suppose of the tours were rare enough, the souvenir could 
become a collector's item.

I seem to recall visiting the local paper one time, and getting some lines 
of type.

   Michael

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#159172

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-02-12 00:35 -0600
Message-ID<n9ju96$rqk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#159168
On 11-Feb-16 21:36, Michael Black wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, Charles Richmond wrote:
>> A couple of years ago, I saw on TV where the Director of the Mint
>> met with some school kids (perhaps girl and boy scouts).  He gave
>> each one of the kids a "Presidential dollar" coin.  Why *not*??? I
>> mean... it's *not* like a dollar is worth anything now.  :-)
> 
> Couldn't they just whip up some souvenir coins that have no value as 
> money?

Everything the US Mint mints is money.  However, uncirculated coins,
medals, etc. sell at far higher than face value due to precious metal
content, quality/condition or both; the only worthless coins they mint
are the ones in your pocket/purse.

> Though I suppose of the tours were rare enough, the souvenir
> could become a collector's item.

Philadelphia and Denver have free tours; there are no free souvenirs,
but the tour does end in the gift shop.

> I seem to recall visiting the local paper one time, and getting some 
> lines of type.

When I toured an ice creamery, we got free samples from one of the
machines we'd seen.  That mint was much better than the US Mint.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#159215

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-02-12 23:47 -0800
Message-ID<5d89629b-4594-4292-abdc-2499bd6236a5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#159172
On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 1:35:02 AM UTC-5, Stephen Sprunk wrote:

> When I toured an ice creamery, we got free samples from one of the
> machines we'd seen.  That mint was much better than the US Mint.

We toured a dairy, but I don't think we got any samples.  I just remember 
a wet floor (we were told to wear boots for the tour), big tanks, and 
piping.  I don't recall if saw any moving machinery, like the bottling
area.

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#159221

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-02-13 05:04 -0600
Message-ID<eb3ubbluae9os6jv2crm6h8t1sfrv5jk94@4ax.com>
In reply to#159215
On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 23:47:00 -0800 (PST), hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>On Friday, February 12, 2016 at 1:35:02 AM UTC-5, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>
>> When I toured an ice creamery, we got free samples from one of the
>> machines we'd seen.  That mint was much better than the US Mint.
>
>We toured a dairy, but I don't think we got any samples.  I just remember 
>a wet floor (we were told to wear boots for the tour), big tanks, and 
>piping.  I don't recall if saw any moving machinery, like the bottling
>area.

I remember touring a small dairy in elementary school and getting to
watch them make cheese. The smell was awful.

-- 
JimP.

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#159176

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2016-02-12 04:22 -0400
Message-ID<87bn7m8hjf.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#159168
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> writes:

> I seem to recall visiting the local paper one time, and getting some
> lines of type.

In 7th grade, we visited Harvard to see the glass flowers and *the*
computer.  We each got our name punched on paper tape by the computer.
1953.  Heh.

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#159204

Fromdavidmylastname@acm.org (David Griffith)
Date2016-02-12 23:19 +0000
Message-ID<n9lpaj$nvg$1@frotz.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#159168
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, Charles Richmond wrote:
>> A couple of years ago, I saw on TV where the Director of the Mint met with 
>> some school kids (perhaps girl and boy scouts).  He gave each one of the kids 
>> a "Presidential dollar" coin.  Why *not*??? I mean... it's *not* like a 
>> dollar is worth anything now.  :-)
>>
> Couldn't they just whip up some souvenir coins that have no value as 
> money? Though I suppose of the tours were rare enough, the souvenir could 
> become a collector's item.

The coin was most likely a presidential challenge coin, which is 
precisely the kind of coin you suggest.  See 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_coin

-- 
David Griffith
davidmylastname@acm.org   <--- Put my last name where it belongs

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#159214

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-02-12 23:42 -0800
Message-ID<1ffd3998-2927-411b-b54a-aae5bb66ac53@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#159168
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 10:31:16 PM UTC-5, Michael Black wrote:


> Couldn't they just whip up some souvenir coins that have no value as 
> money? Though I suppose of the tours were rare enough, the souvenir could 
> become a collector's item.

I think the mint did make souvenir coins, but these were sold, too.

No freebies.


> I seem to recall visiting the local paper one time, and getting some lines 
> of type.

Yes, the newspaper was another neat tour, we got up close to the presses.
I don't think anyone got a line of type (being lead, probably not good for
a kid).  However, the type was used to press a mat, and they gave us old
mats, which were neat to have.

In hindsight, some of these facilities handled tons of tour groups
every day--plenty of school kids, as well as the general public, too.
I presume they figured the expense of having tour guides and handouts
was good p/r.  When I got my free loaf of bread, plus some goodies,
I certainly came home and told my parents to shop at the store from
now on because of the great way they treated us.

But some tours were boring.  The zoo was hordes of bees flying around,
despite bee traps all over.  The textile college and agricultural school
were boring.  I thought the archaeology museum was boring, though the other
kids liked it.

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#159213

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-02-12 23:32 -0800
Message-ID<ac6a7f0e-440c-40a3-90ae-8b07a00a7d8a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#159164
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 6:56:38 PM UTC-5, Charles Richmond wrote:


> A couple of years ago, I saw on TV where the Director of the Mint met with 
> some school kids (perhaps girl and boy scouts).  He gave each one of the 
> kids a "Presidential dollar" coin.  Why *not*??? I mean... it's *not* like a 
> dollar is worth anything now.  :-)

We got an order form for that year's proof set.  Our teacher said it
was a good buy as proof sets go up in value.

When it came, we were disappointed as the coins were wrapped in cheap
cellophane.  The point of a proof coin is its flawless mirrored finish.
But the cellophane wrapper prevented appreciation of the quality.

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#159493

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2016-02-16 15:58 +0000
Message-ID<UGHwy.62000$87.44866@fx11.iad>
In reply to#159213
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
>On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 6:56:38 PM UTC-5, Charles Richmond wrote:
>
>
>> A couple of years ago, I saw on TV where the Director of the Mint met with 
>> some school kids (perhaps girl and boy scouts).  He gave each one of the 
>> kids a "Presidential dollar" coin.  Why *not*??? I mean... it's *not* like a 
>> dollar is worth anything now.  :-)
>
>We got an order form for that year's proof set.  Our teacher said it
>was a good buy as proof sets go up in value.
>
>When it came, we were disappointed as the coins were wrapped in cheap
>cellophane.  The point of a proof coin is its flawless mirrored finish.
>But the cellophane wrapper prevented appreciation of the quality.
>

Uncirculated sets come in the cellophane.

Proof sets are in plastic cases (at least since 1971 which is
the oldest set I have).

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#159169

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2016-02-11 22:39 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1602112237030.11579@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#159163
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:

> On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 6:07:54 PM UTC-5, Osmium wrote:
>
>> My guess is that the lawyers have pretty well eliminated industrial tours
>> from the face of the USA.  That would be a shame because they were the best
>> part of the last few years of grade school.   I remember visiting the
>> Merrill, Lynch, Pearce, Fenner and Beane offices.  Bunch of old geezers
>> sitting on uncomfortable oak chairs watching a blackboard and just waiting
>> to make their killing on the market.
>
> We had some really great school tours of industry back in grade school.
>
> But in hindsight, I am amazed that they allowed children into production
> areas, including food preparation.  For instance, we had a fantastic
> tour of a commercial bakery, right up close to the mixers, fermentation
> room, ovens, and wrappers.  Little kids being little kids, undoubtedly
> some kids sneezed into the dough.  I am amazed no kid got his sleeve
> caught in the machinery.
>
> When we visited the US Mint, we watched from a gallery behind glass,
> which wasn't as much fun.  We assumed that was for security reasons,
> not safety.  (Kids grabbing free samples.  Heck, we each got a free loaf
> of bread to take home at the bakery).
>
I visited the Tuborg factory in Copenhagen, I guess something my father 
was interested in.  Afterwards, there were free samples, oddly enough they 
had soft drinks for the kids, making me think they bottled soft drinks 
there too (but much later I realized they were probably there for any 
visiting kids).

Sadly, I don't remember much of the tour.  Getting behind the scenes at 
various aquariums was more interesting.  And at one museum in Denmark, I 
was given a flintlock mechanism.

   Michael

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