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Thanks Obama

Started byDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
First post2016-01-18 10:35 -0500
Last post2016-01-24 10:08 +0000
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  Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-18 10:35 -0500
    Re: Thanks Obama Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-01-18 16:09 +0000
      Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-18 17:17 +0000
        Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-18 19:19 +0000
      Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-19 00:44 -0400
        Re: Thanks Obama Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-01-19 07:28 +0000
          Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 12:42 +0000
    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 11:18 -0500
      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 04:25 +1100
        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 13:56 -0500
          Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-18 13:08 -0600
            Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-18 12:00 -0800
              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 15:28 -0500
            Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-19 09:45 +0100
              Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 20:37 +1100
          Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 11:35 +1100
            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:39 -0500
              Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 07:22 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 06:42 -0500
          Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-18 18:55 -0600
            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:41 -0500
              Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-18 22:40 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 23:11 -0500
                  Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-18 23:26 -0500
                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 08:08 +0000
                  Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:56 -0600
                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:57 -0500
                      Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 21:32 -0600
                      Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-20 14:12 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 03:05 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 12:27 -0800
                    Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 12:55 -0800
              Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:06 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 06:48 -0500
                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 14:44 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 09:07 -0600
                      Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 06:43 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:49 -0500
                        Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 12:09 +0000
                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-20 15:21 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-20 16:24 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-20 17:04 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:09 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 05:44 +1100
                        Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-20 10:53 -0600
                          Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 11:22 -0600
                            Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 20:19 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:47 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 21:24 +0000
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:55 +1100
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-20 17:07 -0800
                                  Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 11:59 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 16:32 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-23 12:03 -0800
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-23 15:12 -0600
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-23 14:14 -0800
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-23 21:17 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-23 14:13 -0800
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 18:25 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 18:10 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 22:40 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:03 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:01 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 12:15 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 09:07 +1100
                            Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:54 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:20 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 19:47 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 13:27 +1100
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 12:09 +1100
                    Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 07:30 -0800
                      Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-19 12:22 -0500
                        Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 05:35 +1100
                        Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 10:59 -0800
                        Re: Thanks Obama Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-01-19 16:26 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 21:31 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 17:51 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 17:05 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:59 +1100
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 20:03 -0500
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:19 +1100
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:56 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 20:12 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:31 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:45 -0500
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 15:27 +1100
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:45 -0500
                                          Re: Thanks Obama "Sam James" <cf@nospam.com> - 2016-01-21 05:26 +1100
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:48 -0500
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-20 00:56 -0600
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:16 +1100
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:47 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:17 -0800
                              Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 16:43 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-21 05:28 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:26 +1100
                          Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:22 +1100
                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 20:09 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:23 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:39 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 14:44 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:36 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 07:00 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:17 +1100
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 08:08 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:18 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:56 -0500
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-21 07:51 +0000
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:36 +1100
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 14:53 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 04:28 +1100
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 18:56 +0000
                                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 07:44 +1100
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 06:59 -0500
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-21 08:16 -0500
                                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 15:58 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-21 16:37 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-21 10:47 -0600
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-23 15:33 -0600
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-23 17:22 -0500
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-23 15:30 -0800
                                              Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-24 11:05 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 05:21 +1100
                      Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 20:56 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 17:01 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 22:11 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 18:09 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 11:44 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:09 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 16:58 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 23:48 +0000
                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:34 -0800
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:06 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:55 -0600
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-22 03:38 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 15:00 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:17 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 13:45 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 22:03 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-27 14:00 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:23 -0600
                            Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 22:32 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 20:34 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 02:51 +0000
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:46 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:19 -0800
                          Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 17:42 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:42 -0800
                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:10 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:30 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 18:35 -0600
                            Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:31 -0800
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:05 +1100
                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:20 -0600
                          Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 22:23 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 12:31 -0800
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 08:59 +1100
                          Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 17:55 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-19 17:24 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:51 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 21:04 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 03:24 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 21:52 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 15:31 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 20:53 -0800
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 17:34 +1100
                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:58 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 13:15 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 19:39 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 20:09 -0600
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 13:30 +1100
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-21 02:29 +0000
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-27 13:39 -0600
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-27 15:12 -0500
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 18:18 -0500
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-28 00:30 +0100
                                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 21:45 -0500
                                                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 20:46 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 17:26 -0600
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 13:11 -0600
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-27 15:31 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 18:20 -0500
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 12:16 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-28 14:23 +0000
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-28 09:14 -0600
                                                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-28 15:34 +0000
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-28 20:11 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 12:27 -0600
                                              Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-28 12:52 -0600
                                                Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-28 14:10 -0600
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-28 20:19 +0000
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-29 09:57 +0100
                                                    Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-29 14:08 +0000
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-29 15:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 20:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 19:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama "Simmy Jacks" <sk98@nospam.com> - 2016-01-30 05:10 +1100
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-29 22:13 +0100
                                                          Re: Thanks Obama "Orange" <oq7755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:59 +1100
                                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 15:43 -0600
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 00:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 03:06 -0400
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama "Simmy Jacks" <sk98@nospam.com> - 2016-01-29 19:53 +1100
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-29 09:12 -0600
                                                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-29 18:36 +0000
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-29 09:48 +0000
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 07:32 -0500
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-29 07:48 -0800
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-29 13:40 -0600
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 17:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-29 22:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-29 17:40 -0600
                                                              Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 19:38 -0600
                                                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-29 18:14 -0800
                                                                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:47 -0500
                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:31 -0600
                                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 10:40 -0500
                                                                        Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 13:21 -0600
                                                                          Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-31 00:16 +0000
                                                                      Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 11:21 -0500
                                                                        Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 13:24 -0600
                                                                          Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 15:32 -0500
                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 15:29 -0600
                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 16:57 -0600
                                                                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 19:00 -0500
                                                                                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:43 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 16:22 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-31 19:30 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 21:56 -0600
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                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 18:25 -0400
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                                                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-30 11:08 +0000
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                                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-21 07:35 +0000
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                                      Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-24 22:11 -0600
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-24 23:17 -0600
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-27 18:14 +0000
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                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-28 13:15 -0800
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 18:43 -0500
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                                              Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-27 09:23 +1100
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 00:38 +0000
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                            Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 18:40 -0800
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                    Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 15:51 +0000
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                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:54 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-01-20 11:32 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 17:39 +0000
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                              Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-22 17:48 -0800
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                            Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:01 +0000
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                                    Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-25 02:15 +0000
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                                      Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-24 22:08 -0600
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                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-24 11:01 -0800
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                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-24 19:23 -0800
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                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 18:33 -0500
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 11:35 -0600
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-26 18:23 +0000
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                                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 13:44 -0800
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                                                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-27 16:58 -0800
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                                                                        Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-28 14:26 +0000
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                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-29 14:03 +0000
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                                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-01 21:24 +0000
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                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 16:27 -0600
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                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-27 16:04 +0000
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                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-26 16:36 -0600
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 19:03 -0500
                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-27 13:12 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-26 09:48 -0500
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-25 10:02 -0800
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                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-25 15:16 -0600
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                                                    Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-25 14:12 -0800
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                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-26 11:04 -0800
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 11:20 -0800
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 14:29 -0600
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-28 17:08 -0800
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                                                        Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 13:37 -0800
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-27 07:46 -0800
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-27 18:14 +0000
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#157586

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-25 15:40 +1100
Message-ID<dgln9dFobsvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157559

"Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote in message 
news:n83vkp$qb4$1@dont-email.me...
> On 24-Jan-16 19:19, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> writes:
>>> The sad thing is that _nobody_ talks about the one thing that
>>> could solve all of these problems and bring peace to the Middle
>>> East (except Israel/Palestine, but that's another story): redraw
>>> the borders.
>>
>> I don't think that re-draw the borders solution is viable. With
>> India, we ended up with Pakistan/India with unending border wars and
>> only a partial separation of the antagonists.
>
> The people of Kashmir (mostly Muslim) voted to join Pakistan, but the
> Hindu in control of the area overruled them and joined India instead;
> civil war has reigned ever since--and occasionally spreads to other
> parts of India.  Balochistan and Bengal have similar post-colonial
> border problems.
>
> Move those borders to reflect the actual ethnic/religious boundaries,
> and all of those issues simply go away.

They clearly didn’t when the bulk  of the partition of India was done that 
way. 

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#157570

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2016-01-25 02:20 +0000
Message-ID<n840os09h1@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#157552
On 2016-01-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:

> Rodney King had the solution.

Too bad it's politically unacceptable.

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#157619

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2016-01-25 10:29 -0500
Message-ID<n85erd$bok$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157570
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

> On 2016-01-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Rodney King had the solution.
>
> Too bad it's politically unacceptable.

No money to be made with everyone getting along.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#157639

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2016-01-25 18:14 +0000
Message-ID<n85olt022qg@news7.newsguy.com>
In reply to#157619
On 2016-01-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:

> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2016-01-25, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Rodney King had the solution.
>>
>> Too bad it's politically unacceptable.
>
> No money to be made with everyone getting along.

Good point.  Economically unacceptable too, then.

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#157555

From"kipg" <io@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-25 12:51 +1100
Message-ID<dglddmFm8smU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157550

"Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote in message 
news:n83pqp$avm$1@dont-email.me...
> On 24-Jan-16 17:36, Dan Espen wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>> despen@verizon.net says...
>>>> As every American SHOULD know, you occupy a country, you face an
>>>> endless supply of patriots willing to die to get you out of their
>>>> country.
>>>
>>> You mean like Japan and Germany?
>>
>> True, there.  If you really beat the hell out of a country and then
>> help them recover, and not rule them, but instead assist, you can
>> create an ally.  But you can't occupy and rule.
>
> Japan and Germany were stable and homogeneous countries dragged in the
> wrong direction by their leaders; we removed those leaders and helped
> them return to stability, and mostly, the people were happy with that.

Not so true of occupied France or Holland which
were also occupied successfully by Germany.

Or Ireland.

> Bush thought the same would work in Iraq, but Saddam was the only
> thing holding Iraq together, so removing him had the opposite effect.

Doesn’t explain Vietnam or Afghanistan.

> If he'd died of natural causes, then maybe one of his sons or top generals
> could have done the same, but the entire country has been inherently
> unstable since the end of colonialism, so civil war was inevitable.

Didn’t take occupation for the civil war in the US, Spain, Britain etc.

> Afghanistan wasn't much different,

Completely different in fact leader wise.

> just with the Taliban instead of Saddam.

> Many GOPers want to do the same in Syria, but it's pretty much the
> same problem there, if not worse.  Like Iraq, they've been due for a
> civil war for 50+ years, and the US intervening will not change that,
> merely make it even more bloody than it needs to be.

Have fun explaining Greece.

> The sad thing is that _nobody_ talks about the one thing that could
> solve all of these problems and bring peace to the Middle East (except
> Israel/Palestine, but that's another story): redraw the borders.

Plenty do in fact talk about that and that approach
was tried after WW1 and didn’t work at all. 

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#157750

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2016-01-26 14:36 +0100
Message-ID<lc9knc-lc6.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#157555
In article <dglddmFm8smU1@mid.individual.net>, kipg <io@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote in message 
>news:n83pqp$avm$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 24-Jan-16 17:36, Dan Espen wrote:
>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> despen@verizon.net says...
>
>> Afghanistan wasn't much different,
>
>Completely different in fact leader wise.
>
>> just with the Taliban instead of Saddam.
>
>> Many GOPers want to do the same in Syria, but it's pretty much the
>> same problem there, if not worse.  Like Iraq, they've been due for a
>> civil war for 50+ years, and the US intervening will not change that,
>> merely make it even more bloody than it needs to be.
>
>Have fun explaining Greece.

Greece? Does that need explaining? They were savagely occupied by the Nazis, 
then liberated by the Allies, but continued fighting a civil war between the
whites and the reds; where the USSR stayed out and the UK, France and the US
supplied the whites. There are ~50 000 refugees in Ukraine to this day from
the reds that fled when they lost.

The whites did not do a good job of anything. Running the country, they 
didn't even manage to collect more than around half the levied taxes. Much
less handle a welfare state. This led to turmoil in the 70s, and they had
a Junta take power for 4 years. When this fell they had an alternating 
Christian Democracy(Nea Demokratia) and Social Democracy(PASOK) government
until ca 2012.

They faked their entry into the Eurozone by a huge margin. They were still
unable to collect more than around 2/3rds of the taxes actually levied, and
had huge holes in their statistics and accounting. No greek state budget has
even been close to passing an audit, ever. 

Pre-Euro they levied a crisis tax by devaluing, cutting spending when things
got too hot. Printing money (which devaluation is) is a flat tax on everyone.
This way they managed to collect, even from the shipowners with literally a
million deductions in their declarations.

In the financial crisis they were caught between a rock and a hard place.
The governments tried austerity, but ended up with a pure anti-Keynsian
policy. They should have left the Euro then. The result was that all existing
parties were wiped out in the next election.

Now the new parties have to try to cope.

The US is only peripherally involved after ca 1949. And, yes, Greece has
been a staunch NATO member all the time.

-- mrr

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#157786

From"kipg" <io@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-27 04:43 +1100
Message-ID<dgppioFpkdcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157750

"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
news:lc9knc-lc6.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
> In article <dglddmFm8smU1@mid.individual.net>, kipg <io@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote in message
>>news:n83pqp$avm$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 24-Jan-16 17:36, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> despen@verizon.net says...
>>
>>> Afghanistan wasn't much different,
>>
>>Completely different in fact leader wise.
>>
>>> just with the Taliban instead of Saddam.
>>
>>> Many GOPers want to do the same in Syria, but it's pretty much the
>>> same problem there, if not worse.  Like Iraq, they've been due for a
>>> civil war for 50+ years, and the US intervening will not change that,
>>> merely make it even more bloody than it needs to be.
>>
>>Have fun explaining Greece.
>
> Greece? Does that need explaining?

It does on civil war for 50+ years.

> They were savagely occupied by the Nazis,

No more savagely than plenty of other places like Poland.

> then liberated by the Allies, but continued fighting a civil war
> between the whites and the reds; where the USSR stayed out
> and the UK, France and the US supplied the whites.

Not significantly. They were mostly left to their own
devices, just like Ireland was when they had theirs.

> There are ~50 000 refugees in Ukraine to this
> day from the reds that fled when they lost.

And huge numbers migrated all over the world.

> The whites did not do a good job of anything.

True in spades of Italy although it did a lot better
industrially. Greece did a lot better with shipping.

> Running the country, they didn't even manage to collect
> more than around half the levied taxes. Much less handle
> a welfare state. This led to turmoil in the 70s, and they had
> a Junta take power for 4 years. When this fell they had an
> alternating  Christian Democracy(Nea Demokratia) and
> Social Democracy(PASOK) government until ca 2012.

> They faked their entry into the Eurozone by a huge margin. They
> were still unable to collect more than around 2/3rds of the taxes
> actually levied, and had huge holes in their statistics and accounting.
> No greek state budget has even been close to passing an audit, ever.

That's all a quite separate question to ongoing civil war.

> Pre-Euro they levied a crisis tax by devaluing, cutting spending when
> things got too hot. Printing money (which devaluation is) is a flat tax
> on everyone. This way they managed to collect, even from the
> shipowners with literally a million deductions in their declarations.

> In the financial crisis they were caught between a rock and a hard place.
> The governments tried austerity, but ended up with a pure anti-Keynsian
> policy. They should have left the Euro then. The result was that all 
> existing
> parties were wiped out in the next election.

> Now the new parties have to try to cope.

And can't possibly succeed because massive cuts just kill the economy.

> The US is only peripherally involved after ca 1949.

Hardly involved at all in fact.

> And, yes, Greece has been a staunch NATO member all the time.

But has never been called upon to contribute much to NATO and
in fact produced the obscenity that was Cyprus for many years.

The short story is that those fools couldn’t run a pissup in a fucking 
brewery.

Italy isnt much better politically. 

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#157827

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2016-01-26 22:17 +0100
Message-ID<6d4lnc-ld7.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#157786
In article <dgppioFpkdcU1@mid.individual.net>, kipg <io@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:lc9knc-lc6.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>> In article <dglddmFm8smU1@mid.individual.net>, kipg <io@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>"Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote in message
>>>news:n83pqp$avm$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 24-Jan-16 17:36, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>> despen@verizon.net says...
>>>
>>>> Afghanistan wasn't much different,
>>>
>>>Completely different in fact leader wise.
>>>
>>>> just with the Taliban instead of Saddam.
>>>
>>>> Many GOPers want to do the same in Syria, but it's pretty much the
>>>> same problem there, if not worse.  Like Iraq, they've been due for a
>>>> civil war for 50+ years, and the US intervening will not change that,
>>>> merely make it even more bloody than it needs to be.
>>>
>>>Have fun explaining Greece.
>>
>> Greece? Does that need explaining?
>
>It does on civil war for 50+ years.

No.

The Greek civil war ended in 1949. The whites won. The reds lost.
The whites ran the place until 1967; as a pretty democratic but stagnant
country. No reds needed to apply, though. 

>> They were savagely occupied by the Nazis,
>
>No more savagely than plenty of other places like Poland.
>
>> then liberated by the Allies, but continued fighting a civil war
>> between the whites and the reds; where the USSR stayed out
>> and the UK, France and the US supplied the whites.
>
>Not significantly. They were mostly left to their own
>devices, just like Ireland was when they had theirs.
>
>> There are ~50 000 refugees in Ukraine to this
>> day from the reds that fled when they lost.
>
>And huge numbers migrated all over the world.
>
>> The whites did not do a good job of anything.
>
>True in spades of Italy although it did a lot better
>industrially. Greece did a lot better with shipping.
>
>> Running the country, they didn't even manage to collect
>> more than around half the levied taxes. Much less handle
>> a welfare state. This led to turmoil in the 70s, and they had
>> a Junta take power for 4 years. When this fell they had an
>> alternating  Christian Democracy(Nea Demokratia) and
>> Social Democracy(PASOK) government until ca 2012.
>
>> They faked their entry into the Eurozone by a huge margin. They
>> were still unable to collect more than around 2/3rds of the taxes
>> actually levied, and had huge holes in their statistics and accounting.
>> No greek state budget has even been close to passing an audit, ever.
>
>That's all a quite separate question to ongoing civil war.

Greece has lived in peace since 1949. There have been some
riots, most notably in 1974 when the junta eventually gave up, 
and in 2009-14. But nothing major in terms of violence.

Why harp on a civil war that was ended after less than 
4 years, more than 65 years ago? 

Stalin stayed out. The reds didn't have a chance alone. But
they fought until the end was imminent, and then the ones who
could fled. Most of them to Odessa, which had already taken ~50k
children in an evacuation. In total more than 100k left for there.
More than 50k are still there.

>> Pre-Euro they levied a crisis tax by devaluing, cutting spending when
>> things got too hot. Printing money (which devaluation is) is a flat tax
>> on everyone. This way they managed to collect, even from the
>> shipowners with literally a million deductions in their declarations.
>
>> In the financial crisis they were caught between a rock and a hard place.
>> The governments tried austerity, but ended up with a pure anti-Keynsian
>> policy. They should have left the Euro then. The result was that all 
>> existing
>> parties were wiped out in the next election.
>
>> Now the new parties have to try to cope.
>
>And can't possibly succeed because massive cuts just kill the economy.
>
>> The US is only peripherally involved after ca 1949.
>
>Hardly involved at all in fact.
>
>> And, yes, Greece has been a staunch NATO member all the time.
>
>But has never been called upon to contribute much to NATO and
>in fact produced the obscenity that was Cyprus for many years.

Cyprus made itself. They didn't need the greeks to make that
mess.

>The short story is that those fools couldn’t run a pissup in a fucking 
>brewery.
>
>Italy isnt much better politically. 

The problem with Greece from ca 1980 onwards hasn't been
politics; it has been execution. 

They have tried to implement a german-style mixed economy with
elements of a welfare state. Which seems to be what the greek
people wants.

But they fail to collect the taxes, and that is just the start
of the failings. 

And they are simply unable to settle a budget. 

Shipping etc. succeed because they have low wages for professional
seamen, and are pretty much independent of the Greek nation. 

The Greek are also very good sailors.

-- mrr



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#157839

From"kipg" <io@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-27 09:50 +1100
Message-ID<dgqbgsFu8vlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157827

"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
news:6d4lnc-ld7.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>
> In article <dgppioFpkdcU1@mid.individual.net>, kipg <io@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:lc9knc-lc6.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>>> In article <dglddmFm8smU1@mid.individual.net>, kipg <io@nospam.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:n83pqp$avm$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 24-Jan-16 17:36, Dan Espen wrote:
>>>>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>> despen@verizon.net says...
>>>>
>>>>> Afghanistan wasn't much different,
>>>>
>>>>Completely different in fact leader wise.
>>>>
>>>>> just with the Taliban instead of Saddam.
>>>>
>>>>> Many GOPers want to do the same in Syria, but it's pretty much the
>>>>> same problem there, if not worse.  Like Iraq, they've been due for a
>>>>> civil war for 50+ years, and the US intervening will not change that,
>>>>> merely make it even more bloody than it needs to be.
>>>>
>>>>Have fun explaining Greece.
>>>
>>> Greece? Does that need explaining?
>>
>>It does on civil war for 50+ years.
>
> No.
>
> The Greek civil war ended in 1949. The whites won. The reds lost.
> The whites ran the place until 1967; as a pretty democratic but stagnant
> country. No reds needed to apply, though.

So the civil war didn’t in fact end in 49 except officially.

>>> They were savagely occupied by the Nazis,
>>
>>No more savagely than plenty of other places like Poland.
>>
>>> then liberated by the Allies, but continued fighting a civil war
>>> between the whites and the reds; where the USSR stayed out
>>> and the UK, France and the US supplied the whites.
>>
>>Not significantly. They were mostly left to their own
>>devices, just like Ireland was when they had theirs.
>>
>>> There are ~50 000 refugees in Ukraine to this
>>> day from the reds that fled when they lost.
>>
>>And huge numbers migrated all over the world.
>>
>>> The whites did not do a good job of anything.
>>
>>True in spades of Italy although it did a lot better
>>industrially. Greece did a lot better with shipping.
>>
>>> Running the country, they didn't even manage to collect
>>> more than around half the levied taxes. Much less handle
>>> a welfare state. This led to turmoil in the 70s, and they had
>>> a Junta take power for 4 years. When this fell they had an
>>> alternating  Christian Democracy(Nea Demokratia) and
>>> Social Democracy(PASOK) government until ca 2012.
>>
>>> They faked their entry into the Eurozone by a huge margin. They
>>> were still unable to collect more than around 2/3rds of the taxes
>>> actually levied, and had huge holes in their statistics and accounting.
>>> No greek state budget has even been close to passing an audit, ever.
>>
>>That's all a quite separate question to ongoing civil war.
>
> Greece has lived in peace since 1949.

A junta isnt living in peace.

There have been some
> riots, most notably in 1974 when the junta eventually gave up,
> and in 2009-14. But nothing major in terms of violence.
>
> Why harp on a civil war that was ended after less than
> 4 years, more than 65 years ago?

Civil war was being discussed when I made the original comment.

> Stalin stayed out. The reds didn't have a chance alone.

Just as true of Spain.

> But they fought until the end was imminent, and then the ones who
> could fled. Most of them to Odessa, which had already taken ~50k
> children in an evacuation. In total more than 100k left for there.
> More than 50k are still there.

And then the junta which was just more of the civil war.

>>> Pre-Euro they levied a crisis tax by devaluing, cutting spending when
>>> things got too hot. Printing money (which devaluation is) is a flat tax
>>> on everyone. This way they managed to collect, even from the
>>> shipowners with literally a million deductions in their declarations.
>>
>>> In the financial crisis they were caught between a rock and a hard 
>>> place.
>>> The governments tried austerity, but ended up with a pure anti-Keynsian
>>> policy. They should have left the Euro then. The result was that all
>>> existing
>>> parties were wiped out in the next election.
>>
>>> Now the new parties have to try to cope.
>>
>>And can't possibly succeed because massive cuts just kill the economy.
>>
>>> The US is only peripherally involved after ca 1949.
>>
>>Hardly involved at all in fact.
>>
>>> And, yes, Greece has been a staunch NATO member all the time.
>>
>>But has never been called upon to contribute much to NATO and
>>in fact produced the obscenity that was Cyprus for many years.
>
> Cyprus made itself.

No it did not.

> They didn't need the greeks to make that mess.

That's what happened anyway.

>>The short story is that those fools couldn’t run a pissup in a fucking
>>brewery.
>>
>>Italy isnt much better politically.
>
> The problem with Greece from ca 1980 onwards hasn't been
> politics; it has been execution.

Sure, but it took that long for the civil war to be over.

> They have tried to implement a german-style mixed economy with
> elements of a welfare state. Which seems to be what the greek
> people wants.

But they aren't prepared to pay for what they want
and the level of what they want isnt affordable by
the greek economy.

> But they fail to collect the taxes, and that is just the start
> of the failings.

Yes, the real problem is that what they want isnt affordable
by the greek economy.

> And they are simply unable to settle a budget.

For that reason, it's just not possible to pay for
what the people want, even if they so start paying
the taxes that would be needed to pay for it.

> Shipping etc. succeed because they have low wages for professional
> seamen, and are pretty much independent of the Greek nation.

And are prepared to use very cheap foreign labor for the
bulk of the crew that aren't doing anything too demanding.

> The Greek are also very good sailors.

That isnt what modern shipping is about. 

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#157572

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-24 21:53 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.310f583b1f273c6f989e92@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157549
In article <n83n1g$1mi$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
> 
> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > In article <n83g8i$5ag$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
> >> 
> >> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > In article <ea653732-4ae8-4809-9b83-cab0325e1d0f@googlegroups.com>, 
> >> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 12:46:16 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > Also, in Iraq, women have been raped by ISIS, and irreplaceable historic 
> >> >> > monuments have been destroyed by it - one quite recently, in fact. Again, the 
> >> >> > U.S. military was not capable of preventing this.
> >> >> 
> >> >> >The U.S. military will not be "underfunded" when bad things like this stop
> >> >> >happening in the world, and everyone enjoys peace and freedom.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Funding is only one part of the factors that go into "capability".
> >> >> 
> >> >> There must also be a political will--a willingness to expend lives--to
> >> >> achieve desired objectives.  Very simply, the people of the U.S. do
> >> >> not want to sacrifice the lives of its soldiers to stop ISIS or other
> >> >> incidents, regardless of the rhetoric of some politicians.
> >> >
> >> > That's really the bottom line.  The US could have economically sustained 
> >> > the occupation of Iran and Afghanistan indefinitely and the cost in 
> >> > American lives was on the same order of magnitude as policing the US, 
> >> > but the political will to stay there until the places were stable simply 
> >> > did not exist.  The same thing happened in Vietnam--the US had control 
> >> > of the country, briefly, and then pulled out before the government of 
> >> > South Vietnam was stable enough and well enough prepared to maintain 
> >> > that control.
> >> 
> >> As every American SHOULD know, you occupy a country,
> >> you face an endless supply of patriots willing to die
> >> to get you out of their country.
> >
> > You mean like Japan and Germany?
> 
> True, there.  If you really beat the hell out of a country
> and then help them recover, and not rule them, but instead
> assist, you can create an ally.  But you can't occupy and rule.
> 
> > Or Russia with Poland and 
> > Czechoslovakia and the rest?
> 
> Both countries resisted occupation, even after long
> occupation.

For certain values of "resist", which values were not high enough to 
remove them from the Soviet empire or prevent them from being productive 
members of same.
 
> > For that matter it wasn't the French who 
> > got Hitler out of France.
> 
> French resistance.

Which was exactly how effective?  And that was _with_ the assistance of 
the Allies.
 
> >> The US could have fought on, but would never win.
> >
> > Of course it would.  Just takes time--the "old guard" has to die off, 
> > while you use the education system and popular media to secularize the 
> > kids, and then after that bunch dies off you have a population that for 
> > the most part wonders why those quaint old fogies were killing people 
> > about religion.  At that point you have a stable society.
> 
> Hasn't worked very well.  India with the Brits,

Which ended in nonviolent resistance and there was never the disparity 
in available force between the Brits and India that exists between the 
US and the Middle East.

> Spain in South America, and on and on.

Yeah, lots and lots and lots of violent reistance in South America 
against Spain.  Right.  

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#157582

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-01-24 21:43 -0600
Message-ID<n845ff$8em$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157572
On 24-Jan-16 20:53, J. Clarke wrote:
> despen@verizon.net says...
>> Spain in South America, and on and on.
> 
> Yeah, lots and lots and lots of violent reistance in South America 
> against Spain.  Right.  

In the early 1800s, Spain's American colonies were in a near-constant
state of rebellion and civil war, which didn't end until Spain renounced
them in 1836.  It renounced its Caribbean colonies at the same time with
the exception of Cuba and Puerto Rico, which it lost to the US in 1898
along with Guam and the Philippines.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#157589

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-25 15:58 +1100
Message-ID<dglocgFoiq2U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157572

"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:MPG.310f583b1f273c6f989e92@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <n83n1g$1mi$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
>>
>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > In article <n83g8i$5ag$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
>> >>
>> >> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <ea653732-4ae8-4809-9b83-cab0325e1d0f@googlegroups.com>,
>> >> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 12:46:16 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Also, in Iraq, women have been raped by ISIS, and irreplaceable 
>> >> >> > historic
>> >> >> > monuments have been destroyed by it - one quite recently, in 
>> >> >> > fact. Again, the
>> >> >> > U.S. military was not capable of preventing this.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >The U.S. military will not be "underfunded" when bad things like 
>> >> >> >this stop
>> >> >> >happening in the world, and everyone enjoys peace and freedom.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Funding is only one part of the factors that go into "capability".
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There must also be a political will--a willingness to expend 
>> >> >> lives--to
>> >> >> achieve desired objectives.  Very simply, the people of the U.S. do
>> >> >> not want to sacrifice the lives of its soldiers to stop ISIS or 
>> >> >> other
>> >> >> incidents, regardless of the rhetoric of some politicians.
>> >> >
>> >> > That's really the bottom line.  The US could have economically 
>> >> > sustained
>> >> > the occupation of Iran and Afghanistan indefinitely and the cost in
>> >> > American lives was on the same order of magnitude as policing the 
>> >> > US,
>> >> > but the political will to stay there until the places were stable 
>> >> > simply
>> >> > did not exist.  The same thing happened in Vietnam--the US had 
>> >> > control
>> >> > of the country, briefly, and then pulled out before the government 
>> >> > of
>> >> > South Vietnam was stable enough and well enough prepared to maintain
>> >> > that control.
>> >>
>> >> As every American SHOULD know, you occupy a country,
>> >> you face an endless supply of patriots willing to die
>> >> to get you out of their country.
>> >
>> > You mean like Japan and Germany?
>>
>> True, there.  If you really beat the hell out of a country
>> and then help them recover, and not rule them, but instead
>> assist, you can create an ally.  But you can't occupy and rule.
>>
>> > Or Russia with Poland and
>> > Czechoslovakia and the rest?
>>
>> Both countries resisted occupation, even after long
>> occupation.
>
> For certain values of "resist", which values were not high enough to
> remove them from the Soviet empire

Got close with Hungary tho.

or prevent them from being productive
> members of same.
>
>> > For that matter it wasn't the French who
>> > got Hitler out of France.
>>
>> French resistance.
>
> Which was exactly how effective?  And that was _with_ the assistance of
> the Allies.
>
>> >> The US could have fought on, but would never win.
>> >
>> > Of course it would.  Just takes time--the "old guard" has to die off,
>> > while you use the education system and popular media to secularize the
>> > kids, and then after that bunch dies off you have a population that for
>> > the most part wonders why those quaint old fogies were killing people
>> > about religion.  At that point you have a stable society.
>>
>> Hasn't worked very well.  India with the Brits,
>
> Which ended in nonviolent resistance

But saw the Mutiny which was nothing even remotely like that.

> and there was never the disparity in available
> force between the Brits and India that exists
> between the US and the Middle East.

That mangles the real story utterly.

>> Spain in South America, and on and on.
>
> Yeah, lots and lots and lots of violent reistance in South America
> against Spain.  Right.

No stable society tho. 

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#157578

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-24 19:08 -0800
Message-ID<20fb41a1-e207-4447-8cc3-ac63785261b7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#157535
> Of course it would.  Just takes time--the "old guard" has to die off, 
> while you use the education system and popular media to secularize the 
> kids, and then after that bunch dies off you have a population that for 
> the most part wonders why those quaint old fogies were killing people 
> about religion.  At that point you have a stable society.

While in some cases old hatreds do die off (such as Southern hatred 
against blacks), in other cases, they just lie dormant and re-emerge
when the opportunity comes, such as in Yugoslavia.

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#157580

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-24 22:20 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.310f5e825710382989e96@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157578
In article <20fb41a1-e207-4447-8cc3-ac63785261b7@googlegroups.com>, 
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
> 
> > Of course it would.  Just takes time--the "old guard" has to die off, 
> > while you use the education system and popular media to secularize the 
> > kids, and then after that bunch dies off you have a population that for 
> > the most part wonders why those quaint old fogies were killing people 
> > about religion.  At that point you have a stable society.
> 
> While in some cases old hatreds do die off (such as Southern hatred 
> against blacks), in other cases, they just lie dormant and re-emerge
> when the opportunity comes, such as in Yugoslavia.

You have to be proactive and train them out of it, not just hope for the 
best.  

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#157593

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-25 16:11 +1100
Message-ID<dglp4tFonviU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157580

"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:MPG.310f5e825710382989e96@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <20fb41a1-e207-4447-8cc3-ac63785261b7@googlegroups.com>,
> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>>
>> > Of course it would.  Just takes time--the "old guard" has to die off,
>> > while you use the education system and popular media to secularize the
>> > kids, and then after that bunch dies off you have a population that for
>> > the most part wonders why those quaint old fogies were killing people
>> > about religion.  At that point you have a stable society.
>>
>> While in some cases old hatreds do die off (such as Southern hatred
>> against blacks), in other cases, they just lie dormant and re-emerge
>> when the opportunity comes, such as in Yugoslavia.
>
> You have to be proactive and train them out of it, not just hope for the 
> best.

That is what both Russia and China attempted. It doesn't work. 

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#157620

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2016-01-25 10:33 -0500
Message-ID<n85f2q$bok$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157578
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:

>> Of course it would.  Just takes time--the "old guard" has to die off, 
>> while you use the education system and popular media to secularize the 
>> kids, and then after that bunch dies off you have a population that for 
>> the most part wonders why those quaint old fogies were killing people 
>> about religion.  At that point you have a stable society.
>
> While in some cases old hatreds do die off (such as Southern hatred 
> against blacks), in other cases, they just lie dormant and re-emerge
> when the opportunity comes, such as in Yugoslavia.

The south shall rise again.
If such was even remotely feasible...

-- 
Dan Espen

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#157631

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-25 11:31 -0600
Message-ID<8umcab95vovflaknjhvn9btni10g6fo4gk@4ax.com>
In reply to#157578
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:08:08 -0800 (PST), hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>
>> Of course it would.  Just takes time--the "old guard" has to die off, 
>> while you use the education system and popular media to secularize the 
>> kids, and then after that bunch dies off you have a population that for 
>> the most part wonders why those quaint old fogies were killing people 
>> about religion.  At that point you have a stable society.
>
>While in some cases old hatreds do die off (such as Southern hatred 
>against blacks), in other cases, they just lie dormant and re-emerge
>when the opportunity comes, such as in Yugoslavia.

Hmm... I see racism in the South US still. It hasn't faded away.

-- 
JimP.

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#157652

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-01-25 13:53 -0600
Message-ID<n85u9o$g30$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157631
On 25-Jan-16 11:31, JimP wrote:
> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>> Of course it would.  Just takes time--the "old guard" has to die
>>> off, while you use the education system and popular media to
>>> secularize the kids, and then after that bunch dies off you have
>>> a population that for the most part wonders why those quaint old
>>> fogies were killing people about religion.  At that point you
>>> have a stable society.
>> 
>> While in some cases old hatreds do die off (such as Southern hatred
>>  against blacks), in other cases, they just lie dormant and
>> re-emerge when the opportunity comes, such as in Yugoslavia.
> 
> Hmm... I see racism in the South US still. It hasn't faded away.

Tribalism is basic human nature, so it will never go away--and anyone
who pretends otherwise is lying, possibly even to themselves.  Like
nationalism, racism is just a generalized form of tribalism.

The South is more open about its racism than the "enlightened" North and
West, but take a close look at where race riots happen, for instance,
and you'll see where the biggest problems are in practice.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#157681

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-25 18:26 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.31107943ca5bcb9989e9a@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157631
In article <8umcab95vovflaknjhvn9btni10g6fo4gk@4ax.com>, solosam90
@gmail.com says...
> 
> On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:08:08 -0800 (PST), hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> >
> >> Of course it would.  Just takes time--the "old guard" has to die off, 
> >> while you use the education system and popular media to secularize the 
> >> kids, and then after that bunch dies off you have a population that for 
> >> the most part wonders why those quaint old fogies were killing people 
> >> about religion.  At that point you have a stable society.
> >
> >While in some cases old hatreds do die off (such as Southern hatred 
> >against blacks), in other cases, they just lie dormant and re-emerge
> >when the opportunity comes, such as in Yugoslavia.
> 
> Hmm... I see racism in the South US still. It hasn't faded away.

There's racism in the North too.  And in Canada--look at Quadi.

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#157575

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-24 18:56 -0800
Message-ID<c40d04fa-af4e-4533-b492-e7805d625f11@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#157527
On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 4:41:14 PM UTC-5, D_J_E wrote:

> As every American SHOULD know, you occupy a country,
> you face an endless supply of patriots willing to die
> to get you out of their country.

That wasn't the case in Germany or Japan.


> The US could have fought on, but would never win.

I submit the US was accepted in those countries because it was clear
to the people that they were absolutely defeated (something that was
not done in WW I).  

I also submit the invasion of Iraq was prosecuted very badly, and the
occupation was horribly mismanaged.  Had the US sent over people who
understood the real situation in Iraq and dealt with it accordingly,
the occupation would've gone smoother.

In other posts we talked about the incompetence of MacArthur.  Whether
by luck or design, IMHO, he did a good job occupying Japan.  (Probably
because, in part, the Japanese needed someone to worship and MacArthur
needed to be worshiped).

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