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Thanks Obama

Started byDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
First post2016-01-18 10:35 -0500
Last post2016-01-24 10:08 +0000
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  Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-18 10:35 -0500
    Re: Thanks Obama Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-01-18 16:09 +0000
      Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-18 17:17 +0000
        Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-18 19:19 +0000
      Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-19 00:44 -0400
        Re: Thanks Obama Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-01-19 07:28 +0000
          Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 12:42 +0000
    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 11:18 -0500
      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 04:25 +1100
        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 13:56 -0500
          Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-18 13:08 -0600
            Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-18 12:00 -0800
              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 15:28 -0500
            Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-19 09:45 +0100
              Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 20:37 +1100
          Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 11:35 +1100
            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:39 -0500
              Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 07:22 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 06:42 -0500
          Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-18 18:55 -0600
            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:41 -0500
              Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-18 22:40 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 23:11 -0500
                  Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-18 23:26 -0500
                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 08:08 +0000
                  Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:56 -0600
                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:57 -0500
                      Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 21:32 -0600
                      Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-20 14:12 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 03:05 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 12:27 -0800
                    Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 12:55 -0800
              Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:06 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 06:48 -0500
                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 14:44 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 09:07 -0600
                      Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 06:43 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:49 -0500
                        Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 12:09 +0000
                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-20 15:21 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-20 16:24 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-20 17:04 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:09 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 05:44 +1100
                        Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-20 10:53 -0600
                          Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 11:22 -0600
                            Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 20:19 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:47 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 21:24 +0000
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:55 +1100
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-20 17:07 -0800
                                  Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 11:59 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 16:32 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-23 12:03 -0800
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-23 15:12 -0600
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-23 14:14 -0800
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-23 21:17 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-23 14:13 -0800
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 18:25 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 18:10 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 22:40 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:03 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:01 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 12:15 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 09:07 +1100
                            Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:54 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:20 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 19:47 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 13:27 +1100
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 12:09 +1100
                    Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 07:30 -0800
                      Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-19 12:22 -0500
                        Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 05:35 +1100
                        Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 10:59 -0800
                        Re: Thanks Obama Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-01-19 16:26 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 21:31 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 17:51 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 17:05 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:59 +1100
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 20:03 -0500
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:19 +1100
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:56 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 20:12 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:31 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:45 -0500
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 15:27 +1100
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:45 -0500
                                          Re: Thanks Obama "Sam James" <cf@nospam.com> - 2016-01-21 05:26 +1100
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:48 -0500
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-20 00:56 -0600
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:16 +1100
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:47 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:17 -0800
                              Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 16:43 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-21 05:28 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:26 +1100
                          Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:22 +1100
                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 20:09 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:23 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:39 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 14:44 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:36 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 07:00 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:17 +1100
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 08:08 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:18 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:56 -0500
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-21 07:51 +0000
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:36 +1100
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 14:53 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 04:28 +1100
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 18:56 +0000
                                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 07:44 +1100
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 06:59 -0500
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-21 08:16 -0500
                                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 15:58 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-21 16:37 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-21 10:47 -0600
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-23 15:33 -0600
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-23 17:22 -0500
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-23 15:30 -0800
                                              Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-24 11:05 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 05:21 +1100
                      Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 20:56 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 17:01 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 22:11 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 18:09 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 11:44 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:09 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 16:58 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 23:48 +0000
                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:34 -0800
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:06 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:55 -0600
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-22 03:38 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 15:00 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:17 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 13:45 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 22:03 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-27 14:00 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:23 -0600
                            Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 22:32 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 20:34 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 02:51 +0000
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:46 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:19 -0800
                          Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 17:42 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:42 -0800
                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:10 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:30 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 18:35 -0600
                            Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:31 -0800
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:05 +1100
                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:20 -0600
                          Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 22:23 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 12:31 -0800
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 08:59 +1100
                          Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 17:55 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-19 17:24 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:51 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 21:04 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 03:24 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 21:52 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 15:31 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 20:53 -0800
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 17:34 +1100
                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:58 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 13:15 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 19:39 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 20:09 -0600
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 13:30 +1100
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-21 02:29 +0000
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-27 13:39 -0600
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-27 15:12 -0500
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 18:18 -0500
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-28 00:30 +0100
                                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 21:45 -0500
                                                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 20:46 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 17:26 -0600
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 13:11 -0600
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-27 15:31 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 18:20 -0500
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 12:16 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-28 14:23 +0000
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-28 09:14 -0600
                                                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-28 15:34 +0000
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-28 20:11 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 12:27 -0600
                                              Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-28 12:52 -0600
                                                Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-28 14:10 -0600
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-28 20:19 +0000
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-29 09:57 +0100
                                                    Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-29 14:08 +0000
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-29 15:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 20:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 19:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama "Simmy Jacks" <sk98@nospam.com> - 2016-01-30 05:10 +1100
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-29 22:13 +0100
                                                          Re: Thanks Obama "Orange" <oq7755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:59 +1100
                                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 15:43 -0600
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 00:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 03:06 -0400
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama "Simmy Jacks" <sk98@nospam.com> - 2016-01-29 19:53 +1100
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-29 09:12 -0600
                                                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-29 18:36 +0000
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-29 09:48 +0000
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 07:32 -0500
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-29 07:48 -0800
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-29 13:40 -0600
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 17:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-29 22:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-29 17:40 -0600
                                                              Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 19:38 -0600
                                                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-29 18:14 -0800
                                                                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:47 -0500
                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:31 -0600
                                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 10:40 -0500
                                                                        Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 13:21 -0600
                                                                          Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-31 00:16 +0000
                                                                      Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 11:21 -0500
                                                                        Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 13:24 -0600
                                                                          Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 15:32 -0500
                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 15:29 -0600
                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 16:57 -0600
                                                                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 19:00 -0500
                                                                                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:43 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 16:22 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-31 19:30 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 21:56 -0600
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                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 18:25 -0400
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                                                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-30 11:08 +0000
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                                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-21 07:35 +0000
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                                      Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-24 22:11 -0600
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-24 23:17 -0600
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-27 18:14 +0000
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                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-28 13:15 -0800
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 18:43 -0500
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                                              Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-27 09:23 +1100
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 00:38 +0000
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                            Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 18:40 -0800
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                    Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 15:51 +0000
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                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:54 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-01-20 11:32 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 17:39 +0000
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                              Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-22 17:48 -0800
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                            Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:01 +0000
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                                    Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-25 02:15 +0000
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                                      Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-24 22:08 -0600
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                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-24 11:01 -0800
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                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-24 19:23 -0800
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                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 18:33 -0500
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 11:35 -0600
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-26 18:23 +0000
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                                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 13:44 -0800
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                                                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-27 16:58 -0800
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                                                                        Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-28 14:26 +0000
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                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-29 14:03 +0000
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                                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-01 21:24 +0000
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                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 16:27 -0600
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                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-27 16:04 +0000
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                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-26 16:36 -0600
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 19:03 -0500
                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-27 13:12 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-26 09:48 -0500
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-25 10:02 -0800
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                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-25 15:16 -0600
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                                                    Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-25 14:12 -0800
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                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-26 11:04 -0800
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 11:20 -0800
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 14:29 -0600
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-28 17:08 -0800
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                                                        Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 13:37 -0800
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-27 07:46 -0800
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-27 18:14 +0000
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#157178

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2016-01-20 18:17 +0000
Message-ID<20160120131110@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157169
On 2016-01-20, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
> No, they're not. Government gets its authority from the consent of the
> governed, either implicit or explicit.

Nonsense. Government gets its "authority" at the point of a gun. If
consent was involved it could be revoked. Try it and see what happens.

Elections are sugar coating, putting a thin and undeserved veneer of
legitimacy on a fundamentally illegitimate institution and its actions.

> That's not how it works.  By joining (or remaining in) a society, you
> agree to pay the costs of membership in order to get the benefits.

I disagree. Theft is "malum in se" regardless of who perpetrates it
under whatever imagined "authority."

> Instead, you want to remain and get all the benefits of membership but
> not pay the costs, which makes _you_ the thief.

Hardly. Those picking their neighbors' pockets by proxy are the thieves,
whether they hire private or public gangsters to do the dirty work. It
gets worse since they are permitted into the voting booth to expand
and continue such theft by proxy in perpetuity. (Or at least until the
volume of grabby non-producers expands to the point where the entire
system collapses.)

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#157192

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-01-20 13:45 -0600
Message-ID<n7onv3$m62$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157178
On 20-Jan-16 12:17, Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2016-01-20, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>> No, they're not. Government gets its authority from the consent of
>> the governed, either implicit or explicit.
> 
> Nonsense. Government gets its "authority" at the point of a gun. If 
> consent was involved it could be revoked. Try it and see what
> happens.

That's called a revolution; some succeed, some fail.

Note that the third US presidential election--and inauguration--was
closely watched by people from all over the world, who then hailed it as
the world's first "bloodless revolution".  Many of them went on to
foment democracies in their own countries.

Unfortunately, many US politicians turned to _suppressing_ democratic
govts and revolutions (bloodless or otherwise), both abroad and at home,
to protect the divine right of capitalists.

> Elections are sugar coating, putting a thin and undeserved veneer of 
> legitimacy on a fundamentally illegitimate institution and its
> actions.

You believe all govt is fundamentally illegitimate?  What do you propose
to replace it with, and how would it not be a govt itself?

>> That's not how it works.  By joining (or remaining in) a society,
>> you agree to pay the costs of membership in order to get the
>> benefits.
> 
> I disagree. Theft is "malum in se" regardless of who perpetrates it 
> under whatever imagined "authority."

Saying that you must pay something to get something isn't theft; your
desire to take it without paying is.

S

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CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#157211

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2016-01-20 22:03 +0000
Message-ID<20160120164921@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157192
On 2016-01-20, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
> You believe all govt is fundamentally illegitimate?  What do you propose
> to replace it with, and how would it not be a govt itself?

No matter how much you try to sugar coat it and pretty it up, government
in its essence is based on violence and coercion. Those are just the
facts. So yes, unless you believe that human interactions should be
government by violence, the State is an illegitimate instution on its
face.

*If* government is essential it is extremely dangerous and needs to be
controlled and limited. The comparison with fire is an apt one. The U.S.
Constitution has unfortunately proven not up to the task. (Some believe
that this was the intent.)

> Saying that you must pay something to get something isn't theft; your
> desire to take it without paying is.

When you are forced to participate and have funds extracted from you by
threat of violence by a gang that keeps part for itself and disseminates
the rest to whomever it pleases, that certainly is theft. There is
no difference between the Democrats and Republicans doing it versus the
Crips and the Bloods doing it.

If you don't have the right to commit violence against another person,
how can you possibly delegate that power and authority, which you don't
have, to the State? If you don't have the right to force your neigbors
to support you, how can you delegate a power you don't have to others?

  http://www.activistpost.com/2015/12/watch-politicians-snap-when-alternative-media-journalist-asks-them-one-short-question.html

BTW, you keep taking about my alleged "desire" to "take without
paying." Please show me where I expressed a desire to take "benefits"
without paying for them. I made no such statement.

In the case of Social Security, not only are you forced at gunpoint to
participate, you don't even have a claim on any of the proceeds as the
Supreme Court correctly observed. The laughably-misnamed "contributions"
are a flat income tax and the disbursements are a welfare program
distributed at the pleasure of Congress.

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#157952

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-01-27 14:00 -0600
Message-ID<n8b7eu$mp4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157211
On 20-Jan-16 16:03, Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2016-01-20, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>> You believe all govt is fundamentally illegitimate?  What do you
>> propose to replace it with, and how would it not be a govt itself?
> 
> No matter how much you try to sugar coat it and pretty it up,
> government in its essence is based on violence and coercion.

Societies institute governments to enforce their rules, by violence and
coercion if (and, in most cases, only if) necessary.

> Those are just the facts. So yes, unless you believe that human
> interactions should be government by violence, the State is an
> illegitimate instution on its face.

The threat of violence by the govt is what _prevents_ its members'
interactions from being governed by violence.

Take away that threat and anarchy is inevitable, e.g. Somalia.

> *If* government is essential it is extremely dangerous and needs to
> be controlled and limited. The comparison with fire is an apt one.

Now we're getting somewhere.

> The U.S. Constitution has unfortunately proven not up to the task.
> (Some believe that this was the intent.)

Modern society has a different idea of where the limits should be.

>> Saying that you must pay something to get something isn't theft;
>> your desire to take it without paying is.
> 
> When you are forced to participate

You are not forced to participate; you are welcome to leave.

> BTW, you keep taking about my alleged "desire" to "take without 
> paying." Please show me where I expressed a desire to take
> "benefits" without paying for them. I made no such statement.

You've been collecting the benefits of living in a civil society since
before you were even born.  You just don't want to pay for them.

You'd've had a decent case against paying if you left shortly after
turning 18 since your prior participation wasn't voluntary, but by
staying, you implicitly agreed to follow society's rules--and one of
them is paying your share of the cost of having that society.

S

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CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
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#157215

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
Message-ID<1989382456.475019737.384845.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157178
Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote:
> On 2016-01-20, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>> No, they're not. Government gets its authority from the consent of the
>> governed, either implicit or explicit.
> 
> Nonsense. Government gets its "authority" at the point of a gun. If
> consent was involved it could be revoked. Try it and see what happens.
> 
> Elections are sugar coating, putting a thin and undeserved veneer of
> legitimacy on a fundamentally illegitimate institution and its actions.

No, what the elections do is cause people to say "but that's what the
majority of people wanted."  I suspect that without this, and without the
expectation that this can be overturned in a few years, there would have
been revolts against most of our recent presidents.

> 
>> That's not how it works.  By joining (or remaining in) a society, you
>> agree to pay the costs of membership in order to get the benefits.
> 
> I disagree. Theft is "malum in se" regardless of who perpetrates it
> under whatever imagined "authority."
> 
>> Instead, you want to remain and get all the benefits of membership but
>> not pay the costs, which makes _you_ the thief.
> 
> Hardly. Those picking their neighbors' pockets by proxy are the thieves,
> whether they hire private or public gangsters to do the dirty work. It
> gets worse since they are permitted into the voting booth to expand
> and continue such theft by proxy in perpetuity. (Or at least until the
> volume of grabby non-producers expands to the point where the entire
> system collapses.)
> 



-- 
Pete

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#157061

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-01-19 16:23 -0600
Message-ID<n7mcrv$r1e$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157056
On 19-Jan-16 16:01, Dan Espen wrote:
> Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> writes:
>> The obvious places to cut are the immense social programs. Most of 
>> the budget is taken up with Social Security and Medicare, not the 
>> military. There should be NO federal social programs.
> 
> You're one of those guys that cheered at the Ron Paul "let them die"
> comment.

Actually, the moderator asked if we should let millions of poor people
die, and the crowd cheered.  Ron Paul said no, and the crowd booed--and
his campaign for the GOP nomination was over.

S

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#157063

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2016-01-19 22:32 +0000
Message-ID<20160119173321@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157061
On 2016-01-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
> Actually, the moderator asked if we should let millions of poor people
> die, and the crowd cheered.  Ron Paul said no, and the crowd booed--and
> his campaign for the GOP nomination was over.

Charity is up to individuals. It should not be forced at gunpoint.

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#157101

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-01-19 20:34 -0600
Message-ID<n7mrii$8gb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157063
On 19-Jan-16 16:32, Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2016-01-19, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
>> Actually, the moderator asked if we should let millions of poor
>> people die, and the crowd cheered.  Ron Paul said no, and the crowd
>> booed--and his campaign for the GOP nomination was over.
> 
> Charity is up to individuals. It should not be forced at gunpoint.

The crowd wasn't cheering for charity but rather for people dying.

S

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K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#157106

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2016-01-20 02:51 +0000
Message-ID<20160119213718@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157101
On 2016-01-20, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
> The crowd wasn't cheering for charity but rather for people dying.

If so, what of it?  If you on the other hand support expansion of
government power you are in favor of further empowering the most vicious,
murderous institution ever devised. Murder of innocents on a mass scale
is government's stock in trade, yet many here revere it and wish to
expand its reach and power. We're talking real death and destruction,
not hypotheticals.

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#157114

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-19 22:46 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.3108cd3684c8719b989e5a@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157106
In article <20160119213718@news.eternal-september.org>, 
rogblake@iname.invalid says...
> 
> On 2016-01-20, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote:
> > The crowd wasn't cheering for charity but rather for people dying.
> 
> If so, what of it?  If you on the other hand support expansion of
> government power you are in favor of further empowering the most vicious,
> murderous institution ever devised. Murder of innocents on a mass scale
> is government's stock in trade, yet many here revere it and wish to
> expand its reach and power. We're talking real death and destruction,
> not hypotheticals.

Roger, do wipe the foam off your mouth. I am no fan of big government 
but you are making conservatism look ridiculous.

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#157313

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-21 13:19 -0800
Message-ID<1360dfb1-cbf9-4c8b-9a3c-af034f28ff04@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#157106
On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 9:54:34 PM UTC-5, Roger Blake wrote:

> If so, what of it?  If you on the other hand support expansion of
> government power you are in favor of further empowering the most vicious,
> murderous institution ever devised. Murder of innocents on a mass scale
> is government's stock in trade, yet many here revere it and wish to
> expand its reach and power. We're talking real death and destruction,
> not hypotheticals.

We know all about the robber barons of 1900, how the steel, railroad,
oil, and other tycoons treated the defenseless workers.

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#157201

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
Message-ID<1937611149.475003357.321255.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157056
Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> writes:
> 
>> On 2016-01-19, James Green <667755@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> In the US the obvious place to cut is the immense military budget.
>> 
>> The obvious places to cut are the immense social programs. Most of
>> the budget is taken up with Social Security and Medicare, not the
>> military. There should be NO federal social programs.
> 
> You're one of those guys that cheered at the Ron Paul
> "let them die" comment.
> 
> I think you would change your mind when confronted with
> the reality but there are some roads we should not go
> down for the learning experience.
> 

People don't just curl up and die.  Think about the Great Depression before
the New Deal.  Most people managed to survive.  Churches and social
organizations doled out food and the men or whole families moved in search
of work.  No one thought they should be entitled to anything.

-- 
Pete

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#157236

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-01-20 17:42 -0600
Message-ID<n7p5sb$fs1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157201
On 20-Jan-16 15:29, Peter Flass wrote:
> Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> You're one of those guys that cheered at the Ron Paul "let them
>> die" comment.
>> 
>> I think you would change your mind when confronted with the reality
>> but there are some roads we should not go down for the learning
>> experience.
> 
> People don't just curl up and die.  Think about the Great Depression
> before the New Deal.  Most people managed to survive.  Churches and
> social organizations doled out food and the men or whole families
> moved in search of work.  No one thought they should be entitled to
> anything.

No, but the vast majority were happy to take assistance from whatever
source it came--and afterward felt a moral obligation to offer the same
assistance to others in return.

Also, charities _weren't_ sufficient to feed the hungry; they couldn't
have because there wasn't enough food being harvested.  During the
Industrial Revolution, millions of farmers moved to the cities to get
factory jobs, millions more lost their farms due to land speculation
during the Roaring Twenties, and after the Crash, the few left were
suddenly without a market to sell their crops to, so they cut back to
growing only what they needed to feed themselves.

It took govt action to solve this gridlock, primarily by issuing food
stamps to the public.  Farmers started making food again to collect
these stamps, which they redeemed them to buy idle farms around them,
and production quickly ramped back up to normal levels.

When the public saw how well that worked, i.e. they were no longer
starving to death, they welcomed govt assistance in other areas, some of
which turned out to be a good idea and some not.

Also, keep in mind that most of those former farmers were armed, and
starving people with guns is a recipe for revolution--and in that era,
it would've been a communist one.  Regardless of one's opinion of the
New Deal and its legacy, it was clearly better than that alternative.

S

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#157316

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-21 13:42 -0800
Message-ID<23cd6a70-51a6-46bc-a25c-acf2f744cf55@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#157236
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-5, Stephen Sprunk wrote:

> Also, charities _weren't_ sufficient to feed the hungry; they couldn't
> have because there wasn't enough food being harvested.  During the
> Industrial Revolution, millions of farmers moved to the cities to get
> factory jobs, millions more lost their farms due to land speculation
> during the Roaring Twenties, and after the Crash, the few left were
> suddenly without a market to sell their crops to, so they cut back to
> growing only what they needed to feed themselves.
> 
> It took govt action to solve this gridlock, primarily by issuing food
> stamps to the public.  Farmers started making food again to collect
> these stamps, which they redeemed them to buy idle farms around them,
> and production quickly ramped back up to normal levels.

IIRC, I think there was actually a surplus of food, driving the
price way down.  the government began to pay farmers _not_ to
grow certain foods to cut back on the surplus and raise farm
income.  Back then, the farm lobby was extremely powerful.

(Later those subsidies were criticized as being unnecessary, with
the depression long over.)

The farm lobby built up quite a romance of farming, but I think
in reality a lot of farmers were incompetent and wasteful.  One
thing the govt tried to do was set up county agents to help
educate farmers on better methods to be more efficient.

Fast forward to today:  I'm troubled by the fact that we're now
importing a lot of food instead of growing it domestically.  Further,
I understand they're cutting down the Amazon forest for farming, which
isn't good.


> When the public saw how well that worked, i.e. they were no longer
> starving to death, they welcomed govt assistance in other areas, some of
> which turned out to be a good idea and some not.

Much of which was pushed by lobbyists, who wanted a piece of the
pie for their areas.  By the way, computing was a big beneficiary
of that, as the government paid for R&D of new hardware and software
technologies, mostly for defense projects.




 
> Also, keep in mind that most of those former farmers were armed, and
> starving people with guns is a recipe for revolution--and in that era,
> it would've been a communist one.  Regardless of one's opinion of the
> New Deal and its legacy, it was clearly better than that alternative.

So true.

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#157321

From"James Green" <667755@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-22 09:10 +1100
Message-ID<dgd39vFiks7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157316

<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
news:23cd6a70-51a6-46bc-a25c-acf2f744cf55@googlegroups.com...
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-5, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>
>> Also, charities _weren't_ sufficient to feed the hungry; they couldn't
>> have because there wasn't enough food being harvested.  During the
>> Industrial Revolution, millions of farmers moved to the cities to get
>> factory jobs, millions more lost their farms due to land speculation
>> during the Roaring Twenties, and after the Crash, the few left were
>> suddenly without a market to sell their crops to, so they cut back to
>> growing only what they needed to feed themselves.
>>
>> It took govt action to solve this gridlock, primarily by issuing food
>> stamps to the public.  Farmers started making food again to collect
>> these stamps, which they redeemed them to buy idle farms around them,
>> and production quickly ramped back up to normal levels.
>
> IIRC, I think there was actually a surplus of food, driving the
> price way down.  the government began to pay farmers _not_ to
> grow certain foods to cut back on the surplus and raise farm
> income.  Back then, the farm lobby was extremely powerful.
>
> (Later those subsidies were criticized as being unnecessary, with
> the depression long over.)
>
> The farm lobby built up quite a romance of farming, but I think
> in reality a lot of farmers were incompetent and wasteful.  One
> thing the govt tried to do was set up county agents to help
> educate farmers on better methods to be more efficient.
>
> Fast forward to today:  I'm troubled by the fact that we're now
> importing a lot of food instead of growing it domestically.

That is just the inevitable result of some places being able to
grow some food more efficiently than the US can, particularly
food that has a high labor input at harvest time even now.

> Further, I understand they're cutting down the
> Amazon forest for farming, which isn't good.

Sure, but they feel the same way about importing food as you do.

>> When the public saw how well that worked, i.e. they were no longer
>> starving to death, they welcomed govt assistance in other areas, some of
>> which turned out to be a good idea and some not.
>
> Much of which was pushed by lobbyists, who wanted a piece of the
> pie for their areas.  By the way, computing was a big beneficiary
> of that, as the government paid for R&D of new hardware and software
> technologies, mostly for defense projects.
>
>
>
>
>
>> Also, keep in mind that most of those former farmers were armed, and
>> starving people with guns is a recipe for revolution--and in that era,
>> it would've been a communist one.  Regardless of one's opinion of the
>> New Deal and its legacy, it was clearly better than that alternative.
>
> So true.
> 

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#157335

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-21 19:30 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.310b422a3ac3ed50989e77@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157316
In article <23cd6a70-51a6-46bc-a25c-acf2f744cf55@googlegroups.com>, 
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
> 
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 6:42:42 PM UTC-5, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> 
> > Also, charities _weren't_ sufficient to feed the hungry; they couldn't
> > have because there wasn't enough food being harvested.  During the
> > Industrial Revolution, millions of farmers moved to the cities to get
> > factory jobs, millions more lost their farms due to land speculation
> > during the Roaring Twenties, and after the Crash, the few left were
> > suddenly without a market to sell their crops to, so they cut back to
> > growing only what they needed to feed themselves.
> > 
> > It took govt action to solve this gridlock, primarily by issuing food
> > stamps to the public.  Farmers started making food again to collect
> > these stamps, which they redeemed them to buy idle farms around them,
> > and production quickly ramped back up to normal levels.
> 
> IIRC, I think there was actually a surplus of food, driving the
> price way down.  the government began to pay farmers _not_ to
> grow certain foods to cut back on the surplus and raise farm
> income.  Back then, the farm lobby was extremely powerful.
> 
> (Later those subsidies were criticized as being unnecessary, with
> the depression long over.)
> 
> The farm lobby built up quite a romance of farming, but I think
> in reality a lot of farmers were incompetent and wasteful.  One
> thing the govt tried to do was set up county agents to help
> educate farmers on better methods to be more efficient.
> 
> Fast forward to today:  I'm troubled by the fact that we're now
> importing a lot of food instead of growing it domestically.  Further,
> I understand they're cutting down the Amazon forest for farming, which
> isn't good.

We're also exporting a lot.  Remember there's stuff that just plain 
won't grow in the US or if it does, grows poorly--bananans and coffee 
are two examples.  As of 2013 the US was a net exporter of food.  Don't 
know if that's changed.

As for the Amazon forest, unless things have changed, that's small 
farmers who clear a space, farm it until the soil's exhausted, then 
clear another one.
 
> > When the public saw how well that worked, i.e. they were no longer
> > starving to death, they welcomed govt assistance in other areas, some of
> > which turned out to be a good idea and some not.
> 
> Much of which was pushed by lobbyists, who wanted a piece of the
> pie for their areas.  By the way, computing was a big beneficiary
> of that, as the government paid for R&D of new hardware and software
> technologies, mostly for defense projects.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> > Also, keep in mind that most of those former farmers were armed, and
> > starving people with guns is a recipe for revolution--and in that era,
> > it would've been a communist one.  Regardless of one's opinion of the
> > New Deal and its legacy, it was clearly better than that alternative.
> 
> So true.

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#157336

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-01-21 18:35 -0600
Message-ID<n7rtai$rj3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157316
On 21-Jan-16 15:42, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>> Also, charities _weren't_ sufficient to feed the hungry; they
>> couldn't have because there wasn't enough food being harvested.
>> During the Industrial Revolution, millions of farmers moved to the
>> cities to get factory jobs, millions more lost their farms due to
>> land speculation during the Roaring Twenties, and after the Crash,
>> the few left were suddenly without a market to sell their crops to,
>> so they cut back to growing only what they needed to feed
>> themselves.
> 
> IIRC, I think there was actually a surplus of food, driving the price
> way down.

Low prices would have solved themselves--and people wouldn't have been
starving in the streets because they couldn't afford any.

> the government began to pay farmers _not_ to grow certain
> foods to cut back on the surplus and raise farm income.

No, that happened much later.

> The farm lobby built up quite a romance of farming, but I think in
> reality a lot of farmers were incompetent and wasteful.  One thing
> the govt tried to do was set up county agents to help educate farmers
> on better methods to be more efficient.

Yes, education (and industrialization) was a big part of how farmers
were able to ramp production back up despite being far fewer in number.
 Also, incompetent and wasteful ones were first to go bankrupt, so only
competent and efficient ones were left when food stamps came along, and
they had to get even better to work ten times as much land as before.

> Fast forward to today:  I'm troubled by the fact that we're now 
> importing a lot of food instead of growing it domestically.

Mostly, that's because we now expect everything available year-round,
which means importing things when they're out of season here.

> Further, I understand they're cutting down the Amazon forest for
> farming, which isn't good.

Indeed.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#157314

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-21 13:31 -0800
Message-ID<eeaf09f0-ee79-4c07-845d-50e866e5e69e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#157201
On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 4:29:57 PM UTC-5, Peter Flass wrote:

> People don't just curl up and die.  Think about the Great Depression before
> the New Deal.  Most people managed to survive.  Churches and social
> organizations doled out food and the men or whole families moved in search
> of work.  No one thought they should be entitled to anything.

Lots of people did die from lack of food, shelter, or medical
care in the Depression.  No, there wasn't piles of bodies in the
streets, but the deaths were still there.

Far more people were malnourished and had subsequent health
problems.  The military found many of its recurits in poor
physical condition as a result of being malnourished.

Churches and social organizations were totally overwhelmed by the
demand for food.

Lots of people most certainly did not want a handout, but they did
want a job that was enough to sustain their family, and such jobs
simply weren't available.

Perhaps people didn't feel entitled, but they began to get
quite resentful that they couldn't get a job, any job, to 
support their families.  If it wasn't for the New Deal,
that anger would've led to revolution.

(Not that the New Deal ended the Depression or materially
eased suffering.  But it was a help, and more importantly,
it gave people a sense that someone did give a damn about
their plight.)

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#157319

From"James Green" <667755@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-22 09:05 +1100
Message-ID<dgd30oFiiibU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157314

<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
news:eeaf09f0-ee79-4c07-845d-50e866e5e69e@googlegroups.com...
> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 4:29:57 PM UTC-5, Peter Flass wrote:
>
>> People don't just curl up and die.  Think about the Great Depression 
>> before
>> the New Deal.  Most people managed to survive.  Churches and social
>> organizations doled out food and the men or whole families moved in 
>> search
>> of work.  No one thought they should be entitled to anything.
>
> Lots of people did die from lack of food, shelter, or medical
> care in the Depression.  No, there wasn't piles of bodies in the
> streets, but the deaths were still there.
>
> Far more people were malnourished and had subsequent health
> problems.  The military found many of its recurits in poor
> physical condition as a result of being malnourished.
>
> Churches and social organizations were totally overwhelmed by the
> demand for food.
>
> Lots of people most certainly did not want a handout, but they did
> want a job that was enough to sustain their family, and such jobs
> simply weren't available.
>
> Perhaps people didn't feel entitled, but they began to get
> quite resentful that they couldn't get a job, any job, to
> support their families.  If it wasn't for the New Deal,
> that anger would've led to revolution.

It didn't in Britain which had no New Deal or anything like it.

> (Not that the New Deal ended the Depression or materially
> eased suffering.  But it was a help, and more importantly,
> it gave people a sense that someone did give a damn about
> their plight.) 

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#157059

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2016-01-19 16:20 -0600
Message-ID<n7mcm6$r1e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157044
On 19-Jan-16 14:56, Roger Blake wrote:
> On 2016-01-19, James Green <667755@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In the US the obvious place to cut is the immense military budget.
> 
> The obvious places to cut are the immense social programs.  Most of
> the budget is taken up with Social Security and Medicare, not the
> military.

Social Security and Medicare are funded by workers paying for their own
future benefits and segregated from the rest of the federal budget.

The military is _by far_ the next biggest chunk of federal spending;
other social programs are negligible, and even completely eliminating
them all would not materially affect the budget (or the deficit).

It's not even like that spending is going somewhere useful; we spent
billions on planes and tanks that go straight from the factory to the
scrapyard, for instance, and billions more that go straight into the
pockets of defense contractors who them promptly "lose" it.

> There should be NO federal social programs.

The reason we _have_ federal social programs is states are unwilling to
provide their own.  Like most liberals, I'm open to alternatives, but
the neocons' "repeal and replace" plans are all about the "repeal" and
never actually get around to the "replace" part, which means they're
really just about screwing the poor to benefit the rich--as usual.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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