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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

Started byhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
First post2016-01-12 18:53 -0800
Last post2016-01-14 14:02 +0000
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  Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-12 18:53 -0800
    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-13 16:32 -0500
      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-13 13:40 -0800
        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2016-01-13 17:04 -0500
        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-13 17:11 -0500
        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-13 16:10 -0600
          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-13 14:23 -0800
            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-13 18:52 -0500
              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-13 17:20 -0800
                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 08:03 -0500
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-14 14:20 -0800
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-17 03:37 -0600
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:07 -0500
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 15:11 +0000
                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-14 14:12 +0000
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-01-14 08:27 -0700
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-14 14:26 -0800
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2016-01-16 16:21 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-16 14:59 -0800
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-15 14:51 +0000
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-15 16:50 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-15 17:53 +0000
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-15 19:38 +0100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-15 11:15 -0800
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-15 15:52 -0500
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-15 14:00 -0800
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-17 03:53 -0600
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-17 12:03 +0000
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 09:22 -0500
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-15 11:11 -0800
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-16 14:09 +0000
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-16 08:41 -0800
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-16 09:10 -0800
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 07:46 +1100
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 20:04 -0500
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-16 19:18 -0800
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 23:34 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:15 -0800
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 15:33 +1100
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-16 22:51 -0600
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 16:15 +1100
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-16 22:31 -0800
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-17 14:03 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 05:03 +1100
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:24 -0800
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 15:49 -0600
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-19 13:59 -0800
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:31 +1100
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:50 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-19 17:46 -0800
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:36 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:36 -0500
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-19 19:46 -0800
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:20 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-20 10:09 -0800
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 13:27 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-20 10:11 -0800
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 05:56 +1100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:35 -0500
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 10:35 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:45 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:13 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:34 -0800
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:40 -0600
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:33 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:27 -0800
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:36 -0600
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:08 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 12:29 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-22 10:56 -0800
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-22 19:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-22 11:22 -0800
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-22 20:00 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-22 12:43 -0800
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 09:07 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-22 14:24 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 09:11 -0600
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-23 11:27 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 11:14 -0600
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 17:22 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 18:47 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-20 14:04 +0000
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:38 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-21 14:12 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 18:15 -0500
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:47 +1100
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 11:54 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:52 -0800
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 11:29 -0600
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:39 -0600
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 14:46 +0000
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-23 17:14 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-23 18:50 -0800
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-24 04:25 +1100
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 14:44 +0000
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-23 16:54 +0000
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-23 15:01 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-24 07:45 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-24 15:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 10:43 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-24 11:21 -0800
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-24 11:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-24 20:23 +0000
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-26 14:21 +0100
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Orange" <oq7755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 04:33 +1100
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-25 04:55 +1100
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-24 07:34 +1100
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-24 04:19 +1100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-16 16:46 -0800
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:45 +1100
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-16 15:32 -0500
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-16 20:57 +0000
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 09:54 +1100
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 20:08 -0500
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 13:57 +1100
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 23:33 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 16:09 +1100
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 00:40 -0500
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 17:40 +1100
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-17 07:19 +0000
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 19:18 +1100
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:40 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-17 14:12 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:59 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 05:19 +1100
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-24 19:41 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-25 13:09 +1100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-25 14:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 11:22 -0600
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-25 16:04 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-26 09:55 +1100
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-25 19:41 -0600
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-25 19:46 -0800
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-25 20:31 -0800
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 06:42 -0500
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 11:39 -0600
                                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 19:23 -0500
                                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 21:42 -0600
                                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-27 08:27 +0000
                                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 06:19 -0500
                                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-28 15:56 -0600
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 17:43 -0800
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-26 16:05 +1100
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 19:40 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 14:19 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-17 19:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 19:27 -0500
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-17 23:45 -0500
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 00:54 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:02 +1100
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:30 -0600
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 18:17 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 19:24 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-17 08:18 -0600
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:21 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:45 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:34 -0800
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 18:51 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-20 14:12 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-01-20 17:13 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-21 14:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:11 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:40 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-21 14:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:10 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 11:41 -0600
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-01-21 20:35 +0000
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:49 -0600
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:41 -0600
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 10:40 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-01-21 20:37 +0000
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-21 16:02 -0600
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 18:42 -0600
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 13:29 +1100
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2016-01-22 21:09 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-21 16:04 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-22 13:55 +0000
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:16 -0800
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 18:34 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:36 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-17 12:14 +0000
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:49 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:57 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:19 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 09:22 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-17 15:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 12:02 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 05:24 +1100
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 18:13 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 10:35 +1100
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-18 12:33 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 08:53 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-19 13:37 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:32 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 11:41 +1100
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 19:56 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 21:12 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-19 00:07 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 14:06 +1100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-19 07:36 -0500
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-19 13:37 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-19 15:47 -0500
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:32 -0600
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 14:11 +1100
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:15 +0100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 20:41 +1100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 07:03 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 10:34 -0600
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 07:59 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 10:19 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:16 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 06:21 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-20 11:41 +0000
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 12:07 +0000
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 04:53 +1100
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 20:16 +0000
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:46 +1100
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-20 15:01 -0600
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:17 +1100
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 17:29 -0600
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 21:22 +0000
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:52 +1100
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 11:46 +0000
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:02 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 10:33 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-19 14:24 +0000
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 12:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 05:23 +1100
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:37 +1100
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 09:22 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:34 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:34 +1100
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-17 11:42 +0000
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:54 -0500
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 07:09 -0500
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 07:26 -0500
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:52 +1100
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-17 14:08 +0000
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-17 15:50 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:58 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-17 19:08 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 19:26 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-17 19:08 -0600
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:33 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 10:32 -0600
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-21 17:41 -0800
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-22 03:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-22 17:34 -0800
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-23 05:06 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-23 15:29 -0800
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-25 02:15 +0000
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:20 -0800
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-18 08:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-18 10:22 +0100
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-18 09:58 +0000
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 07:45 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:38 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:59 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 11:42 +1100
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 20:37 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 14:20 +1100
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 07:45 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 04:18 +1100
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-18 18:51 +0100
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-19 00:41 -0400
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-18 23:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-19 07:36 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-19 14:27 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 14:38 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-19 18:33 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 16:28 -0500
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-19 13:57 -0800
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-19 16:46 -0600
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-21 17:50 -0800
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 21:43 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:53 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-19 22:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 17:35 -0600
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-21 07:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:26 -0800
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 11:31 -0600
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 18:52 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:36 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-19 19:27 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:59 -0800
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 17:54 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:01 -0800
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 11:49 -0600
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 11:01 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-19 11:19 -0600
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:30 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:32 -0800
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-18 19:06 -0600
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:39 -0600
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:57 -0500
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:02 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 15:40 +1100
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 15:55 +1100
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 15:57 +1100
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-24 19:37 -0600
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-25 13:05 +1100
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 21:59 -0500
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-16 22:57 -0600
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 16:17 +1100
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:27 -0800
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-01-19 23:24 +0000
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:43 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:10 -0800
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-17 08:15 +0000
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:42 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-17 15:40 +0000
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:24 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:36 -0800
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-19 20:47 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-19 16:28 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-20 08:18 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:21 -0600
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 15:08 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 11:15 -0500
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 17:44 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 19:08 -0600
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-16 17:07 -0500
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 09:56 +1100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-16 16:30 -0800
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-17 15:26 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 05:13 +1100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-19 13:36 -0600
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-19 13:37 -0600
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 14:35 -0600
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2016-01-21 17:05 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-21 12:18 -0500
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:35 -0600
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-22 13:55 +0000
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-15 17:26 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-15 22:20 +0000
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-16 10:42 +0000
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 06:04 -0500
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-16 11:39 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 07:23 -0500
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-16 13:09 +0100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 03:41 +1100
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-14 11:02 -0800
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 11:56 -0800
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 18:57 -0500
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 16:08 -0800
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 18:03 -0800
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:41 -0500
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-15 14:51 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-01-15 15:43 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-16 14:09 +0000
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-15 15:06 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 17:53 -0500
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-15 07:04 +0000
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-15 19:29 +1100
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:43 -0500
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-15 15:52 -0500
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2016-01-14 16:00 -0900
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-15 15:05 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:04 -0600
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 21:17 -0500
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 07:57 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-24 19:53 -0600
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-15 15:01 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 17:53 -0500
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-14 21:17 +0000
              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-13 18:08 -0800
                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-13 21:25 -0500
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 07:31 -0800
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-14 18:46 +0100
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 10:43 -0800
                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-24 20:00 -0600
              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-14 00:31 -0800
            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-17 03:30 -0600
      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-14 01:35 +0000
      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-14 14:02 +0000

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#157430

From"kipg" <io@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-24 07:45 +1100
Message-ID<dgi744FrqugU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157423

"Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:519175334.475271428.207126.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org...
> <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-01-23, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
>>>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
>>>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
>>>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
>>>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
>>>> took him out.
>>>
>>> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. He
>>> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.
>>
>> Thats Russian politics.
>> Anyone have problems with that?
>> There  was a story that at the end, he started to be suspicious of
>> his doctors, wwho happened to be Jewish. Whatever about being Jewish,
>> not trusting your doctors is not a long term health idea.
>>
>>
>
> I'm hoping Putin will be "retired" soon,

He's not the retiring type. He retires others, often by killing them.

although his successor could
> always be worse.

There is no successor. 

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#157489

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-01-24 15:07 +0000
Message-ID<PM00052A15DC59EC01@aca411d3.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#157423
Peter Flass wrote:
> <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-01-23, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
>>>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
>>>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
>>>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
>>>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
>>>> took him out.
>>>
>>> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. He
>>> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.
>>
>> Thats Russian politics.
>> Anyone have problems with that?
>> There  was a story that at the end, he started to be suspicious of
>> his doctors, wwho happened to be Jewish. Whatever about being Jewish,
>> not trusting your doctors is not a long term health idea.
>>
>>
>
> I'm hoping Putin will be "retired" soon, although his successor could
> always be worse.
>
Did the structure of Russian government change?  If it hasn't, Putin is
subject to the Politburo's decisions and policies, right?

/BHA

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#157490

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-24 10:43 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.310ebb26b99f8b9b989e88@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157489
In article <PM00052A15DC59EC01@aca411d3.ipt.aol.com>, See.above@aol.com 
says...
> 
> Peter Flass wrote:
> > <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2016-01-23, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> >>> {snip}
> >>>
> >>>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
> >>>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
> >>>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
> >>>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
> >>>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
> >>>> took him out.
> >>>
> >>> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. He
> >>> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.
> >>
> >> Thats Russian politics.
> >> Anyone have problems with that?
> >> There  was a story that at the end, he started to be suspicious of
> >> his doctors, wwho happened to be Jewish. Whatever about being Jewish,
> >> not trusting your doctors is not a long term health idea.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I'm hoping Putin will be "retired" soon, although his successor could
> > always be worse.
> >
> Did the structure of Russian government change?  If it hasn't, Putin is
> subject to the Politburo's decisions and policies, right?

The Poliburo was the governing body of hte Communist Party, which, with 
fewer than a quarter of the seats in the legislature, is no longer in 
power.  He is to some extent subject to the legislature but I'm not at 
all clear on how much power he really has, I suspect that he is still 
finding that out himself.

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#157512

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-01-24 11:21 -0800
Message-ID<87bn8avl5o.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#157490
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
> The Poliburo was the governing body of hte Communist Party, which, with 
> fewer than a quarter of the seats in the legislature, is no longer in 
> power.  He is to some extent subject to the legislature but I'm not at 
> all clear on how much power he really has, I suspect that he is still 
> finding that out himself.

well ... do we blame rise of Putin on Harvard? ... capitalism
characterized as myopically focused on ever increasing quarterly profits
... looting and pillaging whoever might be convenient

well there is John Helmer: Convicted Fraudster Jonathan Hay, Harvard's
Man Who Wrecked Russia, Resurfaces in Ukraine
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/02/convicted-fraudster-jonathan-hay-harvards-man-who-wrecked-russia-resurfaces-in-ukraine.html

If you are unfamiliar with this fiasco, which was also the true
proximate cause of Larry Summers' ouster from Harvard, you must read an
extraordinary expose, How Harvard Lost Russia, from Institutional
Investor. I am told copies of this article were stuffed in every Harvard
faculty member's inbox the day Summers got a vote of no confidence and
resigned shortly thereafter.

... snip ... 

How Harvard lost Russia; The best and brightest of America's premier
university came to Moscow in the 1990s to teach Russians how to be
capitalists. This is the inside story of how their efforts led to
scandal and disgrace.
http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/Article/1020662/How-Harvard-lost-Russia.html

Mostly, they hurt Russia and its hopes of establishing a lasting
framework for a stable Western-style capitalism, as Summers himself
acknowledged when he testified under oath in the U.S. lawsuit in
Cambridge in 2002. "The project was of enormous value," said Summers,
who by then had been installed as the president of Harvard. "Its
cessation was damaging to Russian economic reform and to the
U.S.-Russian relationship."

... snip ...


-- 
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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#157498

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-24 11:36 -0500
Message-ID<1045930606.475346079.332454.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#157489
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
> Peter Flass wrote:
>> <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2016-01-23, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>> {snip}
>>>> 
>>>>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
>>>>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
>>>>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
>>>>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
>>>>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
>>>>> took him out.
>>>> 
>>>> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. He
>>>> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.
>>> 
>>> Thats Russian politics.
>>> Anyone have problems with that?
>>> There  was a story that at the end, he started to be suspicious of
>>> his doctors, wwho happened to be Jewish. Whatever about being Jewish,
>>> not trusting your doctors is not a long term health idea.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm hoping Putin will be "retired" soon, although his successor could
>> always be worse.
>> 
> Did the structure of Russian government change?  If it hasn't, Putin is
> subject to the Politburo's decisions and policies, right?
> 

Is there still a politburo?  Nominally Russia is a democracy, but Putin has
everyone pretty well under control at the moment.  I think the only way
he's going to get out is feet-first.

> /BHA
> 



-- 
Pete

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#157523

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-01-24 20:23 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnaacl0.3ji.mausg@smaus.org>
In reply to#157498
On 2016-01-24, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>> Peter Flass wrote:
>>> <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-01-23, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>>> {snip}
>>>>> 
>>>>>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
>>>>>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
>>>>>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
>>>>>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
>>>>>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
>>>>>> took him out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. He
>>>>> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.
>>>> 
>>>> Thats Russian politics.
>>>> Anyone have problems with that?
>>>> There  was a story that at the end, he started to be suspicious of
>>>> his doctors, wwho happened to be Jewish. Whatever about being Jewish,
>>>> not trusting your doctors is not a long term health idea.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm hoping Putin will be "retired" soon, although his successor could
>>> always be worse.
>>> 
>> Did the structure of Russian government change?  If it hasn't, Putin is
>> subject to the Politburo's decisions and policies, right?
>> 
>
> Is there still a politburo?  Nominally Russia is a democracy, but Putin has
> everyone pretty well under control at the moment.  I think the only way
> he's going to get out is feet-first.

Why remove Putin?,, he is clear in what he wants, sensible, Russ-ocentric
, defends the freely elected government in Syria. Irritates the loonies, 
whats not to like?.


-- 
greymaus
 .
  .
...

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#157751

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2016-01-26 14:21 +0100
Message-ID<1f8knc-lc6.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#157498
In article <1045930606.475346079.332454.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
Peter Flass  <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>> Peter Flass wrote:
>>> <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-01-23, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>>> {snip}
>>>>> 
>>>>>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
>>>>>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
>>>>>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
>>>>>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
>>>>>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
>>>>>> took him out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. He
>>>>> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.
>>>> 
>>>> Thats Russian politics.
>>>> Anyone have problems with that?
>>>> There  was a story that at the end, he started to be suspicious of
>>>> his doctors, wwho happened to be Jewish. Whatever about being Jewish,
>>>> not trusting your doctors is not a long term health idea.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm hoping Putin will be "retired" soon, although his successor could
>>> always be worse.
>>> 
>> Did the structure of Russian government change?  If it hasn't, Putin is
>> subject to the Politburo's decisions and policies, right?
>> 
>
>Is there still a politburo?  Nominally Russia is a democracy, but Putin has
>everyone pretty well under control at the moment.  I think the only way
>he's going to get out is feet-first.

He DID go, just outside the door of the presidency to the post of 
Prime Minister under Dimitry Medvedjev when his firt two terms were up.

But that is about as far as he will go. With some trusted people at the
top, and himself 1-3 places away from the core of the power.

That, or he will retire to Switzerland, Antigua, Uruguay or some other place
that will give immunity and citizenship upon a clean interpol sheet and
a permanent investment into the country.

-- mrr

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#157781

From"Orange" <oq7755@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-27 04:33 +1100
Message-ID<dgpousFpfcnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157751

"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
news:1f8knc-lc6.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
> In article 
> <1045930606.475346079.332454.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Peter Flass  <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-01-23, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>>>> {snip}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
>>>>>>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
>>>>>>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
>>>>>>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
>>>>>>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
>>>>>>> took him out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. 
>>>>>> He
>>>>>> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats Russian politics.
>>>>> Anyone have problems with that?
>>>>> There  was a story that at the end, he started to be suspicious of
>>>>> his doctors, wwho happened to be Jewish. Whatever about being Jewish,
>>>>> not trusting your doctors is not a long term health idea.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping Putin will be "retired" soon, although his successor could
>>>> always be worse.
>>>>
>>> Did the structure of Russian government change?  If it hasn't, Putin is
>>> subject to the Politburo's decisions and policies, right?
>>>
>>
>>Is there still a politburo?  Nominally Russia is a democracy, but Putin 
>>has
>>everyone pretty well under control at the moment.  I think the only way
>>he's going to get out is feet-first.
>
> He DID go, just outside the door of the presidency to the post of
> Prime Minister under Dimitry Medvedjev when his firt two terms were up.
>
> But that is about as far as he will go. With some trusted people at the
> top, and himself 1-3 places away from the core of the power.
>
> That, or he will retire to Switzerland, Antigua, Uruguay or some other 
> place
> that will give immunity and citizenship upon a clean interpol sheet and
> a permanent investment into the country.

Bet he doesn’t. 

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#157503

From"kipg" <io@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-25 04:55 +1100
Message-ID<dgkhg3FfcvnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157489

"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM00052A15DC59EC01@aca411d3.ipt.aol.com...
> Peter Flass wrote:
>> <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2016-01-23, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>>>> {snip}
>>>>
>>>>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
>>>>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
>>>>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
>>>>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
>>>>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
>>>>> took him out.
>>>>
>>>> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. He
>>>> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.
>>>
>>> Thats Russian politics.
>>> Anyone have problems with that?
>>> There  was a story that at the end, he started to be suspicious of
>>> his doctors, wwho happened to be Jewish. Whatever about being Jewish,
>>> not trusting your doctors is not a long term health idea.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm hoping Putin will be "retired" soon, although his successor could
>> always be worse.
>>
> Did the structure of Russian government change?

Yep.

> If it hasn't,

It has.

> Putin is subject to the Politburo's decisions and policies, right?

Wrong. There is no Politburo anymore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politburo#History

    Today, there are five countries that have a communist politburo
    system (China, North Korea, Laos, Vietnam and Cuba).[5] 

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#157428

From"kipg" <io@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-24 07:34 +1100
Message-ID<dgi6f5Frln0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157406

<mausg@mail.com> wrote in message news:slrnna7c2j.18i.mausg@smaus.org...
> On 2016-01-23, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> {snip}
>>
>>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
>>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
>>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
>>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
>>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
>>> took him out.
>>
>> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. He 
>> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.
> 
> Thats Russian politics.
> Anyone have problems with that?
> There  was a story that at the end, he started to be suspicious of
> his doctors, wwho happened to be Jewish. Whatever about being 
> Jewish, not trusting your doctors is not a long term health idea.

But given that it was almost certainly just a stroke that killed
him, it's very unlikely that trusting his doctors had anything
at all to do with it. He was just incapable of getting any help
after the stroke and had stupidly put the fear of god into 
people about disturbing him, so no one even checked why
he had not come out of his room until what was likely most
of the day after the stroke had happened when it was FAR
too late to do anything about the stroke. 

In fact even if he had managed to summon assistance 
when the stroke had happened, say because someone
else was in the room at the time it happened, he would 
have almost certainly have died of it anyway given what 
treatment for stroke was available there at that time, leeches.  

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#157411

From"kipg" <io@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-24 04:19 +1100
Message-ID<dghr0uFolqtU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157394

"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message 
news:9uWdnVtlReIxDD7LnZ2dnUU78WednZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 21/01/2016 16:52, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> {snip}
>
>> [pure speculation:]  Sometimes I wonder if Stalin wasn't actually
>> murdered, he was getting even more nuts in his last years, ordering
>> ever more purges that were hurting the country (like killing off
>> all the doctors).  Perhaps he was planning to use his nukes and
>> his underlings (all thugs themselves), realized the folly and
>> took him out.
>
> Stalin being killed deliberately is a view of many people in Russia. He 
> was killed in his sleep to prevent him from calling his guards.

Not that easy to kill someone in their sleep with symptoms like that tho.

Rather more likely he had a stroke and that his instructions to not
be disturbed saw no one do anything about him not showing up
in the morning as usual and the lack of any treatment at all for the
best part of a day since the stroke itself sealed his fate. In those
days there was no effective treatment for stroke, just leeches.

Presumably the stroke prevented him from calling anyone himself. 

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#156771

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-16 16:46 -0800
Message-ID<a939a16b-75bd-4bcf-8702-c12e8af385ed@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#156744
On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 11:41:17 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:

> Of course, the little matter of Soviet spies stealing the secret of the atom 
> bomb helped ignite the fuse for McCarthyite hysteria - but that doesn't explain 
> the Red Scare of the 1920s.

The brutal postwar occupation of Eastern Europe and the Korean War 
also contributed to the McCarthyite hysteria.  Many Americans were
angry at domestic Communists and their sympathizers at a time when
American boys were fighting in Korea.  For instance, the Syracuse
grocer who organized a lot of anti-Communist fervor against TV 
and radio resented advertisers having communists on their payroll
as actors when his son was in Korea.

The victory of communists in China was also a big contributor and
a big political issue, even though in reality the US had no control
over the events, and the 'victory' was more due to the utter incompetence
and corruption of the Chinese nationalists.

"Hysteria" is a good word for it.  Lots of innocent people were false
accusd of being communist and their lives ruined by the witch-hunters.
Some of the witch-hunters, like the Syracuse grocer and his friends, 
became obsessed with hunting down domestic communists.  They got
sued for falsely accusing someone, and years later the plaintiff 
won in court, though by then it was a moot point.


> The thing is, though, even in the 1920s, it was clear enough that the Communist regime in Russia was made up of megalomaniacal tyrants bent on power and steeped in cruelty - _not_ of genuine friends of the downtrodden working class. But the fact that the right wing used the real menace of Communism as an excuse to persecute people for advocating racial equality, or for promoting accurate teaching of biological science, or for other activities related to social justice, naturally led some people to the mistaken conclusion that the claims of a Communist threat were all lies.

> And so the United States was divided instead of united, less able to face the 
> challenges of the Cold War.

So true.

Sadly, while the witch-hunters were running around falsely accusing
cafteria workers of being commies, the real communists were at work
in espionage or sabotage.  Some of their efforts were revealed in 
books they wrote many years later after they got disillusioned.

Ref:  "Reds" by Ted Morgan.

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#156746

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-17 03:45 +1100
Message-ID<dfvacsF4tieU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156738

"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM0005297415E38357@aca404fd.ipt.aol.com...
> mausg@mail.com wrote:
>> On 2016-01-15, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-01-14, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:52:44 -0500, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It seems hard to believe that in this day and age such information 
>>>>>>>never
>>>>>>>passed out, but I can imagine there may have been some famous black
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Drunk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>computer people who we just never realized were black.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      There may well have been.  Since I do not care about skin colour
>>>>>> so I would not likely say anything if I did know.  I expect that 
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are many others like me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gene Wirchenko
>>>>>
>>>>> If I was a (black) computer innovator, and someone made a fuss over
>>>>>  that, I would resent that.
>>>>
>>>> My daughter the neuroscience grad student has mentioned being a bit
>>>> conflicted about "women in science" awards.  As she puts it, any award
>>>> is nice, but those have a sort of "good job! -- for a girl" ring to
>>>> them.
>>>
>>> And, now, NPR is fomenting the idea that girls aren't allowed in
>>> the computer biz.  We thought we had beat that to a pulp in the
>>> early 70s.
>>>
>>> In the 80s, that idiot von Savant preached that girls couldn't
>>> do math.
>>>
>>> /BAH
>>
>> My dad used read US magazines, I remember  one had a series, starting
>> thesis was that Russian was too primitive a language to design nuclear
>> weapoms with. A Later article had similiar, that it was too primitive
>> to design a space craft. That was after sputnik flew over the US , 
>> emitting
>> radio beeps.
>
> More US propoganda had Russians raping women

That was reality, not propaganda in Germany after WW2 had just ended.

> and children and doing all sorts of _sinful_ things.  This was all part of 
> the
> Red scare propogana byt the US government, especially McDarthy.  We had
> almost as many atom bomb drills as fire drills in grade school during the 
> 50s.

We didn’t have any of either. Very few schools ever catch fire during the
time the kids are in them, that mostly happens at night when there are
no kids attending, just the kids lighting the fires. 

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#156752

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-16 15:32 -0500
Message-ID<1125249934.474668493.680895.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156738
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
> mausg@mail.com wrote:
>> On 2016-01-15, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>>>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-01-14, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:52:44 -0500, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It seems hard to believe that in this day and age such information never
>>>>>>> passed out, but I can imagine there may have been some famous black
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Drunk?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> computer people who we just never realized were black.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There may well have been.  Since I do not care about skin colour
>>>>>> so I would not likely say anything if I did know.  I expect that there
>>>>>> are many others like me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gene Wirchenko
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I was a (black) computer innovator, and someone made a fuss over
>>>>> that, I would resent that.
>>>> 
>>>> My daughter the neuroscience grad student has mentioned being a bit
>>>> conflicted about "women in science" awards.  As she puts it, any award
>>>> is nice, but those have a sort of "good job! -- for a girl" ring to
>>>> them.
>>> 
>>> And, now, NPR is fomenting the idea that girls aren't allowed in
>>> the computer biz.  We thought we had beat that to a pulp in the
>>> early 70s.
>>> 
>>> In the 80s, that idiot von Savant preached that girls couldn't
>>> do math.
>>> 
>>> /BAH
>> 
>> My dad used read US magazines, I remember  one had a series, starting
>> thesis was that Russian was too primitive a language to design nuclear
>> weapoms with. A Later article had similiar, that it was too primitive
>> to design a space craft. That was after sputnik flew over the US , emitting
>> radio beeps.
> 
> More US propoganda had Russians raping women and children and doing all sorts
> of _sinful_ things.  This was all part of the Red scare propogana byt the
> US government, especially McDarthy.  We had almost as many atom bomb drills
> as fire drills in grade school during the 50s.
> 

Unfortunately this is mostly true, and documented.



-- 
Pete

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#156758

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2016-01-16 20:57 +0000
Message-ID<20160116205742.241d8d9555de0488b9f27635@eircom.net>
In reply to#156738
On 16 Jan 2016 14:09:15 GMT
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:

> We had almost as many atom bomb drills
> as fire drills in grade school during the 50s.

	The only one of those I heard of that made sense was, "Bend over,
tuck your head between your knees and kiss your arse goodbye".

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:>WIN                                      | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#156764

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-17 09:54 +1100
Message-ID<dg001bFagh2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156758

"Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message 
news:20160116205742.241d8d9555de0488b9f27635@eircom.net...
> On 16 Jan 2016 14:09:15 GMT
> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> We had almost as many atom bomb drills
>> as fire drills in grade school during the 50s.
>
> The only one of those I heard of that made sense was, "Bend over,
> tuck your head between your knees and kiss your arse goodbye".

It was more complicated than that in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 

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#156773

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-16 20:08 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.3104b3913ac9cd18989e0e@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156764
In article <dg001bFagh2U1@mid.individual.net>, jkl8976@nospam.com 
says...
> 
> "Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message 
> news:20160116205742.241d8d9555de0488b9f27635@eircom.net...
> > On 16 Jan 2016 14:09:15 GMT
> > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> We had almost as many atom bomb drills
> >> as fire drills in grade school during the 50s.
> >
> > The only one of those I heard of that made sense was, "Bend over,
> > tuck your head between your knees and kiss your arse goodbye".
> 
> It was more complicated than that in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 

Are you old enough to remember those drills personally?  I am and Ahem's 
got the right of it--they were risible.

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#156776

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-17 13:57 +1100
Message-ID<dg0e81Fdm1hU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156773

"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:MPG.3104b3913ac9cd18989e0e@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <dg001bFagh2U1@mid.individual.net>, jkl8976@nospam.com
> says...
>>
>> "Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message
>> news:20160116205742.241d8d9555de0488b9f27635@eircom.net...
>> > On 16 Jan 2016 14:09:15 GMT
>> > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> We had almost as many atom bomb drills
>> >> as fire drills in grade school during the 50s.
>> >
>> > The only one of those I heard of that made sense was, "Bend over,
>> > tuck your head between your knees and kiss your arse goodbye".
>>
>> It was more complicated than that in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
>
> Are you old enough to remember those drills personally?

We didn't have any here.

> I am and Ahem's got the right of it--they were risible.

He's not right with the about what made sense.

It did make sense to get where you wouldn't be
exposed to flash burns. Plenty survived Hiroshima
and Nagasaki because they weren't exposed to
flash burns purely by luck because of where they
were when the bomb went off.
 

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#156779

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-16 23:33 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.3104e38d45519862989e10@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156776
In article <dg0e81Fdm1hU1@mid.individual.net>, jkl8976@nospam.com 
says...
> 
> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:MPG.3104b3913ac9cd18989e0e@news.eternal-september.org...
> > In article <dg001bFagh2U1@mid.individual.net>, jkl8976@nospam.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message
> >> news:20160116205742.241d8d9555de0488b9f27635@eircom.net...
> >> > On 16 Jan 2016 14:09:15 GMT
> >> > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> We had almost as many atom bomb drills
> >> >> as fire drills in grade school during the 50s.
> >> >
> >> > The only one of those I heard of that made sense was, "Bend over,
> >> > tuck your head between your knees and kiss your arse goodbye".
> >>
> >> It was more complicated than that in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
> >
> > Are you old enough to remember those drills personally?
> 
> We didn't have any here.
> 
> > I am and Ahem's got the right of it--they were risible.
> 
> He's not right with the about what made sense.
> 
> It did make sense to get where you wouldn't be
> exposed to flash burns.

That's nice.  Perhaps the designers of the drills should have read the 
same book you did.

> Plenty survived Hiroshima
> and Nagasaki because they weren't exposed to
> flash burns purely by luck because of where they
> were when the bomb went off.

So?  


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#156785

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-17 16:09 +1100
Message-ID<dg0m06FfarhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156779

"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:MPG.3104e38d45519862989e10@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <dg0e81Fdm1hU1@mid.individual.net>, jkl8976@nospam.com
> says...
>>
>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.3104b3913ac9cd18989e0e@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > In article <dg001bFagh2U1@mid.individual.net>, jkl8976@nospam.com
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> "Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:20160116205742.241d8d9555de0488b9f27635@eircom.net...
>> >> > On 16 Jan 2016 14:09:15 GMT
>> >> > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> We had almost as many atom bomb drills
>> >> >> as fire drills in grade school during the 50s.
>> >> >
>> >> > The only one of those I heard of that made sense was, "Bend over,
>> >> > tuck your head between your knees and kiss your arse goodbye".
>> >>
>> >> It was more complicated than that in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
>> >
>> > Are you old enough to remember those drills personally?
>>
>> We didn't have any here.
>>
>> > I am and Ahem's got the right of it--they were risible.
>>
>> He's not right with the about what made sense.
>>
>> It did make sense to get where you wouldn't be
>> exposed to flash burns.
>
> That's nice.  Perhaps the designers of the drills should have read the
> same book you did.
>
>> Plenty survived Hiroshima
>> and Nagasaki because they weren't exposed to
>> flash burns purely by luck because of where they
>> were when the bomb went off.
>
> So?

So some of what they were told to do like get under their
desks did make sense and is better than doing nothing. 

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