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Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union)

Started byhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
First post2016-01-12 18:53 -0800
Last post2016-01-14 14:02 +0000
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  Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-12 18:53 -0800
    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-13 16:32 -0500
      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-13 13:40 -0800
        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2016-01-13 17:04 -0500
        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-13 17:11 -0500
        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-13 16:10 -0600
          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-13 14:23 -0800
            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-13 18:52 -0500
              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-13 17:20 -0800
                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 08:03 -0500
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-14 14:20 -0800
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-17 03:37 -0600
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:07 -0500
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 15:11 +0000
                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-14 14:12 +0000
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-01-14 08:27 -0700
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-14 14:26 -0800
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2016-01-16 16:21 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-16 14:59 -0800
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-15 14:51 +0000
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-15 16:50 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-15 17:53 +0000
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-15 19:38 +0100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-15 11:15 -0800
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-15 15:52 -0500
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-15 14:00 -0800
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-17 03:53 -0600
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-17 12:03 +0000
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 09:22 -0500
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-15 11:11 -0800
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-16 14:09 +0000
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-16 08:41 -0800
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-16 09:10 -0800
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 07:46 +1100
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 20:04 -0500
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-16 19:18 -0800
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 23:34 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:15 -0800
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 15:33 +1100
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-16 22:51 -0600
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 16:15 +1100
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-16 22:31 -0800
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-17 14:03 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 05:03 +1100
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:24 -0800
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 15:49 -0600
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-19 13:59 -0800
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:31 +1100
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:50 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-19 17:46 -0800
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:36 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:36 -0500
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-19 19:46 -0800
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:20 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-20 10:09 -0800
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 13:27 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-20 10:11 -0800
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 05:56 +1100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:35 -0500
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 10:35 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:45 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:13 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:34 -0800
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:40 -0600
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:33 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:27 -0800
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:36 -0600
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:08 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 12:29 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-22 10:56 -0800
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-22 19:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-22 11:22 -0800
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-22 20:00 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-22 12:43 -0800
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 09:07 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-22 14:24 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 09:11 -0600
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-23 11:27 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 11:14 -0600
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 17:22 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 18:47 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-20 14:04 +0000
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:38 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-21 14:12 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 18:15 -0500
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:47 +1100
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 11:54 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:52 -0800
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 11:29 -0600
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:39 -0600
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 14:46 +0000
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-23 17:14 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-23 18:50 -0800
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-24 04:25 +1100
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 14:44 +0000
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-23 16:54 +0000
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-23 15:01 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-24 07:45 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-24 15:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 10:43 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-24 11:21 -0800
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-24 11:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-24 20:23 +0000
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-26 14:21 +0100
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Orange" <oq7755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 04:33 +1100
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-25 04:55 +1100
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-24 07:34 +1100
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "kipg" <io@nospam.com> - 2016-01-24 04:19 +1100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-16 16:46 -0800
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:45 +1100
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-16 15:32 -0500
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-16 20:57 +0000
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 09:54 +1100
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 20:08 -0500
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 13:57 +1100
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 23:33 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 16:09 +1100
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 00:40 -0500
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 17:40 +1100
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-17 07:19 +0000
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 19:18 +1100
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:40 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-17 14:12 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:59 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 05:19 +1100
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-24 19:41 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-25 13:09 +1100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-25 14:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 11:22 -0600
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-25 16:04 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-26 09:55 +1100
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-25 19:41 -0600
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-25 19:46 -0800
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-25 20:31 -0800
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 06:42 -0500
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 11:39 -0600
                                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 19:23 -0500
                                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 21:42 -0600
                                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-27 08:27 +0000
                                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 06:19 -0500
                                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-28 15:56 -0600
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 17:43 -0800
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-26 16:05 +1100
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 19:40 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 14:19 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-17 19:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 19:27 -0500
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-17 23:45 -0500
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 00:54 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:02 +1100
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:30 -0600
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 18:17 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 19:24 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-17 08:18 -0600
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:21 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:45 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:34 -0800
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 18:51 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-20 14:12 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-01-20 17:13 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-21 14:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:11 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:40 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-21 14:47 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:10 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 11:41 -0600
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-01-21 20:35 +0000
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:49 -0600
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:41 -0600
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 10:40 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-01-21 20:37 +0000
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-21 16:02 -0600
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 18:42 -0600
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 13:29 +1100
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2016-01-22 21:09 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-21 16:04 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-22 13:55 +0000
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:16 -0800
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 18:34 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:36 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-17 12:14 +0000
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:49 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:57 +1100
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:19 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 09:22 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-17 15:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 12:02 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 05:24 +1100
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 18:13 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 10:35 +1100
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-18 12:33 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 08:53 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-19 13:37 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:32 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 11:41 +1100
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 19:56 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 21:12 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-19 00:07 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 14:06 +1100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-19 07:36 -0500
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-19 13:37 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-19 15:47 -0500
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:20 -0800
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:32 -0600
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 14:11 +1100
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:15 +0100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 20:41 +1100
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 07:03 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 10:34 -0600
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 07:59 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 10:19 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:16 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 06:21 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-20 11:41 +0000
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 12:07 +0000
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 04:53 +1100
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 20:16 +0000
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:46 +1100
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-20 15:01 -0600
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:17 +1100
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 17:29 -0600
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 21:22 +0000
                                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:52 +1100
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 11:46 +0000
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:02 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 10:33 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-19 14:24 +0000
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 12:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 05:23 +1100
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:37 +1100
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 09:22 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:34 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:34 +1100
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-17 11:42 +0000
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:54 -0500
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 07:09 -0500
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 07:26 -0500
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 04:52 +1100
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-17 14:08 +0000
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-17 15:50 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:58 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-17 19:08 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 19:26 -0500
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-17 19:08 -0600
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:33 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 10:32 -0600
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-21 17:41 -0800
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-22 03:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-22 17:34 -0800
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-23 05:06 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-23 15:29 -0800
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-25 02:15 +0000
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:20 -0800
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-18 08:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-18 10:22 +0100
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-18 09:58 +0000
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 07:45 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 16:38 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:59 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 11:42 +1100
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 20:37 -0600
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 14:20 +1100
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-18 07:45 -0500
                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 04:18 +1100
                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-18 18:51 +0100
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-19 00:41 -0400
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-18 23:58 -0500
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-19 07:36 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-19 14:27 +0000
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 14:38 +0000
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-19 18:33 +0000
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 16:28 -0500
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-19 13:57 -0800
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-19 16:46 -0600
                                                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-21 17:50 -0800
                                                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 21:43 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:53 -0800
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-19 22:14 +0000
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 17:35 -0600
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-21 07:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:26 -0800
                                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 11:31 -0600
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 18:52 -0500
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:36 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-19 19:27 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 08:59 -0800
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 17:54 -0600
                                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:01 -0800
                                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 11:49 -0600
                                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 11:01 -0600
                                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-19 11:19 -0600
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:30 -0500
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:32 -0800
                                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-18 19:06 -0600
                                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:39 -0600
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:57 -0500
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:02 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 15:40 +1100
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 15:55 +1100
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-18 15:57 +1100
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-24 19:37 -0600
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-25 13:05 +1100
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 21:59 -0500
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-16 22:57 -0600
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 16:17 +1100
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:27 -0800
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-01-19 23:24 +0000
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:43 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 09:10 -0800
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-17 08:15 +0000
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 06:42 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-17 15:40 +0000
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-17 23:24 -0500
                                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 12:36 -0800
                                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-19 20:47 +0000
                                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-19 16:28 -0500
                                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-20 08:18 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:21 -0600
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 15:08 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 11:15 -0500
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 17:44 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 19:08 -0600
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-16 17:07 -0500
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 09:56 +1100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-16 16:30 -0800
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-17 15:26 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 05:13 +1100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-19 13:36 -0600
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-19 13:37 -0600
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 14:35 -0600
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2016-01-21 17:05 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-21 12:18 -0500
                                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:35 -0600
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-22 13:55 +0000
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-15 17:26 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-15 22:20 +0000
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-16 10:42 +0000
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 06:04 -0500
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-16 11:39 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 07:23 -0500
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-16 13:09 +0100
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-17 03:41 +1100
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-14 11:02 -0800
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 11:56 -0800
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 18:57 -0500
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 16:08 -0800
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 18:03 -0800
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:41 -0500
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-15 14:51 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-01-15 15:43 +0000
                                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-16 14:09 +0000
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-15 15:06 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 17:53 -0500
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-15 07:04 +0000
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-15 19:29 +1100
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:43 -0500
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-15 15:52 -0500
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2016-01-14 16:00 -0900
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-15 15:05 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:04 -0600
                          Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 21:17 -0500
                            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 07:57 +0000
                              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-24 19:53 -0600
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-15 15:01 +0000
                        Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 17:53 -0500
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-14 21:17 +0000
              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-13 18:08 -0800
                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-13 21:25 -0500
                  Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 07:31 -0800
                    Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-14 18:46 +0100
                      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-14 10:43 -0800
                Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-24 20:00 -0600
              Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-14 00:31 -0800
            Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-17 03:30 -0600
      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-14 01:35 +0000
      Re: Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-14 14:02 +0000

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#157348

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-01-22 13:55 +0000
Message-ID<PM000529EC73CDCDD2@aca41668.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#157286
Joe keane wrote:
> In article <n7m35k$j5v$1@dont-email.me>,
> Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>We still have a "Red scare" in the U. S. ... only now it's the Republicans
>>and the Red states!!!
>
> Somehow the colors got reversed.
>
Done on purpose by CBS.

/BAH

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#156688

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2016-01-15 17:26 +0000
Message-ID<0Z9my.156227$b8.144498@fx29.iad>
In reply to#156678
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>
>>> On 2016-01-14, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:52:44 -0500, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>>>It seems hard to believe that in this day and age such information never
>>>>>passed out, but I can imagine there may have been some famous black
>>>>
>>>>      Drunk?
>>>>
>>>>>computer people who we just never realized were black.
>>>>
>>>>      There may well have been.  Since I do not care about skin colour
>>>> so I would not likely say anything if I did know.  I expect that there
>>>> are many others like me.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Gene Wirchenko
>>>
>>> If I was a (black) computer innovator, and someone made a fuss over
>>>  that, I would resent that.
>>
>> My daughter the neuroscience grad student has mentioned being a bit
>> conflicted about "women in science" awards.  As she puts it, any award
>> is nice, but those have a sort of "good job! -- for a girl" ring to
>> them.
>
>And, now, NPR is fomenting the idea that girls aren't allowed in

 NPR doesn't "foment" ideas.  It reports on ideas fomented by
others.

 There were more women working in computing, as a percentage,
in 1985 then there are now.

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#156710

FromBob Eager <news0006@eager.cx>
Date2016-01-15 22:20 +0000
Message-ID<dft9ltFt0s9U9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156688
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:26:20 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:

>  There were more women working in computing, as a percentage,
> in 1985 then there are now.

My wife presented a paper on that back in 1990. I've just seen the whole 
thing rehashed, somewhere or other.

-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

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#156730

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-01-16 10:42 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn9k7kn.192.mausg@smaus.org>
In reply to#156710
On 2016-01-15, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:26:20 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
>>  There were more women working in computing, as a percentage,
>> in 1985 then there are now.
>
> My wife presented a paper on that back in 1990. I've just seen the whole 
> thing rehashed, somewhere or other.
>

Teaching, here (.ie) is a largely female profession, and medicine also.

-- 
greymaus
 .
  .
...

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#156731

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-16 06:04 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.3103eddb5d8be5d1989e06@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156730
In article <slrnn9k7kn.192.mausg@smaus.org>, mausg@mail.com says...
> 
> On 2016-01-15, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:26:20 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >
> >>  There were more women working in computing, as a percentage,
> >> in 1985 then there are now.
> >
> > My wife presented a paper on that back in 1990. I've just seen the whole 
> > thing rehashed, somewhere or other.
> >
> 
> Teaching, here (.ie) is a largely female profession, and medicine also.

I'd say based on an entirely unscientific sampling, that the majority of 
our actuaries are women, the quants are about 50-50.

But there's a gotcha--a lot of them are Asian and European women.

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#156732

FromBob Eager <news0006@eager.cx>
Date2016-01-16 11:39 +0000
Message-ID<dfuof8Ft0s9U13@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156731
On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 06:04:46 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:

> In article <slrnn9k7kn.192.mausg@smaus.org>, mausg@mail.com says...
>> 
>> On 2016-01-15, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:26:20 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> >
>> >>  There were more women working in computing, as a percentage,
>> >> in 1985 then there are now.
>> >
>> > My wife presented a paper on that back in 1990. I've just seen the
>> > whole thing rehashed, somewhere or other.
>> >
>> >
>> Teaching, here (.ie) is a largely female profession, and medicine also.
> 
> I'd say based on an entirely unscientific sampling, that the majority of
> our actuaries are women, the quants are about 50-50.
> 
> But there's a gotcha--a lot of them are Asian and European women.

What are the rest? North American?




-- 
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#156733

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-16 07:23 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.3104003815e6102e989e0a@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156732
In article <dfuof8Ft0s9U13@mid.individual.net>, news0006@eager.cx 
says...
> 
> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 06:04:46 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:
> 
> > In article <slrnn9k7kn.192.mausg@smaus.org>, mausg@mail.com says...
> >> 
> >> On 2016-01-15, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:26:20 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>  There were more women working in computing, as a percentage,
> >> >> in 1985 then there are now.
> >> >
> >> > My wife presented a paper on that back in 1990. I've just seen the
> >> > whole thing rehashed, somewhere or other.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Teaching, here (.ie) is a largely female profession, and medicine also.
> > 
> > I'd say based on an entirely unscientific sampling, that the majority of
> > our actuaries are women, the quants are about 50-50.
> > 
> > But there's a gotcha--a lot of them are Asian and European women.
> 
> What are the rest? North American?

<looking over glasses>

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#156734

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2016-01-16 13:09 +0100
Message-ID<7gopmc-3gt.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#156730
In article <slrnn9k7kn.192.mausg@smaus.org>,  <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>On 2016-01-15, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:26:20 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>>  There were more women working in computing, as a percentage,
>>> in 1985 then there are now.
>>
>> My wife presented a paper on that back in 1990. I've just seen the whole 
>> thing rehashed, somewhere or other.
>>
>
>Teaching, here (.ie) is a largely female profession, and medicine also.

In our universities the dentists have female rates near 60%, medicine
near parity, social sciences too. Economics is making a great shift, 
from around 15% for decades up to parity. Law and natural sciences 
hover around 20% and has done so for decades. Except the teaching
courses, which are near 60%. 

-- mrr

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#156745

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-17 03:41 +1100
Message-ID<dfva63F4rmnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156730

<mausg@mail.com> wrote in message news:slrnn9k7kn.192.mausg@smaus.org...
> On 2016-01-15, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:26:20 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>>  There were more women working in computing, as a percentage,
>>> in 1985 then there are now.
>>
>> My wife presented a paper on that back in 1990. I've just seen the whole
>> thing rehashed, somewhere or other.
>>
>
> Teaching, here (.ie) is a largely female profession,

That is only true of primary/grade school here. Not high
school where it is closer to 50/50 with still some male bias.

> and medicine also.

Not here and certainly not with the specialists. There
are quite a few GP women but far fewer specialists.

The nursing profession is completely dominated
by women tho with men still quite unusual. 

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#156650

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-01-14 11:02 -0800
Message-ID<87r3hkgf1m.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#156639
mausg@mail.com writes:
> If people people object to `hackers', I would enter a list of groups that
> started as `someidiotic name', then switched to a `SENSIBLE NAAME' as they
> became mainstream. Nope, cant remember where I saw that list. 

old time group 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hackers_Conference

cbs 60s mins wanted to do segment on the conferrence ... and there was
3month negotiations that they wouldn't portray it as the "bad guys"
... they were allowed to attend and do some filming and sunday night
they open'ed with secret group in silicon valley plotting to take over
the world. next year the conference tshirt that had spoof of cbs
logo. loosing battle trying to stop popular press characterizing hackers
as the bad guys. lots of us are grey beards now and there has been
effort to invite younger generation.

for a time, I was the only IBMer (and now "former IBMer").

culture has changed too ... early days, people would bring unannounced
products and people that were nominally competitors could play with each
others products ... unheard of these days.

-- 
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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#156655

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-14 11:56 -0800
Message-ID<99498d21-1a96-4f7b-8d9d-ecedcff72f11@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#156650
On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 2:02:49 PM UTC-5, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:

> culture has changed too ... early days, people would bring unannounced
> products and people that were nominally competitors could play with each
> others products ... unheard of these days.

I was taking a class at Univac Blue Bell.  I decided to take a break
and wander around, something in itself not allowed today.  Anyway,
a man working in his lab invited me to show me a product under development.
I doubt security would allow that kind of thing today.

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#156663

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-14 18:57 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.3101ffd9a3459dae989dfd@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156655
In article <99498d21-1a96-4f7b-8d9d-ecedcff72f11@googlegroups.com>, 
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
> 
> On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 2:02:49 PM UTC-5, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:
> 
> > culture has changed too ... early days, people would bring unannounced
> > products and people that were nominally competitors could play with each
> > others products ... unheard of these days.
> 
> I was taking a class at Univac Blue Bell.  I decided to take a break
> and wander around, something in itself not allowed today.  Anyway,
> a man working in his lab invited me to show me a product under development.
> I doubt security would allow that kind of thing today.

Flashing on the CEO of one of my former employers.  He gave us explicit 
orders to "wander around" customer sites (like Sandia, Boeing Missiles 
and Space, Aerojet, . . .) and see what we could learn.  When we came 
back having not wandered, we got yelled at.  One day he decided to go 
with us to Boeing and show us how it was done.  Not sure where exactly 
he wandered to, but after the meeting was over our chief engineer had to 
bail the CEO out of jail.  We got no more crap about "wandering around" 
after that.



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#156664

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-14 16:08 -0800
Message-ID<cbb638dc-bf2c-4835-889d-89f511a3044c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#156663
On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 6:51:03 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:


> > I was taking a class at Univac Blue Bell.  I decided to take a break
> > and wander around, something in itself not allowed today.  Anyway,
> > a man working in his lab invited me to show me a product under development.
> > I doubt security would allow that kind of thing today.
> 
> Flashing on the CEO of one of my former employers.  He gave us explicit 
> orders to "wander around" customer sites (like Sandia, Boeing Missiles 
> and Space, Aerojet, . . .) and see what we could learn.  When we came 
> back having not wandered, we got yelled at.  One day he decided to go 
> with us to Boeing and show us how it was done.  Not sure where exactly 
> he wandered to, but after the meeting was over our chief engineer had to 
> bail the CEO out of jail.  We got no more crap about "wandering around" 
> after that.


Well, I suspect there were certain labs of Univac that handled
military work and were probably off-limits.  Probably some other
labs or offices too.

Companies that had defense contracts could often be very strict about
security--the military demanded it.

(My uncle's employer had defense contracts but no security.  They
made bathing suits for the military.)

On the other hand, I once visited a military Arsenal and was
surprised by the relatively low security.  I had to be checked in and
escorted to my destination.  But the guards were old men, not crisp
MP's that I expected.  Once I entered the complex, there wasn't 
any building security.  When I was done, I walked out on my own.
FWIW, the facility is now closed.

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#156667

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-14 18:03 -0800
Message-ID<432bf11a-7db7-47f8-9165-4cd9483fe420@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#156664
> On the other hand, I once visited a military Arsenal ...

ObComp:

I think they had a S/370-158 to handle administrative tasks, but maybe
it was a S/360-50.

Employees submitted a punched-card timesheet, using the IBM Porta Punch.
That used a pre-scored card, a plastic box, and a stylus to hand-punch 
the card.

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#156668

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-14 21:41 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.31022648cb9f4bc4989dff@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156664
In article <cbb638dc-bf2c-4835-889d-89f511a3044c@googlegroups.com>, 
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
> 
> On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 6:51:03 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> 
> 
> > > I was taking a class at Univac Blue Bell.  I decided to take a break
> > > and wander around, something in itself not allowed today.  Anyway,
> > > a man working in his lab invited me to show me a product under development.
> > > I doubt security would allow that kind of thing today.
> > 
> > Flashing on the CEO of one of my former employers.  He gave us explicit 
> > orders to "wander around" customer sites (like Sandia, Boeing Missiles 
> > and Space, Aerojet, . . .) and see what we could learn.  When we came 
> > back having not wandered, we got yelled at.  One day he decided to go 
> > with us to Boeing and show us how it was done.  Not sure where exactly 
> > he wandered to, but after the meeting was over our chief engineer had to 
> > bail the CEO out of jail.  We got no more crap about "wandering around" 
> > after that.
> 
> 
> Well, I suspect there were certain labs of Univac that handled
> military work and were probably off-limits.  Probably some other
> labs or offices too.
> 
> Companies that had defense contracts could often be very strict about
> security--the military demanded it.
> 
> (My uncle's employer had defense contracts but no security.  They
> made bathing suits for the military.)
> 
> On the other hand, I once visited a military Arsenal and was
> surprised by the relatively low security.  I had to be checked in and
> escorted to my destination.  But the guards were old men, not crisp
> MP's that I expected.  Once I entered the complex, there wasn't 
> any building security.  When I was done, I walked out on my own.
> FWIW, the facility is now closed.

I remember one of our engineers wasn't allowed aboard an E-2 at Grumman.  
Had no trouble getting inside at an airshow.  The real joke was that he 
was Navy Reserve and flew one a couple of weeknds a month.

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#156677

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-01-15 14:51 +0000
Message-ID<PM0005296074CE9DF2@aca20255.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#156668
J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <cbb638dc-bf2c-4835-889d-89f511a3044c@googlegroups.com>,
> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>>
>> On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 6:51:03 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>
>> > > I was taking a class at Univac Blue Bell.  I decided to take a break
>> > > and wander around, something in itself not allowed today.  Anyway,
>> > > a man working in his lab invited me to show me a product under
development.
>> > > I doubt security would allow that kind of thing today.
>> >
>> > Flashing on the CEO of one of my former employers.  He gave us explicit
>> > orders to "wander around" customer sites (like Sandia, Boeing Missiles
>> > and Space, Aerojet, . . .) and see what we could learn.  When we came
>> > back having not wandered, we got yelled at.  One day he decided to go
>> > with us to Boeing and show us how it was done.  Not sure where exactly
>> > he wandered to, but after the meeting was over our chief engineer had to
>> > bail the CEO out of jail.  We got no more crap about "wandering around"
>> > after that.
>>
>>
>> Well, I suspect there were certain labs of Univac that handled
>> military work and were probably off-limits.  Probably some other
>> labs or offices too.
>>
>> Companies that had defense contracts could often be very strict about
>> security--the military demanded it.
>>
>> (My uncle's employer had defense contracts but no security.  They
>> made bathing suits for the military.)
>>
>> On the other hand, I once visited a military Arsenal and was
>> surprised by the relatively low security.  I had to be checked in and
>> escorted to my destination.  But the guards were old men, not crisp
>> MP's that I expected.  Once I entered the complex, there wasn't
>> any building security.  When I was done, I walked out on my own.
>> FWIW, the facility is now closed.
>
> I remember one of our engineers wasn't allowed aboard an E-2 at Grumman.
> Had no trouble getting inside at an airshow.  The real joke was that he
> was Navy Reserve and flew one a couple of weeknds a month.

JMF wrote a physics paper for school.  He was so proud of it, he asked
to see it.  He was denied because he didn't have the required clearance.

/BAH

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#156682

FromStephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com>
Date2016-01-15 15:43 +0000
Message-ID<vs3i9b1f56lalpcu1910ahdllmgb7a3i7p@4ax.com>
In reply to#156677
On 15 Jan 2016 14:51:50 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:

>JMF wrote a physics paper for school.  He was so proud of it, he asked
>to see it.  He was denied because he didn't have the required clearance.

It could be to stop different versions getting published, regardless
of security issues.

Steve

-- 
Neural Network Software for Windows                 http://www.npsnn.com

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#156737

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2016-01-16 14:09 +0000
Message-ID<PM00052973FB6E75C8@aca404fd.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#156682
Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
> On 15 Jan 2016 14:51:50 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>JMF wrote a physics paper for school.  He was so proud of it, he asked
>>to see it.  He was denied because he didn't have the required clearance.
>
> It could be to stop different versions getting published, regardless
> of security issues.

Not that time.

/BAH

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#156681

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2016-01-15 15:06 +0000
Message-ID<LV7my.158680$zT1.136931@fx26.iad>
In reply to#156668
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>In article <cbb638dc-bf2c-4835-889d-89f511a3044c@googlegroups.com>, 
>hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>> 
>> On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 6:51:03 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > > I was taking a class at Univac Blue Bell.  I decided to take a break
>> > > and wander around, something in itself not allowed today.  Anyway,
>> > > a man working in his lab invited me to show me a product under development.
>> > > I doubt security would allow that kind of thing today.
>> > 
>> > Flashing on the CEO of one of my former employers.  He gave us explicit 
>> > orders to "wander around" customer sites (like Sandia, Boeing Missiles 
>> > and Space, Aerojet, . . .) and see what we could learn.  When we came 
>> > back having not wandered, we got yelled at.  One day he decided to go 
>> > with us to Boeing and show us how it was done.  Not sure where exactly 
>> > he wandered to, but after the meeting was over our chief engineer had to 
>> > bail the CEO out of jail.  We got no more crap about "wandering around" 
>> > after that.
>> 
>> 
>> Well, I suspect there were certain labs of Univac that handled
>> military work and were probably off-limits.  Probably some other
>> labs or offices too.
>> 
>> Companies that had defense contracts could often be very strict about
>> security--the military demanded it.
>> 
>> (My uncle's employer had defense contracts but no security.  They
>> made bathing suits for the military.)
>> 
>> On the other hand, I once visited a military Arsenal and was
>> surprised by the relatively low security.  I had to be checked in and
>> escorted to my destination.  But the guards were old men, not crisp
>> MP's that I expected.  Once I entered the complex, there wasn't 
>> any building security.  When I was done, I walked out on my own.
>> FWIW, the facility is now closed.
>
>I remember one of our engineers wasn't allowed aboard an E-2 at Grumman.  
>Had no trouble getting inside at an airshow.  The real joke was that he 
>was Navy Reserve and flew one a couple of weeknds a month.

The E2 at Grumman likely had classified equipment that would have
been removed or disguised on an airshow aircraft.

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#156715

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-15 17:53 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.31034292de81b5a9989e04@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156681
In article <LV7my.158680$zT1.136931@fx26.iad>, scott@slp53.sl.home 
says...
> 
> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
> >In article <cbb638dc-bf2c-4835-889d-89f511a3044c@googlegroups.com>, 
> >hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
> >> 
> >> On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 6:51:03 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > > I was taking a class at Univac Blue Bell.  I decided to take a break
> >> > > and wander around, something in itself not allowed today.  Anyway,
> >> > > a man working in his lab invited me to show me a product under development.
> >> > > I doubt security would allow that kind of thing today.
> >> > 
> >> > Flashing on the CEO of one of my former employers.  He gave us explicit 
> >> > orders to "wander around" customer sites (like Sandia, Boeing Missiles 
> >> > and Space, Aerojet, . . .) and see what we could learn.  When we came 
> >> > back having not wandered, we got yelled at.  One day he decided to go 
> >> > with us to Boeing and show us how it was done.  Not sure where exactly 
> >> > he wandered to, but after the meeting was over our chief engineer had to 
> >> > bail the CEO out of jail.  We got no more crap about "wandering around" 
> >> > after that.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Well, I suspect there were certain labs of Univac that handled
> >> military work and were probably off-limits.  Probably some other
> >> labs or offices too.
> >> 
> >> Companies that had defense contracts could often be very strict about
> >> security--the military demanded it.
> >> 
> >> (My uncle's employer had defense contracts but no security.  They
> >> made bathing suits for the military.)
> >> 
> >> On the other hand, I once visited a military Arsenal and was
> >> surprised by the relatively low security.  I had to be checked in and
> >> escorted to my destination.  But the guards were old men, not crisp
> >> MP's that I expected.  Once I entered the complex, there wasn't 
> >> any building security.  When I was done, I walked out on my own.
> >> FWIW, the facility is now closed.
> >
> >I remember one of our engineers wasn't allowed aboard an E-2 at Grumman.  
> >Had no trouble getting inside at an airshow.  The real joke was that he 
> >was Navy Reserve and flew one a couple of weeknds a month.
> 
> The E2 at Grumman likely had classified equipment that would have
> been removed or disguised on an airshow aircraft.

Nope.  The Navy doesn't take planes apart to fly them to airshows.

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