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1976 vs. 2016?

Started byhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
First post2016-01-10 19:18 -0800
Last post2016-01-12 02:52 +0000
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  1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-10 19:18 -0800
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-11 17:34 +1100
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 06:50 -0500
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 05:44 +1100
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-11 13:31 +0000
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-11 14:15 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-11 15:21 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 18:41 -0500
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2016-01-15 20:18 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? timcaffrey420@gmail.com - 2016-01-15 15:47 -0800
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-15 23:25 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-16 06:32 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2016-01-16 18:32 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-16 20:34 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-17 03:21 -0600
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2016-01-16 21:06 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2016-01-18 08:46 -0700
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2016-01-18 22:22 +0000
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-11 01:05 -0600
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-11 10:56 +0000
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-11 17:48 +0000
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-11 19:13 +0000
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mathias Koerber <mathias@koerber.org> - 2016-01-29 17:45 +0800
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 07:32 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-29 09:25 -0600
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Simmy Jacks" <sk98@nospam.com> - 2016-01-30 04:59 +1100
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 20:12 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-30 09:24 +1100
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-29 22:30 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-29 19:22 -0600
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-01-30 09:31 +0000
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:45 -0500
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-01-30 15:30 +0000
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 11:18 -0500
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-30 14:30 -0800
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 17:10 -0600
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 18:51 -0500
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-30 11:03 +0100
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-31 11:20 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 19:30 -0500
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-30 05:15 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 22:05 -0400
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-30 15:19 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mathias Koerber <mathias@koerber.org> - 2016-02-01 13:27 +0800
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-29 19:17 -0600
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 19:47 -0600
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 22:09 -0400
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-30 14:28 -0800
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 18:44 -0500
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-30 18:26 -0800
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 04:34 -0500
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-31 09:42 +0000
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 04:54 +1100
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-31 21:31 +0000
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 19:27 -0500
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 12:38 +1100
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-01 01:43 +0000
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 13:29 +1100
                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-01 07:15 +0000
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 19:56 +1100
                                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-01 21:36 +0000
                                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 10:00 +1100
                                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-02 00:39 +0000
                                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 13:01 +1100
                                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-02 08:23 +0000
                                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 19:30 +1100
                                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-02 09:18 +0000
                                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-02 09:55 +0000
                                                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-02 12:19 +0000
                                                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-02 16:54 +0000
                                                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-02 18:35 +0000
                                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-03 05:22 +1100
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:53 +0000
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 20:01 +1100
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-01 11:02 +0000
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 05:36 +1100
                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-01 19:25 +0000
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 09:27 +1100
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mathias Koerber <mathias@koerber.org> - 2016-02-02 12:45 +0800
                                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-02 16:23 +1100
                                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-02 08:24 +0000
                                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-02 20:34 +0000
                                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-03 01:18 +0000
                                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 15:25 +1100
                                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-02-03 08:45 +0000
                                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-03 20:51 +1100
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-31 14:09 -0800
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 12:46 +1100
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-31 20:16 -0600
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-31 07:19 -0500
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-31 14:46 +0000
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-01-31 15:22 +0000
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-31 15:48 +0000
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-31 16:43 +0000
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-31 12:55 -0500
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-31 17:55 +0000
                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-31 20:36 +0000
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-01 09:24 +0000
                                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-01 10:07 +0000
                                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-01 10:42 +0000
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-02-01 12:56 +0000
                                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-01 16:48 +0000
                                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-02-02 09:42 +0000
                                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-02 17:05 +0000
                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-31 21:34 +0000
                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2016-02-02 00:46 +0000
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-02 09:58 +0000
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-31 15:30 +0000
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-31 16:44 +0000
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 16:26 -0600
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-01 00:06 +0100
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 13:02 +1100
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 21:55 -0600
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-02-01 12:52 +1100
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-31 17:59 -0800
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 20:40 -0600
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-01 09:25 +0000
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 12:52 -0600
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-01 21:23 +0000
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:52 -0600
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 16:13 -0600
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 16:02 -0600
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-31 17:14 -0500
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-31 16:33 -0600
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-31 19:11 -0500
                            Dollar Coins in Coin Op Gear in the US Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-31 18:35 -0600
                              Re: Dollar Coins in Coin Op Gear in the US Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 20:51 -0600
                                Re: Dollar Coins in Coin Op Gear in the US Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-01 09:10 -0600
                                  Re: Dollar Coins in Coin Op Gear in the US Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 13:08 -0600
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 19:11 -0600
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-31 19:42 -0600
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 20:09 -0600
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-01 08:59 -0600
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-31 18:10 -0800
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 21:17 -0600
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-01 06:34 -0800
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 12:01 -0600
                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 14:51 -0500
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 13:18 +1100
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-31 22:30 -0500
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-02-01 17:02 +0000
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-01 13:08 -0500
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-02 03:18 -0400
                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-02 07:44 +0000
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Blanco" <rko4410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 19:12 +1100
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-02 14:14 +0000
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-02-02 14:37 +0000
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-31 23:10 -0500
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-01 09:28 +0000
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 11:51 -0600
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-01 13:07 -0500
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-02 03:31 -0400
                                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-02 12:40 -0800
                                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-03 12:45 -0500
                                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-03 18:24 +0000
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:53 +0000
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 08:12 -0500
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-01 16:03 +0000
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-01 16:15 +0000
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-02 06:01 +1100
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-31 17:56 -0800
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-31 15:58 -0600
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-31 17:52 -0800
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-01 08:12 -0500
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 12:23 -0600
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-01 14:05 -0600
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-01 12:43 -0800
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-02 00:12 +0000
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 15:27 -0600
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-02 00:08 +0000
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-01 18:24 -0600
                                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-01 19:07 -0600
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-30 13:13 -0800
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 17:03 -0600
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-31 02:58 +0100
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-30 14:32 -0800
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 17:08 -0600
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-30 07:11 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-30 11:07 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-30 10:56 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-30 22:00 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 17:17 -0600
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-31 12:56 -0800
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-30 14:25 -0800
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-02 00:42 -0600
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mathias Koerber <mathias@koerber.org> - 2016-01-29 17:45 +0800
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 16:42 -0600
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-29 23:25 -0500
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 05:27 +1100
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-01-11 09:03 +0000
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-11 09:06 +0000
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-11 06:27 -0500
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-11 14:01 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-11 09:29 -0800
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 09:58 -0800
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-11 10:29 +0000
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-11 09:45 -0600
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-11 17:06 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-11 18:55 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-11 19:57 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 12:59 -0800
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 09:35 +1100
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-12 10:53 +0000
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-11 17:48 +0000
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 09:54 -0800
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Anonymous <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-11 18:43 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 13:49 -0500
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Anonymous <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-12 01:15 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 06:31 +1100
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 18:52 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 17:33 -0800
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-01-12 10:18 +0100
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-12 10:12 +0100
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-13 04:52 +1100
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-12 20:05 +0100
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-12 18:36 -0600
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2016-01-13 21:27 -0500
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-14 00:15 -0600
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-01-13 02:34 +0000
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-13 14:16 +1100
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-14 00:23 -0600
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 15:14 -0500
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-12 22:07 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-15 19:41 -0600
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-16 23:56 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-12 02:56 -0400
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-12 10:30 +0100
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 15:20 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-13 08:40 +1100
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 05:37 +1100
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 14:10 -0500
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 11:38 -0800
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 06:59 +1100
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-12 08:28 +0000
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? timcaffrey420@gmail.com - 2016-01-11 11:54 -0800
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 11:57 -0800
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 15:29 -0500
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-11 20:46 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-11 19:30 -0800
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-11 02:59 -0800
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 07:44 -0800
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-11 22:39 +0100
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-12 13:24 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-01-12 13:57 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-13 05:12 +1100
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-12 17:19 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-15 19:38 -0600
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-19 08:07 -0800
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-19 15:50 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-13 05:07 +1100
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-12 23:48 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-13 11:57 +1100
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-13 04:28 +0000
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-13 15:47 +1100
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-12 19:57 +0100
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-13 14:13 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-13 15:15 +0000
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-14 13:46 +0000
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:20 +1100
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-13 14:13 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 03:10 +1100
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-13 23:35 -0400
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-14 11:40 -0500
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-14 18:55 +0100
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-15 01:11 -0400
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-15 12:10 -0800
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> - 2016-01-18 08:50 -0700
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-01-18 16:11 +0000
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-18 21:23 +0000
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-18 10:04 -0800
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-18 10:29 -0800
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-14 14:16 -0800
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-15 01:15 -0400
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-13 23:35 -0400
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-11 06:27 -0500
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 06:55 -0500
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-11 14:07 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 18:36 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-12 06:17 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-12 07:15 -0800
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-12 11:09 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-12 07:30 -0800
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-12 07:41 -0800
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-12 18:52 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 11:28 -0500
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 07:24 -0800
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-11 09:51 -0600
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-11 16:04 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 10:18 -0800
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-11 09:49 -0800
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 10:10 -0800
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-11 22:50 +0100
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 06:11 +1100
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-11 22:16 +0100
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 18:21 -0500
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 17:25 -0800
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-11 23:24 -0600
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-12 06:31 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-12 13:42 -0500
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 15:14 -0500
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-12 15:43 -0600
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-13 09:55 +1100
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-12 10:07 +0100
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-12 07:22 -0800
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-12 13:58 -0500
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-12 11:53 -0800
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-12 15:56 -0500
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-12 13:52 -0800
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-13 00:15 +0100
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-12 19:18 -0800
                              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-13 08:29 +0100
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 17:10 -0800
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 11:28 -0500
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 18:32 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 17:07 -0800
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 07:34 -0800
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-11 16:07 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-11 11:48 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-11 20:01 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-11 22:28 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-12 11:03 +0000
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-12 18:52 +0000
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 05:42 +1100
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-11 14:57 +0000
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 07:15 -0800
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-11 16:03 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-11 11:48 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 10:15 -0800
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 13:54 -0500
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 06:41 +1100
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-11 20:03 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-11 13:15 -0600
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 11:55 -0800
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-11 17:12 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-11 19:35 -0800
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 14:03 -0500
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 11:26 -0800
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-11 20:00 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 15:30 -0500
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-11 19:45 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 15:27 -0500
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 13:10 -0800
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 18:15 -0500
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-11 18:02 -0600
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:53 -0500
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-12 00:06 -0500
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-12 14:39 +0000
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 16:01 -0500
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-12 22:07 +0000
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-12 08:21 +0000
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 06:56 -0500
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-12 07:19 +0000
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-12 07:26 -0800
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-12 16:22 +0000
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-12 13:16 -0500
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-13 05:23 +1100
                      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 19:52 -0600
                        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-18 23:22 -0600
                          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 10:14 -0600
                            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-19 15:52 -0500
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-12 13:59 -0500
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-13 23:15 -0400
                    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-14 05:44 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-12 10:56 +0000
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-12 13:49 -0500
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-12 13:24 +0000
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-12 16:18 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-12 14:37 +0000
                  Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-12 07:35 -0800
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-12 08:17 +0000
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-12 13:24 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 11:28 -0500
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-12 17:21 +0000
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-12 18:52 +0000
                Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-01-15 19:44 -0600
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-12 11:31 -0600
            Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-12 14:00 -0500
              Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-12 15:14 -0500
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 06:00 +1100
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-01-11 15:22 +0000
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2016-01-11 15:54 +0000
    Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-11 14:14 -0500
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-11 11:52 -0800
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 07:03 +1100
        Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-11 22:28 +0000
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-12 10:34 +1100
          Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-11 17:59 -0800
      Re: 1976 vs. 2016? Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-12 02:52 +0000

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#156440

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-11 12:59 -0800
Message-ID<f9276ba4-e262-4d2d-928f-60e86b1d7996@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#156431
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 3:00:06 PM UTC-5, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> mausg@wrote:
> 
> > Watching a Gregory Peck Western, the
> > hero has a young girl left with him, so he takes off her clothes, and
> > washes her in the river , Ouch.
> 
> 	Then nobody would see anything wrong in it, he wanted her clean and
> that was it. Problem now is it's the wrong thing to do even if it's for the
> right reason - if a young girl falls down and hurts herself in front of me
> I would not dare to pick her up.

Never saw the movie, but am a little surprised at that action unless
the girl was very little.  Could see it happening if it was boy, indeed
I think that sort of thing was on TV westerns.

Unfortunately, in today's litigous paranoid world, one must be very careful.

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#156444

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-12 09:35 +1100
Message-ID<dfip1kF1p3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156440

<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
news:f9276ba4-e262-4d2d-928f-60e86b1d7996@googlegroups.com...
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 3:00:06 PM UTC-5, Ahem A Rivet's Shot 
> wrote:
>
>> mausg@wrote:
>>
>> > Watching a Gregory Peck Western, the
>> > hero has a young girl left with him, so he takes off her clothes, and
>> > washes her in the river , Ouch.
>>
>> Then nobody would see anything wrong in it, he wanted her clean and
>> that was it. Problem now is it's the wrong thing to do even if it's for 
>> the
>> right reason - if a young girl falls down and hurts herself in front of 
>> me
>> I would not dare to pick her up.
>
> Never saw the movie, but am a little surprised at that action unless
> the girl was very little.  Could see it happening if it was boy, indeed
> I think that sort of thing was on TV westerns.
>
> Unfortunately, in today's litigous paranoid world, one must be very 
> careful.

Not really. I can remember one doco where someone did it with
a tibetan boy who looked like he had never had a proper bath
in his life, in a river on the way to some school or something.
The kid wasn't too impressed but it wasn't clear if that was
because he'd never had a bath in his life, or the river was
fucking cold or he just wasn't too keen on being starkers
in front of the foreigners and the camera crew or what. 

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#156483

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-01-12 10:53 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn99mpm.173.mausg@smaus.org>
In reply to#156440
On 2016-01-11, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 3:00:06 PM UTC-5, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>
>> mausg@wrote:
>> 
>> > Watching a Gregory Peck Western, the
>> > hero has a young girl left with him, so he takes off her clothes, and
>> > washes her in the river , Ouch.
>> 
>> 	Then nobody would see anything wrong in it, he wanted her clean and
>> that was it. Problem now is it's the wrong thing to do even if it's for the
>> right reason - if a young girl falls down and hurts herself in front of me
>> I would not dare to pick her up.
>
> Never saw the movie, but am a little surprised at that action unless
> the girl was very little.  Could see it happening if it was boy, indeed
> I think that sort of thing was on TV westerns.
>
> Unfortunately, in today's litigous paranoid world, one must be very careful.
>

I will look it up on utube today, if I have time.


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#156396

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2016-01-11 17:48 +0000
Message-ID<n70psg12pl9@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#156381
On 2016-01-11, Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote:

> On 1/11/2016 4:29 AM, mausg@mail.com wrote:
>
>> On 2016-01-11, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The other day, TCM aired a movie from 1975.  I noticed some cultural
>>> differences...
>>>
>>> --Adult men and women usually wore a tie/jacket or dress (respectively)
>>> whenever they went out, and of course at work.
>>
>> The tie thing was very important, and still is to a lesser extent,
>> I haave pictures from the late 1940's of a working place, where even
>>   the manual workers wore ties. I have never worn a tie, since I
>> started working with machinery, and realized what a danger a tie is.
>
> Ah yes. In 1972 my then-employer specified that I wear a tie. So I 
> did. After about 3 months of my wearing the same cheap tie every day, 
> they decided that maybe it wasn't absolutely necessary any more.

A PPOE once declared "tacky tie day", presumably in an attempt to build
the morale that the new management team had been systematically destroying.
I found a piece of rope and fashioned it into a noose.

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#156398

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-11 09:54 -0800
Message-ID<0b1e5873-aafc-48f0-b304-092b8f03ae0b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#156381
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:

> Ah yes. In 1972 my then-employer specified that I wear a tie. So I 
> did. After about 3 months of my wearing the same cheap tie every day, 
> they decided that maybe it wasn't absolutely necessary any more.

Back then, when we were in high school and got jobs as clerks, we
didn't wear a necktie. But when we got to college and got student
intern jobs in offices, we were expected to wear ties.

People who worked in blue collar jobs did not wear ties, indeed, as
mentioned, some could not for safety reasons.  Many blue collar
jobs, such as maintenance men or truck drivers, wore uniforms.

Bus drivers and cops wore neckties in the winter, but not in the
summer.  That may still apply to this day.

(One modern touch I dislike is cops wearing baseball caps.  Cops
should wear a uniform cap.)

As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be 
considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
or jacket and tie.

Also, back then, many offices would not allow women to wear
pants to the office, it was dresses or skirts only.  I remember
women complaining loud about that restriction and arguing with
their employers about it.  I recall one day in school all the
women faculty and staff decided to all wear pants in one day.
Likewise, in a hospital, all the female employees decided to
wear pants uniforms.  (For women hospital workers, pants
really made more sense than a dress/skirt).


In college, as seniors began to interview for career jobs, they
also began to shave and cut their busy haircuts to a more
conservative look.

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#156409

FromAnonymous <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-01-11 18:43 +0000
Message-ID<dfibeiFqvjvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156398
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
> 
>> Ah yes. In 1972 my then-employer specified that I wear a tie. So I 
>> did. After about 3 months of my wearing the same cheap tie every day, 
>> they decided that maybe it wasn't absolutely necessary any more.
> 
> Back then, when we were in high school and got jobs as clerks, we
> didn't wear a necktie. But when we got to college and got student
> intern jobs in offices, we were expected to wear ties.
> 
> People who worked in blue collar jobs did not wear ties, indeed, as
> mentioned, some could not for safety reasons.  Many blue collar
> jobs, such as maintenance men or truck drivers, wore uniforms.
> 
> Bus drivers and cops wore neckties in the winter, but not in the
> summer.  That may still apply to this day.
> 
> (One modern touch I dislike is cops wearing baseball caps.  Cops
> should wear a uniform cap.)
> 
> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be 
> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
> a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
> or jacket and tie.

A university classmate set a cat among the pigeons by turning up for
his new job at the local IBM plant wearing a pink shirt and with a copy
of the Worker, a communist newspaper, under his arm (in 1970).

-- 
Bill Findlay

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#156411

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2016-01-11 13:49 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1601111349140.14582@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#156409
On Mon, 11 Jan 2016, Anonymous wrote:

> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
>>
>>> Ah yes. In 1972 my then-employer specified that I wear a tie. So I
>>> did. After about 3 months of my wearing the same cheap tie every day,
>>> they decided that maybe it wasn't absolutely necessary any more.
>>
>> Back then, when we were in high school and got jobs as clerks, we
>> didn't wear a necktie. But when we got to college and got student
>> intern jobs in offices, we were expected to wear ties.
>>
>> People who worked in blue collar jobs did not wear ties, indeed, as
>> mentioned, some could not for safety reasons.  Many blue collar
>> jobs, such as maintenance men or truck drivers, wore uniforms.
>>
>> Bus drivers and cops wore neckties in the winter, but not in the
>> summer.  That may still apply to this day.
>>
>> (One modern touch I dislike is cops wearing baseball caps.  Cops
>> should wear a uniform cap.)
>>
>> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be
>> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
>> a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
>> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
>> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
>> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
>> or jacket and tie.
>
> A university classmate set a cat among the pigeons by turning up for
> his new job at the local IBM plant wearing a pink shirt and with a copy
> of the Worker, a communist newspaper, under his arm (in 1970).
>
He was pretending to be one of those "commie pinkos"?

   Michael

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#156460

FromAnonymous <no_email@invalid.invalid>
Date2016-01-12 01:15 +0000
Message-ID<dfj2daF2677U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156411
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2016, Anonymous wrote:
> 
>> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ah yes. In 1972 my then-employer specified that I wear a tie. So I
>>>> did. After about 3 months of my wearing the same cheap tie every day,
>>>> they decided that maybe it wasn't absolutely necessary any more.
>>> 
>>> Back then, when we were in high school and got jobs as clerks, we
>>> didn't wear a necktie. But when we got to college and got student
>>> intern jobs in offices, we were expected to wear ties.
>>> 
>>> People who worked in blue collar jobs did not wear ties, indeed, as
>>> mentioned, some could not for safety reasons.  Many blue collar
>>> jobs, such as maintenance men or truck drivers, wore uniforms.
>>> 
>>> Bus drivers and cops wore neckties in the winter, but not in the
>>> summer.  That may still apply to this day.
>>> 
>>> (One modern touch I dislike is cops wearing baseball caps.  Cops
>>> should wear a uniform cap.)
>>> 
>>> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be
>>> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
>>> a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
>>> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
>>> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
>>> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
>>> or jacket and tie.
>> 
>> A university classmate set a cat among the pigeons by turning up for
>> his new job at the local IBM plant wearing a pink shirt and with a copy
>> of the Worker, a communist newspaper, under his arm (in 1970).
>> 
> He was pretending to be one of those "commie pinkos"?

Not quite.  He _was_ one of those commie pinkos.

-- 
Bill Findlay

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#156422

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-12 06:31 +1100
Message-ID<dfie7vFro51U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156398

<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
news:0b1e5873-aafc-48f0-b304-092b8f03ae0b@googlegroups.com...
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
>
>> Ah yes. In 1972 my then-employer specified that I wear a tie. So I
>> did. After about 3 months of my wearing the same cheap tie every day,
>> they decided that maybe it wasn't absolutely necessary any more.
>
> Back then, when we were in high school and got jobs as clerks, we
> didn't wear a necktie. But when we got to college and got student
> intern jobs in offices, we were expected to wear ties.
>
> People who worked in blue collar jobs did not wear ties, indeed, as
> mentioned, some could not for safety reasons.  Many blue collar
> jobs, such as maintenance men or truck drivers, wore uniforms.
>
> Bus drivers and cops wore neckties in the winter, but not in the
> summer.  That may still apply to this day.

Not here it doesn't. I can't remember the last time I saw a cop
wearing a tie and the bus driver who drove the bus a couple
of weeks ago didn't either. Neither did the train driver.

> (One modern touch I dislike is cops wearing baseball caps.
> Cops should wear a uniform cap.)

Caps are a lot more practical and I can't see why they have
to wear any form of head gear at all and few of ours do.

> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be
> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
> a few years earlier.

I don't buy that with the hippies of the 60s.

Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
> or jacket and tie.

The only time I have seen that recently is with the courts where
one of the legal reps was flayed by the magistrate for wearing
joggers.

> Also, back then, many offices would not allow women to wear
> pants to the office, it was dresses or skirts only.  I remember
> women complaining loud about that restriction and arguing with
> their employers about it.  I recall one day in school all the
> women faculty and staff decided to all wear pants in one day.
> Likewise, in a hospital, all the female employees decided to
> wear pants uniforms.  (For women hospital workers, pants
> really made more sense than a dress/skirt).

But even then plenty wore scrubs after operations when
talking to the relatives etc.

> In college, as seniors began to interview for career jobs, they
> also began to shave and cut their busy haircuts to a more
> conservative look.

Don't remember anyone doing that
here and I left in the 60s, not the 70s 

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#156455

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-11 18:52 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.30fe0a358999c680989dea@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156398
In article <0b1e5873-aafc-48f0-b304-092b8f03ae0b@googlegroups.com>, 
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
> 
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
> 
> > Ah yes. In 1972 my then-employer specified that I wear a tie. So I 
> > did. After about 3 months of my wearing the same cheap tie every day, 
> > they decided that maybe it wasn't absolutely necessary any more.
> 
> Back then, when we were in high school and got jobs as clerks, we
> didn't wear a necktie. But when we got to college and got student
> intern jobs in offices, we were expected to wear ties.
> 
> People who worked in blue collar jobs did not wear ties, indeed, as
> mentioned, some could not for safety reasons.  Many blue collar
> jobs, such as maintenance men or truck drivers, wore uniforms.

Foremen though had to wear ties, presumably so that one could tell they 
were Foremen.
> 
> Bus drivers and cops wore neckties in the winter, but not in the
> summer.  That may still apply to this day.

The Navy white uniforms cannot be worn with a tie--the trop whites don't 
have a collar button and the dress whites button all the way up.
 
> (One modern touch I dislike is cops wearing baseball caps.  Cops
> should wear a uniform cap.)
> 
> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be 
> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
> a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
> or jacket and tie.

I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always 
thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was 
tearing a line printer or copier apart.
 
> Also, back then, many offices would not allow women to wear
> pants to the office, it was dresses or skirts only.  I remember
> women complaining loud about that restriction and arguing with
> their employers about it.  I recall one day in school all the
> women faculty and staff decided to all wear pants in one day.
> Likewise, in a hospital, all the female employees decided to
> wear pants uniforms.  (For women hospital workers, pants
> really made more sense than a dress/skirt).

I remember in my high school girls were allowed to wear shorts for a 
while, but the sight of teen aged girls sitting with their legs spread 
was apparently too much for one of the teachers and the principal 
changed the dress code, leaving the students wondering who the perv was 
and why he didn't get fired.

> In college, as seniors began to interview for career jobs, they
> also began to shave and cut their busy haircuts to a more
> conservative look.

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#156462

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-01-11 17:33 -0800
Message-ID<debce63a-62ca-48fb-96b0-1370f24bbe82@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#156455
On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:46:11 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:

> I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always 
> thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was 
> tearing a line printer or copier apart.

Good question.  Yes, it was certainly foolish to have a man in good
clothes tear apart mechanical equipment.  They had to use lubricants
and cleaning solutions, all of which were messy.

I also thought it was dangerous to have a man wear a necktie working
on mechanical equipment.  Most places I worked would prohibit computer
operators form wearing a tie for that very reason.  (A few older IBM
guys wore bow-ties)

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#156481

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid>
Date2016-01-12 10:18 +0100
Message-ID<r0temc-s06.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#156462
In article <debce63a-62ca-48fb-96b0-1370f24bbe82@googlegroups.com>,
 <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 6:46:11 PM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always 
>> thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was 
>> tearing a line printer or copier apart.
>
>Good question.  Yes, it was certainly foolish to have a man in good
>clothes tear apart mechanical equipment.  They had to use lubricants
>and cleaning solutions, all of which were messy.
>
>I also thought it was dangerous to have a man wear a necktie working
>on mechanical equipment.  Most places I worked would prohibit computer
>operators form wearing a tie for that very reason.  (A few older IBM
>guys wore bow-ties)

Or you could use the breakaway ones that police, busdrivers etc use, 
where the neck attchnent is just a very thin and easily breakable
string. If it gets wedged it just comes right off.

-- mrr




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#156482

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2016-01-12 10:12 +0100
Message-ID<9ksemc-s06.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#156455
In article <MPG.30fe0a358999c680989dea@news.eternal-september.org>,
J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>In article <0b1e5873-aafc-48f0-b304-092b8f03ae0b@googlegroups.com>, 
>hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>> 
>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
>> 

>> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be 
>> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
>> a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
>> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
>> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
>> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
>> or jacket and tie.
>
>I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always 
>thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was 
>tearing a line printer or copier apart.

That is what lab coats were for. You were expected to doff the
jacket and don a lab coat when doing dirty work. We had license
to wear jeans/tshirt when doing such work, but were expected to
change before and after.
 
>> Also, back then, many offices would not allow women to wear
>> pants to the office, it was dresses or skirts only.  I remember
>> women complaining loud about that restriction and arguing with
>> their employers about it.  I recall one day in school all the
>> women faculty and staff decided to all wear pants in one day.
>> Likewise, in a hospital, all the female employees decided to
>> wear pants uniforms.  (For women hospital workers, pants
>> really made more sense than a dress/skirt).
>
>I remember in my high school girls were allowed to wear shorts for a 
>while, but the sight of teen aged girls sitting with their legs spread 
>was apparently too much for one of the teachers and the principal 
>changed the dress code, leaving the students wondering who the perv was 
>and why he didn't get fired.
>
>> In college, as seniors began to interview for career jobs, they
>> also began to shave and cut their busy haircuts to a more
>> conservative look.

-- mrr

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#156519

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-13 04:52 +1100
Message-ID<dfksqcFg5l5U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156482

"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
news:9ksemc-s06.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
> In article <MPG.30fe0a358999c680989dea@news.eternal-september.org>,
> J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>In article <0b1e5873-aafc-48f0-b304-092b8f03ae0b@googlegroups.com>,
>>hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
>>>
>
>>> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be
>>> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
>>> a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
>>> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
>>> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
>>> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
>>> or jacket and tie.
>>
>>I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always
>>thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was
>>tearing a line printer or copier apart.
>
> That is what lab coats were for. You were expected to doff the
> jacket and don a lab coat when doing dirty work.

Fark, we never had anything like that. No one in the real labs
ever had a jacket to doff, even the staff, of which I was one.
The professor was a silly senile old fart and likely did wear
a jacket but I don’t recall any of the other staff did.

We had license
> to wear jeans/tshirt when doing such work, but were expected to
> change before and after.

Never had anything like that either and never saw any of
the DEC field service monkeys ever do anything like that.

Don’t recall seeing any of the IBM or CDC monkeys so its
not too clear what they did but I bet they didn’t either.

>>> Also, back then, many offices would not allow women to wear
>>> pants to the office, it was dresses or skirts only.  I remember
>>> women complaining loud about that restriction and arguing with
>>> their employers about it.  I recall one day in school all the
>>> women faculty and staff decided to all wear pants in one day.
>>> Likewise, in a hospital, all the female employees decided to
>>> wear pants uniforms.  (For women hospital workers, pants
>>> really made more sense than a dress/skirt).
>>
>>I remember in my high school girls were allowed to wear shorts for a
>>while, but the sight of teen aged girls sitting with their legs spread
>>was apparently too much for one of the teachers and the principal
>>changed the dress code, leaving the students wondering who the perv was
>>and why he didn't get fired.
>>
>>> In college, as seniors began to interview for career jobs, they
>>> also began to shave and cut their busy haircuts to a more
>>> conservative look.
 

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#156536

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2016-01-12 20:05 +0100
Message-ID<5cvfmc-3d8.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#156519
In article <dfksqcFg5l5U1@mid.individual.net>, jack <jkl8976@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:9ksemc-s06.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>> In article <MPG.30fe0a358999c680989dea@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>In article <0b1e5873-aafc-48f0-b304-092b8f03ae0b@googlegroups.com>,
>>>hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>>> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be
>>>> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
>>>> a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
>>>> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
>>>> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
>>>> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
>>>> or jacket and tie.
>>>
>>>I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always
>>>thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was
>>>tearing a line printer or copier apart.
>>
>> That is what lab coats were for. You were expected to doff the
>> jacket and don a lab coat when doing dirty work.
>
>Fark, we never had anything like that. No one in the real labs
>ever had a jacket to doff, even the staff, of which I was one.
>The professor was a silly senile old fart and likely did wear
>a jacket but I don’t recall any of the other staff did.
>
>We had license
>> to wear jeans/tshirt when doing such work, but were expected to
>> change before and after.
>
>Never had anything like that either and never saw any of
>the DEC field service monkeys ever do anything like that.
>
>Don’t recall seeing any of the IBM or CDC monkeys so its
>not too clear what they did but I bet they didn’t either.

They were the ones in lab coats. I can confirm this from observation
of trade show installation in the 1980s. The true IBMers showed up
impeccable as always, and changed shoes and wore a lab coat when
they got to the rough and dirty bits; like pulling (heavy) cable
in old conduits.

This may have changed with Gerstner(sp?).

-- mrr

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#156565

FromJon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>
Date2016-01-12 18:36 -0600
Message-ID<etidnXxr0IdkBgjLnZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#156519
>>>I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always
>>>thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was
>>>tearing a line printer or copier apart.

Yes, they generally DID wear suits.  When grunt work was necessary, they 
could take off the jacket.  I think the CE room did have a lab coat for 
serious digging into printers, card readers, etc.  Cleaning the train on a 
1403 printer involved dribbling solvent into the track and starting the 
motor, and black solvent would spray all over the room.  The rest of the 
computer room staff would head to the other end of the machine room while 
this was going on, to avoid the spray and the fumes, which could get pretty 
strong.

Jon

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#156620

From"Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net>
Date2016-01-13 21:27 -0500
Message-ID<n7716j02l94@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#156565
"Jon Elson" <elson@pico-systems.com> wrote:

>>>>I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always
>>>>thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was
>>>>tearing a line printer or copier apart.

Crazy, maybe, but that's the way it was.

'way back when, the branch office that serviced my account was like that 
until one day the branch office manager was promoted to a slot up in 
Galactic Headquarters.  A temporary BO manager was brought in but it was 
several months before a new permanent manager showed up, and in the meantime 
the dress code had gone from rigid to ... um, let's just say "colorful."  As 
best I can remember literally *none* of the customers serviced by the BO had 
any problems with the disappearance of the white shirt/dark suit dress code.

> Yes, they generally DID wear suits.  When grunt work was necessary, they
> could take off the jacket.  I think the CE room did have a lab coat for
> serious digging into printers, card readers, etc.

I don't recall ever seeing a CE in a lab coat, although when working on 
things like the hydraulic motor in the 1403 printer they did take off their 
coat and rolled up the sleeves.

>                                                    Cleaning the train on a
> 1403 printer involved dribbling solvent into the track and starting the
> motor, and black solvent would spray all over the room.  The rest of the
> computer room staff would head to the other end of the machine room while
> this was going on, to avoid the spray and the fumes, which could get 
> pretty
> strong.

H'mmm...as both an engineer and a past data center manager, if a CE or 
operator did that the individual would be at risk of being asked to leave 
and not return.  There would also be a careful discussion with the 
operations manager, who would be asked to explain why the trains were not 
cleaned using the 3M train cleaning material (sheets on pinfeed, coated with 
a very sticky velvet-like material and nicknamed "pink fuzzy stuff").  Mount 
the pink fuzzy stuff, remove the ribbon, then run a program that would slam 
hammers against all of the glyphs on the train; the dirt and such on the 
glyphs would adhere to the sticky surface of the paper.

And if a train became significantly contaminated, or needed to be cleaned to 
print a special job that the front office wanted to be picture-perfect, it 
wasn't a particularly long or difficult task to remove the slugs, wipe them 
down with solvent, and replace them in the train after wiping the raceway. 
Dirty, yes (I recall doing that a couple of times) but it would not result 
in splattering grime and solvent all over the place.

Joe 

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#156630

FromJon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>
Date2016-01-14 00:15 -0600
Message-ID<YLWdnXbkfPpmoQrLnZ2dnUU7-LWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#156620
Joe Morris wrote:

> "Jon Elson" <elson@pico-systems.com> wrote:

>>                                                    Cleaning the train on
>>                                                    a
>> 1403 printer involved dribbling solvent into the track and starting the
>> motor, and black solvent would spray all over the room.  The rest of the
>> computer room staff would head to the other end of the machine room while
>> this was going on, to avoid the spray and the fumes, which could get
>> pretty
>> strong.
> 
> H'mmm...as both an engineer and a past data center manager, if a CE or
> operator did that the individual would be at risk of being asked to leave
> and not return.  There would also be a careful discussion with the
> operations manager, who would be asked to explain why the trains were not
> cleaned using the 3M train cleaning material (sheets on pinfeed, coated
> with
> a very sticky velvet-like material and nicknamed "pink fuzzy stuff"). 
> Mount the pink fuzzy stuff, remove the ribbon, then run a program that
> would slam hammers against all of the glyphs on the train; the dirt and
> such on the glyphs would adhere to the sticky surface of the paper.
> 
We had the cleaning forms, but maybe just couldn't be bothered to use them 
enough.  Anyway, sometimes the train would bind up and trip the breaker, and 
then you had to get IBM in to fix it.
> And if a train became significantly contaminated, or needed to be cleaned
> to print a special job that the front office wanted to be picture-perfect,
> it wasn't a particularly long or difficult task to remove the slugs, wipe
> them down with solvent, and replace them in the train after wiping the
> raceway. Dirty, yes (I recall doing that a couple of times) but it would
> not result in splattering grime and solvent all over the place.
I guess the CE's who tended to our facilities were afraid of scrambling the 
slugs and then having to diagnose which ones were misplaced.  I NEVER saw 
them disassemble a train.  (But, I didn't work in the machine room, so could 
have missed that.  I did go in there a lot and got to see a lot of 
interesting stuff.)

I probably am overstating the mess they made, but I definitely did watch a 
CE working on a 1403, using solvent and rags, ON the printer, to unjam a 
train.  He'd dribble some solvent in the train, then hold the rag in a 
certain spot and flip the breaker on, then twist the hand knob to try to get 
it to spin under power.  Repeat until he got it to stay running for at least 
a few seconds.  The odor of the solvent was quite noticeable from ten feet 
away, smelled just like the stuff in old mimeograph machines.

I'm pretty sure the operators were never doing this sort of repair.

Jon

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#156568

Frompechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter)
Date2016-01-13 02:34 +0000
Message-ID<n74d3i$9jc$1@pechter.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156519
In article <dfksqcFg5l5U1@mid.individual.net>, jack <jkl8976@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:9ksemc-s06.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>> In article <MPG.30fe0a358999c680989dea@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>In article <0b1e5873-aafc-48f0-b304-092b8f03ae0b@googlegroups.com>,
>>>hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>>> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be
>>>> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
>>>> a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
>>>> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
>>>> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
>>>> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
>>>> or jacket and tie.
>>>
>>>I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always
>>>thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was
>>>tearing a line printer or copier apart.
>>

I believe they would reimburse it.  I know at DEC we were able to remove
the tie and coat when working on printers and screwing around with ribbons on 
printers and DECwriters.

>> That is what lab coats were for. You were expected to doff the
>> jacket and don a lab coat when doing dirty work.
>

Never had one in any Field Service spots.  Jacket and tie were required but by
the mid-80s we could get by with just the tie.  Which came off when working
on printers.

>Fark, we never had anything like that. No one in the real labs
>ever had a jacket to doff, even the staff, of which I was one.
>The professor was a silly senile old fart and likely did wear
>a jacket but I don’t recall any of the other staff did.
>
>We had license
>> to wear jeans/tshirt when doing such work, but were expected to
>> change before and after.
>
>Never had anything like that either and never saw any of
>the DEC field service monkeys ever do anything like that.

The only guys with that kind of stuff was the DEC "In House" Field Service
who didn't wear jackets and just did the lab coat.

>
>Don’t recall seeing any of the IBM or CDC monkeys so its
>not too clear what they did but I bet they didn’t either.

Pretty much the same as DEC for IBM -- except they were held to higher
dress standards.  My blue shirt might have passed at IBM -- but I don't
think the pink or salmon stuff would've been accepted.

>
>>>> Also, back then, many offices would not allow women to wear
>>>> pants to the office, it was dresses or skirts only.  I remember
>>>> women complaining loud about that restriction and arguing with
>>>> their employers about it.  I recall one day in school all the
>>>> women faculty and staff decided to all wear pants in one day.
>>>> Likewise, in a hospital, all the female employees decided to
>>>> wear pants uniforms.  (For women hospital workers, pants
>>>> really made more sense than a dress/skirt).
>>>
>>>I remember in my high school girls were allowed to wear shorts for a
>>>while, but the sight of teen aged girls sitting with their legs spread
>>>was apparently too much for one of the teachers and the principal
>>>changed the dress code, leaving the students wondering who the perv was
>>>and why he didn't get fired.
>>>
>>>> In college, as seniors began to interview for career jobs, they
>>>> also began to shave and cut their busy haircuts to a more
>>>> conservative look.

DEC was pretty easygoing on facial hair and hair length.  If you did your job
they really didn't seem to care -- as long as you were need and reasonably well
groomed.

Bill
-- 
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#156573

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-13 14:16 +1100
Message-ID<dfltrkFo4i4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156568

"William Pechter" <pechter@pechter.dyndns.org> wrote in message 
news:n74d3i$9jc$1@pechter.eternal-september.org...
> In article <dfksqcFg5l5U1@mid.individual.net>, jack <jkl8976@nospam.com> 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:9ksemc-s06.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>>> In article <MPG.30fe0a358999c680989dea@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>In article <0b1e5873-aafc-48f0-b304-092b8f03ae0b@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 10:45:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Garland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> As mentioned, in the film, the men wore outfits that might be
>>>>> considered 'loud' or gaudy by today's standards, or those of just
>>>>> a few years earlier.  Anyway, I want to point out that while lots
>>>>> of men did dress that way in 1975, there were some employers who
>>>>> were conservative (like IBM), and followed a similar dress code--
>>>>> white shirts, not colored or patterned, and a conservative suit
>>>>> or jacket and tie.
>>>>
>>>>I wonder if IBM paid the cleaning bill for those suits.  I always
>>>>thought it was crazy for some guy to be wearing a suit while he was
>>>>tearing a line printer or copier apart.
>>>
>
> I believe they would reimburse it.  I know at DEC we were able to remove
> the tie and coat when working on printers and screwing around with ribbons 
> on
> printers and DECwriters.
>
>>> That is what lab coats were for. You were expected to doff the
>>> jacket and don a lab coat when doing dirty work.
>>
>
> Never had one in any Field Service spots.  Jacket and tie were required 
> but by
> the mid-80s we could get by with just the tie.  Which came off when 
> working
> on printers.
>
>>Fark, we never had anything like that. No one in the real labs
>>ever had a jacket to doff, even the staff, of which I was one.
>>The professor was a silly senile old fart and likely did wear
>>a jacket but I don’t recall any of the other staff did.
>>
>>We had license
>>> to wear jeans/tshirt when doing such work, but were expected to
>>> change before and after.
>>
>>Never had anything like that either and never saw any of
>>the DEC field service monkeys ever do anything like that.

> The only guys with that kind of stuff was the DEC "In House"
> Field Service who didn't wear jackets and just did the lab coat.

Not here. They never had jackets here or lab
coats either. In the late 60s and very early 70s.

>>Don’t recall seeing any of the IBM or CDC monkeys so its
>>not too clear what they did but I bet they didn’t either.
>
> Pretty much the same as DEC for IBM -- except they were held to higher
> dress standards.  My blue shirt might have passed at IBM -- but I don't
> think the pink or salmon stuff would've been accepted.
>
>>
>>>>> Also, back then, many offices would not allow women to wear
>>>>> pants to the office, it was dresses or skirts only.  I remember
>>>>> women complaining loud about that restriction and arguing with
>>>>> their employers about it.  I recall one day in school all the
>>>>> women faculty and staff decided to all wear pants in one day.
>>>>> Likewise, in a hospital, all the female employees decided to
>>>>> wear pants uniforms.  (For women hospital workers, pants
>>>>> really made more sense than a dress/skirt).
>>>>
>>>>I remember in my high school girls were allowed to wear shorts for a
>>>>while, but the sight of teen aged girls sitting with their legs spread
>>>>was apparently too much for one of the teachers and the principal
>>>>changed the dress code, leaving the students wondering who the perv was
>>>>and why he didn't get fired.
>>>>
>>>>> In college, as seniors began to interview for career jobs, they
>>>>> also began to shave and cut their busy haircuts to a more
>>>>> conservative look.
>
> DEC was pretty easygoing on facial hair and hair length.  If you did your 
> job
> they really didn't seem to care -- as long as you were need and reasonably 
> well
> groomed.
 

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