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1970--protesters seize computer center

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First post2015-12-07 10:48 -0800
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  1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-07 10:48 -0800
    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-07 23:49 -0500
      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-07 22:38 -0800
        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-12-08 10:23 +0000
        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-08 11:55 -0500
          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-12-08 17:57 +0000
            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-08 10:16 -0800
            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-08 14:18 -0500
              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-08 16:58 -0600
                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-08 23:10 -0500
                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-09 07:15 +0000
          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-08 14:14 -0500
            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-08 12:02 -0800
              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-12-09 01:07 +0000
                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-12-09 11:18 +0000
                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-12-09 08:47 -0600
                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:17 -0600
                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-09 16:53 +0000
                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-09 17:22 +0000
                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-12-09 17:39 +0000
                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-09 18:21 +0000
                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-10 04:56 +0000
                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 14:06 -0600
                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-09 12:20 -0800
                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 19:32 -0600
                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-12-09 21:53 -0600
                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-10 15:23 -0500
                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 23:03 -0500
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-11 22:56 +0000
                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-11 07:17 -0800
                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-09 20:39 +0000
                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-09 18:27 +0000
                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-09 11:04 -0800
                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-12-09 16:06 -0500
                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-10 10:36 +0000
                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-10 07:53 -0800
                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-10 16:27 +0000
                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-10 19:11 +0000
                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 17:58 -0600
                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-11 01:04 +0000
                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 15:18 -0600
                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-11 07:16 -0800
                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-12-11 15:21 +0100
                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-09 17:47 -0500
                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-12-09 22:17 -0600
                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Ranger" <r5432@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 17:20 +1100
                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-12-11 08:25 -0600
                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-12-10 01:41 -0400
                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-10 10:44 +0000
                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 17:51 -0600
                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-12-10 16:45 -0600
                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-11 07:26 -0800
                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-12-11 14:29 -0600
                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-12-11 15:31 +0100
                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-12 08:11 -0500
                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-12 16:58 +0000
                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-12 11:32 -0800
                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-13 15:50 +0000
                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 10:46 -0500
                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-03 16:23 +0000
                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-03 17:12 -0500
                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 20:36 -0500
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-04 06:13 +0000
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-04 10:14 -0500
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 09:58 -0800
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 21:28 -0500
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-04 21:16 -0600
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:16 -0500
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 12:51 -0600
                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-03 20:20 -0800
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-04 06:48 +0000
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-04 10:17 -0500
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 21:29 -0500
                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 09:51 -0800
                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-04 17:56 +0000
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-04 19:04 +0000
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 13:30 -0800
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-04 22:37 +0000
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 12:24 -0600
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 21:30 -0500
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 05:02 +0000
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:19 -0500
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 10:22 +0000
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:38 -0500
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:19 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:35 -0500
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-05 16:07 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-06 07:49 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 11:26 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 12:36 -0600
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 17:52 -0500
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 17:00 -0600
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:44 +1100
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-01-07 23:56 -0400
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-08 07:33 +0000
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 06:37 -0500
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-08 17:32 +0000
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 20:42 +1100
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-08 11:03 +0000
                                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-09 06:14 +1100
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 06:52 -0500
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:48 -0800
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 18:50 -0500
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-07 10:49 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 12:51 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 12:40 -0600
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 11:23 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:43 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:56 -0500
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 19:01 -0600
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 09:40 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 06:54 -0500
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 10:12 -0800
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 20:38 -0500
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-05 22:11 -0800
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:28 -0500
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 11:35 +0000
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-09 02:00 -0800
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 05:36 -0500
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-09 11:48 +0000
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-09 20:45 -0800
                                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 05:46 -0500
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:37 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 08:16 -0800
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-06 18:20 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-05 14:39 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 12:46 -0600
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-05 12:17 -0800
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 20:23 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-05 12:50 -0800
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-05 13:02 -0800
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 22:17 +0000
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-06 15:02 +0000
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-06 10:53 -0800
                                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-07 14:54 +0000
                                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-07 09:58 -0800
                                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-08 14:50 +0000
                                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 06:03 +1100
                                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-08 14:50 +0000
                                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 09:44 +1100
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:14 +1100
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 14:56 +1100
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-07 20:22 +0100
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 15:19 +1100
                                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-08 10:42 +0100
                                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-08 10:45 +0000
                                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-08 16:08 +0000
                                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-09 05:29 +1100
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-05 16:39 -0500
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:18 +0000
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-06 18:20 +0000
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:28 -0800
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-06 13:14 -0500
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-07 14:54 +0000
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 20:02 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 14:30 +1100
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-06 08:16 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 11:33 +0000
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:57 -0500
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 13:43 +0000
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 15:20 +0000
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 16:14 +0000
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 19:59 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 18:52 -0600
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-06 08:28 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:33 -0500
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 09:56 -0800
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-07 08:25 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 06:54 -0500
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-06 08:06 -0600
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-07 08:33 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 08:24 -0800
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 16:38 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 22:25 -0600
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:28 -0500
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-06 15:04 -0600
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 19:22 -0500
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 07:46 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:29 -0500
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:33 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 10:23 -0500
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 08:10 -0800
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 12:29 -0600
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 18:50 +0000
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-05 19:11 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 19:20 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-05 20:02 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 20:12 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-05 20:39 +0000
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:28 +0000
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 18:00 -0500
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:10 +0000
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:49 +1100
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-05 16:51 -0500
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:36 -0800
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 13:24 +1100
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 13:52 -0600
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 19:54 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 21:30 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 16:22 -0600
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 07:51 +0000
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:31 -0500
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 11:44 +0000
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 06:54 -0500
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 13:50 +0000
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 19:13 -0500
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:16 +0000
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 10:23 -0500
                                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 15:59 +0000
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-06 08:25 -0600
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 14:39 +0000
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-06 09:09 -0600
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 10:09 -0800
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 09:49 -0800
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 18:07 +0000
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:47 -0800
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-06 11:01 -0800
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:30 +1100
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:06 +1100
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-07 20:46 +0100
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 15:44 +1100
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-08 10:49 +0100
                                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-09 05:48 +1100
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-06 06:21 -0800
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 13:21 +1100
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 13:05 +1100
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 21:15 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:30 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-07 05:23 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 14:57 +1100
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-05 16:46 -0500
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:19 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 14:42 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 16:01 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-06 13:05 -0500
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-07 03:42 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-07 07:45 +0000
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-07 08:30 -0800
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-07 09:55 -0800
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-07 17:01 -0500
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-07 09:52 -0800
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-11 12:34 -0500
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-11 10:22 -0800
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 16:25 -0600
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-05 23:01 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 17:14 -0600
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 23:56 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 07:57 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 11:14 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 06:54 -0500
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 12:11 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 11:46 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-06 11:39 -0500
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:20 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-06 14:46 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:32 +1100
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-07 11:33 -0600
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 06:11 +1100
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-07 13:28 -0600
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 15:30 +1100
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 17:57 -0500
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 17:12 -0600
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 18:55 -0500
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:59 -0800
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 18:58 -0500
                                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-07 12:04 -0500
                                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 18:04 -0500
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 06:55 -0500
                                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 06:37 -0500
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 23:56 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:59 +1100
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 20:45 -0500
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-06 04:09 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 08:05 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:38 +1100
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 16:09 -0500
                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-04 18:10 +0000
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 11:21 -0800
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-04 20:38 +0000
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 16:14 -0500
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-04 21:40 +0000
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-04 21:25 -0600
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 10:24 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:44 -0500
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:21 +0000
                                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:36 -0500
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 18:52 -0500
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 13:32 -0800
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 04:27 +0000
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-04 15:03 -0600
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 16:14 -0500
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 13:34 -0800
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-04 16:53 -0500
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-04 18:12 -0600
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-04 21:38 +0000
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 21:35 -0500
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 10:23 +0000
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:43 -0500
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:20 +0000
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 11:20 +0000
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:43 +0000
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 13:40 +0000
                                              Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 16:09 +0000
                                                Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 17:09 +0000
                                          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 07:02 -0500
                                            Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 13:30 +0000
                                        Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-05 09:17 -0500
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 18:52 -0500
                                  Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 12:42 -0600
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 18:53 +0000
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
                                    Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 21:19 +0000
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:40 +0000
                                      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-05 21:50 +0000
          Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-12-08 21:25 +0100
      Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-08 11:55 -0500

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#155939

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2016-01-05 05:02 +0000
Message-ID<20160105000414@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#155929
On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> So you deprive them of transportation and now they lose the crummy job 
> that they do have.  Big help _you_ are.

_You_ are free to help them with your own time, effort, and money.

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#155943

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-05 05:19 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.30f562d752f6921b989d93@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#155939
In article <20160105000414@news.eternal-september.org>, 
rogblake@iname.invalid says...
> 
> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So you deprive them of transportation and now they lose the crummy job 
> > that they do have.  Big help _you_ are.
> 
> _You_ are free to help them with your own time, effort, and money.

So let's see, somebody has a car, the state prevents him from using it, 
and now it's my responsibility to drive him to work.  You are an example 
of why we have so much poverty in the US--you have somebody who's barely 
hanging on and your solution is to push him over the edge.

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#155944

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2016-01-05 10:22 +0000
Message-ID<df1jr9Fi6vtU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#155943
On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <20160105000414@news.eternal-september.org>, 
> rogblake@iname.invalid says...
>> 
>> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > So you deprive them of transportation and now they lose the crummy job 
>> > that they do have.  Big help _you_ are.
>> 
>> _You_ are free to help them with your own time, effort, and money.
>
> So let's see, somebody has a car, the state prevents him from using it, 
> and now it's my responsibility to drive him to work.  You are an example 
> of why we have so much poverty in the US--you have somebody who's barely 
> hanging on and your solution is to push him over the edge.

So, smartarse, what's your solution?


-- 
Today is Setting Orange, the 5th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3182
Celebrate Mungday
                  I don't have an attitude problem.
    If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.

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#155947

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-05 05:38 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.30f5671e474c0efe989d94@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#155944
In article <df1jr9Fi6vtU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid 
says...
> 
> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <20160105000414@news.eternal-september.org>, 
> > rogblake@iname.invalid says...
> >> 
> >> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > So you deprive them of transportation and now they lose the crummy job 
> >> > that they do have.  Big help _you_ are.
> >> 
> >> _You_ are free to help them with your own time, effort, and money.
> >
> > So let's see, somebody has a car, the state prevents him from using it, 
> > and now it's my responsibility to drive him to work.  You are an example 
> > of why we have so much poverty in the US--you have somebody who's barely 
> > hanging on and your solution is to push him over the edge.
> 
> So, smartarse, what's your solution?

Don't prevent him from using his car.

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#155951

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2016-01-05 11:19 +0000
Message-ID<df1n5iFi6vtU13@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#155947
On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <df1jr9Fi6vtU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid 
> says...
>> 
>> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <20160105000414@news.eternal-september.org>, 
>> > rogblake@iname.invalid says...
>> >> 
>> >> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > So you deprive them of transportation and now they lose the crummy job 
>> >> > that they do have.  Big help _you_ are.
>> >> 
>> >> _You_ are free to help them with your own time, effort, and money.
>> >
>> > So let's see, somebody has a car, the state prevents him from using it, 
>> > and now it's my responsibility to drive him to work.  You are an example 
>> > of why we have so much poverty in the US--you have somebody who's barely 
>> > hanging on and your solution is to push him over the edge.
>> 
>> So, smartarse, what's your solution?
>
> Don't prevent him from using his car.

So you're happy to share the roads with untested heaps of scrap
with no insurance? You're an idiot.


-- 
Today is Setting Orange, the 5th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3182
Celebrate Mungday
                  I don't have an attitude problem.
    If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.

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#155954

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-05 06:35 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.30f574937f0bdda989d97@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#155951
In article <df1n5iFi6vtU13@mid.individual.net>, 
Huge@nowhere.much.invalid says...
> 
> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <df1jr9Fi6vtU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid 
> > says...
> >> 
> >> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > In article <20160105000414@news.eternal-september.org>, 
> >> > rogblake@iname.invalid says...
> >> >> 
> >> >> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > So you deprive them of transportation and now they lose the crummy job 
> >> >> > that they do have.  Big help _you_ are.
> >> >> 
> >> >> _You_ are free to help them with your own time, effort, and money.
> >> >
> >> > So let's see, somebody has a car, the state prevents him from using it, 
> >> > and now it's my responsibility to drive him to work.  You are an example 
> >> > of why we have so much poverty in the US--you have somebody who's barely 
> >> > hanging on and your solution is to push him over the edge.
> >> 
> >> So, smartarse, what's your solution?
> >
> > Don't prevent him from using his car.
> 
> So you're happy to share the roads with untested heaps of scrap
> with no insurance? You're an idiot.

No, a realist.  But then you're in England where somebody who in the US 
would be living on a park bench is provided a comfortable flat courtesy 
of the government, so I don't think that any comments that you might 
have concerning non-governmental solutions have any validity at all.

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#155969

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-01-05 16:07 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn8nqij.2rv.mausg@smaus.org>
In reply to#155951
On 2016-01-05, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <df1jr9Fi6vtU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid 
>> says...
>>> 
>>> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > In article <20160105000414@news.eternal-september.org>, 
>>> > rogblake@iname.invalid says...
>>> >> 
>>> >> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > So you deprive them of transportation and now they lose the crummy job 
>>> >> > that they do have.  Big help _you_ are.
>>> >> 
>>> >> _You_ are free to help them with your own time, effort, and money.
>>> >
>>> > So let's see, somebody has a car, the state prevents him from using it, 
>>> > and now it's my responsibility to drive him to work.  You are an example 
>>> > of why we have so much poverty in the US--you have somebody who's barely 
>>> > hanging on and your solution is to push him over the edge.
>>> 
>>> So, smartarse, what's your solution?
>>
>> Don't prevent him from using his car.
>
> So you're happy to share the roads with untested heaps of scrap
> with no insurance? You're an idiot.
>
>

In Ireland, uninsured driver accidents are paid out of a fund maintained
by the insurance companies. So far, it had worked well enough, and saved
a fortune in fees to ambulance chasers. Recent incidents are for the 
following scam, steal a car (any sort of car), drive along until you see
a victim (say, elderly person), ram them in a non-serious way, then offer
to forget the accident in exchange for money.


-- 
greymaus
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#156055

FromStan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org>
Date2016-01-06 07:49 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn8pho5.8it.plan.b@ID-309335.user.uni-berlin.de>
In reply to#155969
On 5 Jan 2016 16:07:51 GMT, mausg@mail.com <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> In Ireland, uninsured driver accidents are paid out of a fund maintained
> by the insurance companies. So far, it had worked well enough, and saved
> a fortune in fees to ambulance chasers. Recent incidents are for the 
> following scam, steal a car (any sort of car), drive along until you see
> a victim (say, elderly person), ram them in a non-serious way, then offer
> to forget the accident in exchange for money.

Happened to someone I know, luckily he had a dashcam* and the police
came and took the offender away!

* Dashcams are becoming the MustHave accessory over here (UK),
preferably with gps and internet connectivity.

-- 
Stan Barr     plan.b@bluesomatic.org

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#156069

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-01-06 11:26 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn8pufh.170.mausg@smaus.org>
In reply to#156055
On 2016-01-06, Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> wrote:
> On 5 Jan 2016 16:07:51 GMT, mausg@mail.com <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>> In Ireland, uninsured driver accidents are paid out of a fund maintained
>> by the insurance companies. So far, it had worked well enough, and saved
>> a fortune in fees to ambulance chasers. Recent incidents are for the 
>> following scam, steal a car (any sort of car), drive along until you see
>> a victim (say, elderly person), ram them in a non-serious way, then offer
>> to forget the accident in exchange for money.
>
> Happened to someone I know, luckily he had a dashcam* and the police
> came and took the offender away!
>
> * Dashcams are becoming the MustHave accessory over here (UK),
> preferably with gps and internet connectivity.
>

I am thinking of getting a dashcam, but how to prevent it being stolen?..
They seem to be widely used in Russia, and make for very entertaining
videos. I am told that the traffic police in Russia can be easily influenced
, when arriving at a crash, by the one involved that has more ready cash,
and the dashcam can counter that.


-- 
greymaus
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#155978

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2016-01-05 12:36 -0600
Message-ID<n6h2ae$mdc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#155951
On 1/5/2016 5:19 AM, Huge wrote:
> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <df1jr9Fi6vtU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid
>> says...
>>>
>>> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> In article <20160105000414@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>> rogblake@iname.invalid says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> So you deprive them of transportation and now they lose the crummy job
>>>>>> that they do have.  Big help _you_ are.
>>>>>
>>>>> _You_ are free to help them with your own time, effort, and money.
>>>>
>>>> So let's see, somebody has a car, the state prevents him from using it,
>>>> and now it's my responsibility to drive him to work.  You are an example
>>>> of why we have so much poverty in the US--you have somebody who's barely
>>>> hanging on and your solution is to push him over the edge.
>>>
>>> So, smartarse, what's your solution?
>>
>> Don't prevent him from using his car.
>
> So you're happy to share the roads with untested heaps of scrap
> with no insurance? You're an idiot.
>
>
The state that I live in, in company with a number of other states, 
doesn't have any testing. That may or may not be the optimum solution, 
but it's a solution for this dilemma. You can still get ticketed for 
defective equipment.

Has anyone suggested going without insurance as a solution, or is that 
a straw man?

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#156025

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-05 17:52 -0500
Message-ID<MPG.30f6132ca9782d19989d9b@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#155978
In article <n6h2ae$mdc$1@dont-email.me>, dave.garland@wizinfo.com 
says...
> 
> On 1/5/2016 5:19 AM, Huge wrote:
> > On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> In article <df1jr9Fi6vtU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> In article <20160105000414@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >>>> rogblake@iname.invalid says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> So you deprive them of transportation and now they lose the crummy job
> >>>>>> that they do have.  Big help _you_ are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> _You_ are free to help them with your own time, effort, and money.
> >>>>
> >>>> So let's see, somebody has a car, the state prevents him from using it,
> >>>> and now it's my responsibility to drive him to work.  You are an example
> >>>> of why we have so much poverty in the US--you have somebody who's barely
> >>>> hanging on and your solution is to push him over the edge.
> >>>
> >>> So, smartarse, what's your solution?
> >>
> >> Don't prevent him from using his car.
> >
> > So you're happy to share the roads with untested heaps of scrap
> > with no insurance? You're an idiot.
> >
> >
> The state that I live in, in company with a number of other states, 
> doesn't have any testing. That may or may not be the optimum solution, 
> but it's a solution for this dilemma. You can still get ticketed for 
> defective equipment.
> 
> Has anyone suggested going without insurance as a solution, or is that 
> a straw man?

The problem with going without is that if you get stopped, in this state 
anyway, it's driving an unregistered vehicle, a huge fine, and the 
vehicle can be impounded.

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#156028

FromLawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx>
Date2016-01-05 17:00 -0600
Message-ID<87vb77pr7j.fsf@redbull.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
In reply to#156025
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>> Has anyone suggested going without insurance as a solution, or is that 
>> a straw man?
>
> The problem with going without is that if you get stopped, in this state 
> anyway, it's driving an unregistered vehicle, a huge fine, and the 
> vehicle can be impounded.

And that's the problem -- we either have to undo five decades of urban
planning, implement effective public transportation, or find a private
transportation solution for the "working poor".

Telling someone after the fact "Well - you should have just been born
into a wealthy family like I was" or "Well - you should have just been
born smarter and more skillful like I was", or even "You should have put
away more money during the fat years, so when the lean years came you'd
not be in this situation" is absolutely POINTLESS.

There is no quantity of subjunctive verbs that will alleviate hunger and
homelessness.  

There's another piece of fiction that touches on this issue -- it's a
quickly moving novella.  http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm

--NK1G

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#156187

From"879" <879@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-07 15:44 +1100
Message-ID<df68qbFodt4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156028

"Lawrence Statton" <lawrence@senguio.mx> wrote in message 
news:87vb77pr7j.fsf@redbull.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me...
> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Has anyone suggested going without insurance as a solution, or is that
>>> a straw man?
>>
>> The problem with going without is that if you get stopped, in this state
>> anyway, it's driving an unregistered vehicle, a huge fine, and the
>> vehicle can be impounded.
>
> And that's the problem -- we either have to undo five decades of urban
> planning, implement effective public transportation,

There is plenty of effective public transportation in the bigger cities
and no reason why those who don't have that available can't ride
a bike, or move to where there is effective public transportation
or get real radical and get an older car and insure it.

> or find a private transportation solution for the "working poor".

Don't need one, cars work fine even for the
working poor, most of whom have at least one.

> Telling someone after the fact "Well - you should have just been born
> into a wealthy family like I was" or "Well - you should have just been
> born smarter and more skillful like I was", or even "You should have put
> away more money during the fat years, so when the lean years came you'd
> not be in this situation" is absolutely POINTLESS.

Yes, but hundreds of millions who don't have any of that do fine anyway.

> There is no quantity of subjunctive verbs that will alleviate hunger

There is no real hunger in the modern first and second world,
the problem is the obesity epidemic, PARTICULARLY with the
'working poor'

> and homelessness.

The absolute vast bulk of those are those we used to keep in
locked wards or who choose to piss whatever money they do
get on grog or drugs or both.

> There's another piece of fiction that touches on this issue -- it's a
> quickly moving novella.  http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm

Just more mindless fiction. 

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#156238

FromJoy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid>
Date2016-01-07 23:56 -0400
Message-ID<fncu8b5rbt92kl7p3uqfn5aend794i0rj5@4ax.com>
In reply to#156187
On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:44:54 +1100, "879" <879@nospam.com> wrote:

> no reason why those who don't have that available can't ride
> a bike, 

There is a very tragic reason:  the vast majority of Americans know
less than nothing about riding bikes, and when they try to learn, they
are usually made even more ignorant than before.

For example, self-styled "safety experts" frequently advise the
beginner that he should ride in the opposite direction to all the
other traffic in his lane "so that he can see them coming".  Or he'll
be advised to ride on a sidewalk so that he can surprise as many
drivers and pedestrians as possible.


-- 
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
The above message is a Usenet post. 
I don't recall having given anyone permission to use it on a Web site.

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#156240

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2016-01-08 07:33 +0000
Message-ID<20160108073333.acbb60aa5cbe34e7c0b42440@eircom.net>
In reply to#156238
On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 23:56:02 -0400
Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:44:54 +1100, "879" <879@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
> > no reason why those who don't have that available can't ride
> > a bike, 
> 
> There is a very tragic reason:  the vast majority of Americans know
> less than nothing about riding bikes, and when they try to learn, they
> are usually made even more ignorant than before.
> 
> For example, self-styled "safety experts" frequently advise the
> beginner that he should ride in the opposite direction to all the

	Makes sense for walking when there is no pavement (sidewalk) but
not for cycling.

> other traffic in his lane "so that he can see them coming".  Or he'll
> be advised to ride on a sidewalk so that he can surprise as many
> drivers and pedestrians as possible.

	That should be illegal except for small children, it is here.

	One thing we had in the UK when I was young that seems to have gone
by the board was a cycling poficiency test administered by the police
usually at primary schools. The standard rule was you may cycle to school
when you've passed it. It involved cycling a simulated road course making
proper signals and so forth as well as weaving between cones without
stopping or falling off.

	Then I grew up in Cambridge, took the training wheels of my bike
on my fourth birthday and abandoned the pavement for the road soon after.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:>WIN                                      | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#156248

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-01-08 06:37 -0500
Message-ID<1135205355.473945472.908836.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#156240
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 23:56:02 -0400
> Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:44:54 +1100, "879" <879@nospam.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> no reason why those who don't have that available can't ride
>>> a bike, 
>> 
>> There is a very tragic reason:  the vast majority of Americans know
>> less than nothing about riding bikes, and when they try to learn, they
>> are usually made even more ignorant than before.
>> 
>> For example, self-styled "safety experts" frequently advise the
>> beginner that he should ride in the opposite direction to all the
> 
> 	Makes sense for walking when there is no pavement (sidewalk) but
> not for cycling.
> 
>> other traffic in his lane "so that he can see them coming".  Or he'll
>> be advised to ride on a sidewalk so that he can surprise as many
>> drivers and pedestrians as possible.
> 
> 	That should be illegal except for small children, it is here.
> 
> 	One thing we had in the UK when I was young that seems to have gone
> by the board was a cycling poficiency test administered by the police
> usually at primary schools. The standard rule was you may cycle to school
> when you've passed it. It involved cycling a simulated road course making
> proper signals and so forth as well as weaving between cones without
> stopping or falling off.
> 

We had a flap,here a couple of years ago where the school tried to forbid
children from biking to school.  This was middle school - kids aged around
10-12. Parents blew up and they had a sort of "bike-in" where the parents
rode with the kids for a few days.  I'm not sure what the result was, but I
think kids can now bike to school.

When I was that age I think I rode all over the county, north to south and
east to west, and beyond, often by myself, sometimes on busy highways.

> 	Then I grew up in Cambridge, took the training wheels of my bike
> on my fourth birthday and abandoned the pavement for the road soon after.
> 



-- 
Pete

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#156261

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2016-01-08 17:32 +0000
Message-ID<dfaa4sFp6naU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156240
On 2016-01-08, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

[23 lines snipped]

> 	One thing we had in the UK when I was young that seems to have gone
> by the board was a cycling poficiency test administered by the police
> usually at primary schools. The standard rule was you may cycle to school
> when you've passed it.

Even cyclist-loathing me (*) passed the cycling proficiency test and cycled
to school.

(* Nothing to do with *cycling*, everything to do with *cyclists*.)


-- 
Today is Pungenday, the 8th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3182
                  I don't have an attitude problem.
    If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.

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#156242

From"879" <879@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-08 20:42 +1100
Message-ID<df9ektFif6fU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156238

"Joy Beeson" <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote in message 
news:fncu8b5rbt92kl7p3uqfn5aend794i0rj5@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:44:54 +1100, "879" <879@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> no reason why those who don't have that available can't ride
>> a bike,
>
> There is a very tragic reason:  the vast majority of Americans know
> less than nothing about riding bikes,

I don't believe that. Most of they would have ridden one as a child.

> and when they try to learn, they are usually
> made even more ignorant than before.

> For example, self-styled "safety experts" frequently advise the
> beginner that he should ride in the opposite direction to all the
> other traffic in his lane "so that he can see them coming".  Or he'll
> be advised to ride on a sidewalk so that he can surprise as many
> drivers and pedestrians as possible.

I don't believe that most of the poor who we
are discussing take any notice of safety experts.

And I just passed a kid on a bike doing that
this morning, must have been about 12 on
one of the main traffic routes in my town. 

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#156247

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2016-01-08 11:03 +0000
Message-ID<20160108110325.ecbff83496b3bc95594c2df7@eircom.net>
In reply to#156242
On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:42:48 +1100
"879" <879@nospam.com> wrote:

> "Joy Beeson" <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:fncu8b5rbt92kl7p3uqfn5aend794i0rj5@4ax.com...

> > There is a very tragic reason:  the vast majority of Americans know
> > less than nothing about riding bikes,
> 
> I don't believe that. Most of they would have ridden one as a child.

	Most people here have ridden one as a child too - however when you
see them on the road, especially the lycra clad ones, they clearly have no
idea how to ride on the road. They wobble about, ride two, three and even
four abreast even when there is traffic, never signal, ignore traffic
lights and pedestrian crossings, never look behind them and are in general a
hazard to themselves and everyone else around. It is clear that if they
were ever taught how to ride safely in traffic they have forgotten it all.
There are exceptions, and they stand out.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:>WIN                                      | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#156277

From"879" <879@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-09 06:14 +1100
Message-ID<dfag40Fr3hlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#156247

"Ahem A Rivet's Shot" <steveo@eircom.net> wrote in message 
news:20160108110325.ecbff83496b3bc95594c2df7@eircom.net...
> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:42:48 +1100
> "879" <879@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> "Joy Beeson" <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:fncu8b5rbt92kl7p3uqfn5aend794i0rj5@4ax.com...
>
>> > There is a very tragic reason:  the vast majority of Americans know
>> > less than nothing about riding bikes,
>>
>> I don't believe that. Most of them would have ridden one as a child.
>
> Most people here have ridden one as a child too - however when you
> see them on the road, especially the lycra clad ones, they clearly have no
> idea how to ride on the road. They wobble about,

Can't say I have seen any doing that.

ride two, three and even
> four abreast even when there is traffic,

That is legal here.

> never signal,

Some of ours do.

> ignore traffic lights

You don't see that here.

> and pedestrian crossings,

Or that.

> never look behind them

Plenty of ours do.

and are in general a
> hazard to themselves and everyone else around.

Mainly because they are much slower than cars
and have very little protection when things go bad.

It is clear that if they
> were ever taught how to ride safely in traffic they have forgotten it all.

I think its more they choose not to do it that way when they do that.

Like that kid I saw yesterday riding on the wrong side of the road
on a major thoroughfare in my town, well off the side of that road
tho that doesn't have a proper gutter on that side of the road.

> There are exceptions, and they stand out.

I do come across quite a few tearing around on the
bush tracks that I walk on for exercise, on their non
road bikes. Never had any problem with them, they
are very careful to not run you over and I always
get a thank you when I get out of the road and
let them past.

There is a big pack of the lycra clad ones that
do charge around in a groups of anything up
to 30 or so at times, but they are really just a
minor nuisance out on the major roads outside
town where they are much slower than the
100KMPH speed limit.

Sposed to be much worse in the CBDs of the
state capitals but I didn't see much of that the
last time I was there just a couple of weeks ago. 

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