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| Started by | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| First post | 2015-12-07 10:48 -0800 |
| Last post | 2015-12-08 11:55 -0500 |
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1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-07 10:48 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-07 23:49 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-07 22:38 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-12-08 10:23 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-08 11:55 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-12-08 17:57 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-08 10:16 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-08 14:18 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-08 16:58 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-08 23:10 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-09 07:15 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-08 14:14 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-08 12:02 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-12-09 01:07 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-12-09 11:18 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-12-09 08:47 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:17 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-09 16:53 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-09 17:22 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-12-09 17:39 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-09 18:21 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-10 04:56 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 14:06 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-09 12:20 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 19:32 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-12-09 21:53 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-10 15:23 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-10 23:03 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-11 22:56 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-11 07:17 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-09 20:39 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-09 18:27 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-09 11:04 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-12-09 16:06 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-10 10:36 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-10 07:53 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-10 16:27 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-10 19:11 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 17:58 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-11 01:04 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-11 15:18 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-11 07:16 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-12-11 15:21 +0100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-09 17:47 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-12-09 22:17 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Ranger" <r5432@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 17:20 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-12-11 08:25 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-12-10 01:41 -0400
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-10 10:44 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 17:51 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-12-10 16:45 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-11 07:26 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-12-11 14:29 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-12-11 15:31 +0100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-12 08:11 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-12 16:58 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-12 11:32 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-13 15:50 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 10:46 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-03 16:23 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-03 17:12 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 20:36 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-04 06:13 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-04 10:14 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 09:58 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 21:28 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-04 21:16 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:16 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 12:51 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-03 20:20 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-04 06:48 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-04 10:17 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 21:29 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 09:51 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-04 17:56 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-04 19:04 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 13:30 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-04 22:37 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 12:24 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 21:30 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 05:02 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:19 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 10:22 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:38 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:19 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:35 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-05 16:07 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-06 07:49 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 11:26 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 12:36 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 17:52 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 17:00 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:44 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-01-07 23:56 -0400
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-08 07:33 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 06:37 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-08 17:32 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 20:42 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-08 11:03 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-09 06:14 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 06:52 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:48 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 18:50 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-07 10:49 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 12:51 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 12:40 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 11:23 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:43 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:56 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 19:01 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 09:40 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 06:54 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 10:12 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 20:38 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-05 22:11 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:28 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 11:35 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-09 02:00 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 05:36 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-09 11:48 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-09 20:45 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-10 05:46 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:37 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 08:16 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-06 18:20 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-05 14:39 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 12:46 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-05 12:17 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 20:23 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-05 12:50 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-05 13:02 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 22:17 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-06 15:02 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-06 10:53 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-07 14:54 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-07 09:58 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-08 14:50 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 06:03 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-08 14:50 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-09 09:44 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:14 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 14:56 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-07 20:22 +0100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 15:19 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-08 10:42 +0100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-08 10:45 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-08 16:08 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-09 05:29 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-05 16:39 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:18 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-06 18:20 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:28 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-06 13:14 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-07 14:54 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 20:02 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 14:30 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-06 08:16 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 11:33 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:57 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 13:43 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 15:20 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 16:14 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 19:59 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 18:52 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-06 08:28 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:33 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 09:56 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-07 08:25 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 06:54 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-06 08:06 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-07 08:33 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 08:24 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 16:38 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 22:25 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:28 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-06 15:04 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 19:22 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 07:46 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:29 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:33 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 10:23 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 08:10 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 12:29 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 18:50 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-05 19:11 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 19:20 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-05 20:02 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 20:12 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-05 20:39 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:28 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 18:00 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:10 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:49 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-05 16:51 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:36 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 13:24 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 13:52 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 19:54 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 21:30 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 16:22 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 07:51 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 06:31 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 11:44 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 06:54 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 13:50 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 19:13 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:16 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 10:23 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 15:59 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-06 08:25 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 14:39 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-06 09:09 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 10:09 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 09:49 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 18:07 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:47 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-06 11:01 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:30 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:06 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-07 20:46 +0100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 15:44 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-08 10:49 +0100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-09 05:48 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-06 06:21 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 13:21 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 13:05 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 21:15 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:30 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-07 05:23 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 14:57 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-05 16:46 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:19 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 14:42 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 16:01 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-06 13:05 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-07 03:42 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-07 07:45 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-07 08:30 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-07 09:55 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-07 17:01 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-07 09:52 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-11 12:34 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-11 10:22 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-05 16:25 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-05 23:01 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 17:14 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 23:56 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 07:57 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 11:14 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-06 06:54 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-06 12:11 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 11:46 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-06 11:39 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-06 14:20 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-06 14:46 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:32 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-07 11:33 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 06:11 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-07 13:28 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-08 15:30 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 17:57 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 17:12 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 18:55 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-06 07:59 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-06 18:58 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-07 12:04 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 18:04 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-08 06:55 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-08 06:37 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 23:56 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:59 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 20:45 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-06 04:09 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-06 08:05 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "879" <879@nospam.com> - 2016-01-07 15:38 +1100
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-01-07 16:09 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-04 18:10 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 11:21 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-04 20:38 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 16:14 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-04 21:40 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-04 21:25 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 10:24 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:44 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:21 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:36 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 18:52 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 13:32 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-05 04:27 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-04 15:03 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 16:14 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-04 13:34 -0800
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-04 16:53 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-04 18:12 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-04 21:38 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 21:35 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 10:23 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 05:43 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:20 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 11:20 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 11:43 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 13:40 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 16:09 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 17:09 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 07:02 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 13:30 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-05 09:17 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 18:52 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-05 12:42 -0600
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-05 18:53 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-05 21:19 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:40 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-05 21:50 +0000
Re: 1970--protesters seize computer center Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-12-08 21:25 +0100
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-04 21:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.30f4f605dccc575c989d8f@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #155915 |
In article <df072qF7q4pU2@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid says... > > On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) > > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > > > >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap > >> poured on them from both government and the private sector. > > > > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends > > meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to #8 and > > it arrived the day before they got paid > > IOW they commit fraud. I do hope that some day you find yourself with less income than you need to live. All of these judgments of yours will go right out the window.
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 10:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <df1jsqFi6vtU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #155930 |
On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <df072qF7q4pU2@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid
> says...
>>
>> On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST)
>> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap
>> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector.
>> >
>> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends
>> > meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to #8 and
>> > it arrived the day before they got paid
>>
>> IOW they commit fraud.
>
> I do hope that some day you find yourself with less income than you need
> to live. All of these judgments of yours will go right out the window.
Most unlikely. I know how to run a budget.
--
Today is Setting Orange, the 5th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3182
Celebrate Mungday
I don't have an attitude problem.
If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 05:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.30f5684debf5d78b989d95@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #155945 |
In article <df1jsqFi6vtU2@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid says... > > On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > > In article <df072qF7q4pU2@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid > > says... > >> > >> On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > >> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) > >> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > >> > > >> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap > >> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector. > >> > > >> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends > >> > meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to #8 and > >> > it arrived the day before they got paid > >> > >> IOW they commit fraud. > > > > I do hope that some day you find yourself with less income than you need > > to live. All of these judgments of yours will go right out the window. > > Most unlikely. I know how to run a budget. OK, you've got $500 a month plus $189 in food stamps. Your job is 25 miles from where you live and there is no public transportation. It's New England in the winter and utilities are not included in your housing payment. Let's see you budget your way out of that.
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 11:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <df1n7bFi6vtU14@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #155948 |
On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <df1jsqFi6vtU2@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid
> says...
>>
>> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <df072qF7q4pU2@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST)
>> >> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap
>> >> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector.
>> >> >
>> >> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends
>> >> > meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to #8 and
>> >> > it arrived the day before they got paid
>> >>
>> >> IOW they commit fraud.
>> >
>> > I do hope that some day you find yourself with less income than you need
>> > to live. All of these judgments of yours will go right out the window.
>>
>> Most unlikely. I know how to run a budget.
>
> OK, you've got $500 a month plus $189 in food stamps. Your job is 25
> miles from where you live and there is no public transportation. It's
> New England in the winter and utilities are not included in your housing
> payment. Let's see you budget your way out of that.
I'll send your strawman to do the job instead.
--
Today is Setting Orange, the 5th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3182
Celebrate Mungday
I don't have an attitude problem.
If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 11:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160105112038.827faf604ee9332108cfa88e@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #155945 |
On 5 Jan 2016 10:23:23 GMT Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > > In article <df072qF7q4pU2@mid.individual.net>, > > Huge@nowhere.much.invalid says... > >> > >> On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > >> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) > >> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > >> > > >> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap > >> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector. > >> > > >> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making > >> > ends meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're > >> > down to #8 and it arrived the day before they got paid > >> > >> IOW they commit fraud. > > > > I do hope that some day you find yourself with less income than you > > need to live. All of these judgments of yours will go right out the > > window. > > Most unlikely. I know how to run a budget. So here you are running a tight budget with very little headroom, when your car blows a head gasket landing you with an expensive repair bill that must be paid right now, and extra costs for the transportation you *must* have in order not to lose your job. You have been very good, and you have managed to save a contingency fund (perhaps in the form of credit) but it isn't *quite* enough for the expense you could *not* predict. Just as you're reeling from this your employer is having troubles and cuts salaries by 15% across the board. Then the local government doubles property taxes and demands immediate payment. To cap it all storm damage takes half the roof off your house and the insurance company refuses to pay up on a technicality (they're good at finding those). None of these are particularly unlikely events - all at once is just bad luck. How's your budget holding up now ? It's really easy to run a budget when you have a decent expendable income, not so much when the expendable income looks more like a child's pocket money but even with good contigeny planning a bad enough streak can clean you out. Then the bank adds insult to injury with those non-payment charges - of course if your judgement is correct this is a minor problem compared with the jail sentence for fraud you seem to think is justfiable. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 11:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <df1oinFi6vtU20@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #155956 |
On 2016-01-05, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On 5 Jan 2016 10:23:23 GMT
> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > In article <df072qF7q4pU2@mid.individual.net>,
>> > Huge@nowhere.much.invalid says...
>> >>
>> >> On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST)
>> >> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap
>> >> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector.
>> >> >
>> >> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making
>> >> > ends meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're
>> >> > down to #8 and it arrived the day before they got paid
>> >>
>> >> IOW they commit fraud.
>> >
>> > I do hope that some day you find yourself with less income than you
>> > need to live. All of these judgments of yours will go right out the
>> > window.
>>
>> Most unlikely. I know how to run a budget.
>
> So here you are running a tight budget with very little headroom,
> when your car
Why are "you" running a car when you can't afford one? When I started work,
I couldn't afford a car. So I lived close to work, on a public transport
route. I couldn't afford somewhere nice to live in that area, so it was
a shithole. Them's the breaks.
--
Today is Setting Orange, the 5th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3182
Celebrate Mungday
I don't have an attitude problem.
If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 13:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160105134015.dbf63fc2e5847ac1fd172c89@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #155958 |
On 5 Jan 2016 11:43:19 GMT Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > On 2016-01-05, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > > On 5 Jan 2016 10:23:23 GMT > > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > > > >> On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > In article <df072qF7q4pU2@mid.individual.net>, > >> > Huge@nowhere.much.invalid says... > >> >> > >> >> On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > >> >> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) > >> >> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap > >> >> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector. > >> >> > > >> >> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making > >> >> > ends meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're > >> >> > down to #8 and it arrived the day before they got paid > >> >> > >> >> IOW they commit fraud. > >> > > >> > I do hope that some day you find yourself with less income than you > >> > need to live. All of these judgments of yours will go right out the > >> > window. > >> > >> Most unlikely. I know how to run a budget. > > > > So here you are running a tight budget with very little > > headroom, when your car > > Why are "you" running a car when you can't afford one? When I started That's the point - 'you' can afford one you can even handle some contigencies. But when the shite coming down exceeds your contignency (which can always happen unless you are rich) then you are SOL. The bigger your expendable income the bigger a contigency fund you can have, but nobody has an infinite one. If your contingency has never been blown then you have been lucky or you are rich. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 16:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <df285sFneeqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #155964 |
On 2016-01-05, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
[39 lines snipped]
> If your contingency has never been blown then
> you have been lucky or you are rich.
O-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-kay. So that's your definition of "rich",
is it?
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Celebrate Mungday
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If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 17:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160105170903.39b5fff0c558fd6a1edba80a@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #155970 |
On 5 Jan 2016 16:09:32 GMT Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > On 2016-01-05, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > > [39 lines snipped] > > > If your contingency has never been blown then > > you have been lucky or you are rich. > > O-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-kay. So that's your definition of > "rich", is it? Well the only people I know who've never had to worry about it are rich. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 07:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.30f57add1a2d9fcf989d9a@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #155956 |
In article <20160105112038.827faf604ee9332108cfa88e@eircom.net>, steveo@eircom.net says... > > On 5 Jan 2016 10:23:23 GMT > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > > > On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In article <df072qF7q4pU2@mid.individual.net>, > > > Huge@nowhere.much.invalid says... > > >> > > >> On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > > >> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) > > >> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap > > >> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector. > > >> > > > >> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making > > >> > ends meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're > > >> > down to #8 and it arrived the day before they got paid > > >> > > >> IOW they commit fraud. > > > > > > I do hope that some day you find yourself with less income than you > > > need to live. All of these judgments of yours will go right out the > > > window. > > > > Most unlikely. I know how to run a budget. > > So here you are running a tight budget with very little headroom, > when your car blows a head gasket landing you with an expensive repair bill > that must be paid right now, and extra costs for the transportation you > *must* have in order not to lose your job. You have been very good, and you > have managed to save a contingency fund (perhaps in the form of credit) but > it isn't *quite* enough for the expense you could *not* predict. Just as > you're reeling from this your employer is having troubles and cuts salaries > by 15% across the board. Then the local government doubles property taxes > and demands immediate payment. To cap it all storm damage takes half the > roof off your house and the insurance company refuses to pay up on a > technicality (they're good at finding those). None of these are > particularly unlikely events - all at once is just bad luck. > > How's your budget holding up now ? It's really easy to run a budget > when you have a decent expendable income, not so much when the expendable > income looks more like a child's pocket money but even with good contigeny > planning a bad enough streak can clean you out. Then the bank adds insult > to injury with those non-payment charges - of course if your judgement is > correct this is a minor problem compared with the jail sentence for fraud > you seem to think is justfiable. Sounds like you've been there. Or at least can understand the situation. But having savings is in and of itself a luxury for some people. There are folks who have to choose whether they're going to do without heat, lights, or food in any given month. A further complication is that if they decide to do without heat or lights then they're actually without for several months because the turn-off and turn-on fees are as much as the monthly bill.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 13:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160105133052.3452b89952cc2daa9664c28e@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #155961 |
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 07:02:30 -0500 "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <20160105112038.827faf604ee9332108cfa88e@eircom.net>, > steveo@eircom.net says... ... > > How's your budget holding up now ? It's really easy to run a > > budget when you have a decent expendable income, not so much when the > > expendable income looks more like a child's pocket money but even with > > good contigeny planning a bad enough streak can clean you out. Then the > > bank adds insult to injury with those non-payment charges - of course > > if your judgement is correct this is a minor problem compared with the > > jail sentence for fraud you seem to think is justfiable. > > Sounds like you've been there. Or at least can understand the > situation. I've had my contingency fund blown yes, and I know people a lot worse off than I have ever been. I have been lucky enough to have a skill that sells at a good price, not everybody is so lucky. > But having savings is in and of itself a luxury for some people. There Oh certainly, I was trying to show that, even if you can afford your lifestyle with some extra to put away, a bad enough streak of luck can push you over - which makes a nonesense of the smug "I know how to budget" comment. > are folks who have to choose whether they're going to do without heat, > lights, or food in any given month. Yes there are - or at least they have to minimise all three usually by part paying bills and eating badly. Most houses here have some form of solid fuel heating available, I have friends who collect scrap wood from anyone willing to give it away. > A further complication is that if > they decide to do without heat or lights then they're actually without > for several months because the turn-off and turn-on fees are as much as > the monthly bill. Thankfully on this side of the pond that tends not to be the case, and the utility companies try very hard not to cut people off - part payment is usually enough to hold them off. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 09:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n6gj55$np6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #155945 |
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> writes: > On 2016-01-05, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >> In article <df072qF7q4pU2@mid.individual.net>, Huge@nowhere.much.invalid >> says... >>> >>> On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >>> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) >>> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >>> > >>> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap >>> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector. >>> > >>> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends >>> > meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to #8 and >>> > it arrived the day before they got paid >>> >>> IOW they commit fraud. >> >> I do hope that some day you find yourself with less income than you need >> to live. All of these judgments of yours will go right out the window. > > Most unlikely. I know how to run a budget. Don't get sick. -- Dan Espen
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 18:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2140835597.473707044.276967.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #155915 |
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > On 2016-01-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: >> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) >> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >> >>> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap >>> poured on them from both government and the private sector. >> >> A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends >> meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to #8 and >> it arrived the day before they got paid > > IOW they commit fraud. > Not really. It's just "anticipation." i did this for years. If it takes a three days for a check to get there in the mail, and a day or so to clear, you should have plenty of time. For years I have had overdraft protection on my checking account, although I haven't needed it lately. The bank pays an overdraft of up to $2000, no fee and a reasonable daily interest rate, so I might pay 75ยข for a few days overdraft. Unfortunately this is probably not available to the people who really need it. -- Pete
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| From | Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 12:42 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <87d1tfrhpe.fsf@redbull.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> |
| In reply to | #155894 |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap >> poured on them from both government and the private sector. > > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends > meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to #8 and > it arrived the day before they got paid - the bank promptly charges the > #12.50 for the failed payment and perhaps another #12.50 for allowing their > account to go overdrawn leaving them with even less chance of making ends > meet. If the poor victim is really unlucky then the #10 they owe gets > bumped to #12 for late payment. it's even more devious than that ... A BigBank in California got caught with exactly the following algorithm: John Doe has $800 in his account, and all in one day he makes a deposit of $500 and writes checks for $50, $85, $125, $300 and $500. It turns out, the bank would 'flag' accounts of customers with a history of living on the edge, and would purposefully batch their drafts and attempt to settle them in reverse order of magnitude. So, your $500 and $300 draft clears, and then the $125, $85, and $50 drafts bounce, generating about US$100 in penalties for each one. Only AFTER all those fees had accumulated, would your $500 deposit be settled, leaving you sixty dollars in the hole. This wasn't a fluke or accident or confluence of bad luck -- it was a PURPOSEFUL plan to extract money. And that it was specifically targetted at those least in a position to absorb such a loss is unconscionable. I think that was about the time I lost all faith in Libertarianism. --NK1G
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| From | Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 18:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160105135431@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #155980 |
On 2016-01-05, Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> wrote: > I think that was about the time I lost all faith in Libertarianism. No need to lose faith. It's because of banking abuses like this that there are credit unions. I haven't had a regular bank account in almost forever, screw those guys. In fact I don't know why anyone would want to do business with them. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Blake (Posts from Google Groups killfiled due to excess spam.) NSA sedition and treason -- http://www.DeathToNSAthugs.com -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 19:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <713888855.473731864.516770.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #155987 |
Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> wrote: > On 2016-01-05, Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> wrote: >> I think that was about the time I lost all faith in Libertarianism. > > No need to lose faith. It's because of banking abuses like this that > there are credit unions. And firing squads. I haven't had a regular bank account in almost > forever, screw those guys. In fact I don't know why anyone would want > to do business with them. > -- Pete
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 21:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160105211937.e854335cabd3b998f0f85ca7@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #155980 |
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:42:37 -0600 Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> wrote: > Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: > > > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) > > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > > > >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap > >> poured on them from both government and the private sector. > > > > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends > > meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to > > #8 and it arrived the day before they got paid - the bank promptly > > #charges the 12.50 for the failed payment and perhaps another #12.50 > > #for allowing their > > account to go overdrawn leaving them with even less chance of making > > ends meet. If the poor victim is really unlucky then the #10 they owe > > gets bumped to #12 for late payment. > > it's even more devious than that ... A BigBank in California got caught > with exactly the following algorithm: > > John Doe has $800 in his account, and all in one day he makes a deposit > of $500 and writes checks for $50, $85, $125, $300 and $500. <snip hideous scam> I don't think banks on this side of the pond ever stooped quite so low, BICBW. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 21:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <df2ri7FsjlcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #156010 |
On 2016-01-05, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:42:37 -0600
> Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> wrote:
>
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>
>> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST)
>> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap
>> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector.
>> >
>> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends
>> > meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to
>> > #8 and it arrived the day before they got paid - the bank promptly
>> > #charges the 12.50 for the failed payment and perhaps another #12.50
>> > #for allowing their
>> > account to go overdrawn leaving them with even less chance of making
>> > ends meet. If the poor victim is really unlucky then the #10 they owe
>> > gets bumped to #12 for late payment.
>>
>> it's even more devious than that ... A BigBank in California got caught
>> with exactly the following algorithm:
>>
>> John Doe has $800 in his account, and all in one day he makes a deposit
>> of $500 and writes checks for $50, $85, $125, $300 and $500.
>
><snip hideous scam>
>
> I don't think banks on this side of the pond ever stooped quite so
> low, BICBW.
I think you're right, they never *quite* got to that. Sounds like verging
on fraud to me.
--
Today is Setting Orange, the 33rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem.
If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | mausg@mail.com |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 21:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnn8oelq.16u.mausg@smaus.org> |
| In reply to | #156010 |
On 2016-01-05, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:42:37 -0600 > Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> wrote: > >> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: >> >> > On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:51:32 -0800 (PST) >> > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >> > >> >> Unfortunately, it seems that people in trouble get _more_ crap >> >> poured on them from both government and the private sector. >> > >> > A prime example being banks. Someone having trouble making ends >> > meet finds that a payment of #10 gets bounced because they're down to >> > #8 and it arrived the day before they got paid - the bank promptly >> > #charges the 12.50 for the failed payment and perhaps another #12.50 >> > #for allowing their >> > account to go overdrawn leaving them with even less chance of making >> > ends meet. If the poor victim is really unlucky then the #10 they owe >> > gets bumped to #12 for late payment. >> >> it's even more devious than that ... A BigBank in California got caught >> with exactly the following algorithm: >> >> John Doe has $800 in his account, and all in one day he makes a deposit >> of $500 and writes checks for $50, $85, $125, $300 and $500. > ><snip hideous scam> > > I don't think banks on this side of the pond ever stooped quite so > low, BICBW. > Check out Naational Irish Bank, some years ago, investigated by Charlie Bird, and others. If you had any problem, they took money out of your account, if you made an objection, you had to clear your account, immediatly. -- greymaus . . ...
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-12-08 21:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1vqjjc-5vb.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #154869 |
In article <18789455.471286222.564076.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote: ><hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >> On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 11:46:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Black wrote: >> >>> And that's now further in the past than 1945, the end of WWII, was in the >>> past to 1970. >>> >>> Yet 1970 seems like only yesterday. >> >> Well, I think partly that's because 1970 was "our time". >> >> But also, I think the changed far more radically from 1945 to 1970 >> than from 1970 to today. >> >> From 1945 to 1970 there were the following techno and social changes. >> Changes of course continued from 1970 to today, but there were more >> evolutionary than revolutionary. >> --widespread use of air conditioning >> --widespread of use of jet planes for fast travel >> --cheap telecommunications (big drop in off peak long distance >> charges in 1971) >> --dispersal of families over the country >> --televison >> --computers >> --sexual revolution >> --acceptance of minorities >> --acceptance of women >> --peak out of heavy industry >> --distrust of government (Vietnam, Watergate legacy) >> --less rigid conformity on hair styles, clothing styles (my school >> dropped its dress code in 1970, and jeans ruled from then on). >> --decline of rigid hierarchial comamnd structure in business and family. >> >> To put it another way, a kid entering college in 1970 vs. 1945 would >> find enormous changes in school life. But a kid in 1970 wouldn't >> find it that much different in 2015. For instance, a kid in 1945 >> would be shocked to have a black roommate and know nothing about >> computers, no biggie in 1970 nor 2015. >> >> In 1970, while there was still much heavy industry, the rust belt >> clearly had begun its decay. It didn't take long to discover the >> auto, steel, and railroad industries had troubles. >> >> > >I think this is just recentism. The world, or at least the country, >probably changed as much between 1840 and 1890 as the recent past: >telegraph, railroads, steamships. In 1840 most of the country was a blank >on the map, but by 1890 it had been settled with towns and farms. The >Civil War and the end of slavery, electric lights (and gas before that). The US would have that. Around here (Scandinavia) we industrialised later. It was in the 1890s that this took off. My own grandfather, who lived from 1885 till 1975, was very clear about what was the greatest changes and when they happened in his life. When he grew up the society and available technology to the people was not much different from 1814; the end of the revolutions. Come 1910 they had electricity (expensive, and only in selected places, but still) and they had some lorries and tractors. This took away the worst; namely all the back-breaking work. This was largely gone by 1925. In college we had an essay from a leading newspaper that a person could make a living from owning and operating an electric motor. Which was true then. Then he mentioned telecommunications, in all forms, from the telegraph (which only reached ordinary people affordably ca 1900) via radio to the telephone. The rescue of "Trym" in 1937 was the first cliffhanger, where the radio reported live from the rescuing ship. Trym was a large cargo steamer that had lost engine power in a bad winter storm in the North Sea. They made around dozen attempts to send a line over, all failed; they got the second lifeboat on the water(the first one broke into pieces in the weather) with a rescue team, and barely was able to rescue 5. The remaining ones were hoisted over when they finally got a line across, via a rescued sailor from Trym that had a line on him when he swam for it to the rescue lifeboat. The drama lasted for a day and a half, and all ended well; except that trym sank a few hours after the captain left as the last one. The live reporting was a first, probably an early one world wide. A decade earlier you read about such stuff in the newpaper a few days later. The only incident that could come close in intensity was the Apollo 13 mission. And then he mentionted colours. Anilin based ones came in wide use in the mid 1930s, and made the world a lot livelier place. From 1945 on we have just had more of the same. >I forgot to mention in my previous post that around the 1970s some students >in Canada (McGill maybe) tossed a CDC Cyber system out a window or >something. What wee they protesting? The youth of today are a lot more well behaved than we ever were. -- mrr
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