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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

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First post2015-09-10 12:59 +0000
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  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-10 12:59 +0000
    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 10:21 -0500
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-10 10:54 -0500
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 11:43 -0500
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-10 14:07 -0400
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-10 14:00 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 14:05 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-10 15:58 -0400
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-11 19:04 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-11 23:29 -0400
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-10 12:47 -0700
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 19:03 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-11 10:21 +1000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 21:54 +0000
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-11 12:48 +0000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 05:05 +1000
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-12 13:24 +0000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 04:27 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-12 14:12 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-13 06:51 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-12 21:47 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-12 22:53 -0500
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-13 17:46 -0500
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-13 17:16 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-14 10:17 -0500
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-15 04:48 +1000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-13 21:13 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-14 18:06 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-13 14:20 +1000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:28 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-13 10:54 -0500
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-13 21:15 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-13 23:01 -0700
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-14 04:18 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-12 19:38 -0700
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-09-13 12:20 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 21:45 +0100
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-13 13:43 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:30 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-13 17:14 -0700
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-14 07:00 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-14 12:50 +0000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 09:13 -0500
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-15 13:07 +0000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 04:31 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-14 16:35 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 07:58 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 08:14 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 13:16 +0200
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-15 10:12 +0100
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-15 17:48 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 11:51 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 16:03 +0200
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-15 16:01 +0100
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 19:29 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 20:13 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 20:12 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-16 11:39 +0000
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-16 11:54 +0000
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-15 13:07 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-15 06:14 -0700
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-15 14:55 +0100
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-15 16:05 +0100
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-16 12:54 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 14:27 +0100
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-16 14:49 +0000
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 10:43 -0500
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:12 +0100
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 11:21 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-16 15:02 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 08:08 -0700
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 11:04 -0500
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 10:45 -0700
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 18:02 +0000
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 12:50 -0700
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 07:33 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-16 10:11 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 13:53 -0500
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-16 18:08 -0700
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 21:34 -0400
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 21:15 -0500
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 19:17 -0700
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:30 -0400
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 16:15 +0000
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 15:36 -0400
                                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 19:51 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 16:27 -0400
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 17:25 -0500
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-17 07:11 -0500
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:58 -0400
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-17 16:35 +0200
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-18 13:19 +0000
                                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-18 09:58 -0700
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-18 10:25 -0700
                                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-19 16:29 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-18 19:43 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-18 18:36 -0500
                                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-19 03:24 +0000
                                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-19 10:06 +0100
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 22:14 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-16 13:40 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 10:52 -0700
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-18 11:46 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:54 +0000
                  Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:02 +0100
                    Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-15 14:40 -0500
                      Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-15 19:50 -0700
                        Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 08:00 -0700
                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-16 11:06 -0500
                            Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-16 18:38 +0200
                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Scion <a.b@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-25 13:02 +0000
                            Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-17 09:45 +0100
                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-17 08:34 -0500
                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-18 12:35 +0100
                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:54 +0000
                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-18 21:23 -0500
                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-19 03:24 +0000
                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-19 11:09 +0100
                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-19 16:52 -0500
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-19 22:09 -0500
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 07:27 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 10:50 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-20 15:04 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:50 -0700
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-21 12:36 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:43 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 20:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-21 07:00 +0000
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 09:19 +0100
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:15 +0200
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-21 09:14 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-21 21:33 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-22 11:51 +0100
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-21 07:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:39 -0500
                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-21 10:35 -0700
                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 13:45 -0500
                                                              Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-21 19:06 +0000
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:00 -0500
                                                                  Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-22 14:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:29 -0500
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-22 15:47 +0100
                                                                  Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:27 +0100
                                                                    Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-22 14:28 -0400
                                                                        Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 11:58 -0700
                                                                          Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 15:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-22 18:11 -0700
                                                                          Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-22 22:16 -0400
                                                                          Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 07:37 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:06 -0500
                                                                            Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:33 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:26 -0700
                                                                        Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-23 08:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 23:35 -0400
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 23:41 -0400
                                                                                Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-28 09:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-28 06:28 -0500
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:07 -0500
                                                                                        Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 16:09 -0400
                                                                                          Re: power supplies Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-29 07:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-28 16:28 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-28 19:28 +0200
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 16:00 -0400
                                                                                    Re: power supplies rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-29 06:09 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:20 -0500
                                                                    Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-23 08:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:31 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-23 11:20 -0700
                                                                        Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:38 -0700
                                                                      Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-24 13:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:35 -0400
                                                                            Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-01 13:17 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-01 08:27 -0500
                                                                              Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-02 14:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-02 19:17 +0100
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-02 15:14 -0400
                                                                                    Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 14:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-02 20:15 -0500
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:41 +0200
                                                                            Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-01 13:27 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-04 14:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-05 03:46 +1100
                                                                                Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:51 +0200
                                                                                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:29 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-05 07:16 -0700
                                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-05 15:37 +0100
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:35 +0000
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 09:53 +0100
                                                                      Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 13:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 20:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:46 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:42 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 14:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:51 -0700
                                                              Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:31 -0700
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 14:18 -0500
                                                                  Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 21:36 +0200
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 15:05 -0500
                                                                      Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 22:21 +0200
                                                                    Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:49 -0700
                                                                    steam coold, too, was: power supplies danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-25 02:22 +0000
                                                                      Re: steam coold, too, was: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 07:17 -0700
                                                                  Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:44 -0700
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 10:36 -0500
                                                                      Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-25 10:51 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 14:10 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 12:33 -0700
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 15:07 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-25 20:21 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 16:04 -0500
                                                                              Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-27 07:01 -0400
                                                                      Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 16:42 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:42 -0400
                                                            Re: power supplies Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:14 +0200
                                                            Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:43 +0100
                                                            Re: power supplies Dave Pitts <dpitts@cozx.com> - 2015-09-23 07:47 -0600
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 20:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:41 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-22 23:58 +0200
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:48 +0100
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2015-09-24 12:13 +0800
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 18:10 -0500
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 20:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 01:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:36 +0200
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-21 22:11 -0500
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:02 +0100
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:40 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-22 10:46 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-22 10:51 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 19:23 +0100
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 11:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 14:58 -0500
                                                                              accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-23 20:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:49 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:05 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:01 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:47 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 12:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:00 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-25 09:07 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-23 14:52 +0200
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 14:05 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 12:55 -0700
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-24 00:46 +0200
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-24 17:50 -0700
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 10:53 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:30 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 22:12 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-22 19:22 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 10:00 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-24 07:43 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:46 -0500
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 18:56 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-24 04:05 +0100
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 22:31 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 15:49 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-24 11:05 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 16:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 08:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:02 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:28 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:17 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2015-09-22 11:41 -0700
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-23 14:46 +0200
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-23 17:12 +0200
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 10:45 -0500
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-21 22:09 -0400
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:25 +0200
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-22 07:00 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:26 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-20 19:34 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:16 +0100
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:33 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-20 15:39 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:31 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-20 16:26 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-20 21:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:23 +0100
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-20 10:22 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 16:48 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 10:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 20:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:49 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-21 17:05 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:03 +0200
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-22 00:45 -0400
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-20 12:56 -0500
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:52 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 01:20 +0200
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:07 +0200
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:18 +0100
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:20 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-20 19:23 -0700
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 14:11 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:48 -0700
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 17:08 -0500
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:50 +1000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-28 05:43 +0100
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:03 -0500
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 10:55 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 12:36 -0400
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 09:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 13:20 -0400
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 19:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 15:12 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 17:01 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:15 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 17:05 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 20:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:32 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 18:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 03:07 +0100
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 10:38 -0500
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 12:53 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 18:15 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:14 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:24 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 20:26 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 12:16 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-01 10:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 17:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-29 07:47 +0200
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:36 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:26 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:15 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:52 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-30 22:54 +0200
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 09:02 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-30 21:59 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 14:49 +1000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-09-30 20:09 -0400
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-01 05:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-01 15:13 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 05:40 +1000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 14:34 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 13:45 +1000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:59 -0700
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 19:14 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 14:56 -0500
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 16:08 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:30 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:12 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 17:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 21:22 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-29 07:52 +0200
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 07:52 -0500
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-02 16:41 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 18:55 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:10 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-05 16:20 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:05 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-06 17:17 -0500
                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 08:27 -0700
                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 15:22 -0500
                                                                                                Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-07 21:42 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 18:01 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-08 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:19 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-08 11:41 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 11:25 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-08 07:49 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 13:02 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:32 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:07 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-09 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-09 23:59 -0300
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 12:03 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-08 11:17 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:28 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:29 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-08 13:21 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-14 11:41 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-14 14:45 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-15 03:21 -0300
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-15 08:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 13:53 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 11:32 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:36 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:15 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:50 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:06 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 13:49 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 14:02 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-09 14:23 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:20 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-10 15:00 -0300
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-10 20:11 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:19 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:32 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-10 21:47 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:54 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:43 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 21:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:33 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:25 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 19:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 11:23 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:46 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 09:17 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 09:24 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 13:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 19:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:20 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:34 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 17:59 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 02:05 -0300
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:45 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:13 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:45 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 08:20 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:16 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 16:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 21:59 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 06:43 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-15 07:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 12:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 13:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 14:21 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-14 10:37 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 15:26 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-13 16:16 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 17:57 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-28 13:17 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-28 14:48 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 12:34 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 07:32 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-28 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 01:12 -0300
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 16:34 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 11:11 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 16:32 -0300
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:31 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-10-29 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:29 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:35 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 21:51 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:30 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-30 11:40 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-30 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-30 23:17 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-31 01:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-31 12:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-31 15:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-31 21:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-01 15:04 +1100
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-01 10:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-01 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-02 12:56 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-02 11:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-02 05:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-02 06:16 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-02 13:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 17:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-06 12:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 14:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 20:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 10:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 21:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 15:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 07:58 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 11:02 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-06 12:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 15:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 07:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 14:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 20:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 06:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 08:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-07 13:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 14:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 12:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-11 19:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-11 13:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-11 17:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-12 00:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-04 23:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-05 07:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 06:27 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-05 11:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 14:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-05 14:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 12:46 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-11-06 02:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 10:12 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 12:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 14:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-04 20:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:33 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-05 22:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:30 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 10:43 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 07:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 08:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:55 +1100
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 09:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2015-11-02 16:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 10:42 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 14:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 10:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 10:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-09 12:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 15:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 17:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 20:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 20:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 20:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-12 13:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-13 08:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 06:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-13 08:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-13 10:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-16 11:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-13 09:21 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 14:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-13 14:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-13 09:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 14:47 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-14 01:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-14 09:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 20:49 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-14 10:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-15 04:49 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 12:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-14 16:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 16:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-16 12:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-16 18:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 18:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-16 20:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-17 08:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: historicla archives hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 08:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: historicla archives Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: historicla archives hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 12:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: historicla archives JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: historicla archives Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-17 15:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: historicla archives Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 22:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 11:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-17 16:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 11:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-17 12:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 22:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 17:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-19 09:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-19 14:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-19 10:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-20 08:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-20 10:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 12:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 09:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2015-11-15 18:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-15 19:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 20:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-15 16:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-15 19:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-16 08:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-16 11:36 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-16 08:21 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-15 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-13 14:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 14:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 18:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 21:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 23:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality - Y2K Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 10:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 14:13 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-10 08:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 02:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 10:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:11 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 12:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 12:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-10 03:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 17:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 18:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 19:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-10 10:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 11:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 11:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 14:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-07 13:42 +1100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 23:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 00:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-07 11:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 15:39 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 11:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-11 11:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-11 17:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-11 09:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-11 13:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 14:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 21:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-07 13:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 11:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-07 19:11 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 00:50 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-11-08 11:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-07 18:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 12:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-02 18:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 11:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-03 02:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 16:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 00:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 20:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 13:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 12:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 12:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 13:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 11:25 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 10:51 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 17:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 18:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 13:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 07:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 13:13 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2015-11-02 21:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 07:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 16:04 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 13:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 16:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 11:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 11:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 14:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 12:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-08 16:56 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-08 03:23 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-08 15:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 16:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-08 14:18 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 09:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-09 08:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 00:10 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 04:22 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 05:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 12:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-09 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality tracymnelson@gmail.com - 2015-11-09 10:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-09 17:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-09 14:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 15:08 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 11:09 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-10 01:19 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 07:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-11-10 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2015-11-15 15:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-15 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-16 14:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-16 12:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-16 15:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-11-16 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-16 18:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-17 07:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-16 21:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-09 12:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-09 22:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 19:04 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 16:23 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 16:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 09:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-11-09 23:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-10 00:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 20:14 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 14:19 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-12 13:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-12 16:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-13 00:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-13 19:11 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-13 09:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-13 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 20:46 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-14 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-15 10:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-13 17:50 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-09 14:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-09 15:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-09 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 13:27 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 09:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 14:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-11-09 13:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 07:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-11-09 11:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-09 11:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-08 08:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-08 06:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 13:37 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 16:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-09 14:46 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 10:59 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 16:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 13:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-08 23:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 14:41 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Overthrow Chinese Governmen  (Was: Re: rationality) mentificium@gmail.com - 2015-11-06 04:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 10:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:26 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-04 13:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 16:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 18:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 01:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 22:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-05 17:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-06 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-05 06:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 12:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:52 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-06 10:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 16:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-05 06:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 18:04 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 19:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 10:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 07:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality - bridge to somewhere Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 09:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 12:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 15:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-06 12:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 13:06 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 13:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 02:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 09:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-10 17:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-11 12:20 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 12:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-10 22:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-11 07:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 12:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:42 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 10:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 10:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:04 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 10:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-03 12:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-03 10:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-03 09:09 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 13:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-03 15:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 22:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 17:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 10:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 14:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-04 02:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 08:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-04 14:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-11-04 16:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-03 19:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 07:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-01 13:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 11:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 12:57 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-05 10:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-02 12:55 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 11:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 07:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-05 13:18 +1100
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 16:27 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-29 18:15 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-29 13:45 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 23:46 -0300
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-30 04:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-30 12:39 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-29 20:43 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-29 21:02 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-30 09:42 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 10:41 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-04 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 11:13 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-05 11:33 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 14:04 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-05 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-14 15:52 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-13 12:21 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 12:00 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 13:54 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 17:02 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 11:06 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 10:38 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 14:15 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:10 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-16 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-19 13:28 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-19 15:18 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-20 11:27 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-08 10:23 -0400
                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:55 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 12:02 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:37 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:24 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:15 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:14 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 22:57 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-10 17:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 08:32 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-03 11:11 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 15:55 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-04 14:11 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-04 14:50 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-05 17:44 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-06 13:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-06 17:52 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-06 09:26 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:40 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 16:12 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:14 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-06 12:03 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-29 10:07 -0400
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:05 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:40 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-29 12:35 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 13:03 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 16:48 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:17 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:25 -0400
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 09:37 +1000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:06 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 19:25 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-30 02:26 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-30 03:35 -0300
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 16:58 +1000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-30 06:25 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:00 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 21:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 11:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:26 -0700
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:17 +1000

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#154029 — Re: rationality

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-11-05 14:19 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<n1ga06$co3$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154021
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:

> "Dan Espen" wrote:
>> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
>>
>>> "Dan Espen" wrote:
>>>> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
>>>
>>>>> I would like to see the free market return so that money was just
>>>>> another commodity, like potatoes. All indications are that the guys
>>>>> that really matter don't agree with your cavalier thought that the
>>>>> recession is over. If they agreed with you they would let the world
>>>>> return to normality.
>>>>
>>>> Huh?  What does "guys that really matter" even mean?
>>>
>>> Guys means adult humanoid  The ones that really matter are the ones on
>>> the FRB that meet to determine what interest short term interest rates
>>> will be. There was a guy in the UK who tried to manipulate things
>>> privately (the LIBOR rates) but he was stripped of his powers.  It was
>>> decided that he *shouldn't* matter.
>>
>> Anybody on the FRB knows the definition of recession and
>> most certainly does not think we are in a recession.
>> Assuming we're discussing the USA for the last 7 years or so.
>
> Yes, I meant the USA for the last seven years.  Please replace
> "recession is" in my first paragraph above with the phrase "bad times
> are". 

So, we're in "bad times"?
Yes, workers are not prospering.
The ruling class, are laughing all the way to the bank.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#154048 — Re: rationality

FromStephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date2015-11-05 16:45 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<n1gm2l$b4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154012
On 05-Nov-15 10:33, Osmium wrote:
> "Dan Espen" wrote:
>> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
> 
>>> I would like to see the free market return so that money was
>>> just another commodity, like potatoes. All indications are that
>>> the guys that really matter don't agree with your cavalier
>>> thought that the recession is over. If they agreed with you they
>>> would let the world return to normality.
>> 
>> Huh?  What does "guys that really matter" even mean?
> 
> Guys means adult humanoid  The ones that really matter are the ones
> on the FRB that meet to determine what interest short term interest
> rates will be.

In reality, the federal funds rate follows the open-market bond rates;
if the two diverge by more than 1-2% (in either direction), it opens the
system to arbitrage and the entire banking system would implode.  So,
while a lot is made of the Fed's "decisions" on interest rates, the
decisions are a foregone conclusion; the only real question is the
specific day that they make them.

S

-- 
Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking

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#153884 — Re: rationality

FromAndrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com>
Date2015-11-04 02:51 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<uKGdnctptt7J76TLnZ2dnUU78fGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#153875
On 03/11/2015 21:24, Osmium wrote:
{snip}
>>> Google says credit card rates are almost 18% which seems unnecessarily
>>> high to me.
>>
>> Been that high since forever.
>
> I am bothered by the fact that when the cost for raw materials (money)
> go to zero, the costs charged  to customers should go down.
>
> Does 18% mean that when they finance five TV sets, one of them is free
> and paid for by the other four saps?  Keep in mind that they are also
> getting paid by the retailer.
>
>
No. It is the other way around. Buy 5 TVs, pay the card company the 
money for 6.

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#153893 — Re: rationality

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2015-11-04 09:56 +0100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<6rtogc-p4b.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#153884
In article <uKGdnctptt7J76TLnZ2dnUU78fGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
Andrew Swallow  <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote:
>On 03/11/2015 21:24, Osmium wrote:
>{snip}
>>>> Google says credit card rates are almost 18% which seems unnecessarily
>>>> high to me.
>>>
>>> Been that high since forever.

I remember they were at ~27% a decade and a half ago. So they have
come down. I pay 16%, but only after 6 weeks; so when I settle this
monthly there are only some very minor transaction fees.

>> I am bothered by the fact that when the cost for raw materials (money)
>> go to zero, the costs charged  to customers should go down.
>>
>> Does 18% mean that when they finance five TV sets, one of them is free
>> and paid for by the other four saps?  Keep in mind that they are also
>> getting paid by the retailer.
>>
>>
>No. It is the other way around. Buy 5 TVs, pay the card company the 
>money for 6.

And the retailer pays 3%, or up to 7 if they have had customer protests
against their withdrawals they haven't reimbursed the same day.

-- mrr

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#153910 — Re: rationality

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2015-11-04 08:44 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d9ujv9FdjukU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153884
"Andrew Swallow" wrote:

> On 03/11/2015 21:24, Osmium wrote:
> {snip}
>>>> Google says credit card rates are almost 18% which seems unnecessarily
>>>> high to me.
>>>
>>> Been that high since forever.
>>
>> I am bothered by the fact that when the cost for raw materials (money)
>> go to zero, the costs charged  to customers should go down.
>>
>> Does 18% mean that when they finance five TV sets, one of them is free
>> and paid for by the other four saps?  Keep in mind that they are also
>> getting paid by the retailer.
>>
>>
> No. It is the other way around. Buy 5 TVs, pay the card company the money 
> for 6.

Whatever.  My point was that I can see only  two reasons for such a high 
rate; a ridiculously low threshold for issuing a card or a monopoly running 
rampant. On any given day, there are only a few tens of thousands of new 
people eligible to get a card.  It seems we ought to be able to isolate the 
bad guys quickly and get them to hell out of the herd.  But after all these 
years[1] it is *still* a sky high rate. WTF?

There are only three players, Visa, Master Card and American Express.  Can't 
some determined guy (like a state Attorney General), prove collusion and get 
rid of this problem?   The federal government seems to have a *long term* 
bias to simply look the other way if no lives are lost.

_______________________
[1]. I started getting promos for gas cards in the 1950s. Perhaps actual 
cards, I can't remember. I do remember getting an actual Discover card in 
the mail but that was later on. 

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#153950 — Re: rationality

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2015-11-04 14:00 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<n1do05$lat$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#153910
On 11/4/2015 8:44 AM, Osmium wrote:
> "Andrew Swallow" wrote:
> 
>> On 03/11/2015 21:24, Osmium wrote:
>> {snip}
>>>>> Google says credit card rates are almost 18% which seems
>>>>> unnecessarily
>>>>> high to me.
>>>>
>>>> Been that high since forever.
>>>
>>> I am bothered by the fact that when the cost for raw materials (money)
>>> go to zero, the costs charged  to customers should go down.
>>>
>>> Does 18% mean that when they finance five TV sets, one of them is free
>>> and paid for by the other four saps?  Keep in mind that they are also
>>> getting paid by the retailer.
>>>
>>>
>> No. It is the other way around. Buy 5 TVs, pay the card company the
>> money for 6.
> 
> Whatever.  My point was that I can see only  two reasons for such a
> high rate; a ridiculously low threshold for issuing a card or a
> monopoly running rampant. On any given day, there are only a few tens
> of thousands of new people eligible to get a card.  It seems we ought
> to be able to isolate the bad guys quickly and get them to hell out of
> the herd.  But after all these years[1] it is *still* a sky high rate.
> WTF?
> 
> There are only three players, Visa, Master Card and American Express. 
> Can't some determined guy (like a state Attorney General), prove
> collusion and get rid of this problem?   The federal government seems
> to have a *long term* bias to simply look the other way if no lives
> are lost.

There are _lots_ of players. Visa & MC are franchise operations, the
issuing banks set the rates. I believe AE is more or less monolithic,
as is Discover.

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#153973 — Re: rationality

Fromcmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams)
Date2015-11-04 16:13 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<IoidnWDmL4JrH6fLnZ2dnUU7-S2dnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2>
In reply to#153950
Once upon a time, Dave Garland  <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> said:
>There are _lots_ of players. Visa & MC are franchise operations, the
>issuing banks set the rates. I believe AE is more or less monolithic,
>as is Discover.

American Express is split - there are direct-issued AMEX charge and
credit cards (I think most direct-issue AMEX cards are charge cards, not
revolving credit), and there are bank-issued AMEX credit cards.  They
had to sue to break the VISA/MC duopoly on bank cards; VISA/MC were
signing contracts with banks that didn't allow banks to offer other
options.

-- 
Chris Adams <cmadams@cmadams.net>

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#153869 — Re: rationality

FromGreymaus <mausg@mail.com>
Date2015-11-03 19:32 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<slrnn3i2k5.4l3.mausg@dmaus.org>
In reply to#153859
On 2015-11-03, Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:
>
>> FED is still providing tens of trillions in ZIRP funds. Lots of
>> references that periodic comments by FED chairman that they will stop
>> ZIRP funds, is just HYPE ... claim that FED has backed itself into
>> corner with nearly decade of ZIRP funds and doesn't know what to do
>> now.
>
> So we are seven years into this experiment to see if zero interest rates can 
> get us out of a recession. So we are in about 1936 in comparison to the 
> depression of 1929.  That one eased up in 1940 or so when Hitler started 
> mixing it up in Europe.
>
> Google says credit card rates are almost 18% which seems unnecessarily high 
> to me.  The Federal Reserve Board is probably using the only tools they have 
> to inject money into the economy. But I wonder if this is the best way.  As 
> I understand it the FRB it is a little (subjectively) government in and of 
> itself and *they* have decided there is a problem, what the problem is, and 
> how to fix it.
>
> I wonder what plan B is? 
>
Japan is several years longer in the problem than the rest of the world, and
eveen with the present regime there traying to re-inflate , not much real
progress. There is even a suggestion that they may try the old idea, rise a row
with the neighbours.

Very low interest rates may be actually causing the problem, allowing
speculators easy cash to play the markets



-- 
greymaus
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#153823 — Re: rationality

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-03 07:18 +1100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d9puokF8709U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153773

"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM0005238ECF23C855@aca41e6b.ipt.aol.com...
> Andrew Swallow wrote:
>> On 01/11/2015 16:07, Osmium wrote:
>> {snip}
>>
>>> Too big to fail is still true. Of course its only been, what, seven
>>> years, since the failure?
>>
>> Banks hit problems every 10 years or so. Seven years means the next
>> problem is growing and should burst in 3-4 years time.
>
> I think the Fed has stopped printing money so the reaction to the
> problem they were trying to "stop" will happen in the next few years.

Nope, you watch. 

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#153750 — Re: rationality

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2015-11-01 13:59 -0800
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<87y4ehfkj4.fsf@lhwserver.localdomain>
In reply to#153735
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
> I don't have the slightest reason to believe the problem has been
> *fixed*. There is one less name on Wall Street, the one allowed to
> fail.  Other than that, the same cast of characters who caused the
> recent problems, instead of being in prison, are left free to organize
> new, and even more complex, methods that will likely result in a
> second failure. Too big to fail is still true. Of course its only
> been, what, seven years, since the failure?
>
> A big component of the '29 failure was banks investing loose money,
> that wasn't theirs, in the stock market. Fortunately, those banks
> failed and disappeared.  In the recent fiasco, they [1] are still
> there and dispensing huge bonuses to undeserving people. The
> undeserving people are those who can make the right guesses about the
> future a few times in a row and have the right contacts.


Lehman Fraudulently Cooked Its Books, Accounting Giant Ernst &amp;
Young Helped, Geithner and Bernanke Winked and Slapped Them on the
Back
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/03/lehman-fraudulently-cooked-its-books-accounting-giant-ernst-young-helped-geithner-and-bernanke-winked-and-slapped-them-on-the-back.html

Against this backdrop, Lehman turned to Repo 105 transactions to
temporarily remove $50 billion of assets from its balance sheet at
first and second quarter ends in 2008 so that it could report
significantly lower net leverage numbers than reality.

... snip ...

Four largest TBTF "banks" still carrying $5.2T "off-book" end of 2008
... over 100 times that of Lehman ... allowed to play by different
rules
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akv_p6LBNIdw&refer=home

posts mentioning "too big to fail" ("too big to prosecute", "too big to
jail")
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail


VP (& former replacement CIA director) ... claims no knowledge of such
activities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
because he was fulltime administration point person deregulating
financial industry ... creating S&L crisis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis
along with other members of his family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_and_loan_crisis#Silverado_Savings_and_Loan
and another
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0D81E3BF937A25753C1A966958260

Later a son, presides over the economic mess, 70 times larger than S&L
crisis. In the S&L crises there were 30,000 criminal referrals and
1,000 criminal convictions ... there have been *ZERO* criminal
referrals/convictions for the economic mess (proportionally, there
should have been 70,000 criminal convictions). If the economic mess had
been limited to 1/100th as big, it would have only been slightly over
half the problem of the S&L crisis.

other ...

Lehman's Gift To Jeb Bush For Funneling Pension Money: A $1.3 Million
Consulting "Job"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/lehmans-gift-jeb-bush-funneling-pension-money-13-million-consulting-job

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate
fraudulent mortgages (posterchild were office bldgs in Dallas/Ft.Worth
area that turned out to be empty lots). In the late 90s, I was asked to
look at improving the integrity of supporting documents as
countermeasures. Then loan originators were securitizing loans&mortgages
and paying for triple-A ratings (when both the sellers and the rating
agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional
testimony). Triple-A rating trumps supporting documentation and they can
start doing no-documentation liar loans. Being able to pay for triple-A
eliminated any reason for loan originators to care about borrowers'
qualifications or loan quality, they could sell off (all loans as fast
as they could be made) to customers restricted to dealing in "safe"
investments (like large pension funds, claim is it accounts for 30% loss
in funds and trillions shortfall for pensions), largely enabling being
able to do over $27T 2001-2008
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

posts mentioning (triple-A rated) toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

If that wasn't enough, paying for triple-A ratings enabled them to
create securitized mortgages designed to fail, pay for the triple-A
rating and sell off to their customer/victims and then take out CDS
gambling bets that they would fail (creating enormous demand for dodgy
mortgages). Later the largest holder of the CDS gambling bets was AIG
... who was negotiating to payoff at 50-60 cents on the dollar when the
sec. of treasury steps in, forces them to sign a document that they
can't sue those making the CDS gambling bets and to take TARP funds to
payoff at face value (AIG is the largest recipient of TARP funds and the
firm formally headed by the sec. of treasury is the largest recipient of
face-value payoffs).

Treasury Department Claims Paulson Never Officially Discussed AIG Bailout
http://shadowproof.com/2015/09/02/treasury-department-claims-paulson-never-officially-discussed-aig-bailout/

Disclaimer: Jan2009 I was asked to HTML'ize the Pecora hearings (30s
senate hearings into crash of '29) with lots of internal hrefs and URLs
between what happened then and what happened this time (comments that
the new congress might have appetite to do something). I work on it for
awhile and then get a call that it won't be needed after all (reference
to enormous piles of wallstreet money totally burying DC). Loans and
mortgages were being laundered through wallstreet as triple-A rated,
securitized instruments largely using real estate market for the
speculation bubble scam. The crash of '29 used the stock market for the
speculation bubble scam (from Pecora testimony):

BROKERS' LOANS AND INDUSTRIAL DEPRESSION

For the purpose of making it perfectly clear that the present
industrial depression was due to the inflation of credit on brokers'
loans, as obtained from the Bureau of Research of the Federal Reserve
Board, the figures show that the inflation of credit for speculative
purposes on stock exchanges were responsible directly for a rise in
the average of quotations of the stocks from sixty in 1922 to 225 in
1929 to 35 in 1932 and that the change in the value of such Stocks
listed on the New York Stock Exchange went through the same identical
changes in almost identical percentages.

... snip ...

posts mentioning Pecora Hearings &/or Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

While the TARP funds was facade that they were to be used to be
off-book toxic assets ... with only $700B, they could have barely
made a dent in the problem

The FEDs fought long, hard, legal battle to prevent public disclosure of
what they were doing behind the scenes ... tens of trillions in ZIRP
funds (claims that TBTF have been making $300B/annum off ZIRP funds) and
buying trillions in offbook toxic assets at 98cents on the dollar. After
loosing the legal battle, Bernanke has press conference where he said
that he had expected the TBTF to use the ZIRP funds to aid mainstreet,
but when they didn't he had no way to force them (but that didn't stop
the ZIRP funds). Note the Fed chairman was supposedly selected in part
because he was depression scholar. However, the Fed had tried something
similar after the crash of 29 and wall street had behaved the same way
... so there should have been *NO* expectation that they would behave
differently this time.

posts mentioning Bernanke (and/or other Fed. chairman)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#bernanke

By comparison, TBTF have been fined a total of $300B in "deferred
prosecution" since the economic mess (not limited to the economic mess
illegal activity, but also manipulating LIBOR, Forex, and other
commodities, money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists,
ROBO-signing mills for fabricating documents for illegal foreclosures,
etc). The joke is that the $300B in fines is so small compared to the
illegal profits that it is just being as cost of TBTF doing illegal
business (especially with no threat of jail time).

posts mentioning LIBOR
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#libor

recent posts mentioning "deferred prosecution":
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#80 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#23 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#44 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 Do we REALLY NEED all this regulatory oversight?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#37 LIBOR: History's Largest Financial Crime that the WSJ and NYT Would Like You to Forget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#57 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#61 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#31 Talk of Criminally Prosecuting Corporations Up, Actual Prosecutions Down

-- 
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#153930 — Re: rationality

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2015-11-04 11:32 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d9utonFg4a6U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153750
"Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:

> Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate
> fraudulent mortgages (posterchild were office bldgs in Dallas/Ft.Worth
> area that turned out to be empty lots).

That reminds me of LBJs boy who dealt in empty tanks, oil tanks or soybean 
oil, I don't remember which  But in the old days they would occasionally 
punish people who committed this kind of fraud. Even this guy whose name I 
can't remember.
---- later ---
Due to the wonders of google a simple search finds the guy, Billy Sol Estes
Just search for <empty tanks lbj>

And both of my guesses were wrong, they were fertilizer tanks. Mythical 
ones. 

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#153942 — Re: rationality

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-04 12:57 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<a7lk3btk9nc0ov05gohcf04fji7hpn85ta@4ax.com>
In reply to#153930
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:32:08 -0600, "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
wrote:
>"Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:
>
>> Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate
>> fraudulent mortgages (posterchild were office bldgs in Dallas/Ft.Worth
>> area that turned out to be empty lots).
>
>That reminds me of LBJs boy who dealt in empty tanks, oil tanks or soybean 
>oil, I don't remember which  But in the old days they would occasionally 
>punish people who committed this kind of fraud. Even this guy whose name I 
>can't remember.
>---- later ---
>Due to the wonders of google a simple search finds the guy, Billy Sol Estes
>Just search for <empty tanks lbj>
>
>And both of my guesses were wrong, they were fertilizer tanks. Mythical 
>ones. 

I remember seeing Billy Sol on television. He could talk well.
-- 
JimP.

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#153975 — Re: rationality

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2015-11-04 22:38 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<n1e1da02ocr@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#153930
On 2015-11-04, Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:
>
>> Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate
>> fraudulent mortgages (posterchild were office bldgs in Dallas/Ft.Worth
>> area that turned out to be empty lots).
>
> That reminds me of LBJs boy who dealt in empty tanks, oil tanks or soybean 
> oil, I don't remember which  But in the old days they would occasionally 
> punish people who committed this kind of fraud. Even this guy whose name I 
> can't remember.
> ---- later ---
> Due to the wonders of google a simple search finds the guy, Billy Sol Estes
> Just search for <empty tanks lbj>
>
> And both of my guesses were wrong, they were fertilizer tanks. Mythical 
> ones. 

    Oh what have you done, Billy Sol, Billy Sol?
    Oh what have you done, darling Billy?
    You took almost every cent
    From the U.S. government,
    Which you spent on fertilizer, which is silly.
      -- Allan Sherman

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#153992 — Re: rationality

FromGreymaus <mausg@mail.com>
Date2015-11-05 10:56 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<slrnn3md4n.35h.mausg@dmaus.org>
In reply to#153930
On 2015-11-04, Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:
>
>> Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate
>> fraudulent mortgages (posterchild were office bldgs in Dallas/Ft.Worth
>> area that turned out to be empty lots).
>
> That reminds me of LBJs boy who dealt in empty tanks, oil tanks or soybean 
> oil, I don't remember which  But in the old days they would occasionally 
> punish people who committed this kind of fraud. Even this guy whose name I 
> can't remember.
> ---- later ---
> Due to the wonders of google a simple search finds the guy, Billy Sol Estes
> Just search for <empty tanks lbj>
>
> And both of my guesses were wrong, they were fertilizer tanks. Mythical 
> ones. 
>

From memory, vegetable oil tanks. Only certain ppeople were allowed to
measure the oil level.


-- 
greymaus
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#153755 — Re: rationality

From"78lp" <78lp@nospam.com>
Date2015-11-02 12:55 +1100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d9nu3uFmqlnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153735

"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:d9mrm9Fe6h3U1@mid.individual.net...
> "78lp" wrote:
>
>> BULLSHIT. Its just avoided another great depression or worse.
>>
>> Yes, it would have been better to have avoided the complete
>> implosion of much of the world financial system, again, but
>> we are getting a lot better at that now and did fix the problem
>> much more quickly this time around. There were lots of
>> depressions in the century before 1929 and just one very
>> severe recession since then.

> I don't have the slightest reason to believe the problem has been *fixed*.

I didn't say anything about fixed.

> There is one less name on Wall Street, the one allowed to fail.

There have been a lot more changes than that.

> Other than that, the same cast of characters who caused the recent 
> problems, instead of being in prison, are left free to organize new, and 
> even more complex, methods that will likely result in a second failure.

But the fundamental problem which produced the last implosion,
bundled sub prime loans getting AAA ratings that they didn't even
come close to qualifying for that allowed operations to put their
surplus cash in those doesn't happen anymore.

> Too big to fail is still true.

It had nothing to do with that. Both Canada and Australia
have MUCH bigger retail banks per capita than the US does
and NOT ONE of theirs imploded spectacularly or even
needed be bailed out by govt, so that clearly isn't the problem.

> Of course its only been, what, seven years, since the failure?

But 80 years since the previous one on anything like that scale.

> A big component of the '29 failure was banks investing loose money, that 
> wasn't theirs, in the stock market.

Nope, it had nothing to do with that.

> Fortunately, those banks failed and disappeared.

And one that survived that fine went down this time.

> In the recent fiasco, they [1] are still there and dispensing huge bonuses 
> to undeserving people.

Yes, but that isn't what imploded much
of the world financial system, again.

> The undeserving people are those who can make the right guesses about the 
> future a few times in a row and have the right contacts.

They don't even need to have made
the right guesses about the future.

> ----------------
> [1]  They don't necessarily call them banks, I include "hedge funds" in 
> the slurry of financial types.

More fool you. We have different words for a reason. 

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#153923 — Re: rationality

FromWalter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
Date2015-11-04 11:48 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<proto-BED114.11482504112015@news.panix.com>
In reply to#153735
In article <d9mrm9Fe6h3U1@mid.individual.net>,
 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:

> "78lp" wrote:
> 
> > BULLSHIT. Its just avoided another great depression or worse.
> >
> > Yes, it would have been better to have avoided the complete
> > implosion of much of the world financial system, again, but
> > we are getting a lot better at that now and did fix the problem
> > much more quickly this time around. There were lots of
> > depressions in the century before 1929 and just one very
> > severe recession since then.
> 
> I don't have the slightest reason to believe the problem has been *fixed*. 
> There is one less name on Wall Street, the one allowed to fail.  Other than 
> that, the same cast of characters who caused the recent problems, instead of 
> being in prison, are left free to organize new, and even more complex, 
> methods that will likely result in a second failure. Too big to fail is 
> still true. Of course its only been, what, seven years, since the failure?
> 
> A big component of the '29 failure was banks investing loose money, that 
> wasn't theirs, in the stock market. Fortunately, those banks failed and 
> disappeared.  In the recent fiasco, they [1] are still there and dispensing 
> huge bonuses to undeserving people. The undeserving people are those who can 
> make the right guesses about the future a few times in a row and have the 
> right contacts.
> ----------------
> [1]  They don't necessarily call them banks, I include "hedge funds" in the 
> slurry of financial types. 

But with hedge funds you know you're gambling. Banks are for keeping 
the rent money, medical emergency, car repair etcetera funds.

-- 
Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greed. Me.

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#153927 — Re: rationality

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2015-11-04 11:07 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d9usb5Ffo6vU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153923
"Walter Bushell" wrote:

> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:

>> I don't have the slightest reason to believe the problem has been 
>> *fixed*.
>> There is one less name on Wall Street, the one allowed to fail.  Other 
>> than
>> that, the same cast of characters who caused the recent problems, instead 
>> of
>> being in prison, are left free to organize new, and even more complex,
>> methods that will likely result in a second failure. Too big to fail is
>> still true. Of course its only been, what, seven years, since the 
>> failure?
>>
>> A big component of the '29 failure was banks investing loose money, that
>> wasn't theirs, in the stock market. Fortunately, those banks failed and
>> disappeared.  In the recent fiasco, they [1] are still there and 
>> dispensing
>> huge bonuses to undeserving people. The undeserving people are those who 
>> can
>> make the right guesses about the future a few times in a row and have the
>> right contacts.
>> ----------------
>> [1]  They don't necessarily call them banks, I include "hedge funds" in 
>> the
>> slurry of financial types.
>
> But with hedge funds you know you're gambling. Banks are for keeping
> the rent money, medical emergency, car repair etcetera funds.

My objection was to the ridiculous tax treatment the organizers in the hedge 
fund business receive. There have been some massive changes in tax law 
during the last 10-20 years, and the hedge fund guys came out as big 
winners.  Note that "massive changes" do not require a lot of words to put 
them into effect it could be a simple paragraph somewhere.  I don't know how 
the proceeds that trickle down to the actual money people are taxed but the 
*managers* are in nirvana. 

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#153914 — Re: rationality

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2015-11-04 07:58 -0800
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<4bf452e2-b664-4bbd-a9eb-d0010bb9a90b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#153706
On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 4:16:23 PM UTC-4, Charles Richmond wrote:
> It is the business of the federal government to make sure that the greedy 
> bastards that run the big companies... do *not* starve out the middle and 
> lower class.  That's why we have anit-trust laws and regulations on work 
> rules.  Government has *not* been doing this job for several decades. 
> Instead the government is helping the rich 1% fill their pockets!!!


"the top 10 percent of wage earners saw a 33 percent rise, while those in the bottom 10 percent experienced a 1 percent _decline_ in their real wages."

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20151101_Widening_Pay_Gap.html


Anyway, as mentioned, there are many people today "tea party" who 
do _not_ believe it is the government's job to interfere.  They
feel if the wealthy become super-wealthy, that's good for everyone!

A kid out of college 35 years ago could get a job at a large corporation
with fringe benefits, reasonable working hours, and an expectation of
security.  It was not guaranteed, of course, but pretty much a given.

Then came "competitiveness" where those workers found themselves out
on the street, or with _steep_ pay and benefit cuts and longer working
hours.  But in the mean time, salaries of the corporate officers
zoomed upward and stock prices did, too.

It was one thing when a company was doing badly and _all_ the 
stakeholders had to take cuts to keep it going--the CEO and
his people taking big pay cuts and loss of perks, dividend
suspected, even bond interest payments deferred.  But that
was then; now all those people are tightly protected while the
workers get screwed.

As mentioned before--in the same day's paper, there was an article
about American Airlines reporting record profits, and another 
article of American Airlines begging the courts to let it
curtain its pensions.  doesn't anyone see a problem with that?

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#153984 — Re: rationality

From"John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com>
Date2015-11-05 13:18 +1100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d9vsknFnn05U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153914

<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
news:4bf452e2-b664-4bbd-a9eb-d0010bb9a90b@googlegroups.com...
> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 4:16:23 PM UTC-4, Charles Richmond wrote:
>> It is the business of the federal government to make sure that the greedy
>> bastards that run the big companies... do *not* starve out the middle and
>> lower class.  That's why we have anit-trust laws and regulations on work
>> rules.  Government has *not* been doing this job for several decades.
>> Instead the government is helping the rich 1% fill their pockets!!!

> "the top 10 percent of wage earners saw a 33 percent rise, while those in 
> the
> bottom 10 percent experienced a 1 percent _decline_ in their real wages."

But those in the bottom 10% are being nothing even remotely like
being starved out when we do in fact have an obesity epidemic.

> http://www.philly.com/philly/business/20151101_Widening_Pay_Gap.html
>
>
> Anyway, as mentioned, there are many people today "tea party"
> who do _not_ believe it is the government's job to interfere.  They
> feel if the wealthy become super-wealthy, that's good for everyone!
>
> A kid out of college 35 years ago could get a job at a large corporation
> with fringe benefits, reasonable working hours, and an expectation of
> security.  It was not guaranteed, of course, but pretty much a given.

Still happens today. Mate of mine's oldest kid has just done just that.
The only thing which has changed is the expectation security, but
plenty of them don't even want that and prefer to move around.

> Then came "competitiveness" where those workers found themselves out
> on the street, or with _steep_ pay and benefit cuts and longer working
> hours.

Plenty of that happened in the 30s.

> But in the mean time, salaries of the corporate officers zoomed upward

Yes.

> and stock prices did, too.

Some certainly did, and quite a few went bust too.

> It was one thing when a company was doing badly and _all_ the
> stakeholders had to take cuts to keep it going--the CEO and
> his people taking big pay cuts and loss of perks, dividend
> suspected, even bond interest payments deferred.  But that
> was then; now all those people are tightly protected

Plenty of the worst performers lose their job.

> while the workers get screwed.

Plenty don't.

> As mentioned before--in the same day's paper, there was an article
> about American Airlines reporting record profits, and another
> article of American Airlines begging the courts to let it
> curtain its pensions.  doesn't anyone see a problem with that?

Not when it can produce the result GM got so recently.

The international airline industry is MUCH more competitive
than the car industry has ever been, essentially because there
are so many countries which keep running their national
airline at a loss until it goes bust completely. 

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#153528 — Re: rationality

FromAndrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com>
Date2015-10-29 16:27 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<vtadnbeHIfM01a_LnZ2dnUU78b2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#153504
On 29/10/2015 04:12, Mike Spencer wrote:
{snip}
> I can't figure what might be the metaphorical "host" for a corporate
> entity.  They take the financial, juridicial, political, social
> environment as a given, just as natural organisms take the natural
> environment as a given.
>
> You might think of a corporation's customers/clients/markets as a sort
> of collective host but that doesn't seem very satisfying.
>

Cities may work as a host for corporations. It is not countries because 
multi-nationals are citizens of the world.

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