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Re: [Poll] Computing favorities

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First post2015-10-11 13:48 +0000
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  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-11 13:48 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-11 14:45 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-11 10:52 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-11 22:18 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 20:05 -0500
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 05:26 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:59 -0500
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 01:19 -0300
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-13 12:27 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 13:40 -0300
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-13 23:17 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:02 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:16 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 17:39 +0100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-13 12:51 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:41 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:35 -0500
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 22:24 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:32 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:25 -0700
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-15 20:07 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-16 10:46 +0100
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 08:58 -0500
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-16 13:52 -0400
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-12 13:09 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-12 08:49 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:39 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 19:03 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-13 20:44 +0200
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:24 -0700
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:51 +1100
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-12 20:34 +0100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-13 07:02 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 09:01 +0100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 09:43 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 15:19 +0100
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 10:21 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-13 13:12 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-12 15:14 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:38 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:17 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:03 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:26 -0700
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:47 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:27 -0700
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-16 07:48 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-16 13:55 -0400
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 18:14 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:35 -0500
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-17 07:02 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-19 13:09 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-19 15:14 -0500
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-20 07:02 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 16:47 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-16 14:26 +0100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-14 13:00 +0100
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:00 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 14:20 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:44 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-16 18:48 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-17 15:58 +1100
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-18 17:37 +1100
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 11:12 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-18 13:24 -0400
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 19:21 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-19 15:28 +1100
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:30 +1100
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:31 +1100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 09:04 +1100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:54 +1100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:59 +1100
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 10:22 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 20:42 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:40 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 22:39 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 18:08 -0500
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:15 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 20:17 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:12 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:22 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 20:06 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:38 -0700
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-16 22:33 -0300
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:38 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:40 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-12 13:48 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 16:04 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-13 12:25 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 15:49 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 11:30 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:38 -0500
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:51 +1100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:16 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:14 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-12 16:19 -0700
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 00:17 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 01:33 -0300
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 16:00 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-13 07:46 +0100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 11:42 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:53 +1100
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 20:08 +1100
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:17 -0300
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:44 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 21:09 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-19 15:19 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-19 20:45 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:57 -0500
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 20:16 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:12 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-13 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-14 16:20 +0200
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:09 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-16 21:33 +0200
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 07:03 +1100
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-15 23:04 +0200
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-16 20:24 +0200
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-17 11:18 +0000
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-17 19:06 +0200
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-17 18:34 +0000
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-17 21:31 +0200
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-17 13:22 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:45 +1100
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-17 06:47 -0500
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 05:00 +1100
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 15:23 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:49 +1100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-13 20:47 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:54 +1100
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:29 +1100
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 14:42 -0500
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 11:21 +1100
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:32 +1100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-13 10:00 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 15:49 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-14 13:24 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-14 17:35 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-14 18:48 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:42 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:20 -0500
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-15 06:49 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:40 -0500
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-17 13:22 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:47 +1100
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-11 15:11 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 15:01 -0400
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-12 19:56 +0000

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#152942

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-15 09:04 +1100
Message-ID<d881rbFho4fU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152892

"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM00052211489B9D8F@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com...
> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>>Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of
>>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't.
>>>
>>>Interesting.  I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none
>>>of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them.
>>
>> Farmers haven't cared about the phase of the moon for half
>> a century or more, so the calendars don't need the phase.
>>
>> The family farm is pretty much done

Nope.

>> - industrial operations don't use
>> folklore to grow crops, they use science.

And so do family farms.

>>>>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>>>>> by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.

>>>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase.  Modern
>>>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report.

>>> Which has to do with the occurrence of
>>> the phase of the moon within a season.

>> No, it has to do with weather and climatology.

> Which are determined by the position of the Earth's orbit.

But not by the phase of the moon.

> Counting the phases of the Moon helps keep track of the timing
> of the seasons within a single orbit of the Earth around the Sun.

All you need is the calendar with no phases for that.

> Looking at a paper calender gives an overview of
> the schedules of the tasks which need to be done.

But the phases of the moon don’t help with that.

> That why "first full moon after
> crossing the n" is important.

Not anymore. The weather forecast
is MUCH more important now. 

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#152856

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-14 12:54 +1100
Message-ID<d85qujFe4uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152789

"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM000521FBFD481201@aca20236.ipt.aol.com...
> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015 
>>>>>> calendar
>>>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to 
>>>>> have
>>>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena 
>>>> (aside
>>>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones 
>>>> to
>>>> look at the sky anyway.
>>>>
>>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
>>>knowledge of any kind.
>>
>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of
>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't.
>
> Interesting.  I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none
> of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them.
>
>>
>>>
>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>>>by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>
>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase.  Modern
>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report.
>
> Which has to do with the occurrence of the phase of the moon within a 
> season.

Like hell it does. 

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#152857

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-14 12:59 +1100
Message-ID<d85rhnFhunU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152856

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:d85qujFe4uU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
> news:PM000521FBFD481201@aca20236.ipt.aol.com...
>> Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015 
>>>>>>> calendar
>>>>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena 
>>>>> (aside
>>>>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones 
>>>>> to
>>>>> look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
>>>>knowledge of any kind.
>>>
>>> A quick sampling of four calendars on Amazon.com show that half of
>>> them contained moon phase information, half didn't.
>>
>> Interesting.  I live in an agriculture-based part of the state; none
>> of the give-away calenders had moon phases on them.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>>>>by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>
>>> Farmers in the middle ages planted based on the moon phase.  Modern
>>> farmers plant based on the soil conditions and weather report.
>>
>> Which has to do with the occurrence of the phase of the moon within a 
>> season.
>
> Like hell it does.

And its much better to get the soil conditions and weather report
directly from the trivially available modern sources now than from
a calendar. 

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#152735

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-12 10:22 -0500
Message-ID<uujn1b5cpqs7u03b8jtm1i28qst2r2o51k@4ax.com>
In reply to#152731
On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015 calendar
>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>
>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to have
>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>> years.
>>
>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena (aside
>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones to
>> look at the sky anyway.
>>
>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
>knowledge of any kind.
>
>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>
>/BAH

Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on
their desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they
disliked farmers.
-- 
JimP.

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#152748

FromBob Eager <news0005@eager.cx>
Date2015-10-12 20:42 +0000
Message-ID<d82ka3Fni3nU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152735
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:

> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>
>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in
>>>> some years.
>>>
>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>
>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge of
>>any kind.
>>
>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined by
>>moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>
>>/BAH
> 
> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on their
> desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they disliked
> farmers.

It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!

 http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
 http://www.mirrorservice.org

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#152755

FromHuge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid>
Date2015-10-12 21:40 +0000
Message-ID<d82nn3F75hdU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152748
On 2015-10-12, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>
>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in
>>>>> some years.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>
>>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge of
>>>any kind.
>>>
>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined by
>>>moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>
>>>/BAH
>> 
>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on their
>> desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they disliked
>> farmers.
>
> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>
>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html

Is no-one posting in this thread (not you, Bob) aware of the fact that two of the world's major religions use the lunar calendar?


-- 
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              attitude, that's your problem.

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#152756

FromBob Eager <news0005@eager.cx>
Date2015-10-12 22:39 +0000
Message-ID<d82r4pFni3nU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152755
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 21:40:51 +0000, Huge wrote:

> On 2015-10-12, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it
>>>>>> in some years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge
>>>>of any kind.
>>>>
>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>>>>by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>>
>>>>/BAH
>>> 
>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on
>>> their desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they
>>> disliked farmers.
>>
>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>
>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
> 
> Is no-one posting in this thread (not you, Bob) aware of the fact that
> two of the world's major religions use the lunar calendar?

Not to mention roughly half the population! :-)



-- 
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#152758

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2015-10-12 18:08 -0500
Message-ID<mvheds$nho$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152755
On 10/12/2015 4:40 PM, Huge wrote:
> On 2015-10-12, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in
>>>>>> some years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>
>>>> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge of
>>>> any kind.
>>>>
>>>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined by
>>>> moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>>
>>>> /BAH
>>>
>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on their
>>> desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they disliked
>>> farmers.
>>
>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>
>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
> 
> Is no-one posting in this thread (not you, Bob) aware of the fact that two of the world's major religions use the lunar calendar?
> 
Two? I think most of them do (other than Christianity), whether or not
they still use it for counting years. Probably because back in the
day, the moon provided the one calendar utility everybody had access to.

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#152788

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Message-ID<PM000521FBD79CF07A@aca20236.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#152758
Dave Garland wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 4:40 PM, Huge wrote:
>> On 2015-10-12, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in
>>>>>>> some years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>>> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>>> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>>> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge of
>>>>> any kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined by
>>>>> moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>>>
>>>>> /BAH
>>>>
>>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on their
>>>> desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they disliked
>>>> farmers.
>>>
>>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>>
>>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
>>
>> Is no-one posting in this thread (not you, Bob) aware of the fact that two
of the world's major religions use the lunar calendar?
>>
> Two? I think most of them do (other than Christianity),

Easter.

/BAH


> whether or not
> they still use it for counting years. Probably because back in the
> day, the moon provided the one calendar utility everybody had access to.
>

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#152843

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-13 17:15 -0500
Message-ID<mvjvlu$kvn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152758
"Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message 
news:mvheds$nho$1@dont-email.me...
> On 10/12/2015 4:40 PM, Huge wrote:
>> On 2015-10-12, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> some years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>>> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>>> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>>> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge 
>>>>> of
>>>>> any kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined 
>>>>> by
>>>>> moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>>>
>>>>> /BAH
>>>>
>>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on 
>>>> their
>>>> desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they 
>>>> disliked
>>>> farmers.
>>>
>>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>>
>>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
>>
>> Is no-one posting in this thread (not you, Bob) aware of the fact that 
>> two of the world's major religions use the lunar calendar?
>>
> Two? I think most of them do (other than Christianity), whether or not
> they still use it for counting years. Probably because back in the
> day, the moon provided the one calendar utility everybody had access to.
>

I am aware that B & H Camera in New York City is run by Jews.  B & H Camera 
is closed on the Jewish sabbath and on Jewish holidays.  During the sabbath 
and holiday times, B & H Camera will *not* accept even an online order!!! 
You have to wait until the holy day is over... before you post your online 
order.

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#152766

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-12 20:17 -0500
Message-ID<usmo1bhfisi7qmah00upfj3mv60ico8fh0@4ax.com>
In reply to#152755
On 12 Oct 2015 21:40:51 GMT, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>On 2015-10-12, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in
>>>>>> some years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge of
>>>>any kind.
>>>>
>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined by
>>>>moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>>
>>>>/BAH
>>> 
>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on their
>>> desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they disliked
>>> farmers.
>>
>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>
>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
>
>Is no-one posting in this thread (not you, Bob) aware of the fact that two of the world's major religions use the lunar calendar?

I'm aware of it to.
-- 
JimP.

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#152808

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2015-10-13 12:12 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1510131210040.2103@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#152755
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, Huge wrote:

> On 2015-10-12, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in
>>>>>> some years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>
>>>> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge of
>>>> any kind.
>>>>
>>>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined by
>>>> moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>>
>>>> /BAH
>>>
>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on their
>>> desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they disliked
>>> farmers.
>>
>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>
>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
>
> Is no-one posting in this thread (not you, Bob) aware of the fact that 
> two of the world's major religions use the lunar calendar?
>
None of us are religious enough?

I was going to post something, then wasn't sure.

Somewhere I have a single copy of one of the early home computer 
magazines, one of the ones that didn't last many issues, maybe "ROM".

And there's an article in there by Ted Nelson (of "Computer Lib/Computer 
Dream" fame) about calculating the date for Easter, so it gave the needed 
background to writing such a program.

   Michael

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#152844

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-13 17:22 -0500
Message-ID<mvk03t$mef$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152808
"Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message 
news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1510131210040.2103@darkstar.example.org...
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015, Huge wrote:
>
>> On 2015-10-12, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> some years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>>> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>>> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>>> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge 
>>>>> of
>>>>> any kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined 
>>>>> by
>>>>> moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>>>
>>>>> /BAH
>>>>
>>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on 
>>>> their
>>>> desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they 
>>>> disliked
>>>> farmers.
>>>
>>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>>
>>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
>>
>> Is no-one posting in this thread (not you, Bob) aware of the fact that 
>> two of the world's major religions use the lunar calendar?
>>
> None of us are religious enough?
>
> I was going to post something, then wasn't sure.
>
> Somewhere I have a single copy of one of the early home computer 
> magazines, one of the ones that didn't last many issues, maybe "ROM".
>
> And there's an article in there by Ted Nelson (of "Computer Lib/Computer 
> Dream" fame) about calculating the date for Easter, so it gave the needed 
> background to writing such a program.
>

In Donald Knuth's _The Art of Computer Programming: Volume 1--Fundamental 
Algortithms_, in one of the exercise sections... Knuth gives the algorithm 
for calculating the date of Easter, an algorithm developed hundreds of years 
ago. You can see that algorithm on this web page:

http://tinyurl.com/nwwdp78


Please note that Easter and Orthodox Easter often do *not* fall on the same 
date.  See the following webpage:

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/easter1.html

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#152785

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Message-ID<PM000521FBCF78AF57@aca20236.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#152748
Bob Eager wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>
>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in
>>>>> some years.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>
>>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge of
>>>any kind.
>>>
>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined by
>>>moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>
>>>/BAH
>>
>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on their
>> desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they disliked
>> farmers.
>
> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>
>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html

Wow!  I've never heard of that.  Is there a reason someone would
want to do that?

/BAH

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#152833

FromBob Eager <news0005@eager.cx>
Date2015-10-13 20:06 +0000
Message-ID<d856hqFq7foU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152785
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:34:40 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:

> Bob Eager wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>>
>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it
>>>>>> in some years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge
>>>>of any kind.
>>>>
>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>>>>by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>>
>>>>/BAH
>>>
>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on
>>> their desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they
>>> disliked farmers.
>>
>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>
>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
> 
> Wow!  I've never heard of that.  Is there a reason someone would want to
> do that?

because he can.



-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

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 http://www.mirrorservice.org

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#152864

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2015-10-13 20:38 -0700
Message-ID<tdjr1btkl94d783bnfr0gcd0fdiesoc8f8@4ax.com>
In reply to#152833
On 13 Oct 2015 20:06:18 GMT, Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:34:40 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
>
>> Bob Eager wrote:

[snip]

>>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>>
>>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
>> 
>> Wow!  I've never heard of that.  Is there a reason someone would want to
>> do that?

     They also have every four weeks.  I can understand that being
useful in an industry that is week-oriented.  I modified A/R software
for a wholesaler of fruits and vegetables.  Their terms were Net 7.

>because he can.

     Possibly, it was for fun or to have a brag.

     How about asking your ISP why those clients use the lunar billing
option?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#152895

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Message-ID<PM00052210EEA9E689@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#152833
Bob Eager wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:34:40 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
>
>> Bob Eager wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:22:25 -0500, JimP wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015
>>>>>>>> calendar which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to
>>>>>>>> see those expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to
>>>>>>> have the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it
>>>>>>> in some years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena
>>>>>> (aside from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their
>>>>>> smartphones to look at the sky anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming knowledge
>>>>>of any kind.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>>>>>by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>>>
>>>>>/BAH
>>>>
>>>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on
>>>> their desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they
>>>> disliked farmers.
>>>
>>> It could be useful. My ISP offers an option for lunar billing!
>>>
>>>  http://aa.net.uk/legal-billing.html
>>
>> Wow!  I've never heard of that.  Is there a reason someone would want to
>> do that?
>
> because he can.

OK.  I couldn't think of anything which would require that kind of
billing.

/BAH

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#153015

FromJoy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid>
Date2015-10-16 22:33 -0300
Message-ID<u3932b1i96nivqfvuhnmlaaovok6omoelv@4ax.com>
In reply to#152785
On 13 Oct 2015 12:34:40 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:

> Wow!  I've never heard of that.  Is there a reason someone would
> want to do that?

When I was married to an astronomer, his work schedule was set by the
phases of the moon.  "When the moon comes up, I come down."

-- 
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

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#152786

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Message-ID<PM000521FBCA10A605@aca20236.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#152735
JimP wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015 calendar
>>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>
>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to have
>>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>>> years.
>>>
>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena (aside
>>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones to
>>> look at the sky anyway.
>>>
>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
>>knowledge of any kind.
>>
>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>>by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>
>>/BAH
>
> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on
> their desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they
> disliked farmers.

Pagan?!!!  Farming and fishing are run by moon phases.  I remember
reading somewhere that castrations were also done based on the moon
phase; IIRC, a full moon caused more bleeding but I never got around
to checking that one.   All the farmers in my life have died.

/BAH

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#152804

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-13 10:38 -0500
Message-ID<699q1bdm5vpljir55sj3039ls0tsk6ospp@4ax.com>
In reply to#152786
On 13 Oct 2015 12:34:37 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>JimP wrote:
>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon?  I could not find a 2015 calendar
>>>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those
>>>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I hadnt' thought about that.  But it wasn't uncommon years back to have
>>>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some
>>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena (aside
>>>> from the Kardashians).  They're too busy staring at their smartphones to
>>>> look at the sky anyway.
>>>>
>>>I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago.  Last year every
>>>calendar I looked at didn't have the phases.  I couldn't tell if the
>>>super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data.  It marks an
>>>indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming
>>>knowledge of any kind.
>>>
>>>I've always noticed phases of the moon.  Some holidays are determined
>>>by moon phases within a season.  People plant based on the moon phase.
>>>
>>>/BAH
>>
>> Years ago I heard some induhviduals complain about lunar phases on
>> their desk calendars. They felt it was 'pagan'. I asked them why they
>> disliked farmers.
>
>Pagan?!!!  Farming and fishing are run by moon phases.  I remember
>reading somewhere that castrations were also done based on the moon
>phase; IIRC, a full moon caused more bleeding but I never got around
>to checking that one.   All the farmers in my life have died.
>
>/BAH

Think 'concerned city people who worry' for their claim havng lunar
phases on the calendar is 'pagan'. I just think of the claimers as
idiots.

-- 
JimP.

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