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| Started by | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| First post | 2015-10-11 13:48 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-10-12 19:56 +0000 |
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Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-11 13:48 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-11 14:45 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-11 10:52 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-11 22:18 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 20:05 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 05:26 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:59 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 01:19 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-13 12:27 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 13:40 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-13 23:17 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:02 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:16 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 17:39 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-13 12:51 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:41 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:35 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 22:24 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:32 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:25 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-15 20:07 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-16 10:46 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 08:58 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-16 13:52 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-12 13:09 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-12 08:49 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:39 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 19:03 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-13 20:44 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:24 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:51 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-12 20:34 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-13 07:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 09:01 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 09:43 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-13 15:19 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 10:21 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-13 13:12 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-12 15:14 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:38 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:17 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:03 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:26 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:47 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-15 16:27 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-16 07:48 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-16 13:55 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 18:14 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:35 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-17 07:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-19 13:09 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-19 15:14 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-20 07:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 16:47 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-16 14:26 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-14 13:00 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-14 10:00 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 14:20 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:44 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-16 18:48 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-17 15:58 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-18 17:37 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 11:12 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-18 13:24 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-18 19:21 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-10-19 15:28 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:30 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:31 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 09:04 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:54 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:59 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 10:22 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 20:42 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:40 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 22:39 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 18:08 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:15 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 20:17 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:12 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:22 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 20:06 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:38 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-16 22:33 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:38 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 20:40 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-12 13:48 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 16:04 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-13 12:25 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 15:49 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 11:30 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:38 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:51 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:16 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 12:14 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-12 16:19 -0700
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 00:17 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 01:33 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 16:00 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-13 07:46 +0100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-13 11:42 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:53 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 20:08 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:17 -0300
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:44 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-16 21:09 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-19 15:19 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-19 20:45 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:57 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 20:16 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:12 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-13 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-14 16:20 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:09 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-16 21:33 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 07:03 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-15 23:04 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-16 20:24 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-17 11:18 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-17 19:06 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-17 18:34 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-17 21:31 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-17 13:22 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:45 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-17 06:47 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-18 05:00 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-10-24 15:23 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:49 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-13 20:47 +0200
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 08:54 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 06:29 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 14:42 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-16 11:21 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-16 13:04 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 15:32 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-13 10:00 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 15:49 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-14 13:24 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-14 17:35 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-14 18:48 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:42 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:20 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-15 06:49 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-16 14:40 -0500
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-17 13:22 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:47 +1100
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-11 15:11 +0000
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 15:01 -0400
Re: [Poll] Computing favorities pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-12 19:56 +0000
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-14 12:53 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <d85qsnFdp8U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #152787 |
"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message news:PM000521FBB71BC6E3@aca20236.ipt.aol.com... > Charles Richmond wrote: >> "jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message >> news:PM000521E851B838E3@aca413fe.ipt.aol.com... >>> Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon? I could not find a 2015 >>>>>> calendar >>>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those >>>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars. >>>>>> >>>>> I hadnt' thought about that. But it wasn't uncommon years back to >>>>> have >>>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some >>>>> years. >>>> >>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena >>>> (aside >>>> from the Kardashians). They're too busy staring at their smartphones >>>> to >>>> look at the sky anyway. >>>> >>> I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago. Last year every >>> calendar I looked at didn't have the phases. I couldn't tell if the >>> super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data. It marks an >>> indication of useful knowledge being lost, e.g., no farming >>> knowledge of any kind. >>> >>> I've always noticed phases of the moon. Some holidays are determined >>> by moon phases within a season. People plant based on the moon phase. >>> >> >> BAH, I'm sure you can find a computer program that will generate the >> dates >> of the phases of the moon for you. Then you can "pencil them in" on the >> calendar you already have. > > I did that (pencil them in). I'm simply noting that noone seems to miss > the calender data. I find that fact odd. I don’t. Those who need the moons have plenty of other much better sources of that than a calendar now like their smartphone or computer or the net. Tides are much better obtained that way than from a calendar etc.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-13 20:08 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <d8400cFg8irU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #152731 |
"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message news:PM000521E851B838E3@aca413fe.ipt.aol.com... > Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote: >>> >>>> Did it include the phases of the moon? I could not find a 2015 >>>> calendar >>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those >>>> expensive calendars were real calendars. >>>> >>> I hadnt' thought about that. But it wasn't uncommon years back to have >>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some >>> years. >> >> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena >> (aside >> from the Kardashians). They're too busy staring at their smartphones to >> look at the sky anyway. > I started noticing the absence about 4 years ago. Last year > every calendar I looked at didn't have the phases. I couldn't > tell if the super expensive calenders sold at B&N had the data. > It marks an indication of useful knowledge being lost, Pigs arse it does. There is more than just fucking calendars. > e.g., no farming knowledge of any kind. Even sillier than you usually manage. > I've always noticed phases of the moon. Your problem. > Some holidays are determined > by moon phases within a season. And even someone as stupid as you can see the holidays on the fucking calendar. > People plant based on the moon phase. Pigs arse they do, and they don’t have to use a printed fucking calendar even if they do.
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| From | Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-14 12:17 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <0fss1bh62k32jrp0a3hppqoa0rktn7srhi@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #152731 |
On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > Last year every > calendar I looked at didn't have the phases. I was surprised to see that mine doesn't. I hadn't noticed because I've been getting them off Weather Underground's website. When I was younger, I took my vacation at the full moon in June. In June so that I could be sure of getting back to camp by dark, at the full moon so that it wouldn't matter if I didn't. But no matter how many times I figure it out, I can't remember whether it's the days before the full moon or the days after that provide light after sunset. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mvm6fv21lbh@news4.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #152906 |
On 2015-10-14, Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote: > On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > >> Last year every calendar I looked at didn't have the phases. > > I was surprised to see that mine doesn't. I hadn't noticed because > I've been getting them off Weather Underground's website. I don't use paper calendars much, especially now that I've discovered that my flip phone (LG A341) has a handy calendar built in. However, we do still keep the calendar from the city that shows garbage pickup dates. And - I just checked - it shows phases of the moon. > When I was younger, I took my vacation at the full moon in June. In > June so that I could be sure of getting back to camp by dark, at the > full moon so that it wouldn't matter if I didn't. Clever. > But no matter how many times I figure it out, I can't remember whether > it's the days before the full moon or the days after that provide > light after sunset. Before full moon the moon would be up earlier and would be providing light by the time it gets dark. After full moon it would rise after sunset - you'd get lots of light, but later at night, and there'd be a dark period before it rises. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
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| From | "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 14:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mvrjuc$50i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #152921 |
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message news:mvm6fv21lbh@news4.newsguy.com... > On 2015-10-14, Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote: > >> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> Last year every calendar I looked at didn't have the phases. >> >> I was surprised to see that mine doesn't. I hadn't noticed because >> I've been getting them off Weather Underground's website. > > I don't use paper calendars much, especially now that I've discovered > that my flip phone (LG A341) has a handy calendar built in. However, > we do still keep the calendar from the city that shows garbage pickup > dates. And - I just checked - it shows phases of the moon. > Does your garbage pick-up calendar show the phases of the garbage truck??? ;-) -- numerist at aquaporin4 dot com
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 21:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mvrp1f0bdh@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #153009 |
On 2015-10-16, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote: > "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message > news:mvm6fv21lbh@news4.newsguy.com... > >> On 2015-10-14, Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Last year every calendar I looked at didn't have the phases. >>> >>> I was surprised to see that mine doesn't. I hadn't noticed because >>> I've been getting them off Weather Underground's website. >> >> I don't use paper calendars much, especially now that I've discovered >> that my flip phone (LG A341) has a handy calendar built in. However, >> we do still keep the calendar from the city that shows garbage pickup >> dates. And - I just checked - it shows phases of the moon. > > Does your garbage pick-up calendar show the phases of the garbage truck??? > ;-) Actually, it does. Regular garbage this week, recycling next week, and green waste pickup changes from weekly to biweekly in December. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
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| From | "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-19 15:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n03j5c$9ki$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #153011 |
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message news:mvrp1f0bdh@news6.newsguy.com... > On 2015-10-16, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote: > >> "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message >> news:mvm6fv21lbh@news4.newsguy.com... >> >>> On 2015-10-14, Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Last year every calendar I looked at didn't have the phases. >>>> >>>> I was surprised to see that mine doesn't. I hadn't noticed because >>>> I've been getting them off Weather Underground's website. >>> >>> I don't use paper calendars much, especially now that I've discovered >>> that my flip phone (LG A341) has a handy calendar built in. However, >>> we do still keep the calendar from the city that shows garbage pickup >>> dates. And - I just checked - it shows phases of the moon. >> >> Does your garbage pick-up calendar show the phases of the garbage >> truck??? >> ;-) > > Actually, it does. Regular garbage this week, recycling next week, > and green waste pickup changes from weekly to biweekly in December. > So the "waxing and waining" of the garbage truck... means that on the days of the "new" truck, *no* garbage truck shows up at all??? ;-) -- numerist at aquaporin4 dot com
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-19 20:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n03kos1bjc@news4.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #153102 |
On 2015-10-19, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote: > "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message > news:mvrp1f0bdh@news6.newsguy.com... > >> On 2015-10-16, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote: >> >>> "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:mvm6fv21lbh@news4.newsguy.com... >>> >>>> On 2015-10-14, Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12 Oct 2015 13:09:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Last year every calendar I looked at didn't have the phases. >>>>> >>>>> I was surprised to see that mine doesn't. I hadn't noticed because >>>>> I've been getting them off Weather Underground's website. >>>> >>>> I don't use paper calendars much, especially now that I've discovered >>>> that my flip phone (LG A341) has a handy calendar built in. However, >>>> we do still keep the calendar from the city that shows garbage pickup >>>> dates. And - I just checked - it shows phases of the moon. >>> >>> Does your garbage pick-up calendar show the phases of the garbage >>> truck??? >>> ;-) >> >> Actually, it does. Regular garbage this week, recycling next week, >> and green waste pickup changes from weekly to biweekly in December. > > So the "waxing and waining" of the garbage truck... means that on the days > of the "new" truck, *no* garbage truck shows up at all??? ;-) It's there, but it's empty. But we don't have much garbage to put out on those days anyway. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
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| From | "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-12 15:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mvh6ok$r2t$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #152706 |
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message news:mven85023m7@news7.newsguy.com... > On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote: > >> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote: >> >>> Did it include the phases of the moon? I could not find a 2015 calendar >>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those >>> expensive calendars were real calendars. >>> >> I hadnt' thought about that. But it wasn't uncommon years back to have >> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some >> years. > > I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena (aside > from the Kardashians). They're too busy staring at their smartphones to > look at the sky anyway. > Anyway, I'm sure that the smart phones have an app for the phases of the moon. ;-) -- numerist at aquaporin4 dot com
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| From | JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-12 20:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <9omo1b1pbtkf63bgtvj9evhr50lbsg55kj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #152750 |
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:57:51 -0500, "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote: >"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message >news:mven85023m7@news7.newsguy.com... >> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote: >>> >>>> Did it include the phases of the moon? I could not find a 2015 calendar >>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those >>>> expensive calendars were real calendars. >>>> >>> I hadnt' thought about that. But it wasn't uncommon years back to have >>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some >>> years. >> >> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena (aside >> from the Kardashians). They're too busy staring at their smartphones to >> look at the sky anyway. >> > >Anyway, I'm sure that the smart phones have an app for the phases of the >moon. ;-) There is an app that you point your cell phone at the night sky, and the app tells you the names of the constellations and some of the stars. -- JimP.
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-13 12:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM000521FBADABBF0D@aca20236.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #152765 |
JimP wrote: > On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:57:51 -0500, "Charles Richmond" > <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote: > >>"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message >>news:mven85023m7@news7.newsguy.com... >>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote: >>>> >>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon? I could not find a 2015 calendar >>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those >>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars. >>>>> >>>> I hadnt' thought about that. But it wasn't uncommon years back to have >>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some >>>> years. >>> >>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena (aside >>> from the Kardashians). They're too busy staring at their smartphones to >>> look at the sky anyway. >>> >> >>Anyway, I'm sure that the smart phones have an app for the phases of the >>moon. ;-) > > There is an app that you point your cell phone at the night sky, and > the app tells you the names of the constellations and some of the > stars. How does it do that? GPS gives a location but not a direction...right? /BAH
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| From | scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) |
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| Date | 2015-10-13 13:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lr7Tx.16673$p53.3874@fx07.iad> |
| In reply to | #152783 |
jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >JimP wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:57:51 -0500, "Charles Richmond" >> <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote: >> >>>"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message >>>news:mven85023m7@news7.newsguy.com... >>>> On 2015-10-11, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015, jmfbahciv wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Did it include the phases of the moon? I could not find a 2015 calendar >>>>>> which had them; I wasn't going to spend $8 on one just to see those >>>>>> expensive calendars were real calendars. >>>>>> >>>>> I hadnt' thought about that. But it wasn't uncommon years back to have >>>>> the phase of the moon on a calendar, but I havent' noticed it in some >>>>> years. >>>> >>>> I suspect that most people no longer care about celestial phenomena (aside >>>> from the Kardashians). They're too busy staring at their smartphones to >>>> look at the sky anyway. >>>> >>> >>>Anyway, I'm sure that the smart phones have an app for the phases of the >>>moon. ;-) >> >> There is an app that you point your cell phone at the night sky, and >> the app tells you the names of the constellations and some of the >> stars. > >How does it do that? GPS gives a location but not a direction...right? Camera.
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| From | rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) |
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| Date | 2015-10-13 14:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <561d0ef7$0$1707$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> |
| In reply to | #152790 |
Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote: +--------------- | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: | >JimP wrote: | >> There is an app that you point your cell phone at the night sky, and | >> the app tells you the names of the constellations and some of the | >> stars. | > | >How does it do that? GPS gives a location but not a direction...right? | | Camera. +--------------- I have the Google Sky Map app on my phone, and it doesn't use the camera at all [e.g., works fine on a cloudy day or even indoors!]. Instead, it uses: 1. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out your location [i.e., *will* work just fine with GPS turned off]. 2. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out what the date & time are. 3. The internal 3-axis accelerometers to figure out which way is "down", and thus the attitude of the phone [where it's pointing relative to face-down]. 4. The internal 3-axis Hall-effect sensors to figure out where "North" is. [And, yes, a nearby magnet will confuse it!] Given all four of the above [and its built-in database], it knows all it needs to show you what's in the sky that the phone is pointing to. Thus, as I noted above, it works fine indoors in a room with no windows. Note that if you point it at some star and then rotate the phone in the plane of the display [keeping that star centered], the displayed sky chart *doesn't* rotate w.r.t. the real sky [though the labels "pop" at times as they switch to a different rasterization(?) to remain roughly upright]. -Rob ----- Rob Warnock <rpw3@rpw3.org> 627 26th Avenue <http://rpw3.org/> San Mateo, CA 94403
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-14 14:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM0005221105C001AD@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #152797 |
Rob Warnock wrote: > Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote: > +--------------- > | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: > | >JimP wrote: > | >> There is an app that you point your cell phone at the night sky, and > | >> the app tells you the names of the constellations and some of the > | >> stars. > | > > | >How does it do that? GPS gives a location but not a direction...right? > | > | Camera. > +--------------- > > I have the Google Sky Map app on my phone, and it doesn't use > the camera at all [e.g., works fine on a cloudy day or even > indoors!]. Instead, it uses: > > 1. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out your > location [i.e., *will* work just fine with GPS turned off]. > > 2. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out what > the date & time are. > > 3. The internal 3-axis accelerometers to figure out which way > is "down", and thus the attitude of the phone [where it's > pointing relative to face-down]. > > 4. The internal 3-axis Hall-effect sensors to figure out where > "North" is. [And, yes, a nearby magnet will confuse it!] Good thing computers don't use RP06s or RP04s anymore. > > Given all four of the above [and its built-in database], > it knows all it needs to show you what's in the sky that > the phone is pointing to. Thus, as I noted above, it works > fine indoors in a room with no windows. > > Note that if you point it at some star and then rotate the > phone in the plane of the display [keeping that star centered], > the displayed sky chart *doesn't* rotate w.r.t. the real sky > [though the labels "pop" at times as they switch to a > different rasterization(?) to remain roughly upright]. Does working in a power plant destroy a smart phone? /BAH
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-14 16:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ut42fc-6r5.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #152890 |
In article <PM0005221105C001AD@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com>, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >Rob Warnock wrote: >> Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote: >> +--------------- >> | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >> | >JimP wrote: >> | >> There is an app that you point your cell phone at the night sky, and >> | >> the app tells you the names of the constellations and some of the >> | >> stars. >> | > >> | >How does it do that? GPS gives a location but not a direction...right? >> | >> | Camera. >> +--------------- >> >> I have the Google Sky Map app on my phone, and it doesn't use >> the camera at all [e.g., works fine on a cloudy day or even >> indoors!]. Instead, it uses: >> >> 1. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out your >> location [i.e., *will* work just fine with GPS turned off]. >> >> 2. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out what >> the date & time are. >> >> 3. The internal 3-axis accelerometers to figure out which way >> is "down", and thus the attitude of the phone [where it's >> pointing relative to face-down]. >> >> 4. The internal 3-axis Hall-effect sensors to figure out where >> "North" is. [And, yes, a nearby magnet will confuse it!] > >Good thing computers don't use RP06s or RP04s anymore. > >> >> Given all four of the above [and its built-in database], >> it knows all it needs to show you what's in the sky that >> the phone is pointing to. Thus, as I noted above, it works >> fine indoors in a room with no windows. >> >> Note that if you point it at some star and then rotate the >> phone in the plane of the display [keeping that star centered], >> the displayed sky chart *doesn't* rotate w.r.t. the real sky >> [though the labels "pop" at times as they switch to a >> different rasterization(?) to remain roughly upright]. > >Does working in a power plant destroy a smart phone? Not if it is attached to a human. The exposure limits for humans to exposure to heat, cold, magnetism, electric fields, water and other liquids, non-athmospheric gases, radiation etc are from 4 orders of magnitude lower that what would damage a water-resistant smartphone. That said, the phone may not work as intended while in the plant. I had the pleasure of standing right on top of a 90MW generator a few months ago, around 3 feet from the stator field. That was a magnetic experience, and not for having any metal on or in your body, We had to sign several disclaimers to be let in, as well as get a security clearance. The phones stopped working even before we put them away in the adjoining room. But they were not damaged. -- mrr
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-15 12:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM0005222472D5DAC6@aca43228.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #152898 |
Morten Reistad wrote: > In article <PM0005221105C001AD@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com>, > jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>Rob Warnock wrote: >>> Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote: >>> +--------------- >>> | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>> | >JimP wrote: >>> | >> There is an app that you point your cell phone at the night sky, and >>> | >> the app tells you the names of the constellations and some of the >>> | >> stars. >>> | > >>> | >How does it do that? GPS gives a location but not a direction...right? >>> | >>> | Camera. >>> +--------------- >>> >>> I have the Google Sky Map app on my phone, and it doesn't use >>> the camera at all [e.g., works fine on a cloudy day or even >>> indoors!]. Instead, it uses: >>> >>> 1. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out your >>> location [i.e., *will* work just fine with GPS turned off]. >>> >>> 2. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out what >>> the date & time are. >>> >>> 3. The internal 3-axis accelerometers to figure out which way >>> is "down", and thus the attitude of the phone [where it's >>> pointing relative to face-down]. >>> >>> 4. The internal 3-axis Hall-effect sensors to figure out where >>> "North" is. [And, yes, a nearby magnet will confuse it!] >> >>Good thing computers don't use RP06s or RP04s anymore. >> >>> >>> Given all four of the above [and its built-in database], >>> it knows all it needs to show you what's in the sky that >>> the phone is pointing to. Thus, as I noted above, it works >>> fine indoors in a room with no windows. >>> >>> Note that if you point it at some star and then rotate the >>> phone in the plane of the display [keeping that star centered], >>> the displayed sky chart *doesn't* rotate w.r.t. the real sky >>> [though the labels "pop" at times as they switch to a >>> different rasterization(?) to remain roughly upright]. >> >>Does working in a power plant destroy a smart phone? > > Not if it is attached to a human. The exposure limits for > humans to exposure to heat, cold, magnetism, electric fields, > water and other liquids, non-athmospheric gases, radiation > etc are from 4 orders of magnitude lower that what would > damage a water-resistant smartphone. OK, thanks. > > That said, the phone may not work as intended while in the > plant. I had the pleasure of standing right on top of a 90MW > generator a few months ago, around 3 feet from the stator field. > That was a magnetic experience, and not for having any metal > on or in your body, We had to sign several disclaimers to > be let in, as well as get a security clearance. If you can answer, why did you do that? > > The phones stopped working even before we put them away in the > adjoining room. But they were not damaged. So how do things work if they can't use electronics. Is everything still mechanical? The city is building a new power plant (gas-fired) here. So I get to see how the things are built. They moved the [can't think of the correct term] heat exchangers? this spring. They were shipped via the lakes and then hauled from the lake to the construction site on trailers which had ~40 wheels. I don't remember the tonnage; they drove each box at 2 MPH. They spent a lot of calculation time to ensure that the trailers had enough wheels so that the roads and infrastructure underneath them wouldn't collapse. /BAH
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mvop2r21sm8@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #152955 |
On 2015-10-15, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > Morten Reistad wrote: > >> That said, the phone may not work as intended while in the >> plant. I had the pleasure of standing right on top of a 90MW >> generator a few months ago, around 3 feet from the stator field. >> That was a magnetic experience, and not for having any metal >> on or in your body, We had to sign several disclaimers to >> be let in, as well as get a security clearance. > > If you can answer, why did you do that? Dunno about Morten, but in my case the local generating station was having an open house, and giving tours through the plant. Even with hearing protection, the hum was hypnotic. I remember standing beside one of its six 180MW generators, and noticing that someone had balanced a nickel on its edge on the turbine housing; thanks to small irregularities in the cast steel, that nickel stood rock-steady while the turbine spun at 3600 rpm directly underneath. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 13:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM00052238C83B1C11@aca46c82.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #152971 |
Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2015-10-15, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: > >> Morten Reistad wrote: >> >>> That said, the phone may not work as intended while in the >>> plant. I had the pleasure of standing right on top of a 90MW >>> generator a few months ago, around 3 feet from the stator field. >>> That was a magnetic experience, and not for having any metal >>> on or in your body, We had to sign several disclaimers to >>> be let in, as well as get a security clearance. >> >> If you can answer, why did you do that? > > Dunno about Morten, but in my case the local generating station > was having an open house, and giving tours through the plant. > Even with hearing protection, the hum was hypnotic. I remember > standing beside one of its six 180MW generators, and noticing > that someone had balanced a nickel on its edge on the turbine > housing; thanks to small irregularities in the cast steel, > that nickel stood rock-steady while the turbine spun at 3600 > rpm directly underneath. > I remember going to Consumer Powers' open house. The guy who talked to me was interesting. I didn't understand a lot of it but I did grasp the basics. I'm going to try to go to this open house. There's supposed to be a platform for people who want to watch the construction. I haven't found it yet; I need to get out on Sunday when there's no traffic and they're not working to find it. They're already laying the heating pipes under the streets to melt the snow from the excess heat; that's interesting to watch, too. /BAH
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 21:33 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <t008fc-nd4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #152994 |
In article <PM00052238C83B1C11@aca46c82.ipt.aol.com>, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2015-10-15, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> Morten Reistad wrote: >>> >>>> That said, the phone may not work as intended while in the >>>> plant. I had the pleasure of standing right on top of a 90MW >>>> generator a few months ago, around 3 feet from the stator field. >>>> That was a magnetic experience, and not for having any metal >>>> on or in your body, We had to sign several disclaimers to >>>> be let in, as well as get a security clearance. >>> >>> If you can answer, why did you do that? >> >> Dunno about Morten, but in my case the local generating station >> was having an open house, and giving tours through the plant. >> Even with hearing protection, the hum was hypnotic. I remember >> standing beside one of its six 180MW generators, and noticing >> that someone had balanced a nickel on its edge on the turbine >> housing; thanks to small irregularities in the cast steel, >> that nickel stood rock-steady while the turbine spun at 3600 >> rpm directly underneath. for me it was organising a VIP tour of the area, >I remember going to Consumer Powers' open house. The guy >who talked to me was interesting. I didn't understand a lot >of it but I did grasp the basics. I'm going to try to go >to this open house. There's supposed to be a platform >for people who want to watch the construction. I haven't >found it yet; I need to get out on Sunday when there's no >traffic and they're not working to find it. They're >already laying the heating pipes under the streets to melt >the snow from the excess heat; that's interesting to watch, >too. -- mrr
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-10-16 07:03 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <d8af5iF5pifU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #152955 |
"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message news:PM0005222472D5DAC6@aca43228.ipt.aol.com... > Morten Reistad wrote: >> In article <PM0005221105C001AD@aca479f3.ipt.aol.com>, >> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote: >>>Rob Warnock wrote: >>>> Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote: >>>> +--------------- >>>> | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes: >>>> | >JimP wrote: >>>> | >> There is an app that you point your cell phone at the night sky, >>>> and >>>> | >> the app tells you the names of the constellations and some of the >>>> | >> stars. >>>> | > >>>> | >How does it do that? GPS gives a location but not a >>>> direction...right? >>>> | >>>> | Camera. >>>> +--------------- >>>> >>>> I have the Google Sky Map app on my phone, and it doesn't use >>>> the camera at all [e.g., works fine on a cloudy day or even >>>> indoors!]. Instead, it uses: >>>> >>>> 1. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out your >>>> location [i.e., *will* work just fine with GPS turned off]. >>>> >>>> 2. *Either* GPS or cell network information to find out what >>>> the date & time are. >>>> >>>> 3. The internal 3-axis accelerometers to figure out which way >>>> is "down", and thus the attitude of the phone [where it's >>>> pointing relative to face-down]. >>>> >>>> 4. The internal 3-axis Hall-effect sensors to figure out where >>>> "North" is. [And, yes, a nearby magnet will confuse it!] >>> >>>Good thing computers don't use RP06s or RP04s anymore. >>> >>>> >>>> Given all four of the above [and its built-in database], >>>> it knows all it needs to show you what's in the sky that >>>> the phone is pointing to. Thus, as I noted above, it works >>>> fine indoors in a room with no windows. >>>> >>>> Note that if you point it at some star and then rotate the >>>> phone in the plane of the display [keeping that star centered], >>>> the displayed sky chart *doesn't* rotate w.r.t. the real sky >>>> [though the labels "pop" at times as they switch to a >>>> different rasterization(?) to remain roughly upright]. >>> >>>Does working in a power plant destroy a smart phone? >> >> Not if it is attached to a human. The exposure limits for >> humans to exposure to heat, cold, magnetism, electric fields, >> water and other liquids, non-athmospheric gases, radiation >> etc are from 4 orders of magnitude lower that what would >> damage a water-resistant smartphone. > > OK, thanks. > >> >> That said, the phone may not work as intended while in the >> plant. I had the pleasure of standing right on top of a 90MW >> generator a few months ago, around 3 feet from the stator field. >> That was a magnetic experience, and not for having any metal >> on or in your body, We had to sign several disclaimers to >> be let in, as well as get a security clearance. > > If you can answer, why did you do that? > >> >> The phones stopped working even before we put them away in the >> adjoining room. But they were not damaged. > > So how do things work if they can't use electronics. They can and do use electronics, just keep them away from the generators themselves. > Is everything still mechanical? Nope. > The city is building a new power plant (gas-fired) here. So I get > to see how the things are built. They moved the [can't think of > the correct term] heat exchangers? this spring. Cooling towers. > They were shipped via the lakes and then hauled from the > lake to the construction site on trailers which had ~40 wheels. > I don't remember the tonnage; they drove each box at 2 MPH. > They spent a lot of calculation time to ensure that the trailers > had enough wheels so that the roads and infrastructure > underneath them wouldn't collapse.
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