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Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95

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First post2015-09-10 12:59 +0000
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  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-10 12:59 +0000
    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 10:21 -0500
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-10 10:54 -0500
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 11:43 -0500
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-10 14:07 -0400
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-10 14:00 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 14:05 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-10 15:58 -0400
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-11 19:04 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-11 23:29 -0400
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-10 12:47 -0700
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-10 19:03 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-11 10:21 +1000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-10 21:54 +0000
      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-11 12:48 +0000
        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 05:05 +1000
          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-12 13:24 +0000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 04:27 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-12 14:12 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-13 06:51 +1000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-12 21:47 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-12 22:53 -0500
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-13 17:46 -0500
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-13 17:16 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-14 10:17 -0500
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-15 04:48 +1000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-13 21:13 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-14 18:06 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-13 14:20 +1000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:28 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-13 10:54 -0500
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-13 21:15 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-13 23:01 -0700
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-09-14 04:18 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-12 19:38 -0700
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-09-13 12:20 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 21:45 +0100
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-13 13:43 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:30 -0500
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-13 17:14 -0700
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-14 07:00 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-14 12:50 +0000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 09:13 -0500
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-15 13:07 +0000
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 04:31 +1000
            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-14 16:35 -0500
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 07:58 +0100
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 08:14 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 13:16 +0200
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-15 10:12 +0100
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-15 17:48 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 11:51 +0000
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-15 16:03 +0200
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-15 16:01 +0100
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-15 19:29 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 20:13 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-15 20:12 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-16 11:39 +0000
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-16 11:54 +0000
              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-15 13:07 +0000
                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-15 06:14 -0700
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-15 14:55 +0100
                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2015-09-15 16:05 +0100
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-16 12:54 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 14:27 +0100
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-16 14:49 +0000
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 10:43 -0500
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:12 +0100
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 11:21 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-16 15:02 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 08:08 -0700
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 11:04 -0500
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 10:45 -0700
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 18:02 +0000
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 12:50 -0700
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-17 07:33 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-16 10:11 -0700
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 13:53 -0500
                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-16 18:08 -0700
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-16 21:34 -0400
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-16 21:15 -0500
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 19:17 -0700
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:30 -0400
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 16:15 +0000
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 15:36 -0400
                                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 19:51 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 16:27 -0400
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 17:25 -0500
                              Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-17 03:58 +0000
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-17 07:11 -0500
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-17 08:58 -0400
                                Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                                  Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-17 16:35 +0200
                                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-18 13:19 +0000
                                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-18 09:58 -0700
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-18 10:25 -0700
                                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-19 16:29 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-18 19:43 +0000
                                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-18 18:36 -0500
                                          Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-19 03:24 +0000
                                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-19 10:06 +0100
                            Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-17 13:34 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-16 22:14 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-16 13:40 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-16 16:43 +0000
                        Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 10:52 -0700
                    Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-18 11:46 +0000
                      Re: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:54 +0000
                  Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:02 +0100
                    Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-15 14:40 -0500
                      Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-15 19:50 -0700
                        Re: Decimal point character and billions (was: 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95) hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-16 08:00 -0700
                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-16 11:06 -0500
                            Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-16 18:38 +0200
                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Scion <a.b@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-25 13:02 +0000
                            Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-17 09:45 +0100
                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-17 08:34 -0500
                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-18 12:35 +0100
                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-18 11:54 +0000
                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-18 21:23 -0500
                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-19 03:24 +0000
                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-19 11:09 +0100
                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-19 16:52 -0500
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-19 22:09 -0500
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 07:27 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 10:50 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-20 15:04 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:50 -0700
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-21 12:36 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:43 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-20 20:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-21 07:00 +0000
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 09:19 +0100
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:15 +0200
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-21 09:14 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-21 21:33 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-22 11:51 +0100
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-21 07:03 -0700
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:39 -0500
                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-21 10:35 -0700
                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 13:45 -0500
                                                              Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-21 19:06 +0000
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:00 -0500
                                                                  Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-22 14:01 +0000
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:29 -0500
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-22 15:47 +0100
                                                                  Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:27 +0100
                                                                    Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-22 14:28 -0400
                                                                        Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 11:58 -0700
                                                                          Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 15:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-22 18:11 -0700
                                                                          Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-22 22:16 -0400
                                                                          Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 07:37 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:06 -0500
                                                                            Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:33 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:26 -0700
                                                                        Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 04:37 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-23 08:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 23:35 -0400
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 23:41 -0400
                                                                                Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-28 09:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:29 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-28 06:28 -0500
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:05 +0000
                                                                                      Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:07 -0500
                                                                                        Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 16:09 -0400
                                                                                          Re: power supplies Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-29 07:04 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-28 16:28 +0000
                                                                                    Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-28 19:28 +0200
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 16:00 -0400
                                                                                    Re: power supplies rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-29 06:09 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:20 -0500
                                                                    Re: power supplies Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-09-23 08:18 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 11:09 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-23 16:31 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-23 11:20 -0700
                                                                        Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:45 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:38 -0700
                                                                      Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-23 19:44 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-24 13:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:35 -0400
                                                                            Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-01 13:17 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-01 08:27 -0500
                                                                              Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-02 14:42 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-02 19:17 +0100
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-02 15:14 -0400
                                                                                    Re: power supplies JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 14:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-02 20:15 -0500
                                                                                      Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:41 +0200
                                                                            Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-01 13:27 +0000
                                                                              Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-04 14:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-05 03:46 +1100
                                                                                Re: power supplies Michele <havana9@bigmailbox.net> - 2015-10-04 23:51 +0200
                                                                                Re: power supplies jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:29 +0000
                                                                                Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-05 07:16 -0700
                                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-05 15:37 +0100
                                                                                  Re: power supplies Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:35 +0000
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 09:53 +0100
                                                                      Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: power supplies Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-09-23 13:50 +0100
                                                                          Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 20:16 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:46 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:42 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-23 14:50 -0400
                                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:51 -0700
                                                              Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:31 -0700
                                                                Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 14:18 -0500
                                                                  Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 21:36 +0200
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-24 15:05 -0500
                                                                      Re: power supplies lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 22:21 +0200
                                                                    Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:49 -0700
                                                                    steam coold, too, was: power supplies danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-25 02:22 +0000
                                                                      Re: steam coold, too, was: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 07:17 -0700
                                                                  Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 13:44 -0700
                                                                    Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 10:36 -0500
                                                                      Re: power supplies "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-25 10:51 -0500
                                                                        Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 14:10 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-25 12:33 -0700
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-25 15:07 -0500
                                                                          Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-25 20:21 +0000
                                                                            Re: power supplies Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 16:04 -0500
                                                                              Re: power supplies Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-27 07:01 -0400
                                                                      Re: power supplies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 16:42 +0000
                                                                      Re: power supplies sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-30 18:42 -0400
                                                            Re: power supplies Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:14 +0200
                                                            Re: power supplies Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:43 +0100
                                                            Re: power supplies Dave Pitts <dpitts@cozx.com> - 2015-09-23 07:47 -0600
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 20:20 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 15:41 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-22 23:58 +0200
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 15:48 +0100
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2015-09-24 12:13 +0800
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 11:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:52 +0200
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 18:10 -0500
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 20:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 01:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:36 +0200
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-21 22:11 -0500
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-22 16:02 +0100
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-22 10:40 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-22 10:46 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-22 17:23 +0000
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:57 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:57 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-22 10:51 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:29 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 19:23 +0100
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 11:34 -0700
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 14:58 -0500
                                                                              accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> - 2015-09-23 20:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: accurate watches, was: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:49 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:05 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 19:01 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 07:47 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 12:14 -0700
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:00 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-25 09:07 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-23 14:52 +0200
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 14:05 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 12:55 -0700
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-23 16:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-24 00:46 +0200
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 07:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-24 17:50 -0700
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 10:53 -0500
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-23 02:30 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-22 22:12 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-23 06:58 +0000
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-22 19:22 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-23 10:14 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-23 10:00 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-24 07:43 +0100
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-23 12:46 -0500
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-23 18:56 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-24 04:05 +0100
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-23 22:31 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 15:49 -0500
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-24 11:05 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-24 16:30 +0200
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-24 08:12 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-24 18:52 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-24 16:02 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-25 01:23 +0000
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:28 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:17 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2015-09-22 11:41 -0700
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-23 14:46 +0200
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-23 17:12 +0200
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-23 10:45 -0500
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 23:26 +0000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-21 22:09 -0400
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:25 +0200
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-09-22 07:00 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:26 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-20 19:34 +0100
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:16 +0100
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:33 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-09-20 15:39 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:31 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-21 21:37 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-20 16:26 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-09-20 21:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-21 09:23 +0100
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-20 10:22 +0000
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 16:48 +0000
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:01 -0500
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-20 22:27 +0000
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 10:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-21 16:29 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions mausg@mail.com - 2015-09-21 20:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 21:49 +0200
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-21 17:05 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:03 +0200
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-09-22 00:45 -0400
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-20 12:56 -0500
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 15:52 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 01:20 +0200
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-09-21 18:07 +0200
                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-20 18:18 +0100
                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-20 16:20 -0500
                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-20 19:23 -0700
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-21 10:08 +0200
                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-21 14:11 -0500
                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-22 10:48 -0700
                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-26 17:08 -0500
                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 13:50 +1000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-28 05:43 +0100
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:08 +0000
                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 10:03 -0500
                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 10:55 -0500
                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 12:36 -0400
                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 09:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 13:20 -0400
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-28 19:02 +0000
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 15:12 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 17:01 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:15 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-28 17:05 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-28 20:49 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:32 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 18:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 03:07 +0100
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 10:38 -0500
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 12:53 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 18:15 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:14 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-09-29 12:24 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-29 20:26 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 12:16 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-01 10:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-29 17:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-29 07:47 +0200
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 07:36 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:35 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:26 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:15 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:52 -0700
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-30 22:54 +0200
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 09:02 +1000
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-30 21:59 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 14:49 +1000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-09-30 20:09 -0400
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-01 05:47 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-01 15:13 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 05:40 +1000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 14:34 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 13:45 +1000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-30 11:59 -0700
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 19:14 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 14:56 -0500
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 16:08 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:30 -0700
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 17:12 -0400
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:02 +0000
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-28 17:13 -0500
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-28 21:22 -0400
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-29 07:52 +0200
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 07:52 -0500
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-02 16:41 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 18:55 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:10 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-05 16:20 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:05 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-06 17:17 -0500
                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 08:27 -0700
                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 15:22 -0500
                                                                                                Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-07 21:42 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-07 18:01 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-08 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:19 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-08 11:41 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 11:25 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-08 07:49 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 13:02 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:32 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:07 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-09 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-09 23:59 -0300
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-10 12:03 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-08 11:17 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:28 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:29 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-08 13:21 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-14 11:41 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-14 14:45 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-15 03:21 -0300
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-15 08:53 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 13:53 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 11:32 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 10:36 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:46 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 15:15 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:50 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:06 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 13:49 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 14:02 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-09 14:23 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 15:20 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-10 15:00 -0300
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-10 20:11 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:19 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 22:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:32 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-10 21:47 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:54 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:43 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 21:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:33 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:25 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 19:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 11:23 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 12:46 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 09:17 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 09:24 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 13:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-14 19:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:20 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 16:24 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:34 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-12 17:59 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 02:05 -0300
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-13 17:05 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:45 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 15:13 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:29 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-14 03:45 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 08:20 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-14 09:56 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 16:16 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 16:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 21:59 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 06:43 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-15 16:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-15 07:12 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 10:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 12:27 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-15 13:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 14:21 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-14 10:37 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 15:26 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-13 16:16 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-13 17:57 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-28 13:17 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-28 14:48 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-28 12:34 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 07:32 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-28 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 01:12 -0300
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 04:47 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 16:34 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-29 11:11 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 16:32 -0300
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:31 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2015-10-29 14:48 -0600
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:29 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:35 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 21:51 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:30 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-30 11:40 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-30 18:00 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-30 23:17 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-31 01:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-31 12:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-31 15:16 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-31 21:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-01 15:04 +1100
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-01 10:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-01 16:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-02 12:56 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-02 11:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-02 05:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-02 06:16 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-02 13:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 17:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-06 12:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 14:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 20:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 10:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 21:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 15:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 07:58 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 11:02 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-06 12:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 15:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 07:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 14:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 20:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 06:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 08:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-07 13:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 14:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 12:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-11 19:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-11 13:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-11 17:05 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-12 00:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-12 00:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-04 23:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-05 07:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 06:27 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-05 11:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 14:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-05 14:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 12:46 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2015-11-06 02:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 10:12 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 10:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 12:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 14:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-04 20:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:33 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-05 22:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:30 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 10:43 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 07:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 08:04 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:55 +1100
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 09:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2015-11-02 16:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 10:42 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:12 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 14:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 10:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 10:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-09 12:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 15:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 17:43 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 20:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 20:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 20:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-12 13:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-13 08:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 06:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-13 08:28 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-13 10:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-13 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-16 11:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-13 09:21 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 14:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-13 14:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-13 09:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 14:47 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-14 01:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-14 09:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 20:49 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-14 10:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-15 04:49 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 12:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-14 16:58 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-14 16:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-16 12:45 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-16 18:23 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 18:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-16 20:42 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-17 08:01 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: historicla archives hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 08:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: historicla archives Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: historicla archives hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 12:05 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: historicla archives JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: historicla archives Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-17 15:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: historicla archives Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 22:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 11:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-17 16:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-17 11:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-17 12:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 22:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 17:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-19 09:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-19 14:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-19 10:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-20 08:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-20 10:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 19:41 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-17 14:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 12:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 09:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2015-11-15 18:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 19:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-15 19:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-15 20:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-15 16:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-11-15 19:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-16 08:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-16 11:36 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-16 08:21 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-15 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-13 14:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 14:20 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 18:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 21:27 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 23:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality - Y2K Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 10:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 14:13 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-10 08:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 02:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 10:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:11 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 12:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 12:38 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-10 03:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 20:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 17:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 18:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 19:26 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-10 10:30 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-10 11:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 11:25 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 11:05 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:31 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 14:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-07 13:42 +1100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 23:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 00:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-07 11:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 15:39 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 11:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-11 11:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 20:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-11 17:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-11 09:38 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-11 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-11 13:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-10 14:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-06 21:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-07 13:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 11:50 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-07 19:11 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-07 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 20:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 00:50 +0100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-11-08 11:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-07 18:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 10:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 12:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-02 18:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 11:10 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-03 02:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 16:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 00:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 20:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-02 13:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 12:21 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 12:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 13:25 -0800
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 11:25 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 10:51 +1100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 17:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 18:07 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 13:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 07:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 13:13 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2015-11-02 21:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 07:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 16:04 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 13:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 16:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 16:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 11:03 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 11:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:06 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 14:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 12:29 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-07 21:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-08 16:56 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-08 03:23 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 11:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-08 15:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 16:45 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-08 14:18 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 09:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-09 08:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 00:10 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 04:22 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-09 05:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 12:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-09 17:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality tracymnelson@gmail.com - 2015-11-09 10:13 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-09 17:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-09 14:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 15:08 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 11:09 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-10 01:19 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 07:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-11-10 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2015-11-15 15:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-15 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-16 14:23 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-16 12:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-16 15:49 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-11-16 21:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-16 18:36 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-11-17 07:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-16 21:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-09 12:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-09 22:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 19:04 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-11-09 16:23 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-09 16:26 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 09:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-11-09 23:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:50 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-10 00:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 20:14 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 14:19 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-12 13:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-12 16:53 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-13 00:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-13 19:11 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-13 09:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-13 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-14 20:46 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-14 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-15 10:29 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-13 17:50 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-09 14:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-11-09 15:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-09 16:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-09 13:27 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-09 09:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 14:59 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-11-09 13:42 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-09 18:11 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-10 07:57 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-11-09 11:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-09 11:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-08 08:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-11-08 06:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 13:37 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-08 16:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-09 14:46 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-10 10:59 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-08 16:42 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 13:31 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-08 23:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-09 14:41 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2015-11-15 08:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:53 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Overthrow Chinese Governmen  (Was: Re: rationality) mentificium@gmail.com - 2015-11-06 04:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 10:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:10 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 08:26 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-04 13:55 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 16:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 18:18 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-07 01:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-04 22:22 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-05 17:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-06 09:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-05 06:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 12:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-06 13:52 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-06 10:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 13:37 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-04 16:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-04 16:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-05 06:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:40 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 18:04 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 19:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 10:54 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 06:56 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 07:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality - bridge to somewhere Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-06 09:36 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-06 12:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-06 15:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-11-06 12:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:52 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 13:06 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 13:34 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-07 02:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 09:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-10 17:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-11 12:20 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-11 12:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-10 22:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-11 07:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 10:01 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:46 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-05 12:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:42 -0600
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 17:48 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 13:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-03 10:44 +1100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 10:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 10:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-06 12:04 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-02 10:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-03 12:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-03 10:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-03 19:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-03 09:09 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 13:08 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-03 15:24 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-03 22:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-03 17:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 10:33 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 13:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-05 12:22 -0600
                                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-11-05 14:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-11-05 16:45 -0600
                                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-11-04 02:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-11-04 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 08:44 -0600
                                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-11-04 14:00 -0600
                                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality cmadams@cmadams.net (Chris Adams) - 2015-11-04 16:13 -0600
                                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-03 19:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 07:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-11-01 13:59 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 11:32 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 12:57 -0600
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-11-05 10:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality "78lp" <78lp@nospam.com> - 2015-11-02 12:55 +1100
                                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 11:48 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: rationality "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-11-04 11:07 -0600
                                                                                                                                    Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-11-04 07:58 -0800
                                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com> - 2015-11-05 13:18 +1100
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 16:27 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-29 17:19 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-29 18:15 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-29 13:45 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-29 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: rationality Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-29 23:46 -0300
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-30 04:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-30 12:39 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-29 20:43 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-29 21:02 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-29 15:27 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-30 09:42 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-11-04 10:41 -0500
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-04 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 11:13 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: rationality David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-11-05 11:33 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-11-05 14:04 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: rationality scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-11-05 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-28 21:09 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-14 15:52 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-13 12:21 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 12:00 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 18:21 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-14 13:54 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-15 17:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-14 17:02 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 11:06 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 10:38 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-15 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 14:15 -0500
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-15 11:10 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-10-14 21:00 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: rationality simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-16 10:20 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: rationality Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-19 13:28 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: rationality Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-19 15:18 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: rationality hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-20 11:27 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-08 10:23 -0400
                                                                                                Re: rationality Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:55 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: rationality Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: rationality "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:07 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: rationality Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-09 12:02 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:37 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:24 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:15 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 16:14 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 22:57 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-10 17:31 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 08:32 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-03 11:11 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 15:55 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-04 14:11 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-04 14:50 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-05 12:47 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-05 17:44 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-06 13:13 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-06 17:52 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions "Hanny Z" <hz@nospam.com> - 2015-10-06 09:26 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:40 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-10-09 16:12 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:14 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-06 12:03 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-29 10:07 -0400
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:05 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 10:40 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Decimal point character and billions Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-09-29 12:35 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-09-29 13:03 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 16:48 +1000
                                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:17 +0000
                                                                                Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-29 17:25 -0400
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 09:37 +1000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 19:06 +0000
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-09-29 19:25 -0500
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-30 02:26 +0000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-09-30 03:35 -0300
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 16:58 +1000
                                                                              Re: Decimal point character and billions Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-30 06:25 -0400
                                                                        Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:00 +0000
                                                                          Re: Decimal point character and billions JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 21:36 -0500
                                                                            Re: Decimal point character and billions Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-30 11:03 +0000
                                                                    Re: Decimal point character and billions hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-28 13:26 -0700
                                                                      Re: Decimal point character and billions "Sam Thatch" <st342@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 15:17 +1000

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#153941 — Re: rationality

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2015-11-04 12:53 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d9v2htFhc2tU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153940
<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:

> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:12:51 AM UTC-5, Osmium wrote:
>
>> I would bet money that you understand the situation better than any one 
>> of
>> the 536 people who run this country. If you will come over here, I 
>> promise
>> to vote for you!
>
> I don't think that it's the 536 people don't know what they're doing,
> rather, I think they just want to keep their jobs and perks.  So, they're
> focused on doing whatever it takes to keep their jobs--sucking up to
> campaign donors--rather than the public intereset.
>
> For instance, a _bunch_ of congressman sponsored a bill to make it legal
> for phone solicitors to call cell phones.  Is that something their
> constituents really wanted?  Of course not.  But telemarketers did,
> and their lobbyists got some congressmen to sponsor it. Fortunately,
> at least that bill failed.

I don't agree.  I think a lot of the 536 are honestly, genuinely, stupid. 

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#153943 — Re: rationality

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-11-04 14:03 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<n1dkm9$6f2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#153941
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:

> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:12:51 AM UTC-5, Osmium wrote:
>>
>>> I would bet money that you understand the situation better than any
>>> one of
>>> the 536 people who run this country. If you will come over here, I
>>> promise
>>> to vote for you!
>>
>> I don't think that it's the 536 people don't know what they're doing,
>> rather, I think they just want to keep their jobs and perks.  So, they're
>> focused on doing whatever it takes to keep their jobs--sucking up to
>> campaign donors--rather than the public intereset.
>>
>> For instance, a _bunch_ of congressman sponsored a bill to make it legal
>> for phone solicitors to call cell phones.  Is that something their
>> constituents really wanted?  Of course not.  But telemarketers did,
>> and their lobbyists got some congressmen to sponsor it. Fortunately,
>> at least that bill failed.
>
> I don't agree.  I think a lot of the 536 are honestly, genuinely,
> stupid. 

I have to agree.
A segment of the population has put stupid up on a pedestal and they
pray to it.

Joe the Plumber anyone?
How about our "sports heroes", or celebrities.
I'd name candidates but I like peace and quiet.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#153953 — Re: rationality

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2015-11-04 20:11 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<LDt_x.4$oI2.0@fx21.iad>
In reply to#153941
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
><hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:12:51 AM UTC-5, Osmium wrote:
>>
>>> I would bet money that you understand the situation better than any one 
>>> of
>>> the 536 people who run this country. If you will come over here, I 
>>> promise
>>> to vote for you!
>>
>> I don't think that it's the 536 people don't know what they're doing,
>> rather, I think they just want to keep their jobs and perks.  So, they're
>> focused on doing whatever it takes to keep their jobs--sucking up to
>> campaign donors--rather than the public intereset.
>>
>> For instance, a _bunch_ of congressman sponsored a bill to make it legal
>> for phone solicitors to call cell phones.  Is that something their
>> constituents really wanted?  Of course not.  But telemarketers did,
>> and their lobbyists got some congressmen to sponsor it. Fortunately,
>> at least that bill failed.
>
>I don't agree.  I think a lot of the 536 are honestly, genuinely, stupid. 
>

Yep.  And they represent the 500 people that actually voted for
them.   It's quite interesting to look at the number of constituents
vs. the number of constituents registered to vote vs. the number of
constuents that _did_ vote vs. the number of constiuents that voted
for the winner.   In an off-year, the final number may be 5% of the
first number.

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#154043 — Re: rationality

From"John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com>
Date2015-11-06 08:33 +1100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<da209dF9q53U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153941

"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:d9v2htFhc2tU1@mid.individual.net...
> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:12:51 AM UTC-5, Osmium wrote:
>>
>>> I would bet money that you understand the situation better than any one 
>>> of
>>> the 536 people who run this country. If you will come over here, I 
>>> promise
>>> to vote for you!
>>
>> I don't think that it's the 536 people don't know what they're doing,
>> rather, I think they just want to keep their jobs and perks.  So, they're
>> focused on doing whatever it takes to keep their jobs--sucking up to
>> campaign donors--rather than the public intereset.
>>
>> For instance, a _bunch_ of congressman sponsored a bill to make it legal
>> for phone solicitors to call cell phones.  Is that something their
>> constituents really wanted?  Of course not.  But telemarketers did,
>> and their lobbyists got some congressmen to sponsor it. Fortunately,
>> at least that bill failed.
>
> I don't agree.  I think a lot of the 536 are honestly, genuinely, stupid.

Not stupid so much as with no idea how to do stuff
like health care and social security and stuff like that. 

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#154062 — Re: rationality

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2015-11-05 22:33 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<n1hafg$npg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154043
On 11/5/2015 3:33 PM, John Jackson wrote:
> 
> 
> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:d9v2htFhc2tU1@mid.individual.net...
>> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 11:12:51 AM UTC-5, Osmium wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would bet money that you understand the situation better than
>>>> any one of
>>>> the 536 people who run this country. If you will come over here, I
>>>> promise
>>>> to vote for you!
>>>
>>> I don't think that it's the 536 people don't know what they're doing,
>>> rather, I think they just want to keep their jobs and perks.  So,
>>> they're
>>> focused on doing whatever it takes to keep their jobs--sucking up to
>>> campaign donors--rather than the public intereset.
>>>
>>> For instance, a _bunch_ of congressman sponsored a bill to make it
>>> legal
>>> for phone solicitors to call cell phones.  Is that something their
>>> constituents really wanted?  Of course not.  But telemarketers did,
>>> and their lobbyists got some congressmen to sponsor it. Fortunately,
>>> at least that bill failed.
>>
>> I don't agree.  I think a lot of the 536 are honestly, genuinely,
>> stupid.
> 
> Not stupid so much as with no idea how to do stuff
> like health care and social security and stuff like that.

Of course. I don't think most of them are stupid, either. Their
expertise is in fundraising, and if they need facts they'll ask their
donors for advice. Their goal is to stay in power.

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#154042 — Re: rationality

From"John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com>
Date2015-11-06 08:30 +1100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<da204hF9optU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153792

"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:d9pgc1F4carU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Morten Reistad" wrote:
>
>> In article <d9nu6fFmr34U1@mid.individual.net>, 78lp <78lp@nospam.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>>news:OeqdnRzvn9jppqvLnZ2dnUU78QudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> On 01/11/2015 16:07, Osmium wrote:
>>>> {snip}
>>>>
>>>>> Too big to fail is still true. Of course its only been, what, seven
>>>>> years, since the failure?
>>>>
>>>> Banks hit problems every 10 years or so. Seven years means the next
>>>> problem is growing and should burst in 3-4 years time.
>>>
>>>But they don't usually produce the complete implosion
>>>of much of the world financial system when that happens.
>>
>> It was the Glass-Steagall act (really just 4 provisions in the
>> Banking act of 1933) (GS1933) that at least plugged the multiplier
>> of the crash that had made the 1929 crash som bad. This worked
>> until the Gramm-Leach-Bliley of 1999 (GLB1999) removed the two crucial
>> provisions of the GS1933. Signed by William Jefferson Clinton.
>>
>> The GS1933 removed the financial equity link between the banks
>> and the rest of the financial world, making it a lot harder to
>> issue the kind of bad AAA loans that made the 2008 crash.
>>
>> Repeal the GLB1999, and reinstate the GS1933. That alone should
>> work a long way towards fixing stuff.
>>
>> BTW: There was an international committe of parlamentarians
>> from US+CA+AU+NZ+UK+FR+NL+DK+NO that made the recommendtations
>> for the more comprehensive 1936 banking legislation. All
>> of these countries passed more or less identical legislation,
>> and it is still on the books of all but the US and the UK;
>> probably an important reason why the US+UK was hit so much
>> harder than the rest of us regarding the financial crisis of
>> 2008.
>>
>> No, you cannot stop a capitalist free market from going
>> boom-bust, but you can take away the huge multipliers that
>> make depressions out of the busts.
>
> I would bet money that you understand the situation better than any one of 
> the 536 people who run this country.

There are no 536 people who run that country, they don't actually run
a damned thing. The country mostly runs itself and all those do is fiddle
with some of the detail like how taxes are done and stuff like that.

If you will come over here, I promise
> to vote for you! 

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#153812 — Re: rationality

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2015-11-02 10:43 -0800
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<87611kgs35.fsf@lhwserver.localdomain>
In reply to#153764
Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> writes:
> It was the Glass-Steagall act (really just 4 provisions in the
> Banking act of 1933) (GS1933) that at least plugged the multiplier
> of the crash that had made the 1929 crash som bad. This worked
> until the Gramm-Leach-Bliley of 1999 (GLB1999) removed the two crucial
> provisions of the GS1933. Signed by William Jefferson Clinton.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#44 rationality

rhetoric on the floor of congress (initially) was that the purpose of
GLBA was to prevent new banking competition (especially competitors with
new technology that would make banking significantly more efficient and
competitive) ... if you already have banking charter, you get to keep
it, if you don't already have a banking charter you can't get one. They
then start adding other favors ... repeal of Glass-Steagall and
"opt-out" personal information sharing. Folklore is that president
initially was going to veto GLBA ... which passes pretty much along
party lines (54-44), then they go back and bring the other party on
board and it passes with veto proof 90-8 and the president signs it. It
was supposedly explained to him that wallstreet had lobbied the majority
party in congress to the tune of $125M, but had also lobbied his party
in congress to the tune of $115M (and congress "owed" it to wallstreet).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm%E2%80%93Leach%E2%80%93Bliley_Act

President of AMEX is in competition to be next CEO and wins. The looser
takes their protege and leaves, going to Baltimore and takes over what
is described as a loan sharking business, They then make several other
acquisitions, eventually acquiring CITIBANK in violation of
Glass-Steagall, Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby
congress for repeal of Glass-Steagall (enabling "too big to fail"). They
enlist several others ... including Gramm, #2 on times list responsible
for the economic mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

and secretary of treasury (and former chairman of Goldman Sachs). Once
GLBA is on its way to final vote, the secretary of treasury resigns and
joins Citigroup as what was described at the time as co-CEO.  The
protege leaves and becomes chairman of JPMorgan/Chase

glass-steagall posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall
Greenspan & other Fed Chairman posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#greenspan
#3 on times list responsibile for economic mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877331,00.html
"too big to fail" ("too big to prosecute", "too big to jail")
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

Gramm and his wife also responsible for CFTC modernization act
preventing regulation of over the counter derivatives ... originally
described as gift to ENRON

The head of CFTC proposes regulating derivatives and is quickly replaced
with Gramm's wife while he gets provision added that prevents the
regulation. She then resigns and joins ENRON board and on the financial
audit committee. ... some past posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron

Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate
fraudulent mortgages (posterchild were office bldgs in Dallas/Ft.Worth
area that turned out to be empty lots). In the late 90s, I was asked to
look at improving the integrity of supporting documents as
countermeasures. Then loan originators were securitizing loans&mortgages
and paying for triple-A ratings (when both the sellers and the rating
agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A, from Oct2008 congressional
testimony). Triple-A rating trumps supporting documentation and they can
start doing no-documentation liar loans. Being able to pay for triple-A
eliminated any reason for loan originators to care about borrowers'
qualifications or loan quality, they could sell off (all loans as fast
as they could be made) to customers restricted to dealing in "safe"
investments (like large pension funds, claim is it accounts for 30% loss
in funds and trillions shortfall for pensions), largely enabling being
able to do over $27T 2001-2008
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&refer=home&sid=a0jln3.CSS6c

If that wasn't enough, they also start packaging securitized
loans/mortgages designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their victim
customers, and then take out (over the counter derivative) CDS gambling
bets they would fail (creating enormous demand for dodgy loans &
mortgages). Largest holder of CDS gambling bets was AIG and was
negotiating to pay off at 50-60cents on the dollar, when the secretary
of treasury (also a former chairman of Goldman Sachs) steps in and
forces them to sign a document that they can't sue those making the
gambling bets and to take TARP funds to payoff at 100cents on the
dollar. The largest recipient of TARP funds was AIG and the largest
recipient of face-value payoffs was TBTF formerly headed by
sec-of-treasury.

In the wake of ENRON, congress passes Sarbanes-Oxley claiming that it
would prevent future ENRONs and guarantee that executives and auditors
responsible for fraudulent financial filings, do jail time. however it
requires SEC to do something. Possibly because even GAO doesn't believe
SEC is doing anything, it starts doing reports of fraudulent financial
filings, even showing uptic after Sarbanes-Oxley goes into effect (and
nobody doing jailtime). Less well known, SOX also has provision for SEC
to do something about rating agencies (played the pivotal role in the
economic mess). #4 on times list of those responsible for economic mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html
Sarbanes-Oxley posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
fraudulent financial filing posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud

and of course, in the congressional Madoff hearings, they had the
person that tried unsuccesfully for a decade to get SEC to do
something about Madoff
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff

other trivia, AMEX was in competition with KKR for private equity LBO of
RJR. KKR won, but when they ran into trouble, they hired president of
AMEX away to turn it around
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco
Then the IBM board hires former president of AMEX to resurrect the
company and reverse the breakup, using some of the same techniques used
at RJR:
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

The former president of AMEX leaves IBM and becomes head of another
large private equity company ... which among other things does
take-over of company that will employee Snowden.

Gerstner posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner
private-equity posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

In the early 90s (about the time IBM is going into the red), AMEX does
spin-off of much of its dataprocessing (mostly mainframes) in what was
the largest IPO up until that time, as First Data. 15yrs later KKR does
a private-equity take-over of First Data in what was described as the
largest LBO up until that time (or 2nd largest, depending on how you
date the take-over). Recently KKR does (re-)IPO of First Data.

Private-equity take-overs have been described similar to house flipping,
except the loan to buy the company goes on the company's books and goes
with the company when it is sold (it is even possible to sell a company
for less than they paid and still walk away with boat loads of money).
Also, the companies are under intense pressure to service the debt load
and over half of "corporate defaults have been companies either owned at
one time or still owned by private equity firms"
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/business/economy/05simmons.html?_r=0

in the LBO, First Data went from $2B debt load to more than $22B debt
load.
http://digitaltransactions.net/news/story/Strategies_-First-Data-After-the-LBO

First Data Prices Its IPO At $16 Per Share, Raising $2.56 Billion
http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/14/first-data-prices-its-ipo-at-16-per-share-raising-2-56-billion/

The company has slowly expanding revenues, and steep debt. At current
tip, the company has an unadjusted total load of $21.16 billion. First
Data will be using the $2.56 billion proceeds from the initial public
offering to pay down some of its long-term debt.

... snip ...

-- 
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#153820 — Re: rationality

From"78lp" <78lp@nospam.com>
Date2015-11-03 07:05 +1100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d9pu0bF80irU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153764

"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
news:tbqjgc-od3.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
> In article <d9nu6fFmr34U1@mid.individual.net>, 78lp <78lp@nospam.com> 
> wrote:
>>"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>news:OeqdnRzvn9jppqvLnZ2dnUU78QudnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> On 01/11/2015 16:07, Osmium wrote:
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>> Too big to fail is still true. Of course its only been, what, seven
>>>> years, since the failure?
>>>
>>> Banks hit problems every 10 years or so. Seven years means the next
>>> problem is growing and should burst in 3-4 years time.
>>
>>But they don’t usually produce the complete implosion
>>of much of the world financial system when that happens.
>
> It was the Glass-Steagall act (really just 4 provisions in the
> Banking act of 1933) (GS1933) that at least plugged the multiplier
> of the crash that had made the 1929 crash som bad. This worked
> until the Gramm-Leach-Bliley of 1999 (GLB1999) removed the two crucial
> provisions of the GS1933. Signed by William Jefferson Clinton.
>
> The GS1933 removed the financial equity link between the banks
> and the rest of the financial world, making it a lot harder to
> issue the kind of bad AAA loans that made the 2008 crash.
>
> Repeal the GLB1999, and reinstate the GS1933. That alone should
> work a long way towards fixing stuff.

The problem with that line is that neither Canada nor Australia
was ever actually stupid enough to have anything like Glass-Steagall
and both have much bigger banks per capita than the US and yet
not one of the retail banks imploded spectacularly or even needed
to be bailed out by government.

> BTW: There was an international committe of parlamentarians
> from US+CA+AU+NZ+UK+FR+NL+DK+NO that made the
> recommendtations for the more comprehensive 1936 banking
> legislation. All of these countries passed more or less identical
> legislation,

No they did not on the question of national banks.

> and it is still on the books of all but the US and the UK;

No it is not on the question of national banks.

> probably an important reason why the US+UK was hit so much
> harder than the rest of us regarding the financial crisis of 2008.

It was actually the deregulation of the
banks that was the problem in the UK.

> No, you cannot stop a capitalist free market from going
> boom-bust, but you can take away the huge multipliers
> that make depressions out of the busts.

And that has been true in the US too. There were lots of
full depressions in the century before 1929 and just one
very severe recession since then. And this time the govt
response came much more quickly when the financial
system imploded and unemployment only got into
double digits for a couple of quarters and then headed
back down again, unlike the 30s where it lasted for much
of the 30s. 

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#153917 — Re: rationality

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2015-11-04 08:04 -0800
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<f8d414a1-e30a-4452-acd9-77462754af18@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#153764
On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 5:28:18 AM UTC-5, Morten Reistad wrote:

> No, you cannot stop a capitalist free market from going
> boom-bust, but you can take away the huge multipliers that
> make depressions out of the busts.

Exactly.  In effect, the regulations create a cushioning effect
preventing a large crash.  

Large crashes are obviously bad because they overwhelm the social
network.  People simply can not find jobs anywhere and starve.

Unfortunately, today, too many people are in love with the big gains
from the opposite swing of the boom in the cycle.   They want those
profits no matter what.  They don't need them, they certainly didn't
earn* them.  They're a narcotic.

*Much of the profits in a market 'boom' are not true earnings form
investment in real factories and productivity, but rather just
profits from buying and selling securities.  Investors don't give
a crap about building a new factory, rather, they just want to find
a sucker to buy the stock they just bought themselves.

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#154060 — Re: rationality

From"John Jackson" <jj@nospam.com>
Date2015-11-06 13:55 +1100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<da2j4vFe3jhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153917

<hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote in message 
news:f8d414a1-e30a-4452-acd9-77462754af18@googlegroups.com...
> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 5:28:18 AM UTC-5, Morten Reistad wrote:
>
>> No, you cannot stop a capitalist free market from going
>> boom-bust, but you can take away the huge multipliers that
>> make depressions out of the busts.
>
> Exactly.  In effect, the regulations create a cushioning effect
> preventing a large crash.
>
> Large crashes are obviously bad because they overwhelm the social
> network.  People simply can not find jobs anywhere and starve.

No one starves anymore. They didn't during the great depression either.

> Unfortunately, today, too many people are in love with the big gains
> from the opposite swing of the boom in the cycle.   They want those
> profits no matter what.  They don't need them, they certainly didn't
> earn* them.  They're a narcotic.
>
> *Much of the profits in a market 'boom' are not true earnings form
> investment in real factories and productivity, but rather just
> profits from buying and selling securities.  Investors don't give
> a crap about building a new factory, rather, they just want to find
> a sucker to buy the stock they just bought themselves.

It hasn't been about factories for a long time now except
in a few areas like military hardware and aircraft and cars. 

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#153773 — Re: rationality

Fromjmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com>
Date2015-11-02 13:17 +0000
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<PM0005238ECF23C855@aca41e6b.ipt.aol.com>
In reply to#153737
Andrew Swallow wrote:
> On 01/11/2015 16:07, Osmium wrote:
> {snip}
>
>> Too big to fail is still true. Of course its only been, what, seven
>> years, since the failure?
>
> Banks hit problems every 10 years or so. Seven years means the next
> problem is growing and should burst in 3-4 years time.

I think the Fed has stopped printing money so the reaction to the
problem they were trying to "stop" will happen in the next few years.

/BAH

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#153782 — Re: rationality

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2015-11-02 09:13 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<d9pctlF3fkcU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153773
"jmfbahciv" wrote:

> Andrew Swallow wrote:
>> On 01/11/2015 16:07, Osmium wrote:
>> {snip}
>>
>>> Too big to fail is still true. Of course its only been, what, seven
>>> years, since the failure?
>>
>> Banks hit problems every 10 years or so. Seven years means the next
>> problem is growing and should burst in 3-4 years time.
>
> I think the Fed has stopped printing money so the reaction to the
> problem they were trying to "stop" will happen in the next few years.

I am not convinced they have stopped printing money.  Short term interest 
rates have effectively been zero for seven years.  The usage of money used 
to have value, now its value is zero.  Other things still have value:wheat, 
lumber, cement, textiles. Short term money is the only thing that has no 
value.  One way to have this happen would be if the supply suddenly became 
unlimited.  I am open to other theories. 

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#153790 — Re: rationality

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid>
Date2015-11-02 16:28 +0100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<a1ckgc-5b4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#153782
In article <d9pctlF3fkcU1@mid.individual.net>,
Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:
>"jmfbahciv" wrote:
>
>> Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2015 16:07, Osmium wrote:
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>> Too big to fail is still true. Of course its only been, what, seven
>>>> years, since the failure?
>>>
>>> Banks hit problems every 10 years or so. Seven years means the next
>>> problem is growing and should burst in 3-4 years time.
>>
>> I think the Fed has stopped printing money so the reaction to the
>> problem they were trying to "stop" will happen in the next few years.
>
>I am not convinced they have stopped printing money.  Short term interest 
>rates have effectively been zero for seven years.  The usage of money used 
>to have value, now its value is zero.  Other things still have value:wheat, 
>lumber, cement, textiles. Short term money is the only thing that has no 
>value.  One way to have this happen would be if the supply suddenly became 
>unlimited.  I am open to other theories. 

Fiat money is amazingly resilient. I would have expected inflation to
take a good hold a decade ago. Yes, they are hiding it; but all the real
indicators say it is 3-4% above what the consumer price indicators do;
i.e. ~5% inflation; which is pretty normal in the western world.

This means we have negative interest.

All the moneyed people have more or less abandoned cash for their larger
settlements, it appears they are setting either in some CME multi-raw-materials
indices or in QQQQ's from NYSE (these are a proper index of the largest
30(?) companies listed on that exchange. Which will both give good 
inflation protection.

The only two things the fiat money have for it is that has a monopoly
to quote prices and to pay taxes, fines etc.

All the other stuff can be done in other currencies.

-- mrr


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#154013 — Re: rationality

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2015-11-05 10:42 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<da1f7cF5aovU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#153790
"Morten Reistad" wrote:

> The only two things the fiat money have [going] for it is that has a 
> monopoly
> to quote prices and to pay taxes, fines etc.

I notice you mention fiat money quite often, but never say it is bad.  Are 
you actually opposed to it?  It's a word seldom used in America, except by 
people who *do* oppose it.

I don't see any practical alternative. 

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#154020 — Re: rationality

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-11-05 13:12 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<n1g62f$s6v$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154013
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:

> "Morten Reistad" wrote:
>
>> The only two things the fiat money have [going] for it is that has a
>> monopoly
>> to quote prices and to pay taxes, fines etc.
>
> I notice you mention fiat money quite often, but never say it is bad.
> Are you actually opposed to it?  It's a word seldom used in America,
> except by people who *do* oppose it.
>
> I don't see any practical alternative. 

That's exactly the reason we have fiat money.
Nothing else would work.
As far as using the word, "fiat", the best way
to keep the system working, is to trust it,
but don't talk about it.
It can't be explained.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#154510 — Re: rationality

FromUncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-15 08:07 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<bdbc492d6d8102f-22d7b@gmail.com>
In reply to#154020
On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 01:12:38PM -0500, Dan Espen wrote:
> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
> 
> > "Morten Reistad" wrote:
> >
> >> The only two things the fiat money have [going] for it is that has a
> >> monopoly
> >> to quote prices and to pay taxes, fines etc.
> >
> > I notice you mention fiat money quite often, but never say it is bad.
> > Are you actually opposed to it?  It's a word seldom used in America,
> > except by people who *do* oppose it.
> >
> > I don't see any practical alternative. 
> 
> That's exactly the reason we have fiat money.
> Nothing else would work.
> As far as using the word, "fiat", the best way
> to keep the system working, is to trust it,
> but don't talk about it.
> It can't be explained.

Everything can be explained.  Only religion denies the validity of
open critical analysis.



-- 
We all cannot be intelligent, but at least we can all be polite.

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#154078 — Re: rationality

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2015-11-06 14:14 +0100
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<nmlugc-211.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#154013
In article <da1f7cF5aovU1@mid.individual.net>,
Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:
>"Morten Reistad" wrote:
>
>> The only two things the fiat money have [going] for it is that has a 
>> monopoly
>> to quote prices and to pay taxes, fines etc.
>
>I notice you mention fiat money quite often, but never say it is bad.  Are 
>you actually opposed to it?  It's a word seldom used in America, except by 
>people who *do* oppose it.

I sat fiat money to define what it is. After Nixon let the US leave the
gold standard in the early 70s the US currency has been fully fiat money.

That need not be good or bad per se. This is a tool, and tools are not
inherently good or bad. It is their usage that takes on goodness or badness.

But we should be very clear that almost all the world's currencies
are pure fiat currencies. This makes for a clearer analysis of their
advantages or their risks and drawbacks.

Fiat currencies have the risk of instant debasement of the currency built
in. It is all about trust, and that can evaporate in an instant. Like it
has happened in e.g. Germany, Argentina, Hungary where the currencies
went from reasonable stability to total hyperinflation within a few 
months. The US is well beyond the fundamental GDP/debt levels of these
countries where this happened now. But it has one factor which is unique; 
it is the world's reserve currency.

In the US you must use the dollar for three things. You must pay your
taxes with it, you must quote values in all contracts in it to have them
enforcable by courts, and you must accept to settle any debts in it.

Other from those three you can have your holdings in other stuff that
is not directly affected by a sudden debasement of the currency. Like
the CME's raw materials index funds and the share index funds from NYSQ
and NASDAQ, like the QQQQs. (Just enter QQQQ as a ticker in your favourite
share quote website).

>I don't see any practical alternative. 

It would be pretty simple to make a raw materials based currency. Just
take a basket of the 30 most traded raw materials and securitise it. 
I have participated in a team that did this with a stock market and
made a foundation for a furtures and fowards market. It is not rocket
science. You can make papers that you can exchange for delivery of
so many liters of oil, so many bushels of wheat etc, all of which
have utilisation value in their own right. 

This is a practical alternative to metal standards. The problem with 
those is that they use commodities that are a tiny bit of the economy, 
and have a very limited supply, thus inflating the underlying metals
well beyond their utility value. If you on the other hand make a basket
of the most traded commodites reaching out to more than a third of
the total economy you will solve the supply problem.

The US will never do this, as it is so dependent on the reserve status
of the dollar. But another, smaller country could easily do so, and would
attract a lot of business this way from all the people that see the
risks with having their holdings in fiat currencies.

Of course, this would require this country to have sound politicians
that don't run a deficit, because they cannot make the invisible
inflation tax rescue the budget in a pinch. This imposes limitations
on the room of dealings of the politicians, which they normally
dislike.

-- mrr

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#154083 — Re: rationality

FromDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
Date2015-11-06 10:17 -0500
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<n1ig5d$gr6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#154078
Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> writes:

> In article <da1f7cF5aovU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:
>>"Morten Reistad" wrote:
>>
>>> The only two things the fiat money have [going] for it is that has a 
>>> monopoly
>>> to quote prices and to pay taxes, fines etc.
>>
>>I notice you mention fiat money quite often, but never say it is bad.  Are 
>>you actually opposed to it?  It's a word seldom used in America, except by 
>>people who *do* oppose it.
>
> I sat fiat money to define what it is. After Nixon let the US leave the
> gold standard in the early 70s the US currency has been fully fiat money.
>
> That need not be good or bad per se. This is a tool, and tools are not
> inherently good or bad. It is their usage that takes on goodness or badness.
>
> But we should be very clear that almost all the world's currencies
> are pure fiat currencies. This makes for a clearer analysis of their
> advantages or their risks and drawbacks.
>
> Fiat currencies have the risk of instant debasement of the currency built
> in. It is all about trust, and that can evaporate in an instant. Like it
> has happened in e.g. Germany, Argentina, Hungary where the currencies
> went from reasonable stability to total hyperinflation within a few 
> months. The US is well beyond the fundamental GDP/debt levels of these
> countries where this happened now. But it has one factor which is unique; 
> it is the world's reserve currency.
>
> In the US you must use the dollar for three things. You must pay your
> taxes with it, you must quote values in all contracts in it to have them
> enforcable by courts, and you must accept to settle any debts in it.
>
> Other from those three you can have your holdings in other stuff that
> is not directly affected by a sudden debasement of the currency. Like
> the CME's raw materials index funds and the share index funds from NYSQ
> and NASDAQ, like the QQQQs. (Just enter QQQQ as a ticker in your favourite
> share quote website).
>
>>I don't see any practical alternative. 
>
> It would be pretty simple to make a raw materials based currency. Just
> take a basket of the 30 most traded raw materials and securitise it. 
> I have participated in a team that did this with a stock market and
> made a foundation for a furtures and fowards market. It is not rocket
> science. You can make papers that you can exchange for delivery of
> so many liters of oil, so many bushels of wheat etc, all of which
> have utilisation value in their own right. 
>
> This is a practical alternative to metal standards. The problem with 
> those is that they use commodities that are a tiny bit of the economy, 
> and have a very limited supply, thus inflating the underlying metals
> well beyond their utility value. If you on the other hand make a basket
> of the most traded commodites reaching out to more than a third of
> the total economy you will solve the supply problem.
>
> The US will never do this, as it is so dependent on the reserve status
> of the dollar. But another, smaller country could easily do so, and would
> attract a lot of business this way from all the people that see the
> risks with having their holdings in fiat currencies.
>
> Of course, this would require this country to have sound politicians
> that don't run a deficit, because they cannot make the invisible
> inflation tax rescue the budget in a pinch. This imposes limitations
> on the room of dealings of the politicians, which they normally
> dislike.

Morten, you always have such interesting stories.

Notice in your example, that this scheme relies on someone
to agree to a price of the raw material.
If you fix the price of the raw material and supply or technology
changes the cost of the raw material something has to give.
If you then adjust the value of the raw material,
you end up with the same "fiat" nature in the currency.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#154087 — Re: rationality

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2015-11-06 10:24 -0600
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<da42guFpdgvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#154083
"Dan Espen" wrote:

> Morten, you always have such interesting stories.
>
> Notice in your example, that this scheme relies on someone
> to agree to a price of the raw material.
> If you fix the price of the raw material and supply or technology
> changes the cost of the raw material something has to give.
> If you then adjust the value of the raw material,
> you end up with the same "fiat" nature in the currency.

I don't pretend to understand all the implications of what he said and it 
doesn't leap out at me as a good idea. But it certainly *isn't* similar to 
fiat currency.  You don't change the amount of wheat at the flick of a pen.

As I understand it, he is simply reminding us occasionally of the 
fundamental nature of currency, a harmless non-emotional adjective. 

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#154155 — Re: rationality

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2015-11-07 21:07 -0800
SubjectRe: rationality
Message-ID<ccf39def-70ef-484c-972e-29479c560153@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#154087
On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 9:24:01 AM UTC-7, Osmium wrote:

> As I understand it, he is simply reminding us occasionally of the 
> fundamental nature of currency, a harmless non-emotional adjective.

Actually, "fiat" is not a non-emotional adjective. It has a meaning, and thus is 
a highly pejorative thing to say of a currency. It means that those pieces of 
paper are only supposed to be money because someone said so.

And history has shown that even rulers with great coercive power at their 
disposal have been frustrated in their plans by the realities of economics.

John Savard

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